Genealogie Wylie » Sir John 1st Baron Wake [Wikibio] sss (± 1268-< 1300)

Persoonlijke gegevens Sir John 1st Baron Wake [Wikibio] sss 

• Hij is geboren rond 1268 in Blisworth, Northamptonshire, England.Bronnen 3, 4, 5
• Hij is overleden voor 10 april 1300 in Liddel, Cumberland, England.Bronnen 3, 4, 5
• Een kind van Baldwin Wake en Hawise de Quincy
• Deze gegevens zijn voor het laatst bijgewerkt op 5 april 2023.

Gezin van Sir John 1st Baron Wake [Wikibio] sss

(1) Hij is getrouwd met Joan FitzBernard.

Zij zijn getrouwd voor 24 september 1291 te Incorrectly Identified Wife.Bronnen 2, 3, 7

(2) Hij is getrouwd met Joan de Fiennes.

Zij zijn getrouwd voor 24 september 1291 te Only wife.Bronnen 1, 4, 8

Kind(eren):

1. Margaret 2nd Baroness of Wake  ± 1299-1349 

Notities over Sir John 1st Baron Wake [Wikibio] sss

John Wake, 1st Lord (Baron), so created by writ of summons to Parliament24 June 1295; campaigned in Gascony between 1288 and 1297 and against theScots 1297-1300, Jt Captain of March of Scotland in Cumberland andWestmorland 1297, fought at Battle of Falkirk 1298; married by 24 Sep1291 Joan (died just prior to 26 Oct 1309), allegedly daughter of SirJohn FitzBernard, of Kingsdown, Kent or William de Fenes, a SpanishCount, and possibly a relative of Edward I, and died just prior to 10April 1300. [Burke's Peerage]

Note: I have put both Joan(s) in as wives of John. Only one (Joan deFiennes) was probably his wife. Ancestral Roots has a little moreexplicit (and different) information on "Joan de Fenes", naming her Joande Fiennes, daughter of a non-Spanish, French/Englishman named William deFiennes by Blanche de Brienne. Douglas Richardson of SGM confirms thisidentity as daughter of William de Fiennes, Knt, seigneur of Fiennes andTingry (Pas-de-Calais/Artois, France), and in England, of Chokes andGayton, Northants and Wendover Bucks.

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BARONY OF WAKE (I)

JOHN WAKE, son and heir, by 2nd wife, was born probably late in 1268. Hewas granted protection, 15 November 1288, to go to Gascony, was summonedfor service in Gascony, 1294, in company with the King's brother Edmund,and was summoned for service across the seas in 1297. In March 1293/4 hewas going to Scotland, where he was in 1296 and 1298, and he was summonedagainst the Scots, 1297-1300. He was summoned to Parliament from 24 June1295 to 29 December 1299, by writs directed Johanni Wake, whereby he isheld to have become LORD WAKE. He was Captain, with others, of the Marchof Scotland in Cumberland and Westmorland, 18 October 1297. He fought inthe 2nd line under the Bishop of Durham at the battle of Falkirk, 22 July1298; was a Commissioner to deal with Scottish prisoners, July 1299; andwas called to meet the Barons of the Exchequer at York, January1299/1300. He married, before 24 September 1291, Joan de Fiennes. He diedshortly before 10 April 1300. She died shortly before 26 October 1309.[Complete Peerage XII/2:301-2, XIV:623, (transcribed by Dave Utzinger)]

Note: Apparently the preponderance of evidence identifies John's wife asJoan de Fiennes, daughter of William de Fiennes by Blanche de Brienne (asstated in AR line 236-10). This is based on an article in 'GenealogistMagazine' by John Carmi Parsons entitled 'Court and Household of Eleanorof Castile in 1290', (1977): 41, 44-46. Originally CP XII/2 named hiswife Joan with a note (c) that stated she may be a daughter of JohnFitzBernard or of William de Fenes, but this was corrected by volume XIVin favor of Joan de Fiennes as it now reads in the above text. . . .ALTHOUGH to confuse matters even more: Faris' Plantagenet Ancestry, 2ndEdition, page 185, indicates that Margaret Wake's parents were "JohnWake, 1st Lord Wake, by Joan, daughter of John Fitz Bernard, Knt., ofKingsdown, Kent." I have been told that the 1st edition of the book hadJoan de Fiennes as the mother, but the 2nd edition, published in 1999,appears to take a step backwards. Did they find out something new?

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