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Personal data Renaud I van Bar 

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Household of Renaud I van Bar

He is married to Gisele de Vaudémont.

They got married.


Child(ren):

  1. Agnes van Bar  ????-> 1185 
  2. Renaud II van Bar  ????-1170 
  3. Clemence van Bar  1127-> 1183 
  4. Mathilde van Bar  1135-???? 


Notes about Renaud I van Bar

RENAUD, son of THIERRY de Mousson & his wife Ermentrude de Bourgogne [Comté] ([1075/77]-on ship in the Mediterranean 25 Feb or 10 Mar 1149).  "Filia Wilelmi comitis de Burgundia Hermentrudis et filii sui Fridericus, Raginaudus, Theodericus" founded the Cluniac abbey of Froidefontaine by charter dated 8 Mar 1105 in which she names "suis antecessoribus…filiis autem Theoderici atque sue uxoris Hermentrudis, Lodewico, Wilelmo, Hugone"[112].  The Chronicle of Alberic de Trois-Fontaines names "Raynaldum comitem filium Theoderici Barrensis"[113].  Comte de Bar et de Mousson.  Seigneur de Commercy:  as "comte Renaud", he sold the fortress of Commercy to the abbé de Saint-Mihiel in 1106[114].  During the dispute between Pope Pascal II and Heinrich V King of Germany concerning the election of Richard de Grandpré as Bishop of Verdun, comte Renaud arrested the Pope's representative and imprisoned him in the château de Grandpré.  The Bishop-elect confiscated the avouerie of Dieulouard from Renaud and gave it to Guillaume Comte de Luxembourg, in addition investing the latter with the counties of Stenay and Mouzay.  The resulting war lasted from 1111 to 1114, ending with the storming of the château de Bar in Jun 1114 and the Emperor's capture of comte Renaud, who was released in return for a promise of homage.  Comte Renaud reached a compromise with Guillaume de Luxembourg, which included the cession of Stenay and Mouzay.  Comte Renaud also acquired the county of Verdun, although the citizens of the town wounded him while resisting his occupation[115].  Emperor Heinrich V confiscated Verdun in 1120, in revenge for Renaud's military assistance for the installation of Henri de Blois as Bishop of Verdun, and awarded the county to Henri Comte de Grandpré.  Comte Renaud finally made peace at Chalade in 1124 and regained possession of Verdun[116].  "Comes Rainaldus" restored property at Maidières to Liège Saint-Lambert on the advice of "fratris nostri Stephani Metensi episcopi" by charter dated 1128, subscribed by "comes Paganus, comes Folmarus, Hugonellus heres et filius meus"[117].  He claimed the fortress of Bouillon from the Bishop of Liège, as successor to Godefroi de Bouillon [Boulogne] Duke of Lower Lotharingia, to whom he was distantly related through his paternal grandmother, and captured the castle in 1134.  Etienne Bishop of Metz donated “prædium in feodo Commarciensi...Bernaicuria...sylvam etiam Commarciensem...Foreid” to Riéval “per manum comitis Rainaldi præfati Commarciensis feodi possessoris...collaudante filiisque eius Hugone et Rainaldo” by undated charter, witnessed by “Gerardo castellano...”[118].  The dispute over Bouillon continued, and the bishop besieged the castle in 1141, the death of his oldest son finally persuading Renaud to relinquish possession 22 Sep 1141[119].  Henri Bishop of Toul confirmed the donation of property “molendinum in Commarciensi” made by “comite...Renaldo et ab utroque eius filio Ugone et Renaldo, a dominoque Stephano Metensi episcopo” by charter dated 9 Mar 1141 (O.S.?)[120].  “Raynaudus...comes Muntiensis” confirmed the donation made by “Bernacrius vir militaris de castro Montiensi” to the church of Saint-Thiébaut-lez-Saint-Mihiel by charter dated 1145[121].  Comte Renaud took part in the Second Crusade in 1147, but died during the return sea voyage[122].  The necrology of Verdun Saint-Vanne records the death "V Kal Mar" of "Raynardus comes Barensis"[123]. 

[Note: uncorroborated first marriage.  According to Poull[124], Comte Renaud married twice.  The author states that this first wife gave birth to a child during the siege of Mousson castle by imperial troops in 1113.  He cites Laurent de Liège, although this source makes no mention of any birth in his detailed description of the siege of the castle[125].  No other indication has been found of this alleged first marriage or the birth of a son in 1113.  Poull dates the alleged first marriage to [1110], although he does not explain the basis for his argument.] 

m (before [1120]) GISELE de Vaudémont, widow of RAINARD [III] Comte de Toul, daughter of GERARD [I] Comte de Vaudémont & his [second] wife Heilwig von Egisheim ([before 1095?]-26 Dec after 1141, bur Saint-Mihiel).  The Chronicle of Alberic de Trois-Fontaines names "comitem Wanderii Montis Hugonem et sororem eius Gislam" as children of "Gerardum…primus comes Wanderi Montis" & his [second] wife, specifying that Gisela was "comitissa Barri"[126].  The chronology of the lives of her children by her first marriage suggests that Gisèle was probably born before [1095].  Her first marriage is deduced from the same source which records that "comes Raynaldus Barri" became the stepfather ("vitricus") of "comitis Frederici Tullensis et fratrum suorum Theoderici et Wedrici" although without naming his wife[127].  It should be noted that these two texts do not establish beyond doubt that the widow of Rainard Comte de Toul was also the daughter of Gérard Comte de Vaudémont.  It is therefore not impossible that Comte Renaud married twice, firstly to Gisèle daughter of Comte Gérard, and secondly to the unnamed widow of Comte Rainard.  However, no indication has yet been found in the primary sources to indicate that this is correct. 

Comte Renaud & his wife had [eight] children:
HUGUES de Bar (-Château de Bouillon 29 Sep 1141, bur Saint-Mihiel)
RENAUD de Bar (-25 Nov 1170, bur Saint-Mihiel).
DROGO de Bar .
THIERRY de Bar (-8 Aug 1171, bur Metz Cathedral).
AGNES de Bar (-after 1185).
CLEMENCE de Bar ([1123/27]]-after 20 Jan 1183)
MATHILDE de Bar ([before 1130/35?]-)
STEPHANIE de Bar (-12 Mar [1170/78])

Bronnen:

[113] Chronica Albrici Monachi Trium Fontium 1107, MGH SS XXIII, p. 818.

[114] Lesort Chronique Saint-Mihiel, no. 61, pp. 216-18, cited in Poull (1994), p. 78.

[115] Poull (1994), p. 90.

[116] Poull (1994), p. 91.

[117] Bormans, S. (1893) Cartulaire de l´Eglise Saint-Lambert de Liège, Tome I ("Liège Saint-Lambert"), XXXVI, p. 58.

[118] Præmonstratensis Annales (1736), Tome II, Probationes, col. cccciii.

[119] Poull (1994), p. 93.

[120] Præmonstratensis Annales (1736), Tome II, Probationes, col. ccccv.

[121] Lesort (1909), 90, p. 309.

[122] Poull (1994), pp. 98-9.

[123] Das Nekrolog des Klosters S Vanne, Jahrbuch der Gesellschaft für lothringische Geschichte und Altertumskunde, 14th year 1902 ("Necrology Verdun Saint-Vanne, 1902"), p. 137.

[124] Poull (1994), p. 99.

[125] Laurentii Gesta Episcoporum Virdunensium, MGH SS X, p. 509.

[126] Chronica Albrici Monachi Trium Fontium 1070, MGH SS XXIII, p. 796.

[127] Chronica Albrici Monachi Trium Fontium 1142, MGH SS XXIII, p. 836.

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Ancestors (and descendant) of Renaud I van Bar

Renaud I van Bar
????-± 1149


Gisele de Vaudémont
± 1095-> 1141

Agnes van Bar
????-> 1185
Clemence van Bar
1127-> 1183

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