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Personal data Robert Ier de Guînes Seigneur de Vrelenghem etc. 

• He was born in the year 1202.
• He died in the year 1270, he was 68 years old.
• A child of Arnould II Comte de Guînes and Béatrice de Berg Dame de Bourbourg
• This information was last updated on June 9, 2013.

Household of Robert Ier de Guînes Seigneur de Vrelenghem etc.

He has/had a relationship with Maroite ou Marotain Dame de Hames.

Child(ren):

1. Jean Ier de Guînes  ????-> 1336 

Notes about Robert Ier de Guînes Seigneur de Vrelenghem etc.

Seigneur de Hames, Vrelengheghem , de Sangatte, de Fontaines en partie, Bonnières-lès-Guînes, Bavelinghem en partie, les francs-alleux d'Ardres ...etc.

Il parait par titres de l'abbaye de Saint-Bertin de 1244, 1257, etc., et semble être décédé la fête de la Pentecôte de l'an 1270.

Généalogie de Guînes de Bonnières, dans Mercure de France, Tome 6, Paris, 1754, p. 189ff.
.... La maison de Guînes de Bonnières se traît "en ligne direct et masculine de la seconde maison des comtes de Guînes, formée par Wenemar, châtelain de Gand, et Gilles, Comtesse héritière de la maison de Guînes, qui eurent pour fils Arnould Ier de ce nom;"......."celui ci ayant laissé pour comte du pays de Guînes Baudouin III. L'un de ses fils, ledit Baudouin légue à Robert, son frère, pour testament de 1244, reposant à l'abbaye de St.-Bertin, la terre et la maison de Bavelinghem. Ledit Robert avoit eu pour appanage celles de Vrelenghem, de Bonnières-lez-Guînes, de Fontaines etc. et laissa de sa femme Maroitte, Dame de Hames, Robert de Guînes II du nom, nommé par le comte Arnould III de Guînes (1270) 'son chier cousin et fiaulx Monseigneur Robert, Chevalier, Seigneur de Vrelenghem et de Hames'. Ce Robert est dit frère de Jean Ier, seigneur de Bonnières-lez-Guînes, Bavelinghem et Fontaines, dans un titre de 1295, et y sont nommés des cousins de Jean de Guînes, vicomte de Meaux, fils dudit Arnould III.
Ce Jean, Seigneur de Bonnières, laissa de Marguerite de Neufville Jean II, lequel écartela les armes de Guînes de celles de sa mere, comme puîné des seigneurs de Hames que portait en plain après la mort du dernier comte de Guînes en 1294.
Il laissa d'Antoinette d'Humieres Jean III, seigneur de Bonnières, gouverneur de Boulogne, qui l'an 4110 laissa de la fille du seigneur de Montigny Saint-Christophe, Guillaume, chambellan du Roi et des Ducs de Bourgogne Jean et Philippe, gouverneur d'Arras, Bapaume et Avesnes (1409), lequel eut de Jeanne de Fiennes Jean IV., chambellan du mêmes bon Duc Philippe (1424)"....

Source:
J. de Herckenrode, Nobiliaire des Pays-Bas et du comté de Bourgogne, volume 1,2 (1865), p.896-924: généalogie de Guînes de Bonnières (n°08).

His first marriage was with Marotte de Hames. A second marriage is uncertain.

http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/NORTHERN%20FRANCE.htm#ArnoulIIGuinesdied1220B

ARNOUL de Guines, son of BAUDOUIN Comte de Guines & his wife Christine d'Ardres (-1220, bur Ardres). The Historia Comitum Ghisnensium names (in order) "Mabiliam…Arnoldum…Willelmum… Manassem…Balduinum" as children of "Balduinus Ghisnensis comitis Arnoldi filius" & his wife[955]. “Balduinus comes Gisnensis” exchanged land with the monastery of Andres by charter dated to [1170], witnessed by "Willelmus frater meus, Ernulfus et Willelmus filii mei…"[956]. “Balduinus comes Gisnensis” donated property to Andres abbey, with the consent of "Arnulfus de Gisnes castellanus de Borburg filius meus", by charter dated 1203 witnessed by "Ægidio de Loressa filio meo…"[957]. He succeeded his father as Comte de Guines. The Red Book of the Exchequer records "comes de Guisnes" holding one knight´s fee and one half "in Parva Hoilande", and three "in Toleshund, quam Ernulfus de Hardres dedit Baldewino comiti in maritagio cum filia sua", both in Essex, Hertfordshire in [1210/12][958]. The Chronica Andrensis records the death in 1220 of "Arnulphus comes Gisnensis" and his burial "in hoc loco"[959]. Adam Bishop of Morins confirmed the possessions of Notre-Dame de Licques, including the donation of “curtem de Mas” made by “Arnulfi comitis Gisnensis et Baldvini filii eius” with the consent of “Theoderici comitis Flandrensis”, by charter dated Feb 1224[960].

[961]Betrothed (after 1186, contract broken before Apr 1190) to IDA de Flandre Ctss de Boulogne, daughter of MATTHIEU de Flandres Comte de Boulogne & his first wife Marie de Blois Ctss de Boulogne ([1160/61]-21 Apr 1216, bur Boulogne).

m (before Mar 1200) BEATRIX de Bourbourg, daughter of GAUTHIER de Bourbourg & his wife Mathilde de Bethune (-Bourbourg Aug 1224). "Beatrix comitissa de Gisnes et castellana de Bourbourch" donated property to the abbey of Saint-Jean-Baptiste de Choques, for the souls of "patris mei Walteri castellani de Bourbourch et matris meæ Mathildis de Bethunia dominæ de Chokes et Arnoldi comitis Gisnensis mariti mei et fratris mei Henrici castellani de Bourbourch", by charter dated 12 May 1221[962]. Heiress of Bourbourg and Aalst. The Chronica Andrensis records the death in Aug 1224 "apud Broburgh" of "Beatrix comitissa de Gisnes et castellana de Broburg" after a reconciliation with her eldest son Baudouin following many disputes after the death of her husband[963]. Her family origin is indicated by the 13th century Histoire des ducs de Normandie et des rois d´Angleterre which records that "Robiers de Biethune" captured "Gisnes el castiel" and "la contesse…sa cousine germaine", dated to [1214] from the context[964]. "Beatrix comitissa de Gisnes et castellana de Broborg" donated property at Bounham to build a monastery, for the souls of "Arnulphi mariti mei comitis de Gisnes, patris mei Waltheri castellani de Broborg, matrique meæ Mathildis de Bethunia", by charter dated Dec 1223[965].

Comte Arnoul & his wife Beatrix had [ten] children:

1. BEATRIX de Guines (-after May 1244). The Historia Comitum Ghisnensium names "Beatricem, Christianam et Matildem" as the children of “castellana Broburgensis et Ardensis domina...Beatrix a viro suo...Arnoldo de Ghisnis”[966]. The Chronica Andrensis names "Beatrix comitissa Gisnensis primogenita" when recording that she became a nun at "ecclesia Broburgensis" in 1218[967]. Abbess of Bounham. "Baudewins cuens de Gines et chastellains de Broubbergh" donated grazing rights at Bounham to "Seur Beatris me tres-chiere Sereur et au couvent du novel lieu Nostre dame de Leisbistade" by charter dated May 1244[968].

2. CHRISTINE de Guines . The Historia Comitum Ghisnensium names "Beatricem, Christianam et Matildem" as the children of “castellana Broburgensis et Ardensis domina...Beatrix a viro suo...Arnoldo de Ghisnis”[969]. m SALAMON Belle, son of ---.

3. MATHILDE de Guines (-1262). The Historia Comitum Ghisnensium names "Beatricem, Christianam et Matildem" as the children of “castellana Broburgensis et Ardensis domina...Beatrix a viro suo...Arnoldo de Ghisnis”[970]. The two sources quoted below suggest that her marriage is correct. However, the necrology of Chartres cathedral records the death "V Id Apr" of "Hugo de Castellione comes Sancti Pauli", stating that "uxorem Mariam" donated property for his soul[971], "Mariam" presumably being a mistake in this entry for "Mathildem". Mathilde must have been middle-aged at the time of her marriage given the marriage date of her parents and the mention of her husband´s second wife in Apr 1241. Undated letters of "Mahaut de Ghisnes comtesse de S. Paul" acquitted "Jean de Chastillon comte de Blois fils aisné…messire Hue de Chastillon comte de S. Paul son mary" for her dower[972]. A manuscript of Saint-Bertin records the death in 1262 of "Mathildis comitissa de Guisnes et S. Pauli vidua Hugonis de Sancto Paulo et Balduini comitis Guisnensis soror"[973]. m as his third wife, HUGUES Comte de Saint-Pol, son of GAUCHER [III] Seigneur de Châtillon-sur-Marne Comte de Saint-Pol & his wife Elisabeth Ctss de Saint-Pol (before 1196-9 Apr 1248).

4. BAUDOUIN [III] de Guines (-after May 1244). The Historia Comitum Ghisnensium records the birth of "puerum Balduinum" to “Broburgensis castellana et Ardensis domina...Beatrix”[974]. He succeeded his father in 1220 as Comte de Guines.

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5. ADELIDE de Guines . The Historia Comitum Ghisnensium records the births of "Adelidem et secundam Beatricem" to “Broburgensis castellana et Ardensis domina...Beatrix”[975].

6. BEATRIX de Guines (-1227 or after). The Historia Comitum Ghisnensium records the births of "Adelidem et secundam Beatricem" to “Broburgensis castellana et Ardensis domina...Beatrix”[976]. "Baudewins cuens de Ghines et chastellains de Broubergh" donated property to "seur Beatris me…sereur et au couvent [de]…nostre Dame de Leisbistade" by charter dated May 1244[977]. m ANSEAU [II] de Crecques, son of --- (-before 1246).

7. ROBERT de Guines nière(-after 1248). The testament of "Baudewins cuens de Ghisnes et castelains de Broborgh", dated 1244, bequeathed to "Robert mon frere me maison de Baulinghem ki fu M. me sereur…Adame de Tienbrone me nieche le bos de huonual tot ensi cumme ie l´aquis à Monseingneur Manessie mon oncle…"[978]. [m (after 10 Jan 1248) as her second husband, AMICE de Clare, widow of BALDWIN de Reviers Earl of Devon, daughter of GILBERT de Clare Earl of Gloucester and Hereford & his wife Isabel Marshal of Pembroke (27 May 1220[979]-27 Nov, before 21 Jan 1284). The primary source which confirms her parentage and marriage has not yet been identified. The necrology of the Priory of Saint-Martin-des-Champs records the death "V Kal Dec" of "Amitia comitissa Devonie"[980].]

8. HENRI de Guines (-after May 1244). A charter of Clairmarest abbey dated 1240 (presumably misdated, given that his brother Baudouin is named in 1244) names "Henrici de Gisnes militis fratris Balduini quondam comitis Ghisnensis"[981].

9. ARNOUL de Guines (-after 17 Mar 1261). "Arnulphus de Ghisnes miles, avunculus comitis de Ghisnes" founded the abbey of Peene by charter dated 17 Mar 1261[982]. m AELIDE, daughter of ---.

10. [--- . Adam´s mother was presumably one of the sisters of Baudouin [III] Comte de Guines who are named above, but there is no further indication of her precise identity.] m ---. One child:

a) ADAM de Tienbronne (-after 1244). The testament of "Baudewins cuens de Ghisnes et castelains de Broborgh", dated 1244, bequeathed to "Robert mon frere me maison de Baulinghem ki fu M. me sereur…Adame de Tienbrone me nieche le bos de huonual tot ensi cumme ie l´aquis à Monseingneur Manessie mon oncle…"[983].

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