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Personal data Sir John Stanley , KG, Sovereign Lord of Isle of Man 

Sources 1, 2, 3

Household of Sir John Stanley , KG, Sovereign Lord of Isle of Man

He is married to Isabel de Lathom.

They got married before 1385.Sources 2, 4


Child(ren):

  1. Agnes Stanley  ± 1382-????
  2. John Stanley  ± 1385-1437 
  3. Thomas Stanley  ± 1392-????
  4. George Stanley  ± 1392-????
  5. Joan Stanley  ± 1396-????
  6. Isabel Stanley  ± 1398-????


Notes about Sir John Stanley , KG, Sovereign Lord of Isle of Man

Steward to King Henry and Lord Deputy of Ireland

vol 2, pg 416, "The History of the County Palatine and City of Chester" by George Ormerod

vol 3, pg 577, "The History of the County Palatine and City of Chester" by George Ormerod

pg 67, "Ancestral Roots of Sixty Colonists etc" by Frederick Lewis Weiss, 6th Edition

pg 774, Burke's "Extant Peerage and Baronetcies etc" 1970 edition

pg 503, " A Genealogical History of the Dormant, Abeyant, Forfeited and Extinct Peerages of the British Empire" by Sir Bernard Burke, published 1883

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Sir John de Stanley, KG (c1405), Sovereign Lord of the Isle of Man; LordDeputy of Ireland for Robert de Vere, Marquess of Dublin 1386-88,Justiciary Ireland 1389-91, Justice of Chester 1394, Controller of RoyalHousehold 1399, Lt Ireland 1399-1401, Steward of Household to HenryPrince of Wales (later Henry V) c1403, Steward Macclesfield and Foresterand Ranger of same 1403, Governor of City and County of Chester 1403,granted by Henry IV (it having been forfeited by the Earl ofNorthumberland) the Isle, Castle, peel and Lordship of Man 1406;Constable of Windsor Castle 1409; Lt Ireland 1413-19. [Burke's Peerage]

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JOHN DE STANLEY, younger son.[a] In 1386 and until 1387/8 he was Deputyin Ireland for Robert de Vere, Marquess of Dublin; on 1 August 1389, hewas appointed Justiciary of Ireland; on 15 November 1391 he had licenceto leave Ireland for 12 years, having held office until some time before29 April 1391. On 20 August 1389 he received a grant for life of 100marks a year, having been retained by the King as his knight to serve himabove all others. On 28 April 1394 he was appointed Justice of Chester;on 3 October 1397 he was granted by the King an annuity of 40 marks forlife; on 4 March 1398/9 he was Controller of the Household. On 10December 1399 he was appointed Lieutenant of Ireland, and he was still inoffice on 5 April 1401, but had ceased to hold it on 12 July. However, on6 February 1401/2 he was about to go to Ireland on the King's service. On15 August 1403 he was granted certain lands of William de Stanley,"chivaler," his nephew, which had been forfeited for participation in therebellion of Henry Percy. He was appointed Steward of the Household ofHenry, Prince of Wales, before 13 September 1403, when he had a grant forlife of the offices of Steward of Macclesfield and Surveyor of theforests of Macclesfield, Mare and Mondrem, co. Chester, and MasterForester and Ranger of the same; and on 16 September 1403 he wasappointed Governor of the City and County of Chester. K.G. about 1405(after 5 December 1404]. On 10 February 1404/5, as the King's Knight, hewas granted a general pardon for all debts, &c. On 7 November 1404/5, asSteward of the Household, he was going on the King's service in hiscompany to Wales. On 4 October 1405 William de Stanley, knight, or hislieutenant in the Isle of Man, was ordered to deliver to John de Stanley,knight, or his attorney, the Isle, Castle, peel and lordship of Man; andon 6 April 1406 he was granted the same to himself, his heirs andassigns, with all islands and lordships pertaining thereto, subject to alimit of the value of £400 yearly, to hold with jura regalia, by serviceof 2 falcons at the Coronation. On 9 February 1406/7, as the King'sknight, Steward of the King's Household, he, with his wife Isabel, wasgranted free warren in the manors of Lathom and Knowsley, &c. co. Lancs.On 3 July 1409 he was granted for life the office of constable of WindsorCastle, with other offices. On 8 June 1413 he was appointed King'sLieutenant of Ireland for six years (j). He married, in or before 1385,Isabel, daughter and heir of Thomas DE LATHOM, of Lathom and Knowsley,Lancs (k). He died before 28 January 1413/4. [Complete PeerageXII/1:248-9, (transcribed by Dave Utzinger)]

[a] In many pedigrees he is placed a generation lower, as son of Williamson of William son of John, of Wirral, who died 1398, leaving an elderson William, then aged 30. Since John, described as John son of Williamson of John, was in 1378 pardoned for good service done and to be done inAquitaine, he cannot have been yr. br. of the William who was aged 30 in1398; as was pointed out by Ormerod. This John Stanley and his son Johnare to be distinguished from John Stanley and his son John, who were ofthe Wirrall or elder branch of the family. John Stanley of Wirrallappears in 1415; in 1427, as the "King's esquire" he was appointedConstable of Carnarvon; and in 1431 to be Serjeant of the King's armouryin the Tower of London. He was later usher of the chamber and sheriff ofAnglesey. He appears to have been dead in 1471, when his lands atBattersea, Surrey, and those of his son John were forfeited to the King.He was probably great-nephew to the John Stanley who married Isabel deLathom.

(j) On 9 June ships were provided for his passage with his men andservants and 1,000 horses.

(k) In 1385 the Duke of Lancaster successfully proceeded against him inParliament for unlawful entry on the manor of Knowsley, which he claimedas remaining to his wife Isabel in tail. The manor was evidentlyadjusted, since the manor remained in the Stanley family. On 24 Dec 1398he obtained a dispensation for the marriage, where it seems to besuggested that his relationship was that of third cousin once removedthrough the Mascys.

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Ancestors (and descendant) of John Stanley

John Stanley
± 1285-1346
Emma de Lathom
± 1290-< 1334
Hamon VII de Massey
± 1292-± 1356
William Stanley
± 1319-± 1398
Alice de Massey
± 1339-????

John Stanley
1350-????

< 1385

Isabel de Lathom
± 1364-1414

Agnes Stanley
± 1382-????
John Stanley
± 1385-1437
Thomas Stanley
± 1392-????
George Stanley
± 1392-????
Joan Stanley
± 1396-????
Isabel Stanley
± 1398-????

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Sources

  1. Complete Peerage of England Scotland Ireland Great Britain and the United Kingdom, by G. E Cokayne, Sutton Publishing Lt, XII/1:248-249
  2. Ancestral Roots of Certain American Colonists, 7th Edition, by Frederick Lewis Weis, additions by Walter Lee Shippard Jr., 57-34
  3. Burke's Peerage & Baronetage, 106th Edition, Charles Mosley Editor-in-Chief, 1999, 815
  4. Complete Peerage of England Scotland Ireland Great Britain and the United Kingdom, by G. E Cokayne, Sutton Publishing Lt, XII/1:249

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