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Personal data Mary - Margaret Graham Countess of Menteith 

• Alternative names: Margaret Graham, Margaret Graham 10th Countess of Menteith, Margaret Countess of Menteith
• She was born in the year 1333 in Doune Castle, Doune, Stirling, Scotland.Sources 5, 9, 14

  Attention: Age at marriage (November 21, 1348) below 16 years (15).

  Monteith, Perthshire, region between the river Teith and the river

• Occupations:
• Countess of Menteith.Sources 12, 13, 15
• Duchess.
• (Alt. Birth) before 1334.Sources 11, 16
• (Alt. Birth) about 1334: Perthshire, Scotland.Source 7
• (Alt. Birth) about 1340.Source 8
• (Alt. Birth) about 1341: Menteith, Stirling, Scotland.Source 4

  Forth

• (Alt. Death) between July 20, 1372 and May 4, 1380.Sources 12, 17
• (Alt. Death) after July 20, 1372.Source 7
• (Alt. Death) in the year 1380.Source 11
• (Alt. Death) before May 4, 1380.Sources 5, 9, 13, 14, 18, 19
• She died in the year 1380 in Inchmahome Priory, Perthshire, Scotland, she was 47 years old.Source 4
• She is buried before May 4, 1380 in Aberfoyle, Perth, Scotland, United Kingdom.Source 7
• A child of John Graham and Mary Stewart
• This information was last updated on December 4, 2022.

Household of Mary - Margaret Graham Countess of Menteith

(1) She is married to Robert [Stewart] Stuart.

They got married on September 9, 1361 at Menteith, Stirling, Scotland, she was 28 years old.Source 4

MARR: CONC Forth

Child(ren):

1. Murdoch Stuart  1362-1425 
2. Beatrice Stuart  1365-1424
3. Mary Stuart  1367-1420 
4. Janet Stewart  1369-???? 
5. Margaret Stuart  1370-???? 
6. Isabel Stuart  1372-???? 
7. John Stuart  ± 1381-1424 
8. Margaret (or Joan) Stewart  ± 1390-< 1443 

(2) She is married to John Drummond.

They got married after 1359.Sources 5, 13

(3) She is married to John Moray.

They got married on November 21, 1348, she was 15 years old.Sources 7, 17

(4) She is married to Thomas of Mar.

They got married on May 29, 1354, she was 21 years old.Sources 7, 15

The couple are divorced.

Notes about Mary - Margaret Graham Countess of Menteith

E: Margaret Graham, Countess of Menteith (b before 1334, d c1380)
.. m1. (c1348) Sir John Moray of Bothwell (dsp before 05.09.1351)
m2. (c1353, div by 02.1359) Thomas, 9th Earl of Mar (b after 1327, dsp before 21.06.1374)
m3. (by 1360) John Drummond of Concraig (d before 09.1361)
m4. (c1361) Robert Stewart, 1st Duke of Albany (b 1339, d 03.09.1420)

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[Isiaha Lee.ged]
[Thomas C. Renehan.ged]

MARGARET (Graham), suo jure Countess Of Menteith [SCT], only surviving child and heir.  She married, 1stly (under dispensation 21 November 1348), Sir John MORAY of Bothwell,.son and heir of Sir Andrew MORAY of Bothwell (died 1338), hereditary Chief Butler [SCT], by Christian BRUCE, sister of King ROBERT I, and daughter of Robert (BRUCE), EARL OF CARRICK.  Sir John died s.p., between 20 April 1351 and 15 August 1352, the date of the 1st dispensation for his widow's 2nd marriage. She married, 2ndly, between the said 15 August and 29 May 1354, Thomas, Earl Of Mar [SCT], from whom she was divorced in or before 1359. She married 3rdly, in or before 1359, Sir John DRUMMON, of Concraig, who died before 9 September 1361, when she had dispensation to marry Robert STEWART, afterwards Earl Of Fife and Duke Of Albany [SCT], and sometime Regent of Scotland, who died 3 September 1420.  In the dispensation for her 3rd marriage (29 April 1360) Margaret is styled Countess Of Menteith.  No evidence has been found of the use of the title by Drummond.  Robert Stewart after his marriage was styled Lord of Menteith, and as sucit attended Parliaments 1367 and 1368. His father succeeded to the throne of Scotland, 22 February 1370/1, and was crowned 26 March; on the following day his son Robert did homage to him as Earl Of Menteith and on the 30th made an agreement with Isabel, Countess of Fife, touching the Earldom of Fife, after his succession to which Earldom he and his wife used the style of Fife and Menteith-see FIFE.  The Countess died between 20 July 1372 and 4 May 1380.  See fuller particulars sub ALBANY, Dukedom [SCT].
[Complete Peerage VIII:667-8]

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Margaret, Countess Of Menteith, is chiefly distinguished for her matrimonial adventures, as very little is known regarding her, except in connection with her husbands.  She was born apparently some time before 1334, when her parents had a dispensation authorising their marriage and legitimising their offspring.  Nothing further is stated of her until in November 1348 a dispensation was granted for her marriage with John Moray, Lord of Bothwell, and in this writ she is designated Margaret Graham, daughter of John Graham, Earl Of Menteith.  As a result of the marriage John Moray is said to have borne the title of Earl Of Menteith, but the authority is not entirely satisfactory, and as he died in 1351, while his mother-in-law was still Countess Of Menteith in her own right, it seems strange that he should have been styled Earl.  In the following year a dispensation was granted to Margaret, widow of the late John Moray, for her marriage with Thomas, Earl Of Mar.  Either they anticipated this dispensation, or it never reached Scotland, as on 29 May 1354 another dispensation was issued, legalising the marriage which had taken place in the interval.  This second dispensation proceeds on the ground that no other had been granted, a strange fact when it is understood that Queen Joanna of Scotland had interested herself in obtaining the first.  Scarcely had the new dispensation reached Scotland when the Earl Of Mar, 'instigated by the devil,' as the old chronicler has it, divorced his wife because she had no children. ; When this event took place is not exactly known, but in 1360 another papal dispensation was granted, legalising the union she had formed some time before with John Drummond of Concraig, and legitimising their offspring.  The dispensation styles her Margaret, Countess Of Menteith, and about the same date she, as Countess, grants the lands of Aberfoyle to John Drummond of Concraig, and to the children born betwixt them, a grant confirmed by King David II on 12 November 1361.  The fact that she is styled Countess seems to imply that her mother had then died, probably about 1359.  Countess Margaret's third husband must have died soon after the granting of the dispensation, or after 17 May 1360, if, as seems probable, he was the John Drummond who took part in the agreement made on that day with the Menteiths, with whom he had been at feud. ; He was certainly deceased before 9 September 1361, when a fifth dispensation was issued for the marriage of Margaret, Countess Of Menteith, with Robert Stewart, third son of Robert, Earl of Strathearn (afterwards King Robert II), the intending spouses being themselved the petitioners. ; The marriage seems to have taken place soon after the date of the dispensation, and the Countess appears again only twice on record, first, in the indenture between her husband and Isabella, Countess of Fife, as to the earldom of Fife, which carried out the entail made by Isabella's father to Alan, Earl Of Menteith, grandfather of the Countess Margaret.  The indenture was dated 30 March 1371, and thereafter she and her husband held the two earldoms of Fife and Menteith.  The second and latest known reference to Countess Margaret is in the marriage-contract on 21 July 1372 of her daughter Janet to David De Loen.  When the Countess died is not exactly known, but she was deceased before 4 May 1380, when a dispensation was issued for the Earl Of Fife's marriage with Muriella Keith.
[The Scots Peerage VI:138-140]

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[Jim Weber.ged]

Margaret Graham, Countess of Menteith in her own right, carried the title with its caput or chief seat of Doune Castle to her 4th husband, Robert Stuart, Duke of Albany, with whom she was ancestor of the Earls of Castle Stewart and of Moray.
[Burke's Peerage]

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Margaret, d. between 20 July 1372 and 4 May 1380, suo juris Countess of Menteith.
[Magna Charta Sureties]

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He [Robert Stewart] m., 1stly (dispensation 9 Sep 1361), Margaret, suo jure Countess of Menteith (who had previously been the wife of Sir John Moray of Bothwell (dsp. 1352), of Thomas Erskine, 9th Earl of Mar, and of Sir John Drummond of Concraig), daughter (only surviving child & heir) of John Graham, jure uxoris Earl of Menteith, by Mary, suo jure Countess of Menteith.  She d. about 1380, between 21 Jul 1372 and 4 May 1380.
[Complete Peerage I:77-79, XIV:15]

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