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Personal data Bâ©atrice de Vermandois
Source 1- She was born about 880 in of, Vermandois, Normandy, France.Source 1
- She died about March 26, 931 in Soissons, Aisne, Picardy, France.Source 1
- A child of Hâ©ribert I of VERMANDOIS and Lietgardis de Troyes
- This information was last updated on March 17, 2024.
Household of Bâ©atrice de Vermandois
(1) She is married to Robert I de Robertiens Capet of France.
They got married
Child(ren):
- Hugh France 915-956
- Adele deFrance 1032-1080
- Hildegarde de Bourgogne 1037-1104
(2) She is married to Robert Ier de France.
They got married
Child(ren):
- Hugues le de FRANCE 895-956
- Emma Robertien ????-934
Notes about Bâ©atrice de Vermandois
Bâ©atrice Beatrix de Vermandois
French: Bâ©atrice de Vermandois
Gender:
Female
Birth:
circa 880
Death:
circa March 26, 931 (42-59)
Soissons, Aisne, Picardy, France
Place of Burial:
Soissons, Aisne, Picardie, Hauts-de-France
Immediate Family:
Daughter of Hâ©ribert I de Vermandois, comte de Vermandois, Senlis, Pâ©ronne and Lietgardis de Troyes
Wife of Robert I, king of West Francia
Mother of Hugh "Magnus" of Paris, count of Paris, duke of the Franks
Sister of Hâ©ribert II, count of Vermandois; Adâ®le de Vermandois and Cunâ©gonde de Vermandois
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her father ·Üí Hugues Capet, roi des Francs
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his father ·Üí Bâ©atrice de Vermandois
his mother
From the Foundation for Medieval Genealogy page on France Capetian Kings:
The name of Robert's first wife is not known. However, as King Robert's known wife Bâ©atrix de Vermandois could not have been the mother of his daughter Adela (married to the brother of Bâ©atrix) it is assumed that this earlier marriage is correct.
According to Europâ§ische Stammtafeln[63], Robert's first wife was named AELIS. This may be based on the 21 May 907 donation of Rebais abbey to the church of Paris which refers to "comitis Rotberti et Adele comitisse"[64]. However, as shown below, this is more likely to refer to Robert and his daughter than his wife.
Robert married secondly ([897]%29 BEATRIX de Vermandois, daughter of HERIBERT I Comte de Vermandois & his wife --- ([880/83]-after 26 Mar 931).
The Historia Francorum Senonensis records that "sororem Herberti" was the wife of "Robertus princeps" who rebelled against Charles III "le Simple" King of France[65]. Guillaume de Jumiâ®ges records that Duke Robert's wife was the sister of Hâ©ribert, by whom he had a son Hugues[66]. "Hugo rector Abbatiⶠsancti Martini" names "genitoris nostri Rotberti quondam regis ac genitricis nostrⶠdomnⶠBeatricis" in his charter dated 26 Mar 931[67].
The marriage date is estimated by Werner on the assumption that the marriage accompanied the political reconciliation between Bâ©atrix's father and Robert's uncle[68]. If the 907 donation mentioned above in fact refers to Robert's first wife, the marriage would of course have taken place after that date.
King Robert I & his first wife had one child:
1. [ADELA] (before 898-).
The Chronicle of Alberic de Trois-Fontaines refers to "comitis Heriberti generဦRoberti" and in a later passage to the sister of "dux Hugo Cappatus" as the wife of "comitis Heriberti de Peroni, Campanie et Veromandie" but does not name her[69].
Her origin is confirmed by Flodoard naming "Hugo dux cum nepotibus suis, Heriberti filiis" in 943[70].
Her birth date is estimated from the birth of her first child in [915]. Her name is deduced as follows. The 21 May 907 donation of Rebais abbey to the church of Paris refers to "comitis Rotberti et Adele comitisse"[71]. Although this phrasing usually indicates husband and wife, Settipani suggests that the chronology of the life of King Robert's son Hugues (attested as Robert's son by his second wife Bâ©atrix) favours his birth, and therefore his father's second marriage, well before 907, which would mean "Adele" could not have been Robert's wife. This reasoning appears based firstly on Hugues already being married in [914], and secondly on the probability of his having reached the age of majority when he was recognised as duke in 922.
The 907 document is explained as referring to Robert and his elder daughter. The issue, however, is not beyond doubt, especially if the document in question was misdated.
m (before 21 May 907) HERIBERT II Comte de Vermandois, son of HERIBERT I Comte de Vermandois[-Carolingian] & his wife [Liedgardis] --- ([880]-23 Feb 943, bur Saint Quentin).
King Robert I & his [first/second] wife had one child:
2. EMMA (-2 Nov 934). Flodoard names "Emma regis Rotberti filia" when recording that she obliged Seulf Archbishop of Reims to consecrate her as queen at Reims in 923 in the absence of her husband fighting[72]. Rodulfus Glaber names "Emmam·Ä¶sororem·Ä¶magni Hugonis" as wife of "Rodulfus, Richardi ducis Burgundiⶠfilius", suggesting that she was instrumental in persuading her brother to support her husband's accession as king[73]. "Emme nostri imperii consortis" and "Emma coniux mea" is named in the charters of "Rodolfus Francorum rex" dated 21 Jun 931 and 1 Jul 931[74].
There is no indication whether Emma was born from her father's first or second marriage.
Flodoard records the death of "Emma regina" at the end of his passage dated 934[75]. The necrology of the abbey of Saint-Germain-des-Prâ©s records the death "IV Non Nov" of "domna Emma regina"[76].
m ([911/19]%29 RODOLPHE [Raoul] Comte de Bourgogne, son of RICHARD ·Äúle Justicier·Äù Duke of Burgundy & his wife Adâ©lais d·ÄôAuxerre [Welf] (-Auxerre, Yonne 15/16 Jan 936, bur Abbaye de Sainte-Colombe de Sens).
He succeeded his father in 921 as Duke of Burgundy. He was elected as RAOUL King of France in 13 Jul 923 at Soissons to succeed his father-in-law, consecrated by Gautier Archbishop of Sens at the Abbey of Saint-Mâ©dard de Soissons.
King Robert I & his second wife had one child:
3. HUGUES ([898]-Dourdan, Essonne 16 Jun 956, bur â©glise de l'Abbaye royale de Saint-Denis). He was installed as HUGUES "le Grand" Duc des Francs in 936.
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From: http://www.francogene.com/quebec--genealogy/010/010408.php
The family of Robert Ier de FRANCE and Bâ©atrice de VERMANDOIS
[10408] FRANCE (de), Robert Ier (..), roi
married , from .. (France)
VERMANDOIS (de), Bâ©atrice (Hâ©ribert Ier & .. [10409])
1) Hugues le Grand, died 956-06-17 or 956-07-01 Dourdan (Essonne : 910200), France, buried Saint-Denis (Seine-Saint-Denis : 930066), France, married Mayence ou Ingelheim (Germany) 938 Hedwidge de SAXE
Bibliographie : Mâ©moires (Sociâ©tâ© gâ©nâ©alogique canadienne-franâßaise)
From the English Wikipedia page on Bâ©atrice of Vermandois:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/B%C3%A9atrice_of_Vermandois
Bâ©atrice of Vermandois (c. 880 ·Äì after March 26, 931) was the daughter of Herbert I, Count of Vermandois.
Marriage and issue
She married in 895 Robert (d. 923), Marquis of Neustria, who became the King of France in 922. They had the following:
1. Emma, married around 918 to Rudolph, Duke of Burgundy, later King of France.
2. Hugh the Great, duke of the Franks, who was the father of Hugh Capet.
References
Patrick Van Kerrebrouck, Nouvelle histoire gâ©nâ©alogique de l'auguste maison de France, vol. 1 : La Prâ©histoire des Capâ©tiens (par Christian Settipani), 1993
Queen of Western Francia 922·Äì923
Preceded by Eadgifu of England
Succeeded by Emma of France (daughter)
From http://www.rpi.edu/~holmes/Hobbies/Genealogy/ps03/ps03_444.htm
W.H.Turton, "The Plantagenet Ancestry" (Balt.:Gen.Pub.Co.,1968),p.112, gives Beatrix' mother as ______ "of France,"daughter of Robert the Strong, Count of Blois (ID1428). "Ancestral Roots..." (Balt., 1992) 53-18 gives her mother as Bertha de Morvois.
References: [Weis1],[AR7]
Bâ©atrice of Vermandois (c. 880 ·Äì after March 26, 931) was the wife of Robert I, King of France . She is sometimes stated to be the sister of Herbert II, Count of Vermandois. No contemporary source explicitly states that Heribert II and Beatrix were the children of Herbert I, and researchers are divided on the probability of this relationship.
Marriage and issue: She married in 895 Robert (d. 923), Marquis of Neustria, who became the King of France in 922. They had the following:
Richilda of France
Hugh the Great, duke of the Franks, who was the father of Hugh Capet.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bâ©atrice_of_Vermandois
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his mother¬â ·ÜíElisabeth de Vermandois, dame de Crâ©py¬â
her mother‰ ᆒ‰ Hugues I 'Magnus', Comte de Vermandois‰
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his father¬â ·ÜíBâ©atrice de Vermandois¬â
his mother
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Beatrix de Vermandois
French: Bâ©atrice de Vermandois
Gender:
Female
Birth:
circa 880
Death:
circa March 26, 931‰ (43-59)‰
Soissons, Aisne, Picardy, France
Place of Burial:
Soissons, Aisne, Picardie, Hauts-de-France
Immediate Family:
Daughter of¬â Hâ©ribert I, count of Vermandois¬â and¬â Lietgardis de Troyes¬â
Wife of‰ Robert I, King of France‰
Mother of‰ Hugues "the Great", duke of the Franks;‰ Adela de Vermandois‰ and‰ Richilda Robertian‰
Sister of¬â Cunâ©gonde de Vermandois;¬â Adâ®le de Vermandois¬â and¬â Hâ©ribert II, count of Vermandois¬â
From the Foundation for Medieval Genealogy‰ page on France Capetian Kings:
The name of Robert's first wife is not known. However, as King Robert's known wife Bâ©atrix de Vermandois could not have been the mother of his daughter Adela (married to the brother of Bâ©atrix) it is assumed that this earlier marriage is correct.
According to Europâ§ische Stammtafeln[63], Robert's first wife was named AELIS. This may be based on the 21 May 907 donation of Rebais abbey to the church of Paris which refers to "comitis Rotberti et Adele comitisse"[64]. However, as shown below, this is more likely to refer to Robert and his daughter than his wife.
Robert married secondly ([897]) BEATRIX de Vermandois, daughter of HERIBERT I Comte de Vermandois & his wife --- ([880/83]-after 26 Mar 931).
The Historia Francorum Senonensis records that "sororem Herberti" was the wife of "Robertus princeps" who rebelled against Charles III "le Simple" King of France[65]. Guillaume de Jumiâ®ges records that Duke Robert's wife was the sister of Hâ©ribert, by whom he had a son Hugues[66]. "Hugo rector Abbatiⶠsancti Martini" names "genitoris nostri Rotberti quondam regis ac genitricis nostrⶠdomnⶠBeatricis" in his charter dated 26 Mar 931[67].
The marriage date is estimated by Werner on the assumption that the marriage accompanied the political reconciliation between Bâ©atrix's father and Robert's uncle[68]. If the 907 donation mentioned above in fact refers to Robert's first wife, the marriage would of course have taken place after that date.
King Robert I & his first wife had one child:
1. [ADELA] (before 898-).
The Chronicle of Alberic de Trois-Fontaines refers to "comitis Heriberti generဦRoberti" and in a later passage to the sister of "dux Hugo Cappatus" as the wife of "comitis Heriberti de Peroni, Campanie et Veromandie" but does not name her[69].
Her origin is confirmed by Flodoard naming "Hugo dux cum nepotibus suis, Heriberti filiis" in 943[70].
Her birth date is estimated from the birth of her first child in [915]. Her name is deduced as follows. The 21 May 907 donation of Rebais abbey to the church of Paris refers to "comitis Rotberti et Adele comitisse"[71]. Although this phrasing usually indicates husband and wife, Settipani suggests that the chronology of the life of King Robert's son Hugues (attested as Robert's son by his second wife Bâ©atrix) favours his birth, and therefore his father's second marriage, well before 907, which would mean "Adele" could not have been Robert's wife. This reasoning appears based firstly on Hugues already being married in [914], and secondly on the probability of his having reached the age of majority when he was recognised as duke in 922.
The 907 document is explained as referring to Robert and his elder daughter. The issue, however, is not beyond doubt, especially if the document in question was misdated.
m (before 21 May 907) HERIBERT II Comte de Vermandois, son of HERIBERT I Comte de Vermandois[-Carolingian] & his wife [Liedgardis] --- ([880]-23 Feb 943, bur Saint Quentin).
King Robert I & his [first/second] wife had one child:
2. EMMA (-2 Nov 934). Flodoard names "Emma regis Rotberti filia" when recording that she obliged Seulf Archbishop of Reims to consecrate her as queen at Reims in 923 in the absence of her husband fighting[72]. Rodulfus Glaber names "Emmam·Ä¶sororem·Ä¶magni Hugonis" as wife of "Rodulfus, Richardi ducis Burgundiⶠfilius", suggesting that she was instrumental in persuading her brother to support her husband's accession as king[73]. "Emme nostri imperii consortis" and "Emma coniux mea" is named in the charters of "Rodolfus Francorum rex" dated 21 Jun 931 and 1 Jul 931[74].
There is no indication whether Emma was born from her father's first or second marriage.
Flodoard records the death of "Emma regina" at the end of his passage dated 934[75]. The necrology of the abbey of Saint-Germain-des-Prâ©s records the death "IV Non Nov" of "domna Emma regina"[76].
m ([911/19]) RODOLPHE [Raoul] Comte de Bourgogne, son of RICHARD ·Äúle Justicier·Äù Duke of Burgundy & his wife Adâ©lais d·ÄôAuxerre [Welf] (-Auxerre, Yonne 15/16 Jan 936, bur Abbaye de Sainte-Colombe de Sens).
He succeeded his father in 921 as Duke of Burgundy. He was elected as RAOUL King of France in 13 Jul 923 at Soissons to succeed his father-in-law, consecrated by Gautier Archbishop of Sens at the Abbey of Saint-Mâ©dard de Soissons.
King Robert I & his second wife had one child:
3. HUGUES ([898]-Dourdan, Essonne 16 Jun 956, bur â©glise de l'Abbaye royale de Saint-Denis). He was installed as HUGUES "le Grand" Duc des Francs in 936.
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