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  • Alternatieve naam: Lambert d'Autun Count of Chalons
  • Hij is geboren rond 924Autun
    Rhone-Alpes, France.
  • Gedoopt (op 8-jarige leeftijd of later) door het priesterschapsgezag van de LDS-kerk.
  • Alternatief: Gedoopt (op 8-jarige leeftijd of later) door het priesterschapsgezag van de LDS-kerk.
  • Beroepen:
    • Comte, d'Autun, 1ʻ, Comte hériditaire, de Chalon, 968, de Beaune.
    • Conde de Chalon.
    • Conde de Chalon, Comte, d'Autun, 1ʻ, Comte hériditaire, de Chalon, 968, de Beaune, M:BEF 926.
  • Hij is overleden op 22 februari 978Châlons-sur-Saône
    Saône-et-Loire France.
  • Een kind van Robert Vicomte d'Autun en Ingeltrude de Bourgogne
  • Deze gegevens zijn voor het laatst bijgewerkt op 16 oktober 2020.

Gezin van Lambert de Chalon, De Dijon Comte de Chalon

Hij heeft/had een relatie met Adélaïde N.N..


Kind(eren):

  1. Mahaut de Châlon  ± 968-1016 
  2. Hugues I d'Autun  972-1039 
  3. Gerberge de Châlon  ± 940-991 


Notities over Lambert de Chalon, De Dijon Comte de Chalon

Name Prefix: Count Name Suffix: Of Chalons
Still Living.
Name Prefix: Count Name Suffix: Of Chalons
Still Living.
[3311] WSHNGT.ASC file (Geo Washington Ahnentafel) # 139491482 = 34984090
[3308] WSHNGT.ASC file (Geo Washington Ahnentafel) # 139491466 = 7368354

EDWARD3.TXT Letald MACON (930-)
Rootsweb Feldman
URL: http://worldconnect.genealogy.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=:3044567&id=I18104
# ID: I18104
# Name: Lambert DE CHALONS 1 2 3 4
# Sex: M
# Birth: 924 in Autun, Seine-et-Loire, France 1 2 3 4
# Death: 22 FEB 977/78 1 2 3 4
# Ancestral File #: 9GCG-56
# Change Date: 15 JAN 2004 4
# Change Date: 25 NOV 2001 2 3 4
# Note:

[Joanne's Tree.1 GED.GED]

2 SOUR S332582
3 DATA
4 TEXT Date of Import: 14 Jan 2004

[daveanthes.FTW]

OCCU Vicount de Dijon ...
SOUR http://misc.traveller.com/ge nealogy/gedhtml/kmilburn/d0001/g0000085.htm#I2711;
www.rootsweb.com/gumby says ABT 924;
SOUR COMYNI.GED (Compuserve)
Royalty for Commoners, Roderick W. Stuart, p. 190,244 says 22 Feb 979
VERGY.TXT (Compuserve)
Vic. de Autun, Count de Chalone - COMYNI.GED(Compuserve)&VERGY.TXT(Compuserve)
; Count of Chalons-sur-Saone - Royalty for Commoners, Roderick W. Stuart,
p. 190; Count of Autun - p. 244; Count of Chalons -HAWKINS.GED

#Générale# Comte d'Autun.
Décès : ou 22 Février 968 (dans ce cas, il ne peut être l'époux d'Adélaïde de Châlon, mais celui de sa filleAdélaïs de Vermand ois).[Spare.FTW]

Father: Robert DE CHALON b: ABT 905
Mother: Ingeltrude b: 910

Marriage 1 Adelaide Adelais DE BOURGOGNE b: 914 in Bourgogne Neustria

* Married: 968 in France 1 2 3 4

Children

1. Has Children Maud Mathilda DE CHALONS b: ABT 946 in Chalons, Seine-et-Loire, France
2. Has Children Elizabeth DE CHALONS b: ABT 958 in Autun, Seine-et-Loire, France
3. Has Children Hugues Ier D'AUTUN b: 972

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I at one time had Lambert's wife as Adelaide de Vermandois, wife ofGeoffrey Grisognell Comte d'Anjou, but have changed Lamber's wife toAdelaide of Burgundy. There is some doubt as to the identity of thevarious Adelaides married to either Geoffrey or Lambert.
#Générale##Générale#Profession : Comte d'Autun.
Décès : ou 22 Février 968 (dans ce cas, il ne peut êtrel'époux d'Adélaïde deChâlon, mais celui de sa filleAdélaïs de Vermandois).

#Générale#2ʻ mari d'Alix de Bourgogne, de Dijon, dit d'Autun
s:Auréjac ; hg90.358

note couple : #Générale#s:ds03.49 ; ds03.02.189N ; ds03.433
{geni:about_me} Lambert of Chalon ( 930 to 27 February 978) was Count of Chalon ( 956-978 ) and Autun.

Biography [edit code]

Lambert was born in 930. Son of Viscount Robert de Dijon and Ingeltrude ; brother Robert , Viscount de Chalon .

To 968 , he married the Countess Adelaide (or ADELAIS ) Chalon ( v928 - v987 ) (called Werra , daughter of Count Gilbert de Chalon and Ermengarde and widow of Count Robert I of Meaux ) with whom he has children :
* Gerberge Chalon , married King Aubert I of Italy ( daughter of Count Amédée Oscheret ), then married Henry I Duke of Burgundy.
* Hugh I of Autun (972-1039) ( bishop of Auxerre and Count of Chalon )
* Elizabeth Chalon (970-1014)
* Aelis , married Count Guy I of Mâcon .
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He disappeared on February 27 978. His son Hugues de Chalon succeed as Earl of Autun and Chalon Geoffrey Grisegonelle I married a second time in Adelaide (or ADELAIS ) Chalon his widow.

See also [edit code]

County Chalon - List of Counts of Chalon - History of Burgundy

External links [edit code]
* freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com
* gilles.maillet.free.fr / history / famille_bourgogne / comte_chalon.htm

preceded by
* Lambert of Chalon
*

Followed by
* Gilbert de Chalon
* Count of Chalon
* Hugues de Chalon

http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lambert_de_Chalon

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=Lambert d'Autun, Comte de Chalon=

According to French wikipedia (http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liste_des_comtes_de_Chalon), Lambert acquired the Comte de Chalon title through his marriage to Adélaïde de Bourgogne and not by direct inheritance:

Lambert de Chalon (v 930)-(† 27 février 978), comte de Chalon (sans dates) et comte d'Autun (sans dates) - Fils de Robert, vicomte d'Autunois et de Ingeltrude1. Marié v. 968 avec Adélaïde de Bourgogne (v 928 - v 987) qui, pour compliquer les choses, fut comtesse de Chalon et de Beaune par un premier mariage (v 945 - 967) avec Robert Ier de Vermandois (v 933 - 967) comte de Chalon et de Beaune2.

1 E. Petit, Histoire des ducs de Bourgogne de la race capétienne, T. I, p. 135.
2 le titre de comte de Chalon semble avoir temporairement survécu avec leurs deux fils

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Please see extensive article about Lambert by Stewart Baldwin at https://fasg.org/projects/henryproject/data/lambe000.htm

'''Lambert, Count of Chalon''', before 960-prob. 978.

The son of viscount Robert of Dijon and his wife Ingeltrude, Lambert was the first of his family to become count of Chalon ["... nobilissimus strenuissimusque Lambertus, filius Rotberti vicecomitis, Ingeltrude matre ortus, obtinuit comitatum Cabilonensem primus, assentante rege primoribusque Francie, ..." Cart. Paray-le-Monial, 2 (#2)]. He appears as count in June 960, when he gave consent to a charter of Frotgaire, bishop of Chalon ["S. Frotgarii episcopi et Rotberti comitis et uxore sua Ingeltrudis. S. Lamberti, comitis, qui consensit." Cart. S.-Marcel-lès-Chalon, 87-8 (#104)]. Lambert was still alive in 977, when the abbey of Paray-le-Monial was consecrated in his presence [Cart. Paray-le-Monail 2-3 (#2)]. Controversy in the dating of certain charters makes it uncertain how long after that he was alive (click link to see additional information: https://fasg.org/projects/henryproject/data/lambe000.htm).

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Charles Cawley's Medieval Lands Database (http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/BURGUNDIAN NOBILITY.htm):

Son of '''Robert (Vicomte d'Autun, Vicomte de Dijon) and Ingletrude'''.

'''LAMBERT''' (-22 Feb 979). "Lanbertus consanguineus meus" was named by Letald Comte de Mâcon in a charter dated 944[584], although any relationship between the early comtes de Chalon and the comtes de Mâcon has not been established. "Lanberti filii eorum…" subscribed the charter dated Dec 958 under which "Rotbertus…vicecomes et coniunx mea Ingeltrudis" donated property to Saint-Benoît-sur-Loire[585].

[m firstly ---. There is no evidence that Comte Lambert had a first wife before he married Adelais. However, if Gerberge was Lambert's daughter (which is far from certain, as explained below), it is extremely unlikely from a chronological point of view that her mother could have been Adelais.]

m [secondly] as her first husband, ADELAIS, daughter of --- (-after 18 Oct 984). "Lanbertus comes [et]…Adeleydis uxor mea" made a joint donation of "capellam beati Martini in villa Vigoseto" to Cluny by charter dated 978[586]. If Adelais was the mother of all of Comte Lambert's children, she could not have been born later than [930/32]. This is early for her also to have given birth to her son by her second marriage after 978. The date would of course be later if Adelaide was Comte Lambert's second wife, as suggested above. The origin of Adelais has been the subject of much speculation. Settipani has suggested[587] that she was the daughter of Hugues Comte en Bourgogne and his wife Willa von Thurgau. Chaume suggested[588] that Adelais was the daughter or granddaughter of Charles Constantin Comte de Vienne. Bouchard sets out several different theories concerning Adelais's origin, with the aim mainly of explaining Lambert's accession to Chalon by inheritance through his wife. However, none appears to be based on any primary documentation and Bouchard concludes that she prefers "to leave Adelais's origins unknown"[589]. An earlier theory was that Adelais was the sister of "Wera" Ctss de Meaux[590], which would mean that she was Adelais, daughter of Giselbert Duke of Burgundy & his wife Ermengardis [de Dijon]. Duchesne[591] suggested that she was the daughter of Robert Comte de Meaux et de Troyes, although this would mean that the two wives of Geoffroy I Comte d'Anjou were sisters, no mention of which has so far been found in contemporary sources. Another suggestion is that Adelais Ctss de Chalon was the same person as Wera-Adelais Ctss de Meaux. However, this is even more unlikely from a chronological perspective considering the estimated birth date of Wera-Adelais and the fact that Adelais de Chalon gave birth to at least one child by her second husband, Geoffroy Comte d'Anjou, after her marriage in 979. It would also mean that Comte Geoffroy married, as his second wife, his first wife's mother which is unlikely. In 1619, Duchesne[592] suggested that Adelais was the sister of Guillaume I Comte d'Arles. Adelais married secondly (2 or 9 Mar 979) as his second wife, Geoffroi I "Grisegonelle" Comte d'Anjou, who acted as Comte de Chalon until his death in 987. Comte Lambert & his [first] wife had [one possible child]:

a) [GERBERGE ([945]-11 Dec [987/991]). ...Considerable doubt therefore appears to subsist concerning this origin of Gerberge, although no alternative can so far be proposed ... m firstly (before [960/62]) ADALBERTO II King of Italy, son of BERENGARIO II King of Italy [Ivrea] & his wife Willa of Burgundy ([932/936]-Autun [972/975]). m secondly ([973]) [as his first wife,] HENRI Duke of Burgundy, son of HUGUES "le Grand" Duc des Francs & his third wife Hedwig of Germany ([948]-Château de Pouilly-sur-Saône 15 Oct 1002). ...

Comte Lambert & his [second] wife had [three] children:

b) HUGUES de Chalon (-1039). ... It is likely that Hugues was a minor at his father's death in light of his mother's rapid remarriage and his stepfather's assumption of the title Comte de Chalon in his place. He succeeded his stepfather in 987 as Comte de Chalon . Bishop of Auxerre 999....

c) MATHILDE de Chalon (-before 1019). ... m as his second wife, GEOFFROY I Seigneur de Semur [en-Brionnais], son of JOCERAN de Semur & his wife Richoara ---.

d) [--- de Chalon (-before 1018). ...mother of Otto Comte de Mâcon m (before 999) GUY [I] Comte de Mâcon, son of OTHON [I] Guillaume Comte de Mâcon & his first wife Ermengarde de Roucy ([982]-[1004], bur Saint-Bénigne).]
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from "Our Folk" by Albert D Hart, Jr.

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