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Hij is getrouwd met Sarah Hirsch.

Zij zijn getrouwd.


Kind(eren):

  1. Hannah Whitlock  1613-1661 
  2. John Whitlock  1624-1659


Notities over John "John Whitlock (Jr.)" Whitlock II

==concerns== '''It is uncertain whether this John was the father of Hannah. Further research is warranted. '''This John appears to be either the same as https://www.geni.com/people/Thomas-Whitlock/6000000027046777833 or his twin brother. Further research is warranted. ==links== * FamilySearch AFN LVBT-0V === GEDCOM Source === Age: 72-73 === GEDCOM Source === MH:S3 Ancestry Family Trees Onl ine publication - Provo, UT, USA: Ancestry.com. Original data: Family Tree files submitted by Ancestry members. Ancestry Family Tree http://trees.ancestry.com/pt/AMTCitationRedir.aspx?tid=110860350 &pid=3146 -------------------- ==concerns== '''This Thomas appears to be either the same as https://www.geni.com/people/John-Whitlock-II/6000000001531365281 or his twin brother. Further research is warranted. -------------------- http://genforum.genealogy.com/hirsch/messages/367.html * Sarah Hirsch of Cholesbury, BKM ?1600's * Posted by: Peter Whitlock (ID *****1125) * Date: October 04, 2006 at 06:16:55 * For some years we have shown that John Whitlock who died in 1659 in CT could possibly have been married to Sarah Hirsch. There are now indications that the Baldwin and maybe Hirsch family came from Cholesbury in Buckinghamshire. Listed before is a an article '''from the December 2005 issue of the Whitlock Family Newsletter'''. If any knows of possible Hirsch/Whitlock connectionsin th e 1600's in Connecticut, I would be interested to hear from you. '''WHITLOCKS OF CHOLESBURY, BUCKINGHAMSHIRE''' * In her email of September 2, 2005, Janne Carter says: ** "David and I went toBuckin ghamshire Archives yesterday. It was not very fruitful, I'm afraid. This is what we have found absolute proof of, from the actual parish records. * A John Whitlock was born in Princes Risborough in 1 562. * A John Whitlock was born in Cholesbury in 1585 ** (probably his son, but no wife or mother's name available in either case) He is the one who died in CT. * A John Whitlock was born inCholesbu ry 1624 ** (probably son of the second John. He is probably the younger brother to Hannah and David.) * found no marriage registration for either John" * This information has the potentialof being the biggest break through we have had in years. ** If this information is the missing connection back to England for the Whitlocks of Connecticut (WHITLOCK09 chart) then '''the John Whitlock born in 1624 is more likely the John Whitlock who died in 1659''' as we know this John was quite young when he died and the John Whitlock born in 1585 would be too old. * This find has even more likely conne ctions to two other charts. ** We know '''Hannah Whitlock was married in 1636 to Joseph Baldwin''' (WHITLOCK31 chart) at High Wycombe, Buckinghamshire and *** therefore Hannah was likely from Buckin ghamshire and *** possibly a daughter of the John Whitlock born in 1585. *** Hannah and Joseph settled in Hadley, Massachusetts. I have other documents that indicate that Joseph Baldwin was born in Cholesbury which makes this connection even more likely. * Lastly there is the '''Rose Whitlock who married Abraham Parker in 1644 in Woburn, Massachusetts''' (WHITLOCK24 chart). ** A Rose Whitlock a nd a John Whitlock are shown together in Salem, Massachusetts in 1643 but not as husband and wife, and we have assumed that this John was the one who died in Connecticut in 1659. ** This puts John, H annah and Rose all in Massachusetts in the 1640's, all born between 1613 and 1624 and at least John and Rose being shown as having some connection to each other. * While I think the connection to John Whitlock of Princes Risborough is possible, I am leaving that aside for the time being. * If this speculation turns out to have substance, this would mean the descent could be as follows: ** F1) ''' John WHITLOCK''' *** '''b.'''1585 Cholesbury, Buckinghamshire, England *** -'''M'''- ?? ** G1) '''Hannah WHITLOCK''' *** '''b .'''1613? Cholesbury, Buckinghamshire, England? *** '''d.''' Feb.27,166 1 Milford, Connecticut, U.S.A. *** '''-M-''' Joseph BALDWIN b.1609 d.Nov.2,1684    (See WHITLOCK31 chart) Nov.10,1636 High Wycombe, Buckinghamshire, England ** G2) '''David WHITLOCK''' *** '''-M-' '' Ann (??)BIGGE Dec.29,1634 High Wycombe, Buckinghamshire, England ** G3) '''Rose WHITLOCK''' *** '''b.'''1623-25? d.Nov.30,1691 *** '''-M-'''Abraham PARKER b.1612? d.Aug.12,1685   (See WHITLOCK 24 chart) Nov.18,1644 Woburn, Massachusetts, U.S.A. ** G4) '''John WHITLOCK''' *** '''b.'''1624 Cholesbury, Buckinghamshire, England *** '''d.'''1659 Connecticut, U.S.A. *** '''-M-''' ?? d.1661? (P ossibly Sarah HIRSCH)       (See WHITLOCK09 chart) * I think this information from Cholesbury, Buckinghamshire is worth further research and hopefully Janne Carter will eventually be able to ac quire copies of the material she consulted. Buckinghamshire is not well documented in our files and this is likely why this connection has eluded us for all these years. Hopefully there will be land r ecords or Manorial files that can shed more light on this family. * It is interesting that Bulstrode Whitelocke's parents James Whitlock and Elizabeth Bulstrode were married in Beaconsfield, Buckingha mshire in 1602 (WHITLOCK02H chart). ** At least two of their children were born in the county, Mary in 1606 and Joan in 1609. ** In this case it was the Bulstrodes who werefrom Buckinghamshire, not the Whitlocks, who were from London by that time. ** James does not purchase Fawley Court in Buckinghamshire until 1617. ** There is nothing I have found that would hint at a connection between the se two families. * Our thanks to Janne Carter for sharing this find with us and I look forward to following this line of research as it progresses. I have noted this possible connection on the WHITLOC K09 chart with references on the WHITLOCK24 and WHITLOCK31 charts. I will be interested in comments from descendants of these families. SOURCE: X5670 Peter Whitlock Whitlock Family Association 47644 Forester Road RR#2 Sardis (Chilliwack) B.C. CANADA V2R 4M6 Tel:604/824-7450 Fax:604/824-4303 Email:(XXXXX@XXXX.XXX)-name.org Web site: http://whitlock.castlewebs.net/wfa/index.htm ********************** ****

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John Whitlock
1585-1658


Sarah Hirsch
1587-1661

John Whitlock
1624-1659

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