Genealogie Wylie » Ida de Oddingseles (± 1265-> ????)

Persoonlijke gegevens Ida de Oddingseles 

• Zij is geboren rond 1265 in Maxtoke Castle, Warwickshire, England.Bronnen 1, 2
• Zij is overleden na 1 maart 1321/1322 in England.Bronnen 1, 2
• Een kind van William de Odingsells en Ela FitzWalter
• Deze gegevens zijn voor het laatst bijgewerkt op 5 april 2023.

Gezin van Ida de Oddingseles

(1) Zij is getrouwd met Roger de Herdeburgh.

Zij zijn getrouwd te 1st husband.Bron 3

Kind(eren):

1. Ela de Herdeberg  ± 1286-> 1343 

(2) Zij is getrouwd met John 1st Baron de Clinton.

Zij zijn getrouwd rond 1290 te 2nd husband.Bronnen 1, 2, 3

Kind(eren):

1. John 2nd Baron de Clinton  ± 1300-???? 
2. William de Clinton  ± 1304-???? 

Notities over Ida de Oddingseles

Ida, daughter of Sir William de Odingsells of Maxstoke by Ela, daughterof Walter Fitz Robert. She was 1st daughter, b. c 1270, living 1321.[Ancestral Roots]

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He [John Clinton] married, probably about 1290, Ida, sister and coheir ofEdmund d'ODINGSELLS, 1st daughter of William d'ODINGSELLS, of Maxstoke,by Ela, daughter of Walter FITZ ROBERT, of Woodham Walter, with whom heacquired the Lordship and Castle of Maxstoke and other considerablepossessions. He died late in 1310. His widow accompanied the QueenConsort to France in 1312-13. She, who was born about 1270, was living 1March 1321/2. [Complete Peerage III:312-13, (transcribed by DaveUtzinger)]

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Douglas Richardson in a post to SGM, 27 Sep 2001, adds a first husbandfor Ida:

From: Douglas Richardson (royalancestry AT msn.com)
Subject: Ida de Odingsells's Herdeburgh and Clinton Marriages: FurtherEvidence
Newsgroups: soc.genealogy.medieval
Date: 2001-09-27 08:31:32 PST

Dear Newsgroup:

Two days ago I announced the discovery that Ida de Odingsells, adescendant of King Henry II, married (lst) Roger de Herdeburgh (died c.1284), by whom she had a daughter, Ela de Herdeburgh, who left manydescendants. Previously Ida was only known to have had a marriage about1290 to John de Clinton, 1st Lord Clinton (died c. 1310). Following mypost, Rosie Bevan kindly provided a citation which confirmed that Rogerde Herdeburgh's wife was in fact named Ida.

Since my first post, I've located an informative article on theHerdeburgh family which appeared in Norfolk Archaeology, 30 (1952):19-25. That article cites two documents, one dated 1284, the other 1286,which establish beyond doubt that Roger de Herdeburgh's wife was namedIda and that Ida, as Roger's widow, held the manor of Prilleston, Norfolk(a Herdeburgh manor) following his death. The article further statesthat Prilleston was eventually conveyed by Ida de Herdeburgh's heirs toher grandson, Walter de Hopton, Knt. This confirms that that Prillestonstayed in the family past Ida's death about 1328.

As for other evidence that widow Ida de Herdeburgh married John deClinton, I found elsewhere that Prilleston, Norfolk was held in 1316 by"Idonia de Clynton" [Reference: Feudal Aids, 6 (1920): 478]. Idonia deClynton can be none other than Ida de Clinton, then a widow for thesecond time.

Best always,
Douglas Richardson, Salt Lake City, Utah

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