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• Roepnaam Maud (Matilda\Mahaut) de.
• Zij is geboren rond 0969 in Chalon-sur-Saone, Saone-et-Loire, Bourgogne, France.
• Zij is overleden tussen 1016 en 1019.Bron 1
• Een kind van Lambert d' Autun en Adelaide of Burgundy
• Deze gegevens zijn voor het laatst bijgewerkt op 8 februari 2023.

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(1) Zij is getrouwd met Geoffrey II Seigneur de Semur.

Zij zijn getrouwd te 1st husband 1st wife -divorced.Bron 2

Kind(eren):

1. Erembourg of Semur  ± 987-???? 
2. Thibaut Comte de Chalon  ± 989-± 1065 
3. Dalmas I Comte de Semur  ± 991-1032 
4. Erembourg of Semur  ± 987-???? 
5. Herve I Seigneur de Donzy  ± 1005-1055 

(2) Zij is getrouwd met Henry Count de Nevers.

Zij zijn getrouwd te 1st husband 1st wife.Bron 2

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Maud/Matilda definitely married Geoffrey of Semur, but the well-respectedGerman source ES, in one of its conflicting pedigrees, has her alsomarrying Henry, Duke of Burgundy, and having a daughter Aremburga, whowas wife of Dalmas I of Semur. This is probably not true, and ES hasbeen shown to be inconsistent and erroneous in giving the spouse(s) ofHenry. The spouse of Henry was a widow of Adalbert I King of Italy, andthere is still a lot of debate concerning who her father (and mother)were.

The following is excerpted from a post to SGM, 16 May 1997, by JimStevens, referring to an earlier post by Mat on 29 Apr 1997:

Matman ((XXXXX@XXXX.XXX)) posted to
soc.genealogy.medieval on 29 Apr 1997:
Subject: Re: Untangling the Burgundy web

"For English readers, the Bouchard article (p261ff) is essential tounderstanding this confusion in ES. French historians etc have peddledvarious theories: the ES has noted all of them, hence the internaldisagreement.

Some have favoured Leotald of Macon as the father of Gerberga, butBouchard follows the more reliable ones (F.Lot, R.Poupardin etc) inseeing her as the daughter of Lambert. She lists 3 children of Lambert:Gerberga (m. 1) Adalbert (2) Henry; Matilda (m. Geoffrey), Hugo ofChalon. The sources clearly state that Matilda and Hugo were children ofLambert, but they don't mention the father of Gerberga.

The main argument for Gerberga being the daughter of Leotald is, Ithink, the fact that her great grandson Otto of Macon (not Otto-William)calls Leotald his _atavus_. The strict classical meaning of this isgreat-great-great-grandad, which would imply, that Gerberga was Leotald'sgrandaughter. However most who favour Leotald's parentage, haveoverlooked this inconvenient detail, and suggested that the term herejust means distant ancestor.

The other evidence is the Life of Hugo of Chalon (d.1039) who says thathis sister married the duke of Burgundy. This has been seen as Gerbergawife of Henry (d.1002). Those who favour Leotald as her father, say thissister was Matilda, who they say married Henry before she marriedGeoffrey of Semur. Thus if one rejects Lambert as the father of Gerberga,you have to invent a new wife for Duke Henry. I think ES III, 433-34 hasthese two marriages. Somewhere else in ES, it even gives this supposedmarriage of Matilda and Henry a daughter, Aremburga, the wife of Dalmas Iof Semur.

I havn't gone into all the various arguments, or evidence: its best toread Bouchard yourself, and decide whether you agree with her. PersonallyI prefer her no-nonsense approach, and the works of other notablehistorians (eg W.Kienast Die Herzogtitel in Frankreich & Deutschland,1968) agree with her on the father of Gerberga being Lambert."

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