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Persoonlijke gegevens Ebles I Comte de Rheims & Roucy [8GGsCh-Wikibio] 

• Ook bekend als Ebles I Comte de /Rheims/, & Roucy.
• Hij is geboren na 0973 in Roucy, Aisne, Picardy, France.
• Hij is overleden op 11 mei 1033 in Reims, Marne, Champagne, France.Bron 4
• Hij is begraven in Archbishop of Rheims.Bron 4
• Een kind van Giselbert Comte de Roucy en Miss de Macon
• Deze gegevens zijn voor het laatst bijgewerkt op 21 augustus 2023.

Gezin van Ebles I Comte de Rheims & Roucy [8GGsCh-Wikibio]

Hij had een relatie met Beatrix of Hainault.

Kind(eren):

1. Aelis de Roucy  ± 1012-1063 
2. Alice (Adela) de Roucy  ± 1014-1062 

Notities over Ebles I Comte de Rheims & Roucy [8GGsCh-Wikibio]

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Possible family origins
Marriage and descendants
Notes and references

Ebles I of Roucy
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Ebles I
Count of Roucy
Reignc. 1000 – 1033
PredecessorGilbert of Roucy
SuccessorHilduin IV of Montdidier
Died11 May 1033
FatherGilbert of Roucy (disputed)
Ebles I of Roucy (died 11 May 1033) was count of Roucy from 1000 to 1033 and archbishop of Reims[1] from 1021 to 1033.

Possible family origins
In 'Genealogiciæ Scriptoris Fusniacensis[2] he is referred as the brother of:

Eudes (Odo) Roucy, called "the Strong" († 27 August after 1021)[3], lord of Rumigny.
Liétaud (also Letard or Letald) de Roucy, Lord of Marle.[2][4] Liétaud's daughter Adèle de Marle married first Aubry, Viscount of Coucy, and second the scandalous Crusader Enguerrand I, Lord of Coucy, with whom she had issue.
Yvette (possibly either Judith or Dada) de Roucy[2] who married either Manasses II or Manasses III of Rethel.[5][6]
Although he is traditionally considered to have been the son of his predecessor, Giselbert, Count of Roucy and Reims and an unnamed daughter of William III "Towhead", Duke of Aquitaine, no contemporary document mentions a wife or children for Giselbert. Instead, a novel theory by Jean-Noël Mathieu[5] resolves some inconsistencies by placing Giselbert as his matrilineal great-uncle.

The new study, based on onomastic data, suggests that Ebles I was the son of Ebles de Poitiers (son of William IV, Duke of Aquitaine and Emma of Blois) and an unnamed daughter of Aubry II, Count of Mâcon and Ermentrude of Roucy, Giselbert of Roucy's sister.

Mathieu further notes that the conventional theory does not take into account that:

The first name Liétaud is traditionally associated with the Counts of Mâcon, but not with the Roucy family;
The first name Eudes is traditionally associated with the Robertians, the Herbertiens, or the House of Blois;[7]
The lands of Rumigny and Coucy had previously belonged to the Counts of Blois, but later passed to the Roucy line.
Marriage and descendants
Ebles married Beatrice of Hainaut,[8] the daughter of Reginar IV, Count of Mons and Hedwig of France (daughter of Hugh Capet). From this union he had:

1. Alix, who succeeded him, and was married to Hilduin IV of Montdidier, Count of Ramerupt and Roucy, by whom she was the mother of Ebles II of Roucy. Her daughter, Margaret de Roucy, married Hugh, Count of Clermont, and they were the parents of Adeliza, who married Gilbert Fitz Richard;
2. Hedwig, who inherited the lands of Rumigny after the death of her uncle, Eudes, and married Geoffrey IV, Lord of Florennes.
Around 1020, Ebles separated from his wife[5][9] and took holy orders, being therefore elected archbishop of Reims.[1] He also became count of Reims in 1023 and afterwards bound the county to the archdiocese. Beatrice then went on to marry Manasses de Ramerupt.

Notes and references
Chronica Albrici Monachi Trium Fontium’, ed. Paulus Scheffer-Boichorst, in Monumenta Germaniae Historica: Scriptorum, vol. 23 (Hanover, 1874), pp. 631-950
Genealogiciæ Scriptoris Fusniacensis names 'Lebaldus de Malla et…Iveta comitissa de Retest' as brother and sister of 'Ebalus de Roceio', this note also refers to a certain Mathilde, wife of Liéutad: 'Albericus de Cociaco…cum Adela uxore sua et matre eius Mathilde' who made a donation to the Abbey of Nogent-sous-Coucy (French Wikipedia) in 1059.
The obituary of Reims records his death in 'VI kal sep' (27 August), and identifies him as brother of Archbishop Ebles: "Odo fortis frater domini Ebali archiepiscopi".
Moret de la Fayole, P. (1675). Histoire Généalogique de la Maison de Roucy et de Roye. Paris: Coustelier, François. p. 17.
Mathieu, Jean-Nöel (2000). "La Succession au comté de Roucy aux environs de l'an mil". Onomastique et Parenté dans l'Occident Médiéval. Oxford: Linacre College, Unit for Prosopographical Research. Prosopographica et Genealogica / 3: 75–84. ISBN 1-900934-01-9.
Murray, Alan V. (2000). Settipani, Christian; Keats-Rohan, K.S.B. (eds.). The Crusader Kingdom of Jerusalem: A Dynastic History 1099-1125. Occasional Publication of the Linacre Unit for Prosopographical Research Vol. 4. Oxford: Linacre College. pp. 173–174. ISBN 1-900934-03-5.
There is indeed the marriage between William IV of Aquitaine and Emma de Blois, but this marriage happened one generation after the putative Roucy-Aquitaine marriage proposed by the conventional theory.
*Guenée, Bernard (1978). "Les généalogies entre l'histoire et la politique: la fierté d'être Capétien, en France, au Moyen Age". Annales. Histoire, Sciences Sociales (in French). 33e Année, No. 3 (May - Jun.): 472.
Adelaide of Aquitaine, wife of Hugh Capet and grandmother of Beatrice, was the daughter of William III of Aquitaine. It is assumed that this marriage was annulled due to the consanguinity between the spouses. Beatrice remarried Manasses of Montdidier, to whom she was also closely related.
Catholic Church titles
Preceded by
Arnulf
Archbishop of Reims
1021–1033Succeeded by
Guy of Roucy
Categories as livelinks at https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ebles_I_of_Roucy :
1033 deaths
Archbishops of Reims
11th-century archbishops
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