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Il avait une relation avec Oda (Chrodoare) aus Schwaben.
Enfant(s):
Margrave of Schelde[New Cunard.ged]
Margrave of Schelde
Basic Life Information
Arnoald, also called Arnoldus or Arnual (ca 560 - ca 611), was a Bishop of Metz between 601 and 609 or 611, the successor of Agilulf, and a Margrave of Schelde. He was the son of Ansbertus, a Senator, and wife Blithilde.
Marriage and Children
Married before 584 to Oda (?), born ca 564, they were the parents of:
Saint Itta, married to Pippin of Landen
Dode or Doda, also called Dode of Metz, Dode of Old Saxony or Doda the Saxon, who became a nun in 612 at Treves becoming called also Clothilde of Treves, born ca 584, married ca 596 to Arnulf of Metz
Father of St. Arnulf of Metz
It is a subject of much debate among genealogists whether or not Arnoald is the father of Arnulf bishop of Metz, who, according to Christian Settipani's early publications, is a perfect candidate. Settipani contradicts himself in newer publications, stating that Arnulf of Metz couldn't have been Arnoald's son given to no mention of the former having any royal blood. Further speculation indicate Arnulf's father could be a Bodegisel, based on documents from old Frankish legends. This statement is also uncertain. He states instead that Arnoald was Arnulf's father in law.
<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arnoald>
Basic Life Information
Arnoald, also called Arnoldus or Arnual (ca 560 - ca 611), was a Bishop of Metz between 601 and 609 or 611, the successor of Agilulf, and a Margrave of Schelde. He was the son of Ansbertus, a Senator, and wife Blithilde.
Marriage and Children
Married before 584 to Oda (?), born ca 564, they were the parents of:
Saint Itta, married to Pippin of Landen
Dode or Doda, also called Dode of Metz, Dode of Old Saxony or Doda the Saxon, who became a nun in 612 at Treves becoming called also Clothilde of Treves, born ca 584, married ca 596 to Arnulf of Metz
Father of St. Arnulf of Metz
It is a subject of much debate among genealogists whether or not Arnoald is the father of Arnulf bishop of Metz, who, according to Christian Settipani's early publications, is a perfect candidate. Settipani contradicts himself in newer publications, stating that Arnulf of Metz couldn't have been Arnoald's son given to no mention of the former having any royal blood. Further speculation indicate Arnulf's father could be a Bodegisel, based on documents from old Frankish legends. This statement is also uncertain. He states instead that Arnoald was Arnulf's father in law.
<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arnoald>
Basic Life Information
Arnoald, also called Arnoldus or Arnual (ca 560 - ca 611), was a Bishop of Metz between 601 and 609 or 611, the successor of Agilulf, and a Margrave of Schelde. He was the son of Ansbertus, a Senator, and wife Blithilde.
Marriage and Children
Married before 584 to Oda (?), born ca 564, they were the parents of:
Saint Itta, married to Pippin of Landen
Dode or Doda, also called Dode of Metz, Dode of Old Saxony or Doda the Saxon, who became a nun in 612 at Treves becoming called also Clothilde of Treves, born ca 584, married ca 596 to Arnulf of Metz
Father of St. Arnulf of Metz
It is a subject of much debate among genealogists whether or not Arnoald is the father of Arnulf bishop of Metz, who, according to Christian Settipani's early publications, is a perfect candidate. Settipani contradicts himself in newer publications, stating that Arnulf of Metz couldn't have been Arnoald's son given to no mention of the former having any royal blood. Further speculation indicate Arnulf's father could be a Bodegisel, based on documents from old Frankish legends. This statement is also uncertain. He states instead that Arnoald was Arnulf's father in law.
<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arnoald>
Arnoald
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Arnoald, also called Arnoldus or Arnual (ca 560 – ca 611), was a Bishop of Metz between 601 and 609 or 611), the successor of Agilulf, and a Margrave of Schelde. He was the son of Ansbertus, a Senator, and wife Blithilde. His son may have been Arnulf.
[edit] References
* Christian Settipani, Les Ancêtres de Charlemagne (France: Éditions Christian, 1989).
* Christian Settipani, Continuite Gentilice et Continuite Familiale Dans Les Familles Senatoriales Romaines A L'epoque Imperiale, Mythe et Realite, Addenda I - III (juillet 2000- octobre 2002) (n.p.: Prosopographica et Genealogica, 2002).
* Various Monumenta Germaniae Historica (Leipzig: Verlag Karl W. Hiersemann, 1923-1925).
!DESCENT: Frederick Lewis Weis and Walter Lee Sheppard, Jr., Ancestral Roots
of Certain American Colonists Who Came to America Before 1700, 7th ed., at 163
(1992). Line 190-9.
[Weis 163] son, it is said, of Ansbertus, the Senator (180-5).
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[2007] BJOHNSN.GED file Borogiso II
"Ancestral Roots of 60 Colonists..." Line 190, Bodogisel II, prob. Gov. of Aquitaine, murdered at Carthage returning from an Embassy to Constantinople d 588 Carthage
http://library.monterey.edu/merrill/family/dorsett6/d0072/I3849.html Arnoldus of SAXONY
Ancestral Roots p.163
IGI>Ausbert as father
Rootsweb Feldman
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# Name: Arnoldus Arnoul Bishop of METZ 1 1 2 3 4 5 6
# Sex: M
# Birth: ABT 562 in of Metz, Schelde, France 1 2 3 4 5 6
# Death: 601 in Carthage, North Africa 1 2 3 4 5 6
# Christening: Margrave of, Schelde 1 2 3 4 5 6
# Change Date: 15 JAN 2004 6
# Change Date: 25 DEC 2001 2 3 4 5 6
# IDNO: 264 2 3 4 5 6
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GIVN Arnoldus (Arnoul) Bishop_of
SURN Metz
NSFX [Marg./Schelde]
See Lines Of Adam, page ten.
Also known aks Arnoul, Margravefo the Schelde.
Royal Ancestors of Some LDS Families, by Michael L. Call, Chart 701and 804.
Ancestry and Progeny of Captain James Blount - Inmigrant. by RobertFfafman
p. E- 26.
OCCU Arnoul Von Metz ...
SOUR www.public.asu.edu/bgertz/family/d0000 says ABT 562, Saxony; www.rootsweb.com/
gumby says ABT 562, Old Saxony, Germany; www.teleport.com/ddonahue/donahue
says ABT 562;
SOUR www.public.asu.edu/bgertz/family/d0000 says 601; www.rootsweb.com/gumby says
601;COMYN4.TAF (Compuserve), p.11; www.teleport.com/ddonahue/donahue says 601;
misc.traveller.com/genealogy/gedhtml/kmilburn/d0001/g0000047.htm#I1578 say 601
Arnoul M' graf. Schelde - COMYN4.TAF (Compuserve), p. 11; Arnoul Eveque de
Metz, Mar. of Schelde - COMYNI.GED (Compuserve), #1632; Arnoldus, Bishop of
Metz - Royalty for Commoners, Roderick W. Stuart, p. 19; Bishop of Metz - http
://misc.traveller.com/genealogy/gedhtml/kmilburn/d0001/g0000051.htm#I1349
Several sources show him as father of Saint Arloph (d. 641) - NPH;
ARNOUL DE METZ, son of AUSBERT DE MOSELLE and BITHILDIS OF FRANCE: http://www.public.asu.edu/~bgertz/family/d0004/g0000072.htm#I2045 says he was son of AUSBERT (son of WAMBERT) and BERTHA OF KENT -
NPH
http://www.teleport.com/~ddonahue/donahue/d0004/s0000346.htm#I2230 says he was the son of AUSBERT (son of WAMBERT) and Bertha of Kent- NPH
GIVN Arnoldus Of
SURN SAXONY
AFN 8HR9-ZW
REPO @REPO1097@
TITL Ancestral File (R)
AUTH The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints
PUBL Copyright (c) 1987, June 1998, data as of 5 January 1998
ABBR Ancestral File (R)
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TYPE Book
AUTH Stuart, Roderick W.
PERI Royalty for Commoners
EDTN 3d
PUBL Genealogical Publishing co., Inc, Baltimore, MD (1998)
ISB 0-8063-1561-X
TEXT (260-46)
DATE 11 MAY 2000
OCCU Margrave of Schelde; Bishop of MetzArnoldus, Bishop of Metz, father of St. Modoald
DATE 24 MAY 1999
GIVN Arnoldus (Arnoul) Bishop_of
SURN Metz
NSFX [Marg./Schelde]
See Lines Of Adam, page ten.
Also known aks Arnoul, Margravefo the Schelde.
Royal Ancestors of Some LDS Families, by Michael L. Call, Chart 701and 804.
Ancestry and Progeny of Captain James Blount - Inmigrant. by RobertFfafman
p. E- 26.
OCCU Arnoul Von Metz ...
SOUR www.public.asu.edu/bgertz/family/d0000 says ABT 562, Saxony; www.rootsweb.com/
gumby says ABT 562, Old Saxony, Germany; www.teleport.com/ddonahue/donahue
says ABT 562;
SOUR www.public.asu.edu/bgertz/family/d0000 says 601; www.rootsweb.com/gumby says
601;COMYN4.TAF (Compuserve), p.11; www.teleport.com/ddonahue/donahue says 601;
misc.traveller.com/genealogy/gedhtml/kmilburn/d0001/g0000047.htm#I1578 say 601
Arnoul M' graf. Schelde - COMYN4.TAF (Compuserve), p. 11; Arnoul Eveque de
Metz, Mar. of Schelde - COMYNI.GED (Compuserve), #1632; Arnoldus, Bishop of
Metz - Royalty for Commoners, Roderick W. Stuart, p. 19; Bishop of Metz - http
://misc.traveller.com/genealogy/gedhtml/kmilburn/d0001/g0000051.htm#I1349
Several sources show him as father of Saint Arloph (d. 641) - NPH;
ARNOUL DE METZ, son of AUSBERT DE MOSELLE and BITHILDIS OF FRANCE: http://www.public.asu.edu/~bgertz/family/d0004/g0000072.htm#I2045 says he was son of AUSBERT (son of WAMBERT) and BERTHA OF KENT -
NPH
http://www.teleport.com/~ddonahue/donahue/d0004/s0000346.htm#I2230 says he was the son of AUSBERT (son of WAMBERT) and Bertha of Kent- NPH
Father: Ausbert Vanbertus Ansbertus of FRANCE b: 506 in France
Mother: Blithildis Princess of COLOGNE b: in Of, Paris, Seine, France
Marriage 1 Oda Swabian Lady De SAVOY b: ABT 562 in Of Saxony, Germany
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2. Has Children Itte Of METZ b: ABT 587 in Landen, Liege, Belgium
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Ahnentafel by Philippe Houdry, from various sources, ver. 3 (Aug. 31,
1994) posted by Tom Camfield]: Bishop of Metz 601-611.
Kilde: Wurts, John S., Magna Charta: The Pedigrees of the Barons,
Philadelphia, PA: Brookfield Publishing Co, 1942.
Kilde: parents: [Ref: Wurts p425] Kilde: names: [Ref: Wurts p425]
Kilde: date: [Ref: Wurts p425]
#Générale##Générale#Profession : Margrave
Evêque de Metz en 601
{geni:occupation} Bishop of Metz 601-611, Margrave of Schelde 562-601, Governor of Aquitaine, Senator of Rome
{geni:about_me} From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Arnoald, also called Arnoldus or Arnual (ca 560 – ca 611), was a Bishop of Metz between 601 and 609 or 611, the successor of Agilulf, and a Margrave of Schelde. He was the son of Ansbertus, a Senator, and wife Blithilde.
Married before 584 to Oda (?), born ca 564. Scholars looking to replace the traditions that would make Arnulf of Metz the son of Arnould have proposed alternative relationships between Arnoald and the Carolingians. Proposed solutions would make him father of one of the following:
* Saint Itta, married to Pippin of Landen
* Dode or Doda, who became a nun in 612 at Treves becoming called also Clothilde of Treves, born ca 584, married ca 596 to Arnulf of Metz
Father of St. Arnulf of Metz
It is a subject of much debate among genealogists whether or not Arnoald is the father of Arnulf bishop of Metz, who, according to Christian Settipani's early publications, is a perfect candidate. Settipani contradicts himself in newer publications, stating that Arnulf of Metz couldn't have been Arnoald's son given to no mention of the former having any royal blood. Further speculation indicate Arnulf's father could be a Bodegisel, based on documents from old Frankish legends. This statement is also uncertain. He states instead that Arnoald was Arnulf's father in law.
References and citations
* Christian Settipani, Les Ancêtres de Charlemagne (France: Éditions Christian, 1989).
* Christian Settipani, Continuite Gentilice et Continuite Familiale Dans Les Familles Senatoriales Romaines A L'epoque Imperiale, Mythe et Realite, Addenda I - III (juillet 2000- octobre 2002) (n.p.: Prosopographica et Genealogica, 2002).
* Various Monumenta Germaniae Historica (Leipzig: Verlag Karl W. Hiersemann, 1923-1925).
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Arnoald, also called Arnoldus or Arnual (ca 560 – ca 611), was a Bishop of Metz between 601 and 609 or 611, the successor of Agilulf, and a Margrave of Schelde. He was the son of Ansbertus, a Senator, and wife Blithilde.
Married before 584 to Oda (?), born ca 564, they were the parents of:
* Saint Itta, married to Pippin of Landen
* Dode or Doda, also called Dode of Metz, Dode of Old Saxony or Doda the Saxon, who became a nun in 612 at Treves becoming called also Clothilde of Treves, born ca 584, married ca 596 to Arnulf of Metz
Father of St. Arnulf of Metz
It is a subject of much debate among genealogists whether or not Arnoald is the father of Arnulf bishop of Metz, who, according to Christian Settipani's early publications, is a perfect candidate. Settipani contradicts himself in newer publications, stating that Arnulf of Metz couldn't have been Arnoald's son given to no mention of the former having any royal blood. Further speculation indicate Arnulf's father could be a Bodegisel, based on documents from old Frankish legends. This statement is also uncertain. He states instead that Arnoald was Arnulf's father in law.
References and citations
* Christian Settipani, Les Ancêtres de Charlemagne (France: Éditions Christian, 1989).
* Christian Settipani, Continuite Gentilice et Continuite Familiale Dans Les Familles Senatoriales Romaines A L'epoque Imperiale, Mythe et Realite, Addenda I - III (juillet 2000- octobre 2002) (n.p.: Prosopographica et Genealogica, 2002).
* Various Monumenta Germaniae Historica (Leipzig: Verlag Karl W. Hiersemann, 1923-1925).
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arnoald
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Died in Carthage.
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http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arnoul_de_Metz (zoon)
Diverses sources tardives, comme une hagiographie de Clou de Metz du viiie siècle ou une généalogie rédigée sous Charles le Chauve, indiquent que le père d'Arnoul (Arnulf) s'appelait Arnoald ou Ansoald et son père Ansbert.
Un ancien manuscrit, retrouvé dans l'abbaye de Longeville-lès-Metz indique ainsi que Ansbert aurait été envoyé par l'empereur Justinien comme ambassadeur auprès du roi Clotaire II et que là il y aurait épousé Blitilde, prétendue fille du roi mérovingien. De leur union naquirent quatre enfants dont l'ainé Arnoald était le père d'Arnoul. L'authenticité de ce mariage à fait l'objet d'intenses polémiques au xviie siècle mais il est aujourd'hui admis que ces récits sont apocryphes et ont été créés dans un but politique, pour affirmer la légitimité de la maison de Lorraine1.
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Arnoald, also called Arnoldus or Arnual (ca 560 – ca 611), was a Bishop of Metz between 601 and 609 or 611, the successor of Agilulf, and a Margrave of Schelde. He was the son of Ansbertus, a Senator, and wife Blithilde.
Married before 584 to Oda (?), born ca 564, they were the parents of:
* Saint Itta, married to Pippin of Landen
* Dode or Doda, also called Dode of Metz, Dode of Old Saxony or Doda the Saxon, who became a nun in 612 at Treves becoming called also Clothilde of Treves, born ca 584, married ca 596 to Arnulf of Metz
[edit] Father of St. Arnulf of Metz
It is a subject of much debate among genealogists whether or not Arnoald is the father of Arnulf bishop of Metz, who, according to Christian Settipani's early publications, is a perfect candidate. Settipani contradicts himself in newer publications, stating that Arnulf of Metz couldn't have been Arnoald's son given to no mention of the former having any royal blood. Further speculation indicate Arnulf's father could be a Bodegisel, based on documents from old Frankish legends. This statement is also uncertain. He states instead that Arnoald was Arnulf's father in law.
References and citations
* Christian Settipani, Les Ancêtres de Charlemagne (France: Éditions Christian, 1989).
* Christian Settipani, Continuite Gentilice et Continuite Familiale Dans Les Familles Senatoriales Romaines A L'epoque Imperiale, Mythe et Realite, Addenda I - III (juillet 2000- octobre 2002) (n.p.: Prosopographica et Genealogica, 2002).
* Various Monumenta Germaniae Historica (Leipzig: Verlag Karl W. Hiersemann, 1923-1925).
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Arnoald, also called Arnoldus or Arnual (ca 560 – ca 611), was a Bishop of Metz between 601 and 609 or 611, the successor of Agilulf, and a Margrave of Schelde. He was the son of Ansbertus, a Senator, and wife Blithilde.
Married before 584 to Oda (?), born ca 564, they were the parents of:
Saint Itta, married to Pippin of Landen
Dode or Doda, also called Dode of Metz, Dode of Old Saxony or Doda the Saxon, who became a nun in 612 at Treves becoming called also Clothilde of Treves, born ca 584, married ca 596 to Arnulf of Metz
[edit] Father of St. Arnulf of Metz
It is a subject of much debate among genealogists whether or not Arnoald is the father of Arnulf bishop of Metz, who, according to Christian Settipani's early publications, is a perfect candidate. Settipani contradicts himself in newer publications, stating that Arnulf of Metz couldn't have been Arnoald's son given to no mention of the former having any royal blood. Further speculation indicate Arnulf's father could be a Bodegisel, based on documents from old Frankish legends. This statement is also uncertain. He states instead that Arnoald was Arnulf's father in law.
[edit] References and citations
Christian Settipani, Les Ancêtres de Charlemagne (France: Éditions Christian, 1989).
Christian Settipani, Continuite Gentilice et Continuite Familiale Dans Les Familles Senatoriales Romaines A L'epoque Imperiale, Mythe et Realite, Addenda I - III (juillet 2000- octobre 2002) (n.p.: Prosopographica et Genealogica, 2002).
Various Monumenta Germaniae Historica (Leipzig: Verlag Karl W. Hiersemann, 1923-1925).
Retrieved from "http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arnoald"
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Wikipedia Entry on Arnoald (Retrieved 1-22-2009) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arnoald
Arnoald, also called Arnoldus or Arnual (ca 560 – ca 611), was a Bishop of Metz between 601 and 609 or 611, the successor of Agilulf, and a Margrave of Schelde. He was the son of Ansbertus, a Senator, and wife Blithilde.
Married before 584 to Oda (?), born ca 564, they were the parents of:
* Saint Itta, married to Pippin of Landen
* Dode or Doda, also called Dode of Metz, Dode of Old Saxony or Doda the Saxon, who became a nun in 612 at Treves becoming called also Clothilde of Treves, born ca 584, married ca 596 to Arnulf of Metz
Father of St. Arnulf of Metz
It is a subject of much debate among genealogists whether or not Arnoald is the father of Arnulf bishop of Metz, who, according to Christian Settipani's early publications, is a perfect candidate. Settipani contradicts himself in newer publications, stating that Arnulf of Metz couldn't have been Arnoald's son given to no mention of the former having any royal blood. Further speculation indicate Arnulf's father could be a Bodegisel, based on documents from old Frankish legends. This statement is also uncertain. He states instead that Arnoald was Arnulf's father in law.
References and citations
* Christian Settipani, Les Ancêtres de Charlemagne (France: Éditions Christian, 1989).
* Christian Settipani, Continuite Gentilice et Continuite Familiale Dans Les Familles Senatoriales Romaines A L'epoque Imperiale, Mythe et Realite, Addenda I - III (juillet 2000- octobre 2002) (n.p.: Prosopographica et Genealogica, 2002).
* Various Monumenta Germaniae Historica (Leipzig: Verlag Karl W. Hiersemann, 1923-1925).
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Arnoald, also called Arnoldus or Arnual (ca 560 – ca 611), was a Bishop of Metz between 601 and 609 or 611, the successor of Agilulf, and a Margrave of Schelde. He was the son of Ansbertus, a Senator, and wife Blithilde.
Married before 584 to Oda (?), born ca 564, they were the parents of:
Saint Itta, married to Pippin of Landen
Dode or Doda, also called Dode of Metz, Dode of Old Saxony or Doda the Saxon, who became a nun in 612 at Treves becoming called also Clothilde of Treves, born ca 584, married ca 596 to Arnulf of Metz
Father of St. Arnulf of Metz
It is a subject of much debate among genealogists whether or not Arnoald is the father of Arnulf bishop of Metz, who, according to Christian Settipani's early publications, is a perfect candidate. Settipani contradicts himself in newer publications, stating that Arnulf of Metz couldn't have been Arnoald's son given to no mention of the former having any royal blood. Further speculation indicate Arnulf's father could be a Bodegisel, based on documents from old Frankish legends. This statement is also uncertain. He states instead that Arnoald was Arnulf's father in law.
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Arnoald, also called Arnoldus or Arnual (ca 560 – ca 611), was a Bishop of Metz between 601 and 609 or 611, the successor of Agilulf, and a Margrave of Schelde. He was the son of Ansbertus, a Senator, and wife Blithilde.
Married before 584 to Oda (?), born ca 564, they were the parents of:
* Saint Itta, married to Pippin of Landen
* Dode or Doda, also called Dode of Metz, Dode of Old Saxony or Doda the Saxon, who became a nun in 612 at Treves becoming called also Clothilde of Treves, born ca 584, married ca 596 to Arnulf of Metz
[edit] Father of St. Arnulf of Metz
It is a subject of much debate among genealogists whether or not Arnoald is the father of Arnulf bishop of Metz, who, according to Christian Settipani's early publications, is a perfect candidate. Settipani contradicts himself in newer publications, stating that Arnulf of Metz couldn't have been Arnoald's son given to no mention of the former having any royal blood. Further speculation indicate Arnulf's father could be a Bodegisel, based on documents from old Frankish legends. This statement is also uncertain. He states instead that Arnoald was Arnulf's father in law.
References and citations
* Christian Settipani, Les Ancêtres de Charlemagne (France: Éditions Christian, 1989).
* Christian Settipani, Continuite Gentilice et Continuite Familiale Dans Les Familles Senatoriales Romaines A L'epoque Imperiale, Mythe et Realite, Addenda I - III (juillet 2000- octobre 2002) (n.p.: Prosopographica et Genealogica, 2002).
* Various Monumenta Germaniae Historica (Leipzig: Verlag Karl W. Hiersemann, 1923-1925).
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Arnoald, also called Arnoldus or Arnual (ca 560 – ca 611), was a Bishop of Metz between 601 and 609 or 611, the successor of Agilulf, and a Margrave of Schelde. He was the son of Ansbertus, a Senator, and wife Blithilde.
Married before 584 to Oda (?), born ca 564. Scholars looking to replace the traditions that would make Arnulf of Metz the son of Arnould have proposed alternative relationships between Arnoald and the Carolingians. Proposed solutions would make him father of one of the following:
Saint Itta, married to Pippin of Landen
Dode or Doda, who became a nun in 612 at Treves becoming called also Clothilde of Treves, born ca 584, married ca 596 to Arnulf of Metz
[edit] Father of St. Arnulf of Metz
It is a subject of much debate among genealogists whether or not Arnoald is the father of Arnulf bishop of Metz, who, according to Christian Settipani's early publications, is a perfect candidate. Settipani contradicts himself in newer publications, stating that Arnulf of Metz couldn't have been Arnoald's son given to no mention of the former having any royal blood. Further speculation indicate Arnulf's father could be a Bodegisel, based on documents from old Frankish legends. This statement is also uncertain. He states instead that Arnoald was Arnulf's father in law.
[edit] References and citations
Christian Settipani, Les Ancêtres de Charlemagne (France: Éditions Christian, 1989).
Christian Settipani, Continuite Gentilice et Continuite Familiale Dans Les Familles Senatoriales Romaines A L'epoque Imperiale, Mythe et Realite, Addenda I - III (juillet 2000- octobre 2002) (n.p.: Prosopographica et Genealogica, 2002).
Various Monumenta Germaniae Historica (Leipzig: Verlag Karl W. Hiersemann, 1923-1925).
Retrieved from "http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arnoald"
Categories: 560 births | 611 deaths | Bishops of Metz | French Roman Catholics | 7th-century bishops
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From the Wikipedia page on Arnoald:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arnoald
Arnoald, also called Arnoldus or Arnual (ca 560 – ca 611), was (the 25th) Bishop of Metz between 601/603 and 609/611, the successor of Agilulf, and a Margrave of Schelde. He was the son of Ansbertus, a Senator, and wife Blithilde. (As such, French Wikipedia lists his nationality as "Gallo-Roman". Feast day is April 17.)
Married before 584 to Oda (?), born ca 564. (French Wikipedia says: "Tradition attributes to him a wife named Oda, but this is the result of confusion from the middle ages. Two traditions about the father of St. Arnulf existed, one that suggests that St. Arnulf is a holy Bodogisel, with a wife named Oda. Aegidius Orval tried to reconcile the two traditions by making Arnoald and Bodogisel the same person." Therefore, French Wikipedia asserts that the wife's name is unknown.)
(French Wikipedia says: "Very little is known from contemporaraneous documents. He is cited in 616 in a testament of St. Bertrand, Bishop of Le Mans, who despised him and fails to mention his acting as bishop with his uncle Agilulf. Arnoald is said to have stolen property belonging to the church of Le Mans.")
(In 783, Paul Deacon writes in the Liber de Episcoporum Mettensium: "Agiulf is said to have a father from a noble family of senators and a mother who is the daughter of King Chlodoveus. After him came his nephew Arnoald. He was succeeded by Pappolus. Arnoald, from a very noble and powerful strain of the Franks, begot two sons in lawful matrimony: Anchises and Chlodoul.")
(A 12th century tradition has Arnoald as the founder of the Abbey of St. Arnulf von Merkingen. The lands which were the domain of the abbey were sold to him by King of Austrasia Theodobert II. This is currently an area of Saarbrucken called St. Arnual Markt.)
Scholars looking to replace the traditions that would make Arnulf of Metz the son of Arnould have proposed alternative relationships between Arnoald and the Carolingians.
(According to French Wikipedia: At the beginning of the 19th century, Claude Philippe de Viville proposed the dates of his term as bishop as 599-609. The analysis of charters, catalogs, and episcopal confrontations set within the historical constraints made by Jorg Jamut shows the bishop's term to be 603-611. This confirms the tradition that claims Arnoald was bishop for 8 years and 1 month. But the death of Agilulf, predecessor to Anoald, took place in 601.)
Proposed solutions would make him father of one of the following:
1. Saint Itta, married to Pippin of Landen
2. Dode or Doda, who became a nun in 612 at Treves/Trier becoming called also Clothilde of Treves, born ca 584, married ca 596 to Arnulf of Metz
Father of St. Arnulf of Metz
It is a subject of much debate among genealogists whether or not Arnoald is the father of Arnulf bishop of Metz, who, according to Christian Settipani's early publications, is a perfect candidate.
Settipani contradicts himself in newer publications, stating that Arnulf of Metz couldn't have been Arnoald's son given to no mention of the former having any royal blood. Further speculation indicate Arnulf's father could be a Bodegisel, based on documents from old Frankish legends. This statement is also uncertain. He states instead that Arnoald was Arnulf's father in law.
(French Wikipedia says: "The first mention of Arnoald's ancestry is given by Paul Deacon, who says he was the nephew of his predecessor Agilulf, making him the son of a daughter of Clovis. The pedigrees established by the diocese of Metz from 810, as listed in the Commemoratio genealogiae domni Karoli gloriossimi imperatoris gives him as the son of Ansbert and Bilichide, the latter a daughter of King Clotaire I, and adds that he is the father of St. Arnulf, ancestor of the Carolingians. Recent analysis of these traditions confirms the name of his parents and uncle, but rejects the relationship with King Clotaire I, correcting Clovis to Chloderic, and considers Arnoald not the father, but the stepfather of St. Arnaulf.)
References and citations
Christian Settipani, Les Ancêtres de Charlemagne (France: Éditions Christian, 1989).
Christian Settipani, Continuite Gentilice et Continuite Familiale Dans Les Familles Senatoriales Romaines A L'epoque Imperiale, Mythe et Realite, Addenda I - III (juillet 2000- octobre 2002) (n.p.: Prosopographica et Genealogica, 2002).
Various Monumenta Germaniae Historica (Leipzig: Verlag Karl W. Hiersemann, 1923-1925).
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Noteringar
Margrave of the Scheldt
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"m. Oda, a Swabian Lady. (He appears to have been Governor of Aquitaine, and was murdered at Carthage returning from an Embassy inConstantinople, 588". (Weis 190-7)
"ARNOALDUS, Markgrave of the Schelde, after his wif's death turnedmonk and went into the monastery of St. Martin in Villa Longa, whichhe himself had built, succeeded as Bishop of Mentz d. 601; m. Oda, aSwabian lady, and had Itta (Itha or Ida) who m. Pipinus de Landis, thefirst duke of Brabant, 615, Major Domus of Clothary II, d. 647. andalso St. ARNOLPH). Y.F.T. p.67.
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Arnoald, also called Arnoldus or Arnual, was a Bishop of Metz between 601 and 609 or 611, the successor of Agilulf, and a Margrave of Schelde. He was married before 584 to Ada of Swabia; they were supposedly the parents of Saint Itta (married to Pippin of Landen) and Dode (or Doda, also called Dode of Metz), which makes the entire scheme very confusing, to say the least, since this Doda would also be the wife of Ada's son by a different husband.
It is a subject of much debate among genealogists whether or not Arnoald is the father of Arnulf bishop of Metz, who, according to Christian Settipani's early publications, is a perfect candidate. Settipani contradicts himself in newer publications, stating that Arnulf of Metz couldn't have been Arnoald's son given to no mention of the former having any royal blood. Further speculation indicate Arnulf's father could be a Bodegisel, based on documents from old Frankish legends. This statement is also uncertain. He states instead that Arnoald was Arnulf's father in law.
See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arnoald for more information.
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(Baudgise). Name also seen as 'Arnoldus de Moselle'.
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arnoald
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Suffix : Biskop i Metz
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Arnoldus' ancestry is continued elsewhere on this tree.
Arnoldus' father was Arnoldus Metz and his mother was Berthe (Aldeberge Bilthildis) Kent. His paternal grandparents were Ansbertus Moselle and Blithilde Gaul; his maternal grandparents were Charibert I Paris and Ingoberge Paris. He had a sister named Dode Clothilde. He was the older of the two children.
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Arnoald, also called Arnoldus or Arnual (ca 560 – ca 611), was a Bishop of Metz between 601 and 609 or 611, the successor of Agilulf, and a Margrave of Schelde. He was the son of Ansbertus, a Senator, and wife Blithilde.
Married before 584 to Oda (?), born ca 564, they were the parents of:
▪ Saint Itta, married to Pippin of Landen
▪ Dode or Doda, also called Dode of Metz, Dode of Old Saxony or Doda the Saxon, who became a nun in 612 at Treves becoming called also Clothilde of Treves, born ca 584, married ca 596 to Arnulf of Metz
Father of St. Arnulf of Metz
It is a subject of much debate among genealogists whether or not Arnoald is the father of Arnulf bishop of Metz, who, according to Christian Settipani's early publications, is a perfect candidate. Settipani contradicts himself in newer publications, stating that Arnulf of Metz couldn't have been Arnoald's son given to no mention of the former having any royal blood. Further speculation indicate Arnulf's father could be a Bodegisel, based on documents from old Frankish legends. This statement is also uncertain. He states instead that Arnoald was Arnulf's father in law.
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http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~agrandchildsheritage/charlemagne1.html
'''Arnoldus, Bishop of Metz''',
* son of Ansbertus the Senator
* Father of Itta (<620-694)
1 NAME Arnoldus Mar /De Schelde/ 2 SOUR S033320 3 DATA 4 TEXT Date of Import: Jan 17, 2001 1 BIRT 2 DATE ABT. 540
[De La Pole.FTW]
Source: Kraentzler 1635. K: Arnoaldus, Bishop of Metz. Here we get into sticky territory. Kraentzler lists no sources for Arnoaldus, except a general bibliography in the front of his book. The same goes for Pfafman. I believe Collins' work, cited at times in this line, is often suspect, as is the Ancestral File, also cited at times.[De La Pole.FTW]
Sources: RC 171; Kraentzler 1635. RC: Bodegisel II "Dux." He appears to have been Governor of Aquitaine and was murdered at Carthage returning from an embassy at Constantinople in 588.
K: Bodegisel (Boggis I), a Frank.
AFN:8HR9-ZW
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Ref Number: 271
Father of St. Arnulf of Metz.
--Other Fields
Ref Number: 264
RESEARCH NOTES:
Bishop of Metz 601-611
RESEARCH NOTES:
Markgreve of Schelde
SOURCE NOTES:
Bu82; http://www.stirnet.com/HTML/genie/ancient/fh/franks2.htm
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Margrave och biskop av Metz
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OR "ARNOUL"; MARKGRAVE OF THE SCHELDE; AFTER WIFE'S DEATH, BECAME A MONK AND
WENT INTO THE MONASTERY OF ST. MARTIN IN VILLA LONGA, WHICH HE BUILT;
SUCCEEDED AS BISHOP OF METZ 601
Arnoald
http://trees.ancestry.com/rd?f=document&guid=25b0e46e-792e-4d3f-8283-b01fd9171895&tid=10145763&pid=-677186791
Arnoald
http://trees.ancestry.com/rd?f=document&guid=25b0e46e-792e-4d3f-8283-b01fd9171895&tid=10145763&pid=-677186791
SOURCE NOTES:
http://www.american-pictures.com/genealogy/persons/per03601.htm#0
He was named Bishop of Metz in 612.
He was named Bishop of Metz in 612.
Arnoald, also called Arnoldus or Arnual (ca 560 - ca 611), was a Bishop of Metz between 601 and 609 or 611, the successor of Agilulf, and a Margrave of Schelde. He was the son of Ansbertus, a Senator, and wife Blithilde.
Married before 584 to Oda (?), born ca 564, they were the parents of:
Saint Itta, married to Pippin of Landen
Dode or Doda, also called Dode of Metz, Dode of Old Saxony or Doda the Saxon, who became a nun in 612 at Treves becoming called also Clothilde of Treves, born ca 584, married ca 596 to Arnulf of Metz
Father of St. Arnulf of Metz
It is a subject of much debate among genealogists whether or not Arnoald is the father of Arnulf bishop of Metz, who, according to Christian Settipani's early publications, is a perfect candidate. Settipani contradicts himself in newer publications, stating that Arnulf of Metz couldn't have been Arnoald's son given to no mention of the former having any royal blood. Further speculation indicate Arnulf's father could be a Bodegisel, based on documents from old Frankish legends. This statement is also uncertain. He states instead that Arnoald was Arnulf's father in law.
References and citations
Christian Settipani, Les Ancêtres de Charlemagne (France: Éditions Christian, 1989).
Christian Settipani, Continuite Gentilice et Continuite Familiale Dans Les Familles Senatoriales Romaines A L'epoque Imperiale, Mythe et Realite, Addenda I - III (juillet 2000- octobre 2002) (n.p.: Prosopographica et Genealogica, 2002).
Various Monumenta Germaniae Historica (Leipzig: Verlag Karl W. Hiersemann, 1923-1925).
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Bio
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Arnoald
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