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Données personnelles Sir William ap Thomas Herbert = Herbert of Raglan Castle 

• Noms alternatifs: William I ap Thomas Herbert, William ap Thomas Herbert Sir of Raglan, William Thomas Sir of Ragland
• Il est né environ 1401 dans Ragland Castle, Monmouthshire, England.Les sources 1, 4, 12, 22

  Plas yn-y-berth-hir, Perthyre, Gwent

• Il a été baptisé dans Godwin, Abergavenny, Monmouthshire, Wales.Les sources 23, 24
• Professions:
• le 19 mai 1426 Sir Knight by Henry VI becoming known as Y marchog glas o Went, the.Les sources 14, 21

  Blue Knight of Gwent

• le 19 mai 1426 Sir Knight, for valour in wars in France Agincourt, Meurthe-et-Moselle, Lorraine, France.Les sources 21, 25
• (Alt. Burial) : Abergavenny, Monmouthshire, Wales.Les sources 12, 17, 21, 23, 24
• (Alt. Birth) environ 1380: Raglan Castle, Usk, Monmouthshire, Wales.Source 14
• (Alt. Birth) environ 1381: Raglan, Usk, Monmouthshire, Wales.Source 21
• (Alt. Birth) environ 1392: Raglan, Usk, Monmouthshire, Wales.Source 17
• (Alt. Birth) environ 1394: Raglan Castle, Usk, Monmouthshire, Wales.Les sources 18, 23, 24
• (Alt. Birth) environ 1401.Source 14
• (Alt. Death) en l'an 1446.Source 26
• Il est décédé en l'an 1446 dans Ragland Castle, Monmouthshire, England.Les sources 4, 7, 10, 12, 18, 27
• Il est enterré en l'an 1446 dans Abergavenny, Monmouthshire, Wales.Source 18

  Priory Church
  Priory Church

• Un enfant de Thomas ap Guillem (Gwyllyn) Herbert et Maud Morley
• Cette information a été mise à jour pour la dernière fois le 6 janvier 2023.

Famille de Sir William ap Thomas Herbert = Herbert of Raglan Castle

(1) Il est marié avec Gwladys verch Dafydd Sais.

Ils se sont mariés environ 1421 à Bredwardine, Herefordshire, England.Les sources 4, 23, 25

Enfant(s):

1. William Herbert  ± 1421-1469 
2. Elizabeth Herbert  ± 1427-???? 
3. Margred Herbert  ± 1415-???? 
4. Richard ap William Herbert  ± 1412-1469 

(2) Il est marié avec Cari Dhu.

Ils se sont mariés environ 1422.

Enfant(s):

1. John [illegitimate] Herbert  ± 1419-1469 

(3) Il est marié avec Elizabeth Bluet.

Ils se sont mariés apres 1405.Les sources 10, 12, 19

(4) Il est marié avec Margaret Abrahall.

Ils se sont mariés apres 1436.Source 12

Enfant(s):

1. Joan verch William  ± 1445-???? 

Notes par Sir William ap Thomas Herbert = Herbert of Raglan Castle

[Isiaha Lee.ged]
[Thomas C. Renehan.ged]
[Jane Williams Flank.FTW]

Other sources:

Welsh Genealogies AD 1400-1500, Vol 3 - pp 86, 104; Vol 4 - pg 202; Vol 6 pp 378, 422, 425, 439; Vol 8 pg 622 (FHL # 6025561)
Wales Visitation, Vol 1 - pp 292-3, 295, 312; Vol 2 - pg 165; Vol 5- pp 740, 785. 790 (FHL 942,9 D2fw)
Peerage (Burke), 1876 - pg 923 (FHL 942 D22bup)
Peerage (Burke), 1967 - pg 2039 (FHL 942 D22bup)
Baronagium Genealogicum, Vol 3 - pg 263 (FHL #0164680
Buckingham Co History, Vol 1 - pg 297 (FHL Q942.575 H2li)
Commoners, Vol 2 - pg 24; Vol 4 - pp 552fn, 730 (FHL 942 B2bc)
Miscellanea Genealogica 5s, Vol 5 - pg 188 (FHL 942 B2m)
Archaeologica Cambrensis 5s, Vol 1 - pg 288 (FHL 942.9 B2c)
Wallop Family, vol2 - pg 422 (FHL Q942.242 W159w)
Derbyshire Archaelogical Journal, Vol 31 - p 204 (FHL 942.51 B2a)
Monmouthshire History, Vol 1 - pp 47, 165, 185, 189, 285; Vol 2 - pg 12, Vol 4 - pg 300 (FHL #0990053-54)
Brecknockshire, Vol 2 - pg 394 (FHL Q942.965 H2j)
Carmarthenshire Sheriffs - pp 5, 34, 65 (FHL 942.98 D2b)
Dorset History Society Proceedings, Vol 66 - pg 83 (FHL 942.33 C4d)
Montgomeryshire Collections, Vol 2 - ped; Vol 3 pg 341; Vol 5 pg 159 (FHL 942.94 C4mp)
Robertson et Durdin -tb198 (FHL 929.242 R545r)
Monmouthshire Historical Tour - pp 148, 171 (FHL 942.43 H2cw)
Wales County Annmacls - pp 777 (FHL #0832242)
Herberts of Wilton - pg 2 (FHL 929.242 H414)
Morgan and Blamorgan Geneologies - pp 195, 280, 306 (FHL 942.97 D2c)
Earl of Pembroke - ped (FHL #104324)
Herbert Pedigrees - pg 4 (FHL #8026552 it3-4)
Dorst Antiquarian Club, Vol 66 - pg 83 (FHL 942.33 C4d)
Chepstow Catle Annals - pp 178, 270 (FHL 942.43/C1 D2m)
Herbert Correspondence - ped (FHL 942.9 B4b #21)

The house of Herbert is of somewhat dubious origin.  There are three accounts of its prime ancestor. 1) ghe race springs from Herbert, a natural sone of Henry I of England (this version has never met with acceptance), 2) gives Henry Fitz Herbert, Chamberlain to Henry I as prime ancestor, 3) henry Fitz Herbert, the Chamberlain was son of Herbert, son of Godwin, son of Elfryd, and that the said Herbert married the daughter of Godwin, Earl of Kent.

WALES AND ENGLISH POLITICS. Stability of government in England was in essence bad news for Wales, for in such a context the Welsh were frozen into their subordinate social position.  However the outbreak of civil war in England from 1455, and the fact that both Yorkist and Lancastrian factions in that civil war needed to optimise their support in Wales created a more favourable context for Welsh politics.  The objective of both Yorkists and Lancastrians was best achieved by nurturing Welsh leaders capable of mobilising the native Welsh to their respective cause.  That in turn implied that the Welsh - throughout the Wars of the Roses - were strongly placed to bargain for the amelioration of their social subjection.  The ending of the first stage of the civil war in a Yorkist victory in March 1461 highlighted that reality for Sir William Herbert was entrusted with the role of chief justice and chamberlain of South Wales as well as a host of other responsibilities and lands.  In 1463 his role was extended into North Wales with his appointment as chamberlain and chief justice of Meirioneth.  In February 1462 he also secured custody of the five year old Henry Tudor (son of Edmund Tudor) whom he had captured at Pembroke in 1461.  Henry was thus reared in the Welsh speaking Herbert household.  Herbert's responsibilities and powers were further enhanced during the late 1460's by which time he dominated Welsh politics.  His role ended abruptly in July 1469 when he was executed following defeat and capture by Lancastrian forces at the battle of Banbury.  See : Fig 48 Monument of Sir William Ap Thomas of Raglan p238.  Also : Fig 49 Seal of Sir William Herbert of Raglan p239.  In : M.P.Siddons - The Development of Welsh Heraldry Vol 1, National Library of Wales, Aberystwyth 1993.  THE STRUGGLE FOR WELSH BARDIC SUPPORT.  Both the Yorkist and Lancastrian camp were strongly represented in Wales.  Richard duke of York was a Marcher lord who secured more than half his annmacl income from Wales - ÂÐ3,430 from Wales as compared to c ÂÐ3,230 from England.  Edmund and Jasper Tudor were the sons of Owain Tudur and half brothers of Henry VI.  Edmund earl of Richmond was sent to Wales to strengthen the royal position, and his son Henry Tudor was born at Pembroke castle in January 1457, two months after his fathers death.  In that context Jasper Tudor as earl of Pembroke assumed the role vacated by his brother. ; Both sides recognised the importance of bardic support and thus patronised the bards.  Owain Tudur and his family had long been patrons - a tradition sustained by Jasper.  For the Yorkists William Herbert played a central role in securing bardic support.  As a consequence, during the Wars of the Roses the bards sought to promote Welsh interests through both of the contending factions. ; A WELSH UCHELWR WITHIN THE YORKIST CAMP.  William Herbert was the anglicised name of William Ap William a descendant of the leading Brecon family.  His grandfather was Dafydd Gam, an opponent of the Owain Glyn Dwr revolt who died at Agincourt in 1415.  Dafydd's son, William Ap Thomas purchased the Raglan estate in 1430.  William Herbert built on that foundation being admitted to the House of Lords and elevated to a Knight of the Garter. ; In 1466 the king created the lordship of Raglan, (the last Marcher lordship created in Wales) in appreciation of services rendered by Herbert. THE WAR OF THE ROSES AND BRYTHONIC TRADITION.  In keeping with Brythonic tradition a great feast was held at Raglan prior to departure for Banbury.  On the eve of battle, when disagreement between Herbert and the earl of Devon led to the withdrawal of the latter from the scene of battle - traditional visions of the Welsh inflicting defeat on their Saxon enemies were to strongly motivate the forces under Herbert.  Despite the fact that this was a battle in an 'English' civil war, the Welsh forces were motivated by long established Brythonic imagery.

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William Ap Thomas was the member of a minor Welsh gentry family and was responsible for beginning the construction of Raglan Castle as we recognize it today.  He obtained Raglan through his marriage to Elizabeth Bloet, widow of Sir James Berkeley shortly after 1406.  When Elizabeth died in 1420, Ap Thomas retained Raglan as a tenant of his step-son James, Lord Berkeley, and in 1425 Lord Berkeley agreed that he could continue to hold Raglan for the duration of his life.

William married for a second time, and chose another heiress, Gwladus.  She was the daughter of Sir Dafydd Gam and the widow of Sir Roger Vaughan.  Both these men had been part of the Welsh contingent that fought with King Henry V in France, and both were at the battle of Agincourt, where William Ap Thomas had also fought.  In 1426, Ap Thomas was knighted by Henry VI, becoming known to his compatriots as Y marchog glas o Went (the blue knight of Gwent).  Gradmaclly he began to establish himself as a person of consequence in south Wales.

As early as 1421 William held the important position of steward of the lordship of Abergavenny, and later became chief steward of the duke of York's estates in Wales, 1442-43.  Other positions held by Sir William included that of sheriff of Cardiganshire and Carmarthenshire, to which he was appointed in 1435, and his position as sheriff of Glamorgan followed in 1440.  Although he became one of the followers of Richard, duke of York, and a member of the duke's military council, Sir William's sphere of influence was largely confined to south Wales.

By 1432 William was in a position to purchase the manor of Raglan from the Berkeleys for about L667 and it was probably from this time that he began to build the castle as we know it.  His building programme eventually swept away most of the original structures.  The principal buildings surviving from this time are the Great Tower (left) a self-contained fortress in its own right, together with the south gate, both equipped with gunloops.  He also raised the hall, though later largely rebuilt, and part of the service range beyond.  Two sources indicate that William Ap Thomas was the builder of the keep. One of which is a contemporary poem praising Ap Thomas, mentioning the tower at Raglan which "stands above all other buildings."  There is also a reference to Sir William Thomas' tower from a family chronicle written by Sir Thomas Herbert of Tintern.

William Ap Thomas died in London in 1445, and his body was brought back to Wales to be buried in the Benedictine priory church at Abergavenny.  His wife Gwladus (the star of Abergavenny), as she was hailed by the poet Lewys Glyn Cothi, died in 1454.  William was succeeded by his eldest son, another William (d.1469) who took the surname Herbert.

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[Sharen Neal.ged]

ADDRESS: of Raglan Castle

Raglan, stately and handsome, is perhaps deceptive.  The might of its angular towers bears comparison with the great castles of Edward I, and suggests its origins lay in the bitter conflicts of the later 13th century.  In face it belongs mainly to the 15th century, and was as much a product of social aspiration as it was of military necessity.
It was begun by Sir William ap Thomas, a veteran of the French wars, who grew wealthy through exploiting his position as a local agent of the duke of York in south-east Wales.  About 1435 he began building the Great Tower, subsequently known as the Yellow Tower of Gwent, probably on the site of a much earlier Norman motte-and-bailey castle.  Surrounded by a water-filled moat, the unusual hexagonal plan of the tower, together with its elaborate drawbridge arrangements, are more easily paralleled in France than in Britain.  Within, there was a single large room to each floor, and the entire structure echoed the power and influence of its builder.
Following ap Thomas's death he was succeeded by his son William Herbert who continued to develop Raglan.  As a prominent Yorkist, he played a major role in securing the throne for Edward IV in 1461, and was raised to the peerage as Lord Herbert of Raglan.
Eventually rising to earl of Pembroke, his political career is reflected in his sumptuous building.  Under Herbert, Raglan became a veritable palace, unmatched in the 15th century southern March.  He added the great gatehouse, the Pitched Stone Court and also rebuilt the Fountain Court with a series of formal state apartments for himself and his household.  All of these repay careful examination. Notice, for example, the circular gun ports in the lower part of the gatehouse.  The great kitchen lay in the tower at the corner of the Pitched Stone Court, and its huge ovens and fire places remain.
Herbert was beheaded following his defeat at the battle of Edgecote in 1469, and there were no further major alterations to Raglan until the ownership of William Somerset, earl of Worcester (1548-89).  In the main, he was responsible for extensive changes to the hall, which remains the finest and most complete of all apartments in the castle. The huge fireplace survives, as does the tracery of the beautiful windows.  These were once filled with heraldic glass, and the roof was built of Irish oak.  Earl William also added the long gallery, without which no great Elizabethan house was complete.
At the outbreak of the Civil War, Raglan was garrisoned for the king. Henry, the new earl, and later marquess of Worcester, poured his fortune into the royal cause.  By 1646 the castle was under siege, one of the longest of the Civil War.  It was pounded by heavy artillery under the command of Sir Thomas Fairfax, and finally the elderly marquess was forced to surrender.
The fall of Raglan virtually marked the end of the Civil War, and Cromwell's demolition engineers were soon at work reducing the great walls.  However, the strength of the Great Tower was almost great enough to defy them.  Only after 'tedious battering the top thereof with pickaxes', did they eventually undermine the walls and two of its six sides were brought crashing down in a mass of falling masonry.

Source: www.castlewales.com/raglan.html

Sir William Thomas, called "Y Marchog Glas o Went" ("T he Blue Knight of Gwent"), of Raglan, Mon, the (feudal) Lordship of which he bought from 1st Lord (Baron) Berkeley; knighted 1415; married 1st his former employer Elizabeth (to whom he had been steward), daughter and heiress of Sir John Bluet, of Raglan, and widow of Sir James Berkeley (by whom she was mother of the 1st Lord (Baron) Berkeley; married 2nd, as her 2nd husband, Gwladus (died 1454), daughter of Dafydd Gam (killed at Agincourt) and widow of Sir Roger Vaughan, of Tretower (also killed at Agincourt), and died 1446.
[Burke's Peerage]

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Built the "Great Tower" of Raglan Castle.

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Copied from Herbert, George biography, 88.1911 encyclopedia.org/H/HERBERT_GEORGE.htm:

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Thomas's fifth son, William or Gwilim ap Thomas, who died abt 1446, was the first man of the family to make any figure in history.  This Gwilim ap Thomas was steward of the lordships of Usk and Caerleon under Richard, duke of York.  Legend makes him a knight on the field of Agincourt, but his knighthood belongs to the year 1426.  He appears to have married twice, his first wife being Elizabeth Bluet of Raglan, widow of Sir James Berkeley, and his second a daughter of David Gam, a valiant Welsh squire slain at Agincourt.  Royal favour enriched Sir William, and he was able to buy Raglan Castle from the Lord Berkeley, his first wifes son, the deed, which remains among the Beaufort muniments, refuting the pedigree-makers statement that  he inherited the castle as heir of his mother Maude daughter of Sir John Morley.

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Note: Apparently there are two different stories about how William Herbert ended up with Raglan Castle.

pg 271, " A Genealogical History of the Dormant, Abeyant, Forfeited and Extinct Peerages of the British Empire" by Sir Bernard Burke, published 1883

pg 164, "Ancestral Roots of Sixty Colonists etc"  by Frederick Lewis Weiss, 6th Edition

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CONC Biography, George Smith (Oxford Press, Orignially published 1885-90),
CONC IX:278.
CONC Biography, George Smith (Oxford Press, Orignially published 1885-90),
CONC IX:278.

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