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Persoonlijke gegevens John de Warenne 7th Earl of Surrey & Sussex
- Hij is geboren rond 30 juni 1286 in England.
- Hij is overleden rond juni 1347 in Conisbrough, Yorkshire, England.
- Hij is begraven in South Downs National Park, Lewes, East Sussex, England.
- Een kind van William de Warenne en Joan de Vere
- Deze gegevens zijn voor het laatst bijgewerkt op 14 januari 2022.
Gezin van John de Warenne 7th Earl of Surrey & Sussex
(1) Hij is getrouwd met Maud de Nerford.
Zij zijn getrouwd
Kind(eren):
- Het echtpaar heeft gemeenschappelijke voorouders.
- Het echtpaar heeft gemeenschappelijke voorouders.
(2) Hij is getrouwd met Isabella de Holland.
Zij zijn getrouwd
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John de Warenne, 7th Earl of Surrey & Sussex
Gender:
Male
Birth:
circa June 30, 1286
England
Death:
June 1347‰ (56-65)
Conisbrough, Yorkshire, England
Place of Burial:
South Downs National Park, Lewes, East Sussex, United Kingdom
Immediate Family:
Son of‰ Sir William de Warenne‰ and‰ Joan de Vere
Husband of‰ Joan of Bar, Countess of Surrey
Partner of‰ Maud de Nerford‰ and‰ Isabella de Holland
Father of‰ John de Warrene;‰ Sir William de Warenne;‰ Joan de Basing;‰ Katerine Heveningham;‰ Isabel de Warenne;‰ Thomas de Warenne;‰ Sir Edward de Warren, of Poynton;‰ Robert de Holland‰ and‰ Otes de Holland‰ « less
Brother of‰ Alice de Warenne, Countess of Arundel
"John de Warenne (30 June 1286 ဓ June 1347), 7th Earl of Surrey or Warenne, was the last Warenne earl of Surrey." Summary of John's proven illegitimate children, who are named in his will, or otherwise accounted for in other historical documents of the time. The will in its entirety can be found here:‰ http://books.google.com/books?id=c_TCZG2oqdkC&printsec=frontcover&dq=testamenta+eboracensia&hl=en&ei=x4rFTN-KMcaMnQfW0K3wCQ&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=1&ved=0CCkQ6AEwAA#v=onepage&q&f=false‰ Page 41
He was the son of William de Warenne, the only son of John de Warenne, 6th Earl of Surrey. His mother was Joan, daughter of Robert de Vere, 5th Earl of Oxford.
Married Joan (Jeanne) of Bar, daughter of count Henry III of Bar and Eleanor of England.
John had no legitimate children, but many illegitimate children, who were included in his will. They are listed below.
Had at least 3 sons with mistress Maud Nerford. Another mistress was Isabel Holland (sister of Thomas Holland, Earl of Kent). There are no documented children of John and Isabel Holland.
His heir was his sister Alice's son Richard 'Copped Hat', earl of Arundel, while his Yorkshire lands passed to his godson, Edward III's son, Edmund of Langley.
The followinglist of John's children is excerpted from the blog of historian Kathryn Warner, who holds an MA with Distinction in Medieval History and Literature. Her blog may be found at‰ http://edwardthesecond.blogspot.com/2009/09/illegitimate-children-of-john-de.html:
John left bequests to three daughters in his will. I don't know the identity of their mother(s):
-‰ Joan de Basing‰ ('Johanne de Basyngg' in the original spelling) who received a cup of plain silver from her father. Judging by her last name, she was already married. Joan was the name of John's mother, which implies Joan de Basing was his eldest daughter, as does the fact that she was named first in the list of his daughters.
-‰ Katherine, who according to several genealogy sites - I don't know what primary source is the basis for this statement, and I can't confirm it - married Sir Robert Heveningham after her father's death. She certainly received a bequest of ten marks (six pounds, sixty-six pence) in John's will. ('Katerine' in the original, no surname given)
-‰ Isabel, a nun at Sempringham, who received twenty pounds (vynt l) from John. ('Isabell') [5]
John had six illegitimate sons that I've been able to find. Here's a list of them.
Ravlyn
John's most obscure son and only mentioned, that I've found, in a petition presented to parliament in 1334 by one Ralph le Botiller. This petition calls him Ravlyn fitz al Counte de Garrein, "Ravlyn, son of the earl of Warenne," and records le Botiller's complaint that John had sent Ravlyn and some members of his household to attack two of his (le Botiller's) manors in Cheshire and steal or destroy his possessions. Ravlyn is not mentioned either in his father's will of June 1347 or in a letter John sent to Edward III in April 1346 naming his other two secular sons, perhaps because he was dead by then. [6]
John‰ and‰ Thomas
By 1316, John de Warenne had two sons by Maud Nerford, and in August that year persuaded Edward II to accept them as his heirs: he surrendered his lands to Edward and received them back "with remainder to John de Warenna son of Matilda de Neirford and the heirs male of his body, and failing such issue to Thomas de Warenna, son of the said Matilda..." [7] John evidently was the elder of the two and presumably named after their father; Thomas may have been named after Thomas Nerford, one of Maud's brothers.
Confusingly, there are a few references at the beginning of the 1300s to John and William, sons of John, earl of Warenne, both of whom had been, according to letters of the pope, ordained priest while still under age. [8] As our Earl John was only born in 1286, these two must have been the illegitimate sons of his grandfather John de Warenne (1231-1304), the previous earl of Surrey and Warenne, and thus John's uncles. His sons John and Thomas had both joined the order of the Hospital of St John of Jerusalem by November 1345, and their mother Maud Nerford was dead by then. [9] Neither of them appeared in their father's will.
Edward
Almost certainly another son of Maud Nerford, as he owned lands in Norfolk which had previously belonged to her. John called him "Edward de Warenne, my son" - plain 'Edward', not 'Sir Edward' - in his 1347 will, and left him twenty pounds. Edward was also mentioned in a letter John wrote to Edward III in April 1346, saying that his sons Edward and William were ready to serve the king abroad. [10] He was presumably born after August 1316 as he was not mentioned in John's land settlements at that time, and before his father "ousted" Maud Nerford from his heart and company in or shortly before 1320. He may have been named in honour of Edward II, or possibly after his father's first cousin Edward Balliol, son of John Balliol, king of Scotland (himself probably named after Edward I). He is named as "Edward de Warenn, knight" in an entry on the Close Roll of 23 February 1349. [11]
Edward de Warenne married Cecily, daughter of Nicholas de Eton, and founded the Warren family of Poynton, Cheshire. His eldest son, named John after his father, was born in 1343 or 1344; he had other sons named Edward and William. Edward de Warenne had died by 1369, and his son John died in 1392. See this thread for more information.
Sir William‰ and‰ Prior William
John de Warenne had two sons called William, one a prior and the other a knight, by an unknown mother or mothers. William was the name of John's father, Sir William de Warenne, son of the earl of Surrey who died in 1304 and killed in a jousting tournament in 1286 when John was a baby, so it's not at all surprising that John would use the name for his sons. One of them, probably the knight, had been born by 24 August 1310, when John (then aged twenty-four) granted "his son William de Warenna and the heirs of his body" the manor of Beeston in Norfolk. Although John gave the manor of Beeston to Earl Thomas of Lancaster in 1318, Sir William de Warenne was holding it in January 1333. [12] It is strange, therefore, that William was not mentioned in John's land settlements of 1316, when John named his sons John and Thomas as his heirs. Perhaps this means that William was not Maud Nerford's son and she persuaded Earl John to make her own sons his heirs? Or perhaps John had envisaged a career in the Church for William, then changed his mind? I can only speculate. On the other hand, Sir William witnessed a grant of land from his father to his (Earl John's) lardener Henry de Kelsterne in January 1332 with Thomas Nerford, Maud Nerford's brother - which may imply a relationship between William and Nerford, or may only mean that John de Warenne held onto his connections to the Nerfords even after his relationship with Maud ended. [13]
John's other son William was prior of Horton in Kent and of Castle Acre in Norfolk, and was named in numerous papal letters, warrants, writs etc as the illegitimate son of John de Warenne. I don't know the identity of his mother, but according to a declaration of 1338 that he was a true-born Englishman and not a foreigner, he was born at his father's Yorkshire castle of Conisbrough. [14] In his will, John left "Master [daunz] William de Warenne, my son, a Bible which I had made in French." In October 1348 and again in February 1351, Edward III appointed several sergeants-at-arms to arrest William and a fellow monk of Castle Acre on the grounds that they "have spurned the habit of their order and are vagabonds in England in secular habit" who were "to be chastised according to the rule of their order." William was, according to a papal letter, still alive in early 1364. [15]
John's son William the knight seems to have been a great favourite of his father, judging by the number of things John bequeathed to "Sir William de Warenne, my son" in his will, which included 100 marks (sixty-six pounds), a silver-gilt helmet and coronet and all his armour for jousting. John also left a gold brooch to William's wife, and although his will didn't give her name, it appears in a papal grant of April 1344: Margaret. [16] Sir William was one of the three leaders of a company of archers and men-at-arms raised by his father in November 1339, and accompanied his (half-?) brother Edward de Warenne on campaign abroad in April 1346. [17] Like his (half-?) brothers Edward and William the prior, he was openly and frequently acknowledged as the earl of Surrey's illegitimate offspring and sometimes witnessed John's charters as "the grantor's son," and also received grants of his own from John on occasion. In June 1364, Edward III granted him an annuity of forty marks "for long service," and William was still active in November 1368, when he and other men were accused of hunting without permission in the lands of Hugh Hastings in Yorkshire. [18]
Sources
Wakeman and Watkins on John and Jeanne never obtaining a divorce:( only money for Jeanne's upkeep)‰ http://books.google.com/books?id=uXankJGjb6kC&pg=PA372&lpg=PA372&dq=prior+william+de+warenne+at+horton+in+kent&source=bl&ots=_dc-TSXfoh&sig=q0R6jBFPPGCdNo4OrmjArqIrkzU&hl=en&sa=X&ei=avyTUsbxM5DRqwGQ64DABg&ved=0CD0Q6AEwBA#v=onepage&q=prior%20william%20de%20warenne%20at%20horton%20in%20kent&f=false
1) F. Royston Fairbank, 'The Last Earl of Warenne and Surrey and the Distribution of his Possessions', Yorkshire Archaeological Journal, xix (1907), p. 264. 2) Calendar of Chancery Warrants 1244-1326, p. 296. 3) The National Archives SC 8/87/4348. 4) Fairbank, 'Last Earl', pp. 249-250. 5) John's will can be read online in English and the original French. 6) Rotuli Parliamentorum, vol. II, p. 88; TNA SC 8/156/7772. 7) Calendar of Patent Rolls 1313-1317, pp. 528-529; Chancery Warrants 1244-1326, pp. 576-578; TNA SC 8/280/13971. 8) For example, Calendar of Papal Letters 1305-1341, p. 11. 9) Cal Pat Rolls 1345-1348, p. 16. 10) Fairbank, 'Last Earl', p. 248. 11) Calendar of Close Rolls 1349-1354, p. 11. 12) Cal Pat Rolls 1307-1313, p. 330; Cal Pat Rolls 1330-1334, p. 404; Calendar of Fine Rolls 1337-1347, p. 52; TNA C 143/85/11. 13) Cal Pat Rolls 1340-1343, pp. 511-512. 14) Calendar of Inquisitions Miscellaneous 1308-1348, p. 397, and Cal Close Rolls 1339-1341, pp. 18, 82, say that William was born at Conisbrough Castle. See also Cal Papal Letters 1342-1362, pp. 12, 124, 139, TNA SC 8/247/12337. 15) Cal Pat Rolls 1348-1350, p. 244; Cal Pat Rolls 1350-1354, p. 78; Cal Papal Letters 1362-1404, p. 6. 16) Cal Papal Letters 1342-1362, p. 145. 17) Cal Close Rolls 1339-1341, p. 302. 18) Cal Pat Rolls 1338-1340, p. 411; Cal Pat Rolls 1343-1345, p. 570; Cal Pat Rolls 1361-1364, p. 511; Cal Pat Rolls 1367-1370, p. 200.
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Please note and be aware that he was the 7th and last Earl, despite what 2 of the links below say"
Links:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_de_Warenne,_7th_Earl_of_Surrey
http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GRid=51615273
http://histfam.familysearch.org/getperson.php?personID=I18276&tree=EuropeRoyalNobleHous
http://histfam.familysearch.org/getperson.php?personID=I5422&tree=Nixon
http://histfam.familysearch.org/getperson.php?personID=I14480&tree=PagetHeraldicBaronag
http://histfam.familysearch.org/getperson.php?personID=I198093&tree=Welsh
http://our-royal-titled-noble-and-commoner-ancestors.com/p358.htm#i10736
http://www.thepeerage.com/p10688.htm
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Wikipedia:
John de Warenne, 7th, and last, Earl of Surrey.
John de Warenne (30 June 1286 ·Äì June 1347), 7th Earl of Surrey & Sussex, or Warenne, Earl of Strathearn, was the last Warenne earl of Surrey.
He was the son of William de Warenne, the only son of John de Warenne, 6th Earl of Surrey. His mother was Joan, daughter of Robert de Vere, 5th Earl of Oxford. Warenne was only six months old when his father died, and was 8 years old when his mother died. He succeeded his grandfather as earl when he was 19.[1] He was one of the great nobles offended by the rise of Edward II's favorite Piers Gaveston, and helped secure Gaveston's 1308 banishment. The two were somewhat reconciled after Gaveston's return the next year, but in 1311 Warenne was one of the nobles who captured Gaveston. He was however unhappy about Gaveston's execution at the behest of the earl of Warwick, which pushed him back into the king's camp.[1]
The baronial opposition was led by the king's cousin Thomas, Earl of Lancaster, and he and Warenne became bitter enemies. Private war erupted between the two, and over the new few years Warenne lost a good part of his estates to Lancaster.[1]
Warenne was one of the four earls who captured the two Roger Mortimers, and in 1322 he was one of the nobles who condemned to death the earl of Lancaster.[1]
Warenne and his brother-in-law Edmund Fitzalan, 9th Earl of Arundel, were the last two earls to remain loyal to Edward II after the rise to power of Queen Isabella and Roger Mortimer. After Arundel's execution he went over to the queen's side, urging Edward II's abdication in 1327.[1]
He was the guardian of his cousin Edward Balliol, and after Balliol lay claim to the Scottish throne, accompanied him on his campaign in Lothian. Balliol created Warenne earl of Strathern, but this was in name only for the properties of the earldom were held by the Scots.[1]
Warenne died in 1347 and is buried at the monastery of Lewes. He was succeeded as earl by his nephew Richard Fitzalan, who was also earl of Arundel.[1]
Family
Warenne married Joan of Bar, daughter of count Henry III of Bar and Eleanor of England, eldest daughter of king Edward I of England. The two were soon estranged and live apart, and had no children, though the marriage was never dissolved. John and Jeanne married at Westminster on 25 May 1306, when he was almost twenty and Jeanne probably only ten, and certainly no more than eleven. Evidently sick of waiting for his little wife to grow up, John looked elsewhere, and his biographer F. R. Fairbank commented in 1907 "his wife when they married was a child, and half his own age; it is not wonderful [i.e. not to be wondered at] that the marriage was not a success. He was probably not one whit worse than the great majority in his own station."
On 16 August 1309, Edward II gave John licence "to make whom he please heir of the lands which he holds," as long as he "will not disinherit any heir he may have by the king's niece," which suggests that even then, despite her extreme youth, John wasn't sure if he would ever have children with Jeanne and that their marriage was not a success. John had an illegitimate son called William born sometime before 24 August 1310 (see below), and it may have been his birth or imminent birth which prompted John to ask this favour of the king. In the spring of 1313, John and Jeanne's marriage collapsed completely: Edward sent William Aune to bring Jeanne to him and subsequently paid all her expenses at the Tower of London, and specifically invited her to come with him on his trip to France that year. John meanwhile was openly living with his mistress Maud Nerford and was threatened with excommunication on this account in 1313, a sentence finally carried out three years later. He had at least three sons with Maud, and in 1316 made strenuous though ultimately unsuccessful efforts to annul his marriage to Jeanne, marry Maud and make these boys his heirs. By the autumn of 1320, though, his relationship with Maud had ended: he petitioned parliament to ask for her brother John to be removed from a commission of oyer et terminer in Norfolk on the grounds that John Nerford and his fellow commissioners were doing all the harm they could to John, because he had "banished Maud de Nerford from his heart and ousted her from his company."
By the end of John's life, he was living with another highborn mistress, Isabel Holland, and was once more attempting to annul his marriage to Jeanne in order to marry Isabel instead. In June 1346, he made an arrangement with Edward III regarding the settlement of his lands which makes it clear that despite his age - he turned sixty that month - he hadn't given up hope of marrying and fathering a legitimate heir by Isabel, who was over thirty years his junior (even her mother was three or four years younger than he was). [4] In his will of 24 June 1347, John referred to Isabel as ma compaigne, the same way men of the era referred to their wives - but however John might have wished that she was, Isabel wasn't his wife as he never managed to annul his marriage to the childless Jeanne de Bar, and although he fathered lots of children by other women, his heir was his sister Alice's son Richard 'Copped Hat', earl of Arundel. (His Yorkshire lands passed to Edward III's son Edmund of Langley, John's godson.) John completely ignored his wife of forty-one years in his will but left numerous possessions to his mistress Isabel, including all his beds, half his livestock, various gold rings, chapel vestments, a gold cup and a large amount of other valuable plate, and "all the residue of all my goods and chattels" after his bequests and debts had been paid.
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Additional References:‰ http://books.google.com/books?id=n2sJAAAAQAAJ&pg=PA527&dq=watsons+history+of+the+house+of+Warren&hl=en&sa=X&ei=9caGUsWNOcTTiwLwz4GoCg&ved=0CC0Q6AEwAA#v=onepage&q=watsons%20history%20of%20the%20house%20of%20Warren&f=false‰ The Retrospective Review, and Historical and Antiquarian Magazine, Volumes 1-2
By Henry Southern, Sir Nicholas Harris Nicolas, Page 528'''
___________________________________________________________________________________ The Peerage of England, Or A Genealogical and Historical Account of All the ...
By Arthur Collins. This author claims that John was divorced from Jeanne, but this is untrue, he was excommunicated for living with Maud; it is also untrue that the mothers of John's children have been all positively identified as Maud's issue. He also never married Isabel de Holland, as he was already married.
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http://www.maximiliangenealogy.co.uk/burke1/Royal%20Descents/hughesofgwerclas_1.htm
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ohn de Warenne m. Joan de Barre in 1306 when she was 10 or 11 y.o. ...
On 25 May 1306 Warenne married Joan of Bar, daughter of count Henry III of Bar and Eleanor of England, eldest daughter of king Edward I of England. The two were soon estranged and lived apart, and had no children, though the marriage was never dissolved.
In 1316 Warenne was excommunicated for adultery with Maud de Nerford, by whom he had several illegitimate children.
Maude de Skegeton, called Maud de Nerford was alive in 1326, but dead before 22 Nov 1345.
Having no issue by his wife, he had for that, or some other reason, conceived a dislike to her, and had cohabited with one Maud de Nerford ...
The earl finding that he could not have both a wife and concubine, was determined, if he could, to be without the former, and therefore, partly on the pretence of a prior contract made with this Maud de Nerford, and partly because Joan de Barr and he were too nearly related ...
Johannes de Warren ... sued for a divorce; on account of a former contract with Maud de Nerford, it was necessary that the said Maud should libel against Joan de Barr; and accordingly she did so ...
Joan (being the king's relation, and residing at court) was cited in the king's palace at Westminster.
This divorce, being agreeable to both parties, took place*, and the earl settled on the said Joan 740 marks per annum, for life; after which she stayed in England till the 19 Edw. III. when obtaining protection for all her lands in England, which were assigned for her support, with the stock thereupon, for the better defence, and safe-guard of them in her absence, she went beyond sea, on special employment for the king. 26 Edw. III. she had licence there to continue, till the 15th of St. Michael that year; after which I know nothing more of her, than that the register book of Lewes tells us, that she died in 1361, and was buried abroad.
Other sources deny that the divorce was ever granted and it is generally accepted that it was not. ·Ä¢ Memoirs of the Ancient Earls Vol 2 - John de Warenne, 8th Earl + Maud de Nerford his mistress
It is because none of John's children were "legitimate" and therefore he had no one to legally pass his titles to, he is often styled "the last Earl".
The will of Earl John de Warenne: On Sunday the 24th day of June in the year of the Incarnation of our Lord 1347, I, John, Earl of Warenne, of Surrey and of Strathorne. Lord of Bromfeld and of Yal, in good and sound memory, make my Testament in my castle of Conesburgh ...
I bequeath to Sir William de Warenne, my son, 100 marks, my helmet of silver gilt for Strathorne, with the coronet of silver gilt for the same, two fastenings and the pin of silver gilt for the cloak, and all my amour for joust,
And to my daughter, his wife [not named], one golden broach,
I bequeath to Edward de Warenne, my son, £5,
I bequeath to Joan de Basyngg, my daughter, one cup of plain silver,
I bequeath to Katherine, my daughter, 10 marks,
I bequeath to Isabel, my daughter, a nun at Sempyngham, £5
I bequeath to Dan [%E2%80%9CDauns%E2%80%9D] William de Warenne, my son, my Bible which I had made in French, and which should remain in the house where he shall be prior in perpetual memory of me.
I bequeath to Sir Thomas Beron, 12 dishes, 12 saucers, six ordinary goblets, one plain cup, two basins and two chargers of silver, my old bed of red [English; ·Äúworsted·Äù], and the cloth of one robe, partly of striped velvet and partly of red velvet, with the cloak of red velvet, for a vestment for his church.
I bequeath to Isabel de Holand, my compaigne, my gold ring with the good ruby, the five gold rings placed as stars which are in my golden eagle, so that she put other rings in their place, such as she shall please, the complete principal vestments for my chapel, with the complete fittings for the altar, my censer of silver gilt and enamel, my golden cup with a little [English: ·ÄúEwer·Äù] of silver gilt, all my beds, great and small, except those which I have bequeathed to othera [sic, plural], the great dish, the silver pot for alms, three plates for spices, all my vessels of plain silver, as in dishes, saucers, basins, washing dishes, chargers, cups and goblets, except those which I have bequeathed to others in this Testament,
And the half of my stock, as oxen, cows, mares, foals, sheep and other beasts,
And after my debts and my bequeaths shall be paid, I bequeath to my said wife, all the residue of all my goods and chattels, in whatever place they should be found.
Tijdbalk John de Warenne 7th Earl of Surrey & Sussex
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