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- Zij is geboren rond 1012 in of Vexin, Normandy, France.
- Zij is overleden tussen May 24, 1053 en September 11, 1053 in Valois, Bretagne, France.
- Een kind van Nocher (II) (III) ? de Bar-sur-Aube en Adelais Alice Bar-Aube
- Deze gegevens zijn voor het laatst bijgewerkt op 4 januari 2022.
Gezin van Adâ®le (Aelis) de Bar-sur-Aube comtesse suo jure de Bar-sur-Aube
Zij is getrouwd met Raoul III "le Grand" de Mantes de Valois (de Vexin).
Zij zijn getrouwd.
Kind(eren):
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Adâ®le (Aelis) de Bar-sur-Aube
Gender:
Female
Birth:
1012
of Vexin, Normandy, France
Death:
between May 24, 1053 and September 11, 1053 (40-41)
Valois, Bretagne, France
Immediate Family:
Daughter of Nocher III, comte de Bar sur Aube and Adelais de Soissons
Wife of Renaud de Semur-en-Brionnais; Renaud I, comte de Joigny; Roger I de Vignory, avouâ© de Vignory,
and Raoul III "le Grand" de Mantes, Comte de Valois et d'Amiens et du Vexin
Mother of Geoffroi II, count of Joigny; Guy II, seigneur de Vignory; Hawise de Mortimer (du Vexin); Gautier de Valois, comte de Bar-sur-Aube; Simon de Valois, comte de Valois et de Amiens; Adelais de Valois et du Vexin, Countess of Valois; Alix (Adela) de Valois and ââlisabeth de Valois, dame de Châ¢teauvillain
https://www.geni.com/people/Adâ®le-comtesse-de-Bar-sur-Aube/6000000002043208938
http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/CHAMPAGNE%20NOBILITY.htm
http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/chambarsein.htm
as daughter of Nocher III:
AELIS (-11 Sep 1053).
The Acta Sanctorum commentary on the life of St Simon de Valois records that "Rodulpho (Simonis genitori)" married three wives, firstly "Adela, Nocheri Barrensis ad Albam comtis filia, Notheri comitis Suessionum neptis, Archardi proneptis" who had previously married "Rainaldum de Sinemuro, Rainardum comitem de Jooniaco, Rotgerium de Wangionis ripa"[105].
Ctss de Bar-sur-Aube.
Her origin is indicated by the undated charter under which her son "Symon comes Barrensium" donated property to the abbey of Molesme for the souls of "parentum suorum Radulfiဦcomitis et Walterii fratris suis et matris sue Adele"[106].
The Chronicle of Alberic de Trois-Fontaines names "Adala" wife of "comitis Veromandie [error for Valois] Rodolfi" and mother of "Symonem et filiamဦAdala", but does not give her origin[107]. "Symon comes Barrensium" donated property to the abbey of Molesme for the souls of "parentum suorum Radulfiဦcomitis et Walterii fratris suis et matris sue Adele" by undated charter, the entry stating that
"Adelina comitissa" died "III Id Sep"[108].
m firstly (1040) RENAUD de Semur-en-Brionnais, son of GEOFFROY I Seigneur de Semur & his first wife --- de Brioude.
m secondly RENARD Comte de Joigny, son of GEOFFROY de Joigny & his wife Alix de Sens.
m thirdly as his second wife, ROGER [I] avouâ© de Vignory, son of GUY [I] de Vignory & his wife --- (-after [1050/52]).
m fourthly (after [1050/52]) as his first wife, RAOUL III Comte de Valois, de Vexin, d'Amiens et de Vitry, son of RAOUL II Comte de Valois & his wife Adela de Breteuil (-Pâ©ronne 23 Feb or 8 Sep 1074, bur Montdidier, later transferred to Crâ©py-en-Valois, â©glise collâ©giale Saint-Arnoul). The county of Bar-sur-Aube was transmitted to the issue of this fourth marriage.
Of Raoul III, the http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/NORTHERN%20FRANCE.htm#RaoulIIIValoisdied1074 states:
RAOUL [III] ·Äúle Grand·Äù (-Pâ©ronne 23 Feb or 8 Sep 1074, bur Montdidier, later transferred to Crâ©py-en-Valois, â©glise collâ©giale Saint-Arnoul). ...He succeeded [1030/35] as Comte de Valois. He headed the resistance to Henri I King of France from the death of Eudes II Comte de Blois in 1038, and as such led the campaigns of Beauvaisis in 1041[1234]. He succeeded his cousin Gautier [III] as Comte d'Amiens et du Vexin. ... First conseiller in the royal council, he was one of the most powerful and influential nobles in the kingdom. He was excommunicated because of the scandal of his third marriage, he reappeared at court only in 1070. ....
m firstly as her fourth husband, AELIS de Bar-sur-Aube, widow firstly of RENAUD de Semur-en-Brionnais, secondly of RENARD Comte de Joigny and thirdly of ROGER [I] avouâ© de Vignory, daughter and heiress of NOCHER [III] Comte de Bar-sur-Aube et de Vitry-en-Perthois & his wife --- (-11 Sep 1053). The Chronicle of Alberic de Trois-Fontaines names "Adala" wife of "comitis Veromandie [error for Valois] Rodolfi" and mother of "Symonem et filiam·Ä¶Adala", but does not give her origin[1238]. The Acta Sanctorum commentary on the life of St Simon de Valois records that "Rodulpho (Simonis genitori)" married three wives, firstly "Adela, Nocheri Barrensis ad Albam comtis filia, Notheri comitis Suessionum neptis, Archardi proneptis" who had previously married "Rainaldum de Sinemuro, Rainardum comitem de Jooniaco, Rotgerium de Wangionis ripa"[1239]. Her origin is indicated by the undated charter under which her son "Symon comes Barrensium" donated property to the abbey of Molesme for the souls of "parentum suorum Radulfi·Ä¶comitis et Walterii fratris suis et matris sue Adele"[1240]. "Symon comes Barrensium" donated property to the abbey of Molesme for the souls of "parentum suorum Radulfi·Ä¶comitis et Walterii fratris suis et matris sue Adele" by undated charter, the entry stating that "Adelina comitissa" died "III Id Sep"[1241].
[m secondly (repudiated 1060) ALIENOR "Haquenez", ... Heiress of Montdidier et Pâ©ronneand m thirdly ([1061]%29 as her second husband, ANNA Iaroslavna, widow of HENRI I King of France, daughter of IAROSLAV I Vladimirovich "Mudriy/the Wise" Grand Prince of Kiev ].
Comte Raoul III & his first wife had five children:
a) GAUTHIER (-in battle 6 Sep [1065/1067]). "Comes Rodulfus et filius meus Walterus et Simon·Ä¶" donated property to Montiâ©render by undated charter[1248]. "Symon comes Barrensium" donated property to the abbey of Molesme for the souls of "parentum suorum Radulfi·Ä¶comitis et Walterii fratris suis et matris sue Adele" by undated charter, the entry stating that "Walterius comes" died "VIII Id Sep"[1249]. Comte de Bar-sur-Aube.
b) SIMON (-Rome [30 Sep/1 Oct] 1080, bur 1082 Rome St Peter). "Comes Rodulfus et filius meus Walterus et Simon·Ä¶" donated property to Montiâ©render by undated charter[1250]. The Chronicle of Alberic de Trois-Fontaines names "Symonem et filiam·Ä¶Adala" children of "comitis Veromandie [error for Valois] Rodolfi" and his wife Adela[1251]. "Rodulphus·Ä¶Ambianensis comes" donated property to Sainte-Marie d'Amiens, with the consent of "Simon filius meus et Gualterus, Gualteri Tyrelli natus", by charter dated 1069, subscribed by "Anna uxor eius"[1252]. Comte de Valois, d'Amiens, de Montdidier et de Bar-sur-Aube. The Liber Modernorum Regum Francorum names "Symon filius eius" as successor of "Vadensium comes Rodulfus", recording that he resigned the county and went on a pilgrimage to Rome where he died and was buried "in portico sancti Petri"[1253]. He was educated by Mathilde de Flandre, wife of William I King of England, but rejected the betrothal to his daughter[1254]. "Symon comes Barrensium" donated property to the abbey of Molesme for the souls of "parentum suorum Radulfi·Ä¶comitis et Walterii fratris suis et matris sue Adele" by undated charter[1255]. He resigned his county in 1077 and became a monk. "Symon comes·Ä¶effectus monacus" is named in a charter dated [1076?] under which Philippe I King of France confirmed his donations to Cluny[1256]. He went on pilgrimage to Rome where he died[1257]. The necrology of the Priory of Saint-Martin-des-Champs records the death "Kal Oct" of "Simon comes"[1258]. [Betrothed ([after 1069]) to AGATHE de Normandie, daughter of WILLIAM I King of England & his wife Mathilde de Flandre ([1064]-before 1074, bur Bayeux Cathedral). The Vita Simonis records a ficitional speech of William I King of England in which he offers his (unnamed) daughter's hand to Simon, specifying that she had previously been betrothed to "regis Hispaniarum Anfursi et Roberti principis Apuliâ¶"[1259]. The supposed betrothal to Robert of Apulia (which would have to be Robert "Guiscard" Duke of Apulia) is unrecorded in the numerous other sources dealing with his life and is probably pure fiction. This does not inspire confidence with respect to the historical accuracy of the whole passage, but if it is correct the daughter in question would presumably have been Agatha whose betrothal to "Amfursio regi Galliciâ¶" (presumably Alfonso VI King of Galicia and Leââ¥n, later King of Castile) is recorded by Orderic Vitalis[1260].] Betrothed (before 1077) to --- de la Marche, daughter of AUDEBERT [II] Comte de la Marche et du Pâ©rigueux & his wife Ponce ---. The Vita Simonis, interpolated in the Chronicle of Alberic de Trois-Fontaines, records the betrothal of "comes Symon" and "filiam comitis Hildeberti de Alvernis", specifying that Simon fled "ad monasterio de Casa Dei" without his father's knowledge before the marriage[1261].
c) [ELISABETH] de Valois (-[12 May 1093/1101]). The primary source which confirms her name, her parentage and marriage has not yet been identified. Dame de Châ¢teauvillain et d'Arc-en-Barrois. m BARTHELEMY Sire de Broyes et de Beaufort, son of HUGUES [I] "Bardoul" Seigneur de Broyes, de Beaufort et de Pithiviers & his wife --- (-after 1072).
d) ADELAIS de Valois (-after 1077). The Chronicle of Alberic de Trois-Fontaines names "Symonem et filiam·Ä¶Adala" as children of "comitis Veromandie [error for Valois] Rodolfi" and his wife Adela[1262]. The primary source which confirms her marriage has not yet been identified. Ctss de Valois. "Herbertus Vermandensium et Vadascorum comes" donated property to the church of Saint-Quentin and others, with the consent of "Alide coniugis meâ¶", by charter dated 1059 (date unlikely to be correct, considering that Hâ©ribert did not succeed as Comte de Valois until 1077)[1263]. m ([1059 or before]) HERIBERT [VI] Comte de Vermandois, son of EUDES Comte de Vermandois & his wife Pavia --- ([1032]-[1080]).
e) ADELA [Alix] de Valois (-12 May [1093/1100], bur Saint-Faron). The Chronicle of Alberic de Trois-Fontaines names "Alaydis soror sancti Symonis" as wife of "comiti Campanie Theobaldo" but confuses her with her niece Adelais, daughter of Hâ©ribert [IV] Comte de Vermandois, saying that she married "Hugoni fratri regis Philippi" after the death of her husband[1264]. "Teobaudus comes palatinus·Ä¶cum mulierum Adelaide" donated property to Montiâ©render by charter dated [1077/81] which names "bone memorie predecessorum·Ä¶patris sui Odonis comitis et Heriberto cognomento senioris·Ä¶comes Rodulfus predecessor suus et propinquus"[1265], the latter presumably referring to the father-in-law of Comte Thibaut III. "Adeladis comitisse" subscribed the donation to Cluny by "Rotrocus castri Mauritanie comes atque Dunensis castri vicecomes" dated 11 Jan 1078, immediately after "Tetbaldi comitis, Stephani comitis"[1266], it being assumed that she was the wife of the former not the latter. The necrology of Saint-Loup, Troyes records the death "XII Mai" of "Aalais uxor Theobaudi comitis Campaniâ¶" and her burial "in monasterio Sancti Faronis"[1267]. m (before 1061) as his third wife, THIBAUT III Count of Blois, Chartres and Champagne, son of EUDES II, Count of Blois, Chartres, Troyes and Champagne & his second wife Ermengarde d'Auvergne ([1010]-29/30 Sep 1089).
Other Sources
comtesse de Bar-sur-Aube Aelis de Bar-sur-Aube1 b. circa 1015, d. 1053
Father Nocher III de Bar-sur-Aube1 b. circa 976, d. before 1040
Also called Adele de Bar-sur-Aube.2 Comtesse de Bar-sur-Aube Aelis de Bar-sur-Aube was born circa 1015. She was the daughter of Nocher III de Bar-sur-Aube.1 Comtesse de Bar-sur-Aube Aelis de Bar-sur-Aube married comte de Valois Raoul III de Valois, son of Raoul II de Vexin and Adelaide de Breteuil; His 1st. Her 4th.3,1 Comtesse de Bar-sur-Aube Aelis de Bar-sur-Aube died in 1053.1 Family comte de Valois Raoul III de Valois b. circa 1000?, d. 8 September 1074 Children Adelaide de Valois+ b. c 1030, d. bt 12 Apr 1093 - 11001 Adele, comtesse de Valois+ b. b 1043, d. 1118
Citations [S1146] Pas on Raoul III de Valois, online http://worldroots.clicktron.com/brigitte/famous/r/…+1074.htm. [S204] Roderick W. Stuart, RfC, 108-33. [S204] Roderick W. Stuart, RfC, 268-33.
An account of her marriages is given in the Charta de advocatis Firmitatis ad Alba, written 200 years after her death. She was married first to Rainald de Sâ©mur who died without issue, then betrothed to Raoul de Crâ©py, count of Valois when on his way to Rome; but in his absence she was married instead to Renard de Joigny because her vassals were apprehensive about Raoul's power over them. On return Raoul sacked Joigny and took custody of Adâ®le, holding her at La Fertâ© to make sure she was not pregnant to Renard. Again her vassals intervened and she was given to Roger de Vignory, causing Raoul to go on a second rampage that decided the matter; finally he married Adâ®le and she had children with him. (Peter Stewart, soc.genealogy.medieval, Feb. 23, 2012)
She died on 11 September, according to an undated charter written in 1076/77. She was dead by 1053 according to a later notice of a charter dated that year. (Peter Stewart, soc.genealogy.medieval, Feb. 25, 2012)
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NOCHER [II], son of NOCHER [I] Comte de Bar-sur-Aube & his wife Adelisa --- (-[1019/40]).‰ The Acta Sanctorum commentary on the life of Saint-Simon de Valois, based on an undated manuscript of the abbey of Saint-Claude, names "alius Nocherius, Widoဦclericus, frater eius" as the two sons of "Nocherius comes Suessionem"[16].‰ His parentage is confirmed by the charter dated 1011 under which "Fulchone Suessionis episcopo ac comite Notcherio fratribus" supported a donation by "Vualterius Eduorumဦepiscopus" of property to the abbey of Flavigny, subscribed by "ဦNotcherii comitis, Notcherii filii eius, Adelise comitisse"[17].‰ Comte de Bar-sur-Aube.‰
m ---.‰ The name of Nocherမs wife is not known.‰
Nocher [II] & his wife had two children:‰
1. AELIS ([1020/25]-11 Sep 1053).¬â The Acta Sanctorum commentary on the life of Saint-Simon de Valois, based on an undated manuscript of the abbey of Saint-Claude, records that "Rodulpho (Simonis genitori)" married three wives, firstly "Adela, Nocheri Barrensis ad Albam comitis filia, Notheri comitis Suessionum neptis, Achardi proneptis" who had previously married "Rainaldum de Sinemuro, Rainardum comitem de Jooniaco, Rotgerium de Wangionis ripa"[18].¬â Considering the date of her first marriage, and that she had several children by her fourth husband, it is unlikely that Aelis was born before [1020/25].¬â Ctss de Bar-sur-Aube.¬â Her marital history is recorded in the Acta Sanctorum commentary on the life of Saint-Simon de Valois: after the death of her first husband, "Rodulfus comes Calvimontis Vallis Cassini" [identified as her future fourth husband] visited "castellum Barri" who proposed marriage, the ceremony to take place after his return from a pilgrimage to Rome, but as the proposal displeased "primoribus terrⶠillius" they married her during Raoul·Äôs absence to "Rainardo comiti de Jooniaco".¬â After Raoul returned, he besieged "Jooniacum castellum" and abducted Aelis to "castello Firmitatis", wanting to assure himself that she was not pregnant before marrying her.¬â While there, the inhabitants of Bar-sur-Aube married her again to "Rotgerio de Wangionis ripa", after which Raoul ravaged the countryside until they returned Aelis to him[19].¬â Her son "Symon comes Barrensium" donated property to the abbey of Molesme for the souls of "parentum suorum Radulfi·Ä¶comitis et Walterii fratris suis et matris sue Adele" by undated charter[20].¬â The Chronicle of Alberic de Trois-Fontaines names "Adala" wife of "comitis Veromandie [error for Valois] Rodolfi" and mother of "Symonem et filiam·Ä¶Adala", but does not give her origin[21].¬â "Symon comes Barrensium" donated property to the abbey of Molesme for the souls of "parentum suorum Radulfi·Ä¶comitis et Walterii fratris suis et matris sue Adele" by undated charter, the entry stating that "Adelina comitissa" died "III Id Sep"[22].¬â m firstly (1040) RENAUD de Semur-en-Brionnais, son of GEOFFROY I Seigneur de Semur & his first wife --- de Brioude.¬â m secondly ([1040/42], separated) RENARD Comte de Joigny, son of GEOFFROY de Joigny & his wife Alix de Sens.¬â m thirdly ([1041/43], separated) as his second wife, ROGER [I] avouâ© de Vignory, son of GUY [I] de Vignory & his wife --- (-before 1057).¬â m fourthly ([1041/45]) as his first wife, RAOUL [III] Comte de Valois, du Vexin, d'Amiens et de Vitry, son of RAOUL [II] Comte de Valois & his wife [--- de Breteuil] (-Pâ©ronne 23 Feb or 8 Sep 1074, bur Montdidier, later transferred to Crâ©py-en-Valois, â©glise collâ©giale Saint-Arnoul).¬â The county of Bar-sur-Aube was transmitted to the children of Aelis·Äôs fourth marriage.¬â
2. ISABELLE .‰ The Acta Sanctorum commentary on the life of Saint-Simon de Valois, based on an undated manuscript of the abbey of Saint-Claude, names "comitissamဦAdelhida et Isabel" as the two daughters of Nocher [II] Comte de Bar-sur-Aube, adding that Isabelle married "Galterius de Clamice" by whom she had "filium Rodulphum" who was strangled "apud Firmitatem jam juvenis"[23].‰ m GAUTHIER de Clamecy, son of ---.‰ One child:‰
a). RAOUL de Clamecy (-murdered La Fertâ©-sur-Aube ----).¬â The Acta Sanctorum commentary on the life of Saint-Simon de Valois, based on an undated manuscript of the abbey of Saint-Claude, names "comitissam·Ä¶Adelhida et Isabel" as the two daughters of Nocher [II] Comte de Bar-sur-Aube, adding that Isabelle married "Galterius de Clamice" by whom she had "filium Rodulphum" who was strangled "apud Firmitatem jam juvenis"[24].¬â
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