Van der Feen/Mendels/Rowe/Hesketh Family Tree » Melisende (Millicent) de Rethel (± 1120-1161)

Personal data Melisende (Millicent) de Rethel 

• She was born about 1120 in Rethel, Ardennes, France.
• She died in the year 1161 in Stanton, Oxfordshire, England.
• A child of Gervais de Rethel and Elizabeth de Namur

Household of Melisende (Millicent) de Rethel

(1) She had a relationship with Richard II de Camville.

Child(ren):

1. Millicent / Isabel de Camville  ± 1152-± 1208 
2. Richard de Camville  ± 1160-1191

(2) She had a relationship with Robert Marmion.

Notes about Melisende (Millicent) de Rethel

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This area of the tree took a lot of unscrambling due to drastically garbled information.

None of the following is any better than nth-hand secondary documentation - if that.

http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~mainegenie/MARMION.htm

There is some debate concerning the wives of Robert [Marmion] I and Robert [Marmion] II as being daughters of Gervase de Rethel. Moriarty in the TAG article of Jan. 1944 states that Alberic, Canon of Huyon-sur-Meuse stated that Clarembald de Rosoy, who married Elizabeth de Namur after the death of Gervase in 1124 in order to disinherit her, married the only daughter of Gervase out of the country to a certain noble of Normandy named Robert Marmion. Alberic doesn't give her name or say which Robert Marmion was her husband, however, the daughter of Gervase was married c.1133 so it would make more sense that she was married to Robert Sr. and not Jr. Also, Gervase's mother's name was Milicent thus making Robert Sr.'s wife named after her grandmother. Also, Queen Adeliza of Louvain, wife of King Henry I gave part of Stanton, Oxfordshire, to Milicent, wife of Robert Marmion "cognata mea." Queen Adeliza was a second cousin of Gervase's daughter, both being descended from Albert III de Namur and Ida of Saxony.

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From Stirnet.com:

Gervais, Count of Rethel (b 1075, d 1124)

m. Elizabeth de Namur (dau of Godfrey, Count of Namur, she m2. Clarembaud de Rosoy)

GenEU shows Gervais & Elizabeth as having 2 daughters, Elizabeth (married to either Robert de Marmion or Roger/Clerembaud de Rosoy) and Milicent (possibly married to Robert de Marmion). Various other sites show those daughters with Elizabeth married to Roger de Rosoy and Milicent married to Richard de Camville, whilst some sites show the Milicent who married Richard de Camville as 'de Brabant'. TCP (Marmion) shows Robert de Marmion (the elder) married to Milicent (parentage unknown, she later married Richard de Camville) and having a son, another Robert de Marmion who married Elizabeth, dau of Gervase, son of Hugh, Count of Rethel.

(A) Elizabeth de Rethel

m. Robert de Marmion (d c10.1181)

(B) Milicent de Rethel

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