The Orys and Cook Family Tree » John Swain (1811-1883)

Personal data John Swain 

• He was born in the year 1811 in Castle Donnington, Leicestershire. England.Source 1
• He was baptized on January 15, 1811 in Long Clawson, Leicestershire, England.

  First name(s) John Last name Swain Birth year 1811 Baptism year 1811 Baptism date 15 Jan 1811 Baptism place Long Clawson
  Denomination Anglican County Leicestershire Country England Father's first name(s) John Mother's first name(s) Anne
  Archive Record Office for Leicestershire, Leicester & Rutland Archive reference DE2300/3 Page - Record set Leicestershire Baptisms
  
  OR
  
  First name(s) John Last name Swain Birth year 1811 Baptism year 1811 Baptism date 25 Aug 1811 Baptism place Syston
  Denomination Anglican County Leicestershire Country England Father's first name(s) John Mother's first name(s) Mary
  Archive Record Office for Leicestershire, Leicester & RutlandArchive reference DE2811/3 Page -

• Occupations:
• in the year 1834 Lace Maker.
• in the year 1851 Railway Plate Layer.Source 2
• in the year 1861 Lace Maker.Source 3
• from 1866 till 1881 Baker.Sources 4, 5, 6
• Resident:
• in the year 1841: Dove Cote, Castle Donnington, Leicestershire.Source 1

  Source Citation: Class: HO107; Piece 594; Book: 24; Civil Parish: Castle Donington; County: Leicestershire; Enumeration District: 6; Folio: ; Page: 1; Line: 4; GSU roll: 438744.
  
  Address Dove Cote Parish Castle Donnington Registration District Ashby De La Zouch, Barrow Upon Soar, Loughborough & Shardlow
  Image Reference HO107/0594/F? Found 5 Results.
  Forename Surname Age Year Born Relation Birth Place Occupation
  
  John Swain 30 1811 Yes Lace Maker
  Mary Swain 30 1811 Yes
  Elizabeth Swain 6 1835 Yes
  Thomas Swain 4 1837 Yes
  Frederick Swain 2 1839 Yes

• February 1846: Altofts, West Yorkshire..

  See Letters in Notes.

• in the year 1851: Station House, Swannington, Leicestershire.Source 2

  Source Citation: Class: HO107; Piece: 2084; Folio: 825; Page: 41; GSU roll: 87710-87711.
  
  Address Station House Talbot Lane Parish Swannington Registration District Ashby De La Zouch
  Image Reference HO107/2084/F? Found 4 Results.
  Forename Surname Age Year Born Relation Birth Place Occupation
  
  John Swain 40 1811 Head Castle Donnington, Leicestershire Railway Plate Layer
  Elizabeth Swain 15 1836 Daughter Wilson, Leicestershire House Keeper
  Thomas Swain 14 1837 Son Castle Donnington, Leicestershire Scholar
  Frederick Swain 13 1838 Son Castle Donnington, Leicestershire Farm Servant

• in the year 1861: 7 Cheltenham Terrace, St Mary, Nottingham. (Lodger).Source 3

  Source Citation: Class: RG9; Piece: 2465; Folio: 79; Page: 7; GSU roll: 542975.
  
  Address 7 Cheltenham Terrace Parish Nottingham St Mary Registration District Nottingham Image Reference RG9/2465/F?
  Found 7 Results.
  Forename Surname Age Year Born Relation Birth Place Occupation
  Jane Chilton 52 1809 Head Nottinghamshire Proprietor of Houses
  Thomas Chilton 17 1844 Son Ruddington, Nottinghamshire Railway Clerk
  Charles Chilton 15 1846 Son Ruddington, Nottinghamshire Railway Clerk
  Arthur Chilton 12 1849 Son Ruddington, Nottinghamshire Scholar
  John Spain 49 1812 Lodger Eastington, Gloucestershire Lace Maker (Birth Castle Donnington)
  Mary Spain 46 1815 Lodger Bradmore, Nottinghamshire
  Mary Jane Spain 7 1854 Lodger Burton, Nottinghamshire Scholar (Birth Beeston Notts)
  
  Name of Lodgers should be SWAIN.

• in the year 1871: Agnes Street, St. Mary, Nottingham.Source 5

  Source Citation: Class: RG10; Piece: 3526; Folio: 54; Page: 25; GSU roll: 839752.
  
  Address 4 Agnes Street Parish Nottingham, St Mary Registration District Nottingham Image Reference RG10/3526/F? Found 3 Results.
  Forename Surname Age Year Born Relation Birth Place Occupation
  John Swain 59 1812 Head Castle Donnington, Nottinghamshire Butler
  Mary Swain 51 1820 Wife Nottinghamshire
  Mary I Swain 17 1854 Daughter Beeston, Nottinghamshire Lace Worker

• from 1881 till 1883: 134 Arkwright Street, Nottingham, Notts.

  Source Citation: Class: RG11; Piece: 3363; Folio: 84; Page: 11; Line: ; GSU roll: 1341803.
  Address 134 Arkwright Street Parish Nottingham St. Mary Registration District Nottingham Image Reference RG11/3363/F?
  Found 5 Results.
  Forename Surname Age Year Born Relation Birth Place Occupation
  John Sawin 69 1812 Head Castle Donnington, Leicestershire Baker
  Mary J Sawin 27 1854 Daughter Beeston, Nottinghamshire
  Louisa Sawin 13 1868 Grand Daughter Liverpool, Lancashire Scholar
  John Sawin 7 1874 Grand Son Liverpool, Lancashire Scholar
  William Hand 23 1858 Boarder Aslockton, Nottinghamshire Baker

• He died on July 20, 1883 in Nottingham. England, he was 72 years old.

  First name(s) JOHN
  Last name SWAIN
  Gender Male
  Birth day -
  Birth month -
  Birth year 1811
  Age 72
  Death quarter 3
  Death year 1883
  District Nottingham
  County Nottinghamshire
  Volume 7B
  Page 194
  Country England

• Probate on August 3, 1883 naar Nottingham. England.

  Name: John Swain
  Death Date: 20 Jul 1882
  Death Place: Nottingham, England
  Probate Date: 3 Aug 1883
  Probate Registry: Nottingham, England
  Effects ¹320-14s-11d
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• This information was last updated on October 15, 2021.

Household of John Swain

(1) He is married to Mary Nicklinson.

They got married on October 1, 1834 at Breedon on the Hill, Leicestershire, he was 23 years old.Source 7

First name(s) John Last name Swain Age 21 Birth year 1813 Occupation Lace Maker Marital Status Bachelor
Residence Wilson, Breedon on the Hill Residence county Leicester Licence year 1834 Licence date 23 Sep 1834
Parish Breedon on the Hill Marriage place 1 Breedon on the Hill Spouse's first name(s) Mary Spouse's last name Nicklinson
Spouse's age 21 Spouse's birth year 1813 Spouse's marital status Single Spouse's residence Wilson, Breedon on the Hill Spouse's residence county Leicester
Denomination Anglican
County Leicestershire
Country England

Child(ren):

1. Elizabeth Swain  1835-1913
2. Thomas Nicholson Swain  1837-1889 
3. Frederick Sharp Swain  1839-1921 
4. Jemima Swain  1845-± 1846

(2) He is married to Mary Cumberland.

They got married on April 4, 1852 at St Leodegarius, Basford, Nottinghamshire, he was 41 years old.

First name(s) JOHN Last name SWAIN Marriage quarter 2 Marriage year 1852 Registration month -
MarriageFinder™ JOHN SWAIN married one of these people Mary Cumberland, Kezia Taylor District Basford District number
County Nottinghamshire Country England Volume 7B Page 127

First name(s) John Last name Swain Marriage year 1852 Marriage date 04 Apr 1852 Marriage place Basford Church St Leodegarius Denomination Anglican Spouse's first name(s) Mary Spouse's last name Cumberland
County Nottinghamshire Country England

Child(ren):

1. Mary Jane Swain  1854-1897

Notes about John Swain

In 1881 John has a Mary J Swain living with him age 27 (b. 1854 in Beeston Notts.) shown as daughter
There is also 2 of his grandchildren Louisa age 13 and John age 7. These are the Children of Thomas N. Swain.

From Bee Beckett of Ancestry:-

Dear Brian,
Thank you for your email. I have been researching the Beckett line for a few years now and here is what I know:
As I mentioned, Stephen Beckett married Jane Shepherd 1873 in St Mary, Nottingham. Witnesses are John Swain and Mary Jane Swain. Jane Shepherd comes from Sutton Bonnington in Notts and her father is Thomas Shepherd (1827 Castle Donington) and her grandfather is Thomas Shepherd (1793 Diseworth), known in the family as "old Tommy". He married Elizabeth Swain (1784 Castle Donington) on the 29.1.1821 in Castle Donington and they had 3 children: Catherine (1822/5?), William (1824) and Thomas (1827). You can see William (a pic) on the Paul Scattergood family tree on ancestry. Elizabeth Swain is much older and we think she has been married before and has a child or children from this marriage. (I have't found proof, but it could be William Swain marrying 1.2.1808 Elizabeth Garton in Castle D., children George (1808), William (1810) and John, needs more research). What I do know is from a transcript of a letter from John Swain, written in 1846 from Altofts, near Normanton, calling Elizabeth and Thomas Shepherd "mother and father" and it talks about Fred going to a "woman" school and Thomas learning to read.
There are many cross references to the family, Jemima for example stays with grandparents Shepherd in Sutton Bonnington. Thomas Swain in 1861 has George and Catherine Simpkin as lodgers, Catherine is his aunt (Thomas and Elizabeth Shepherds daughter) and Elizabeth (his older sister) who is married to Joseph George Freemann (not Trumann!!).
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Altofts Sunday night February 1 '46

Dear Father and Mother Brothers and Sisters I have been intending to write to you every day for these last six weeks but various things caused me to put it off till now. My Dear Wife has been anxious for me to write to you as she knew you would be uneasy about us. I cannot say that either the children or ourselves like this country near so well as our old home but as we are more comfortable than wee would be there wee try to make ourselves content. I hope wee do not forget to be thankful to the giver of every good thing for the comforts we daily receive from his hands, hitherto the Lord has suffered us to lack no good thing. wee have never been short of either fuel to burn or food to eat since we came here. And though we are as frugal as wee can be I do assure you when wee have paid our rent and purchased just needful things for our family wee have not much to spare. I do asure you after I had left you at Kegworth thoughts came into my mind that quite overwelmed me is the trouble, I do not know when I was so ill as I was the whole journey. since we came here Mary has not been near so well as usual and has much to do the work in the house the roads here are very dirty and that makes her more work but I am hoping she will be beter soon. I have been my month at work at nights hours from eight at night till six in the morning and it does not suit me so well as days. Lately I have suffered very much from my feet and I found it dificult to atend my work, at all the last three days. I am much beter you must not think the railway work in your country is any thing to be compared to the labour we have here but I can do it very well if my feet does not fail me. I am sorry to have to tell you that out of all either Masters or men at this station there is but three or four that ever go to a place of worship and the working men are not only wicked but very ignorant and seem to glory in what ought to be their shame. I do not assosiate with them at all except at work. Wee shall settle the rent with Master Newbold as soon as convenient I have been afraid all the winter that trade would be very bad with you. I wish you could do without Machines Shope Thomas will get into something else very soon or else he must expect to be peniless while he lives. Fred goes to a womans school and Tom goes to School half days to learn to write, wee have to pay 5d the half week for him. the first Sunday wee were here I took them with me to the Wesleyan Chapel and got them into Sunday School there is about forty children attends the school and our Children are very fond of going. on New Years Day the school children were well suplied with buns and tea. The Chapel is a very good one with a School room under it and the Methodist here are the most zealous set of people I have ever known. I have been to the prayer Meetings several times and at prayer they are as noysey as John Tweells. I haves been twice expecting to hear Mr M ??? at our Chapell but have been disappointed as he did not come. There are some very wealthy people attends the Chapell. I am sorry to say the people in this place generaly are very ignorant and the publichouses here are thronged on a Sunday. there is a great deal of work done at this station on the Sabath which ought not to be done it is a very shocking sight to see not less than twenty men at work all day porters sending ludgeage trains and Bookkeepers straightning their books. their has been two fresh hands here that would not stop and one that wee have now is about to leave he is a very steady young man. you will see by the date of this that I meant to have sent it sooner but I have had such a busy week and have come home very tired every night so I have put it off another Week. I am glad to tell you that Mary is something beter and my feet are nearly well. I was sorry to hear that my Club cost so much please send me word when you write wheather I am in benifit or not and how you would have me pay my money in future. Wee sent you two pairs of gloves and one pair of mits to Kegworth Station by some Leicester ?? did you get them. I that send you the London News and Supplement by this post hoping to hear from you immediately. With our love to you all John Swain

Wee were very sorry to find Mrs Barkers Brush amongst our things when wee got here but I will settle with her for it.

SWAIN L1

Altofts March 22 1846

Dear Father and Mother I received your last of March 3. I was glad you had made enquires about my Lodge. I feel very anxcious to keep in benifit in case I should need releif . nearly a fortnight since I sent you 1s 6d in a Newspaper by one of the Garos that works from here to Derby he promised to forward it to Wm Leicester at Kegworth station. as I have not heard from you since I am afraid you have not got what I sent you. I hope some of you will write to me by return Post, I have just been on another nights month of nights and I am thankful that hitherto I have escaped all accidents. We had two young men Porters here from Barrow one of them has got lamed and has gone home. He was a very civil man. We have had three other men lamed lately. I hope that will be beter soon. Wee begin to be very busy now Crowds of Pasengers by almost every train. The men are often knocked up and obliged to have rest and no one will stop when he can get another situation. My own health is very much improved lately and I can lift a load which I used. could not my wife is as well as usuall but the Children are well and look beter than ever I saw them for which I thank God. We are very to hear that Brother Thos is ill wee hope he will be beter soon. Perhaps a ride to Normanton would do him good. Wee should be glad to see him or any of you. Wee begin to think about all our old friends and though wee shall never like this place so well as Donington yet it is not likely we shall ever settle there again. besure some of you write soon and send us any news that you think will interest us. Mary says Catherine is in the habit of writing and might write to us as we know that Fathers time is to much took up with other things. next saturday night I shall send a paper by one of our Porters that will pass Kegworth. he will come back here on Sunday night or early on Monday morning. Will you be kind and get me one penceworth of Leek seed. such a thing is not known here and leave it at the station for me. I will tell him to ask Leicester for it. half a pint of kidney beans would be very useful to me they are 2s 6d per quart. Half a dozen Normantons would be acceptable. Has the Cows Calved. I am afraid trade is no beter. If it is send me word. Who works the machines when you go to Wilson. call on our Brother Thomas give my love to him and his Family and to Mrs Hibert. give my love to my aunt Barker and Family. hoping soon to hear from you. yours affectionally John Swain

SWAIN L2

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