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Personal data Guillaume "Talvas" (Guillaume "Talvas") "Count of Alencon" de Bellême comte de Ponthieu et d'Alencon 

• Alternative names: Count of Alencon, Guy. d'Alençon, William III Talvas Baron William of Despencer
• Nickname is Count of Alencon.
• He was born about 1090Alencon
  France.
• He was christened in Count of, Ponthieu, Normandy, France.
• Baptized (at 8 years of age or later) by the priesthood authority of the LDS church in SUBMITTED.
• Alternative: Baptized (at 8 years of age or later) by the priesthood authority of the LDS church on April 24, 1937.
• Alternative: Baptized (at 8 years of age or later) by the priesthood authority of the LDS church on April 24, 1937.
• Alternative: Baptized (at 8 years of age or later) by the priesthood authority of the LDS church on April 24, 1937.
• Alternative: Baptized (at 8 years of age or later) by the priesthood authority of the LDS church on April 24, 1937.
• Alternative: Baptized (at 8 years of age or later) by the priesthood authority of the LDS church on April 24, 1937.
• Alternative: Baptized (at 8 years of age or later) by the priesthood authority of the LDS church on April 14, 1992.
• Occupations:
• unknown in Count of Alencon and Ponthieu.
• Stewart to Henry I of England.
• Comte, de Ponthieu, d'Alençon, Sieur, de la Roche-sur-Yon.
• He died on June 30, 1171 in England.
• A child of Robert de Bellême and Agnès d'Abbeville
• This information was last updated on February 8, 2016.

Household of Guillaume "Talvas" (Guillaume "Talvas") "Count of Alencon" de Bellême comte de Ponthieu et d'Alencon

He is married to Hâelie de Bourgogne.

They got married in the year 1115 at Europe.

Child(ren):

1. Guy Talvas  1115-1147 

Notes about Guillaume "Talvas" (Guillaume "Talvas") "Count of Alencon" de Bellême comte de Ponthieu et d'Alencon

GIVN Guillaume III Duke
SURN von Alencon
REPO @REPO80@
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GIVN William Talvas III Count
SURN von Ponthieu
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GIVN Guillaume III Duke
SURN von Alencon
REPO @REPO80@
TITL World Family Tree Vol. 11, Ed. 1
AUTH Brøderbund Software, Inc.
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GIVN William Talvas III Count
SURN von Ponthieu
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1998 1998
DATE 9 SEP 2000
TIME 13:17:50

Source #1: Frederick Lewis Weis, "Ancestral Roots of Certain American Colonists Who Came to America Before 1700" - Seventh Edition, with additions and corrections by Walter Lee Sheppard, Jr., assisted by Davis Faris (Baltimore, MD: Genealogical Publishing Co, 1995), pp. 101-102

Count of Alencon & Ponthieu.

Source #2: George Edward Cokayne, "The Complete Peerage of England, Scotland, Ireland, Great Britain and the United Kingdom, Extant or Dormant," New Edition, Revised and Much Enlarged, Edited by The Hon. Vicary Gibbs and H. A. Doubleday (London: The St. Catherine Press, 1926), Vol XI, pp. 375-377.

Name Suffix: Ct.Alencon&Pnth

[s2.FTW]

[Brøderbund WFT Vol. 2, Ed. 1, Tree #1241, Date of Import: May 8, 1997]

!COUNT OF PONTHIEU[Brøderbund WFT Vol. 2, Ed. 1, Tree #1241, Date of Import: May 8, 1997]

!COUNT OF PONTHIEU

William III of Ponthieu
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia.

William III of Ponthieu (ca. 1095 – 20 June 1172), son of Robert II of Bellême and Agnes of Ponthieu. He also called William III Talvas.

He assumed the countship of Ponthieu some time before 1111, upon the death of his mother. His father escaped capture at the battle of Tinchebrai (1106); but later, as envoy for king Louis of France, he went to the English court and was arrested by King Henry of England and was never released from prison. William was naturally driven by this to oppose king Henry, and his allegiance to count Geoffrey of Anjou caused Henry to seize certain of William's castles in Normandy. His wife was Ala of Burgundy. The Gesta Normannorum Ducum says that they had four children, two sons and two daughters: Guy II is called "the eldest son", but the editors doubt this; he assumed the county of Ponthieu during his father Talvas' lifetime, but preceeded him in death (Guy II died 1147; William Talvas died 1171); his sisters married Juhel son of Walter of Mayenne, and William de Warenne, 3rd Earl of Surrey.

[edit]
Source
The Gesta Normannorum Ducum of William of Jumièges, Orderic Vitalis, and Robert of Torigni, edited and translated by Elisabeth M. C. Van Houts, Clarendon Press, Oxford, 1995.

Preceded by:
Agnes Count of Ponthieu Succeeded by:
Guy II

CONFLICT: Chapman Family History, Beauchamp William Chapman, private publishing co., 1987 (states ADELA, dau. of William de TALVACE, their only dau.)

OCCUPATION: Count of Alencon and Ponthieu, son of Robert II (1035-1113), Count of Alencon, and Agnes, Countess of Ponthieu, dau. of Guy I, Count of Ponthieu, and a descendant of Hugh de Montgomery.

[BIGOD-Mel Morris,10Gen Anc.FTW]

NSFX et Ponthieu
TYPE Book
AUTH A or c:Weis, Frederick Lewis
PERI Ancestral Roots
EDTN 7th
PUBL Genealogical Publishing Co., Inc., Baltimore, MD (1999)
TEXT (108-25)
TYPE Book
AUTH Stuart, Roderick W.
PERI Royalty for Commoners
EDTN 3d
PUBL Genealogical Publishing co., Inc, Baltimore, MD (1998)
ISB 0-8063-1561-X
TEXT 148-30; 244-30; 245-30
DATE 9 MAY 2000

GIVN William Count of Alencon
SURN Talvace
NSFX **

GIVN William
SURN TALVACE
NSFX [Count of Alencon]
AFN 9FTF-W7
From Ancestral File (TM), data as of 2 January 1996.

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TITL Ancestral File (TM)
AUTH The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints
PUBL June 1998 (c), data as of 5 JAN 1998
ABBR Ancestral File (TM)
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TIME 16:19:45

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Rootsweb Feldman
URL: http://worldconnect.genealogy.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=:3044567&id=I27371
# ID: I27371
# Name: William Talvas MONTGOMERY III 1 2
# Sex: M
# Birth: 1084 in Of, Elington, Lincolnshire, England 1 2
# Death: 29 JUN 1172 1 2
# Ancestral File #: 8Q7N-54
# Change Date: 15 JAN 2004 2
# Note:

[Joanne's Tree.1 GED.GED]

2 SOUR S332582
3 DATA
4 TEXT Date of Import: 14 Jan 2004

[daveanthes.FTW]

GIVN William Talvas
SURN MONTGOMERY DESPENCER
AFN 8Q7N-54
REPO @REPO1097@
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AUTH The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints
PUBL Copyright (c) 1987, June 1998, data as of 5 January 1998
ABBR Ancestral File (R)
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OCCU Count of Ponthieu ...
SOUR Royalty for Commoners, Roderick W. Stuart, p. 181 says CIR 1090;
HAWKINS.GED says ABT 1090;www.public.asu.edu/bgertz/family says ABT 1084;
misc.traveller.com/genealogy/gedhtml/kmilburn/d0002/g0000008.htm#I2093 say1055
SOUR Royalty for Commoners, Roderick W. Stuart, p. 181 says 29 Jun 1172;
HAWKINS.GED says 30 Jun 1171;
misc.traveller.com/genealogy/gedhtml/kmilburn/d0002/g0000008.htm#I2093 say1172
SOUR Royalty for Commoners, Roderick W. Stuart
HAWKINS.GED
PAGE 108
QUAY 1
William Talvas Comet, Count of Alencon, Montreuil and Ponthieu; Alice was his
2nd wife - Royalty for Commoners, Roderick W. Stuart, p. 181

Count of Alencon and Ponthieu

Father: Robert II DE ALENCON b: ABT 1034 in Of, Perche, France
Mother: Agnes Countess Of PONTHIEU b: ABT 1050 in Normandy, France

Marriage 1 Alice Helia Countess of BURGUNDY b: ABT 1090 in Normandy, France

* Married: 1115 1 2

Children

1. Has Children Guy II Count Of PONTHIEU b: ABT 1090 in Of, Ponthieu, France
2. Has Children Adela DE TALVAS b: ABT 1110 in Of, Sussex, England
3. Has No Children Richard LE DESPENCER b: ABT 1120 in Of, Elington, Lincolnshire, England
4. Has Children Thurston DESPENCER b: ABT 1122 in London, Middlesex, england

Sources:

1. Title: daveanthes.FTW
Note: ABBR daveanthes.FTW
Note: Source Media Type: Other
Repository:
Call Number:
Media: Book
Text: Date of Import: 14 Jan 2004
2. Title: Joanne's Tree.1 GED.GED
Repository:
Call Number:
Media: Other
Text: Date of Import: Feb 6, 2004 [BIGOD-Mel Morris,10Gen Anc.FTW]

TITL Garner, Lorraine Ann "Lori"
PUBL P.O. Box 577, Bayview, ID 83803
Her sources included, but may not be limited to: Burke's Landed Gentry, Burke's Dormant & Extinct Peerage, Burke's Peerage of American Presidents, Debrett's Peerage, Oxford histories & "numerous
other reference works"
very good to excellent, although she has a tendency to follow Burke's
REPO
Hardcopy notes of Lori Garner Elmore.
CALN
MEDI Letter
DATA
TEXT William Talvas III, no parents shown
TITL Garner, Lorraine Ann "Lori"
PUBL P.O. Box 577, Bayview, ID 83803
Her sources included, but may not be limited to: Burke's Landed Gentry, Burke's Dormant & Extinct Peerage, Burke's Peerage of American Presidents, Debrett's Peerage, Oxford histories & "numerous
other reference works"
very good to excellent, although she has a tendency to follow Burke's
REPO
Hardcopy notes of Lori Garner Elmore.
CALN
MEDI Letter
PAGE Warenne
DATA
TEXT s of Robert de Bellme, no mother
TITL Ahnentafel for Margery Arundell
AUTH Marlyn Lewis
PUBL 08 Oct 1997
REPO
CALN
MEDI Manuscript
DATA
TEXT William II Count of Ponthieu & Alenon, no parents
ALIA Guillaume Talvas de Ponthieu /Ct de Alenon/
_FA1
PLAC Comte de Alenon.
TITL Ahnentafel for Margery Arundell
AUTH Marlyn Lewis
PUBL 08 Oct 1997
REPO
CALN
MEDI Manuscript
_FA2
PLAC Duc de Alenon, Comte de Ponthieu & Montreuil.

only son and heir, became Count of Ponthieu in succession to his father, probably between 4 March 1105/6, when William and his father Robert de Bellême confirmed to the abbey of Marmoutier all its possessions in all their land and in Ponthieu, and 1110 or 1111, when William alone, as Count of Ponthieu, made a gift to the abbey of Cluny. In June 1119 Henry I restored to him all his father's lands in Normandy. He resigned Ponthieu to his son Guy, in or after 1126, but before 17 October 1129, but retained the title of Count of Ponthieu. In 1135 Henry I confiscated his Norman lands, whereupon William joined Geoffrey Plantagenet, with whom he invaded Normandy after the death of Henry I.
He married Ela, widow of Bertrand, COUNT OF TOULOUSE, and daughter of Eudes BOREL, DUKE OF BURGUNDY, by Maud, sister of William TESTARD, COUNT OF BURGUNDY. He died 30 June 1171.] [Complete Peerage XI:697, (transcribed by Dave Utzinger)]

GIVN Guillaume III Duke
SURN von Alencon
REPO @REPO80@
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AUTH Brøderbund Software, Inc.
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REPO @REPO80@
TITL World Family Tree Vol. 11, Ed. 1
AUTH Brøderbund Software, Inc.
PUBL Release date: July 1, 1997
ABBR World Family Tree Vol. 11, Ed. 1
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Source Media Type: Family Archive CD
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DATA
TEXT Date of Import: 18 Dez 1998
DATE 9 SEP 2000
TIME 13:17:34

GIVN William Talvas III Count
SURN von Ponthieu
REPO @REPO109@
TITL World Family Tree Vol. 11, Ed. 1
AUTH Bräerbund Software, Inc.
PUBL Release date: July 1, 1997
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REPO @REPO109@
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DATE 9 SEP 2000
TIME 13:17:50

#Générale##Générale#Profession : Comte de Ponthieu et d'Alençon, Coseigneur deLaRoche.sur.Yon.

Ou Guillaume de Montgommery.
Relève le nom de Ponthieu, dont sa mère est héritière.

{geni:about_me} http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/NORTHERN FRANCE.htm

William de Montgomerie "de Talvas," was Count of Ponthieu, Montgomerie,Belesme and Alencon, who placed himself at the head of the affairs of hishouse during his father's imprisonment in England. Uniting in himself hisfather's larg

Also known as Talvas le Despenser

William I and Telvas are another source other than Ancestral File.

"TALVAS" IS A NICKNAME, NOT A SURNAME

Ancestral File Number: 8Q7N-54

Line 1226 from GEDCOM File not recognizable or too long:

Line 8658 from GEDCOM File not recognizable or too long:

COUNT OF POITHEU; COUNT OF ALENCON

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William III of Ponthieu (c. 1095-20 June 1172), son of Robert II of Bellême and Agnes of Ponthieu. He is also called William (II; III) Talvas.

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