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Personal data Welf II van Altdorf 

• He was born about 965.
• Title: Graaf, van Altdorf en Lechrain
• He died on March 10, 1030.
• A child of Rudolf II van Altdorf and Itha van Öhningen

Household of Welf II van Altdorf

He is married to Irmentrude van Luxemburg.

They got married

Child(ren):

1. Kunigunde der Welfen  ????-< 1055 
2. Ita van Altdorf  ± 1025-± 1105 

Notes about Welf II van Altdorf

WELF [II] (-10 Mar 1030, bur Altdorf). The Genealogia Welforum names "Heinricum, qui apud Lonon in venatione saxo percussis interiit, et Gwelfum huius nominis primum" as sons of Rudolf and Ita, specifying that he was buried at Weingarten[1837]. The Historia Welforum names (in order) "Heinricum et Guelfonem et filiam Richgardam" as the children of "Roudolfus" & his wife[1838]. The Annalista Saxo names "Welphum comitem" as son of Rudolf (brother of Eticho/Welf and Konrad, although this appears difficult to sustain chronologically)[1839]. Graf von Altdorf. Graf im Nori- und Inntal. "Heinricus…Romanorum imperator augustus" renewed the privileges of Kloster Fulda by undated charter, placed in the compilation with other charters dated 1020, witnessed by "Godifridi ducis, Berinhardi ducis, Thiederici ducis, Welphonis comitis, Cunonis comitis, Kunrati comitis, Ottonis comitis, Adilbrahtis comitis, Bobonis comitis, Friderici comitis, Bezilini comitis, Ezonis comitis palatini"[1840], the order of witnesses presumably giving some idea of the relative importance of these named nobles at the court of Emperor Heinrich II at the time. A codex of Kloster Weingarten records that "dux Welfo…cum uxore sua Irmindrude…de Glizberc" transferred Kloster Altorf "super montem"[1841]. His county around the Brenner pass was confiscated by Emperor Konrad II as a punishment for Welf having supported Ernst Duke of Swabia in his rebellion in 1030[1842]. He built the castle of Ravensburg on his Swabian lands which became the family's chief residence[1843]. The necrology of Weingarten records the death "VI Id Mar" of "Ruodolfus com frater sancti Chuonradi…et Welf filius eius…hic sepulti"[1844].

m ([1015]) IRMTRUD [Imiza], daughter of [FRIEDRICH Graf im Moselgau] [Wigeriche] & his wife --- [von Hammerstein] [Konradiner] (-21 Aug [1055], bur Altomünster). The Historia Welforum names "de gente Salica de castro Glizberch, Imizam…sororem Heinrici ducis Noricorum et Friderici ducis Lotharingiorum et Adilberonis episcopi Metensis" as wife of "Guelfo…Roudolfi filius"[1845]. The Genealogia Welforum names "Salice --- de Glizperch Imizam nomine, Heinrici Noricorum ducis sororem et Friderici ducis Lotharingorum et Alberonis Metensis episcopi" as wife of Welf, specifying that she was buried at Altenmünster and that her dowry was "villam Moringen et Elisinam curtem in Longobardia"[1846]. Irmtrud´s father is shown above in square brackets to indicate doubt: there is some possibility that she was born from an earlier marriage of her mother´s, explained further in the document HESSEN. If that is correct, she was IRMTRUD [Imiza] daughter of --- von Gleiberg & his wife --- [von Hammerstein]. Jordan suggests that the land in Lombardy was probably near Este[1847], which could explain their daughter's marriage as her husband may have been a neighbouring landowner. After the death of her son, she contested his will under which he bequeathed all his property to the convent of Weingarten, and summoned her grandson from Italy to assume the inheritance in Swabia and Bavaria. The nuns of Weingarten were resettled in Altomünster in Bavaria, relocating the monks to Weingarten as part of the settlement of the dispute[1848]. A codex of Kloster Weingarten records that "dux Welfo…cum uxore sua Irmindrude…de Glizberc" transferred Kloster Altorf "super montem"[1849]. Herimannus names "Irmengarda, Welf comitis vidua" when recording the transfer to her of Altdorf by the monks[1850]. The necrology of Weingarten records the death "XII Kal Sep" of "Irmindruot com que et Imiza mater Welfonis et Chuonize"[1851].

Welf [II] & his wife had [three] children:
WELF [III] (-Burg Bodman 13 Nov 1055).
KUNIGUNDE ([1020]-31 Mar before 1055, bur Vangadizza Monastery).
KONRAD (-27 Aug 1031)

Bronnen:

[1837] Genealogia Welforum 4, MGH SS XIII, p. 734. 

[1838] Historia Welforum Weingartensis 6, MGH SS XXI, p. 460. 

[1839] Annalista Saxo 1126. 

[1840] D H II 427, p. 542. 

[1841] Württembergisches Urkundenbuch, Band IV, Anhang, Zwei Weingartner Codices, II, B, p. XLIX. 

[1842] Jordan (1986), p. 4. 

[1843] Jordan (1986), p. 4. 

[1844] Necrologium Weingartense, Konstanz Necrologies, p. 221. 

[1845] Historia Welforum Weingartensis 8, MGH SS XXI, p. 460. 

[1846] Genealogia Welforum 7, MGH SS XIII, p. 734, footnote 20 interpreting the first place as "Möhring" near Friedberg in Bavaria. 

[1847] Jordan (1986), pp. 3-4. 

[1848] Jordan (1986), p. 4. 

[1849] Württembergisches Urkundenbuch, Band IV, Anhang, Zwei Weingartner Codices, II, B, p. XLIX. 

[1850] Herimanni Augiensis Chronicon 1036, MHG SS V, p. 122. 

[1851] Necrologium Weingartense, Konstanz Necrologies, p. 221. 

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