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Personal data Giselbert I van de Maasgau 

• He was born about 825.
• Title: Graaf, van de Maasgouw
• He died after September 6, 885.
• A child of Giselbert I van de Bidgouw and Bertswinda van Haspengau

Household of Giselbert I van de Maasgau

He is married to Nn der Karolingen.

They got married

Child(ren):

1. Reinier I van Henegouwen  ± 850-± 915 

Notes about Giselbert I van de Maasgau

GISELBERT [I], son of --- (-after 14 Jun 877, maybe after 6 Sep 885). Giselbert's origin is unknown. However, Viking connections are suggested by his supposed son's name, similar to the Nordic "Ragnar", especially bearing in mind the increasing number of Viking raids south of Frisia after [825/30] and Frankish concessions of territory in the low countries to Danish leaders[1479]. Another possibility is that Giselbert was related to Reginar [Reginhere] son of Meginhere. Graf von Maasgau. Nithard names "Giselbert count of the Maasgau" ("comes Mansuariorum") as one of the supporters of Charles II "le Chauve" King of the West Franks against his half-brother Emperor Lothaire[1480]. He was obliged to leave his county, attributed to him by Emperor Lothaire after the treaty of Verdun in 843[1481]. Giselbert supported Pépin King of Aquitaine, but after the latter fell from power found refuge with Ludwig II "der Deutsche" King of the East Franks. He abducted and married Emperor Lothaire's daughter without her father's consent (see below), but was finally pardoned by the emperor in 849 and authorised to return to his lands. An agreement between Charles II "le Chauve" and his brother Ludwig II "der Deutsche" dated Jun 860 names "nobilis ac fidelibus laicis…Gislebertus…"[1482]. Comte in Darnau: "Ansfridus…comes…et Hildiwardus filius meus" donated property "in pago Darnau, in marca vel villa Sodoia…super fluvium Geldiun, in comitatu Giselberti" to Lorsch by charter dated 5 Oct 863[1483]. An agreement dated 14 Jun 877 of Emperor Charles II "le Chauve", presumably written with his own death in mind, names "Arnulfus comes, Gislebertus, Letardus, Matfridus, Widricus, Gotbertus, Adalbertus, Ingelgerus, Rainerus" as those willing to support the emperor's son if he travels across the Meuse[1484]. Emperor Karl III granted property "in pago Condruscio…Alnith" to "Gislebertus…comes…fidelis suis Teodone" by charter dated 6 Sep 885[1485]. Although it is not certain that this refers to Count Giselbert [I], no other contemporary individual of the same name has so far been identified.

m (Aquitaine 846) --- of Lotharingia, daughter of Emperor LOTHAIRE I & his wife Ermengarde de Tours ([825/30]-). The Gesta Francorum records that "Gisalbertus, vassallus Karoli" abducted "filiam Hlotharii imperatoris" and took her to Aquitaine where they were married[1486]. The Annales Fuldenses also record that "Gisalbertus vassallus Karoli" abducted "filiam Hlotharii imperatoris" and married her in Aquitaine in 846[1487]. The Annales Mettenses also date this event in 846[1488]. Settipani states that the emperor recognised the marriage in 849[1489]. Rösch says that this daughter is often named Ermengarde but that there is no contemporary proof that this is correct[1490]. Count

Giselbert [I] & his wife had [two] children:
REGINAR [I] "Langhals/Longneck" ([850]-Meerssen [25 Aug 915/19 Jan 916]).
ALBERT ([860]-after [928/36])

Bronnen:

[1479] McKitterick, p. 230.

[1480] Scholz, B. W. with Rogers, B. (2000) Carolingian Chronicles: Royal Frankish Annals and Nithard's Histories (University of Michigan Press) (“Nithard”), III.2, p. 158.

[1481] Settipani, C. and Kerrebrouck, P. van (1993) La préhistoire des Capétiens 481-987, 1ère partie, Mérovingiens, Carolingiens et Robertiens (Villeneuve d'Ascq), p. 264.

[1482] Adnuntatio domni Karoli, MGH LL 1, p. 469.

[1483] Chronicon Laureshamense, MGH SS XXI, p. 370.

[1484] Karoli II Imp. Conventus Carisiacensis, MGH LL 1, p. 537.

[1485] D Karl 130, p. 208, headed "verunechtet" in the compilation.

[1486] Gesta quorundam regum Francorum 846, MGH SS I, p. 364.

[1487] Annales Fuldensium Pars Secunda, auctore Euodolfo 846, MGH SS I, p. 364.

[1488] Annales Mettenses, RHGF VII, p. 186.

[1489] Settipani (1993), p. 264.

[1490] Rösch (1977), p. 89.

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