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Personal data Torquatius or Tortulfus (Tortulfe) "Torcuato" de Rennes 

  • Nickname is Torcuato.
  • He was born about 800 in Rennes, Brittany, FranceRennes, Brittany.
  • He died about 853 in Rennes, Ille-et-Vilaine, Brittany, France.
  • A child of Lucius Torquatus and Murcia
  • This information was last updated on October 26, 2011.

Household of Torquatius or Tortulfus (Tortulfe) "Torcuato" de Rennes

He had a relationship with Aldenne de Vermandois.


Child(ren):

  1. Tertullus de Gâtinais  ± 823-± 870 


Notes about Torquatius or Tortulfus (Tortulfe) "Torcuato" de Rennes

{geni:occupation} Forest, hunter, forestier de Louis le Débonnaire puis de Charles le Chauve
{geni:about_me} '''Torquat''', who may also have been known as '''Tortlfe''' or '''Torquatius/Tortulfus''', is a legendary figure, not appearing in any known contemporary records. He should not be considered historical. He is named in the ''Gesta Consulum Andegavorum'' and the ''Historia Comitum Andegavorum'', which say he was from Amorica Gallia and that he was a forester for Charles the Bald.

From the Foundation for Medievel Genealogy page on Anjou:

http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/ANJOU,%20MAINE.htm

INTRODUCTION

The county of Anjou was the successor of the pagus Andegavensis or Andecavus, the territory being called by the latter name in a charter of Charles II "le Chauve" King of the West Franks dated 17 Sep 848 which is included in the cartulary of the cathedral of St Maurice, Angers[1].

The Anjou area was under Merovingian and Carolingian Frankish rule until 849, when Nominoë Duke of Brittany captured Angers and pushed his territorial acquisitions as far as Le Mans and Blois[2]. The Annales Bertiniani record the attack on "Andegavis" by "Nomenogius Brito" in 849[3]. Duke Nominoë died in 851 and the precise fate of the territory around Angers under his immediate successor is unclear. However, a document issued by King Charles II dated Nov 853 names "Dodo episcopus, Hrotbertus et Osbertus" as missi in "Cinnomannio, Andegavensi, atque Turonico, Corboniso, et Sagiso"[4], which suggests that the West Frankish king regained control.

The area also suffered Viking raids: the Annales Bertiniani record that "piratæ Nortmannorum" sailed up the Loire in 854 and burned "civitatem Andegavorum"[5]. Difficulties with the Bretons persisted as the Annales Bertiniani record that "Rodbertus" attacked "Salomone duce" [duke of Brittany] in 862[6]. The Annales record that King Charles II´s son, the future King Louis II "le Bègue", rebelled against his father in 862 and, heading an army of Bretons, defeated "Rotbertum patris fidelem" in 862 and burned Angers yet again[7].

The creation of the "march" of Anjou is probably dated to the early 860s, as the Annales Bertiniani name "Rodberto, qui marchio in Andegavo fuerat" in 865[8]. However, this change of jurisdictional status must have been insufficient to control the Bretons and the Vikings as the mention of Robert in the Annales in 865 appears in the context of King Charles II imposing direct rule in the area by sending "Hludowicum filium suum" into "Neustriam" and granting him "comitatum Andegavensem et abbatiam Maioris-monasterii et quasdam villas illi", while Robert was compensated with "comitatum Autissiodorensem et comitatum Nivernensem".

Between 866 and the late 920s, the history of the county of Anjou is obscure and the record of the succession of counts incomplete and imprecise. The Chronicle of Saint-Serge records that Charles II "le Chauve" King of the West Franks recaptured Angers in 872, adding that, following the deaths of "Robertum Andegavorum comitem, Ranulphum Pictavorum comitem", the Vikings occupied the town[9]. The Chronicle of Saint-Aubin dates the same event to 873[10].

Neither source specifies who was appointed as comte d´Anjou at that time. The Historia Comitum Andegavorum records that Louis II "le Bègue" King of the West Franks, therefore dated to [877/79], granted "dimidium Andegavis comitatum" to "Ingelgerius"[11]. It does not state who was granted the other half of the county, but says that "Fulco Rufus secundus comes, filius Ingelgerii" was granted "integrum comitatum Andegavensium et abbatias Sancti Albini et Sancti Sergii" in 912[12]. The Gesta Consulum Andegavorum records that "Ingelgerius Gastinensis comes…Lochiæ et Ambaziæ dominus" acquired "Andegavensem consulatum" (undated) and that he was succeeded by "filius eius Fulco…cognominatus…Rufus", adding in a later passage that Foulques held "integrum comitatum Andegavensium" which had previously been divided into two parts[13].

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[TORQUATIUS [Tortulfus] . The Gesta Consulum Andegavorum names "vir quidam de Armorica Gallia nomine Torquatius…Tortulfus dictus fuit", recording that "genus eius olim ab Armorica iussu Maximi Imperatoris a Britonibus expulsum est"[25]. The Historia Comitum Andegavorum specifies that Charles II "le Chauve" King of the West Franks granted Torquatius "forestæ qua Nidus Merulæ…forestarum constituit"[26]. The name Torquatius/Tortulfus does not have a convincing ring about it. It is possible that he was not a historical person.]

m ---. The name of Torquatius's wife is not known.

[Torquatius & his wife had one child:]

1. [TERTULLUS .
*The Gesta Consulum Andegavorum records that "Torquatus sive Tortulfus genuit Tertullum", recording that he was granted property by Charles II "le Chauve" King of the West Franks[27]. "Tertullus" is no more convincing than "Tortulfus" as the name of a historical figure in north-west France in the mid-9th century. As is the case with his supposed father, it is probable that Tertullus was not a historical person.
*m PETRONILLA, daughter of --- Duke of Burgundy & his wife ---.
*The Gesta Consulum Andegavorum records the marriage of "Tertullus nobilem dux" and "ducis Burgundiæ filiam nomine Petronillam"[28]. The Chronico Turonensi names "Ingelgerius comes Andergavensis", the couple's son, as "nepos Hugonis Ducis Burgundiæ"[29]. The Gesta Consulum Andegavorum names "Ingelgerius…filius eius Fulco cognominatus Rufus", recording that "Hugo Dux Burgundiæ, filius alterius Hugonis" was "ex parte matris suæ [Fulco] consanguineus"[30]. The context suggests that "matris suæ" refers to Foulques, although according to other sources the connection was through the mother of Ingelger.
*No other record has been found of any dukes of Burgundy who could have been related to Petronilla. As with her husband, it is probable that Petronilla and her father were not historical persons.

Tertullus & his wife had one child:] (two are listed): Ingelger (d. 888, bur. Châteauneuf, église Saint-Martin) and Foulques (d. after 5 July 905).

References:

*[1] Urseau, C. (ed.) (1908) Cartulaire noir de la cathédrale d'Angers (Paris, Angers) (“Angers”) 8, p. 21.
*[2] Espinay, G. d´ (1864) Les cartulaires angevins (Angers), p. 6.
*[3] Annales Bertiniani 849, MGH SS I, p. 444.
*[4] Karoli II Conventus Silvacensis, Missi…et pagi… 8, MGH LL 1, p. 426.
*[5] Annales Bertiniani 854, MGH SS I, p. 449.
*[6] Annales Bertiniani 862, MGH SS I, p. 456.
*[7] Annales Bertiniani 862, MGH SS I, p. 457.
*[8] Annales Bertiniani 865, MGH SS I, p. 470.
*[9] Marchegay, P. and Mabille, E. (eds.) (1869) Chroniques des Eglises d'Anjou (Paris) Chronicon sancti Sergii Andegavensis, p. 132.
*[10] Chroniques des Eglises d'Anjou, Chronicæ sancti Albini Andegavensis, p. 19.
*[11] Marchegay, P. and Salmon, A. (eds.) (1856) Chroniques d'Anjou Tome I (Paris), Historia comitum Andegavensium, p. 320.
*[12] Chroniques d'Anjou Tome I, Historia comitum Andegavensium, p. 320.
*[13] Chroniques d'Anjou Tome I, Chronica de Gesta Consulum Andegavorum, pp. 54, 63, and 65.
*[14] Chroniques d'Anjou Tome I, Chronica de Gesta Consulum Andegavorum, pp. 87-8, and Historia Comitum Andegavorum, p. 320.
*[25] Chronica de Gesta Consulum Andegavorum, Chroniques d'Anjou, p. 35.
*[26] Historia Comitum Andegavorum, Chroniques d'Anjou, p. 319.
*[27] Chronica de Gesta Consulum Andegavorum, Chroniques d'Anjou, p. 36.
*[28] Chronica de Gesta Consulum Andegavorum, Chroniques d'Anjou, p. 36, footnote 3 noting that 2 mss record her as "consanguinea" not "filia".
*[29] Chronico Turonensi, RHGF IX, p. 47.
*[30] Gestis Consulum Andegavensium, RHGF IX, p. 29.
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NOTE infomation on this person is CONTRADICITING onetime listed as male nex time listed as female????
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Tertulle, Count of ANJOU, son of Torquat de Rennes, was born about 821 in Rennes, Anjou, France. He married Petronilla about 844 in Anjou, France.
http://www.boydhouse.com/alice/Green/SalisburyTwentySeventhGeneration.htm
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Torquat Tortulfe DE RENNES
Father: Hugh II "le Magfiant" of TOURS
Mother: Ava Bava of TOURS
Birth: ABT 0800

http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~wjhonson/Royals/GED2WEB/people/p000008o.htm
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Torquat (Tortulfe) De and were married in a religious ceremony about 0820 in Of, , Anjou, France. They have a son named Tertulle, Count Of.

http://familytrees.genopro.com/454373/Roelofs/RENNES-TorquatTortulfeDe-I2030.htm
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Torquat (Tortulfe) De RENNES
Birth Abt 800 - 808 Of, Rennes, Anjou, France
Gender Female
Family Count Hugh De BOURGES,
b. 797, Centre, France ,
d. 840
Children
1. Count Tertulle D' ANJOU, b. Abt 823, Of, Rennes, Anjou, France
2. Adele De BOURGES, b. Abt 853
http://larryvoyer.com/genealogy/getperson.php?personID=I137751&tree=v7_28
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NameHugues Count of Bourges
Birthabt 802, France
Deathaft 853
FatherHugh III Count of Tours (~765-836)
MotherBava (Ava) (~779->837)
Spouses
1Torquat Tortulft de Rennes
ChildrenStephen (~830-864)
Tertullus Count of Gatenais

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Born: 800, Rennes, Ille-et-Vilaine, Bretagne, France

http://www.celtic-casimir.com/webtree/3/37126.htm
_P_CCINFO 1-2782
BIOGRAPHY: Torquat (Tortulfe) de RENNES (0800-) [Pedigree]
b. Abt 0800, Rennes, Anjou, France

BIOGRAPHY: Children:

BIOGRAPHY: Tertulle the Breton Count d'Anjou Seneschal of the Gatinais (821-) m. Petronille of Andech Countess d'Anjou (825-)
References: [GENSERV],[RFC],[RoyalAAF]
SOURCE NOTES:
http://uts.cc.utexas.edu/~churchh/edw3chrt.html

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Ancestors (and descendant) of Torquatius or Tortulfus (Tortulfe) de Rennes

Lucius Torquatus
± 760-± 820
Murcia
± 765-????

Torquatius or Tortulfus (Tortulfe) de Rennes
± 800-± 853



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