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Personal data Renaud (Réginald) de Courtenay Seigneur de Courtenay 

• He was born about 1105 TO ABT 1123 in Courtenay, Loiret, FranceCourtenay, Loiret.
• He was christened in 9fpm-T9.
• Alternative: He was christened in 9fpm-Nf.
• Baptized (at 8 years of age or later) by the priesthood authority of the LDS church on November 1, 1930.
• Alternative: Baptized (at 8 years of age or later) by the priesthood authority of the LDS church on November 1, 1930.
• Alternative: Baptized (at 8 years of age or later) by the priesthood authority of the LDS church on November 1, 1930.
• Alternative: Baptized (at 8 years of age or later) by the priesthood authority of the LDS church on November 1, 1930.
• Alternative: Baptized (at 8 years of age or later) by the priesthood authority of the LDS church on November 1, 1930.
• Alternative: Baptized (at 8 years of age or later) by the priesthood authority of the LDS church on November 1, 1930.
• Alternative: Baptized (at 8 years of age or later) by the priesthood authority of the LDS church on November 1, 1930.
• Alternative: Baptized (at 8 years of age or later) by the priesthood authority of the LDS church on November 1, 1930.
• Alternative: Baptized (at 8 years of age or later) by the priesthood authority of the LDS church on November 1, 1930.
• Occupations:
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  {geni:job_title} Sieur, de Courtenay, de Montargis, de Tanlay, de Champignelles, de Chamy, Baron, de Sutton

• in of Sutton, Berks., England.
• .
• He died about 1160 TO ABT 1190 in Sutton Courtenay, Berkshire, England.
• He is buried about 1194 TO ABT 1194 in Ford Abbey, Devon, England.
• A child of Miles (Milo) de Courtenay and Ermengarde de Nevers
• This information was last updated on January 21, 2012.

Household of Renaud (Réginald) de Courtenay Seigneur de Courtenay

He is married to Hélène ou Élisabeth du Donjon de Corbeil.

They got married about 1130.

Child(ren):

1. Elizabeth (Isabelle) de Courtenay  ± 1135-1225 

Notes about Renaud (Réginald) de Courtenay Seigneur de Courtenay

Name Suffix: Lord

Name Suffix: Lord

Lord of Courtenay; accompanied Louis VII of France on the Second Crusade but quarreled with him so that Louis seized his French possessions and bestowed them, with Renaud's daughter (Elizabeth) in marriage, on his (Louis') own younger brother Pierre; Renaud subsequently threw in his lot with the English kings and was granted the Lordship of Sutton (now Sutton Courtenay), on the Berks-Oxon borders by Henry II 1161; accompanied Henry II to Wexford in the Irish expedition of 1172; married 1st Hedwige (living 1148-58), sister of Guy du Donjon; married 2nd Maud, Dame du Sap (dsp 1224), daughter of Robert Fitz Roy (illegitimate son of Henry I of England) by his wife Maud d'Avranches. [Burke's Peerage] Note: I consider there to be two Renaud de Courtenay's: Renaud I married Hedwige du Donjon and his son, Renaud II married 1st Hawise Deincourt and 2nd Maud du Sap (dsp 1224).
of Sutton, Berkshire, England; Sire de Courtenay; exiled 1150. [Roderick W. Stuart, Royalty for Commoners, 3rd ed., Genealogical Publishing Company, Baltimore MD, 1998]
The story is told that the great possesions in France of Renaud de Courtenay (a man of high social rank and described in personal terms as in effect a glorified bandit) were seized abt 1150 by King Louis VII who granted them to his own youngest brother, Pierre (ancestor of the French Courtenays), with Renaud's daughter, Elizabeth, in marriage, and that Renaud then appeared in England as a minor functionary of the English Court with a small manor and another family. [Ancestral Roots, Frederick Weis, line 138]
Ancestral Roots also discounts Renaud II being the son of Milo (ie. Renaud I and Renaud II in my genalogy, which AR seems to consider the same person) because of dates and social standings, but does not seem to address the possibility of a Reginald [d. 1194 - line 138-25), son of Renaud II (d. 1190 - line 138-24), son of Renaud I (d. 1161 - line 107-24), son of Milo [d. 1127 - line 107-23).
Since according to Burke, Elizabeth's marriage was 1150, Renaud lost his French lands and went to England on or about 1150. His children were born in France, while he still had possession of his French estates

Renaud de Courtenay, Seigneur de Courtenay was the son of Miles de Courtenay, Seigneur de Courtenay and Ermengarde de Nevers.1 He married, secondly, Maud FitzRoy, Dame du Sap, daughter of Robert FitzEdith, Baron of Okenhampton and Matilda d'Avranches, Dame du Sap.1 He married, firstly, Hedwige de Donjon, daughter of Frederick de Donjon, Seigneur de Donjon.1 He died circa 1192.1
Renaud de Courtenay, Seigneur de Courtenay gained the title of Seigneur de Courtenay.1 He fought in the Second Crusade, with King Loius VII of France.1 He quarrelled with King Louis VII, who seized Renaud's French possessions and gave them along with Renaud's daughter Elizabeth to his younger brother, Pierre.1 He was created Lord of Sutton [feudal baron] in 1161.1 In 1172 he accompanied King Henry II in the Irish Expedition to County Wexford.1
Children of Renaud de Courtenay, Seigneur de Courtenay and Hedwige de Donjon
Renaud de Courtenay+ d. 27 Sep 11941
Robert de Courtenay+ d. 12091
Elizabeth de Courtenay+ d. a 12052
Citations
[S37] Charles Mosley, editor, Burke's Peerage, Baronetage & Knightage, 107th edition, 3 volumes (Wilmington, Delaware, U.S.A.: Burke's Peerage (Genealogical Books) Ltd, 2003), volume 1, page 1122. Hereinafter cited as Burke's Peerage and Baronetage, 107th edition.
[S16] Jirí Louda and Michael MacLagan, Lines of Succession: Heraldry of the Royal Families of Europe, 2nd edition (London, U.K.: Little, Brown and Company, 1999), table 64. Hereinafter cited as Lines of Succession.

Reginald set out for the Holy Land with Louis VII, King of France in 1 147, but returned home very soon. He went to England with Henry II i n 1151, being the first of his family to settle there and through hism arriage obtained large estates in Devonshire.

[David Collyer 6-11-96] 'I've been
ploughing through your ancient6 gedcom and discovered that you have
omitted a generation. Note that there are two consecutive generations
where a Renaud De C. marries a Hawise. If you read through the
following, you will see that demonstrated. Neither of my two 'Hawise'
women appear to have any connection with the name d'ABINSIS which
yours has My info has come from the Royal Pedigrees from the
University of Hull on the WWW.
.... Fifth Generation 5.Renaud (Reginald) De COURTENAY (4.Milo4 ,
3.Josselin3 , 2.Athon2 , 1.Renaud1) b. 1100, Occ: Sire De Courtenay, m.
Hawise De DONJON, b. 1113, (daughter of Frederic De DONJON and Female
UNKNOWN). Renaud died 1161. Went on the Crusades with King Louis VI of
France in 1147. They quarrelled on their return, so Renaud went to
England where he was received with great favour by Henry II who
granted him in 1161 the manor of Sutton in Devon. Children:
6. i Isabelle Elizabeth De COURTENAY b.
1148. 7. ii Renaud De COURTENAY.......'

{geni:occupation} LORD OF COURTENAY, Sieur, de Courtenay, de Montargis, de Tanlay, de Champignelles, de Chamy, Baron, de Sutton, Seigneur de Courtenay, Castellan of Exeter, Seigneur

{geni:about_me} ==Renauld (Reginald) I de Courtenay==

Born: Unknown
Died: Unknown

Father: Milon de Courtenay
Mother: Elizabeth de Nevers

Spouse:
(1) '''Maud FitzRobert FitzRoy''' (NOT her half-sister Hawise d'Avranches, as often reported--Hawise married Rainaud/Reginald II. Cawley's Medieval Lands database is incorrect regarding this family). Maud died in 1124 childless.
(2) '''Helvis de Donjon''' who was mother to his children:

Issue:
Guillaume,
Renaud/Reginald II
Elizabeth,
Robert

http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/CHAMPAGNE%20NOBILITY.htm

RENAUD de Courtenay (-27 Sep [1189/94]). A charter dated to [1120/39] records donations for the foundation of the abbey of Notre-Dame des Echarlis, including a donation in the presence of "Milo de Curtiniaco et uxor eius Elisabeth et filii eorum Willelmus, Joscelinus, Rainaldus". Sire de Courtenay. Burke´s Peerage records that Louis VII King of France quarrelled with Renaud while on the Second Crusade, confiscated his French possessions, and bestowed them on his younger brother Pierre whom he married to Renaud´s daughter Elisabeth. The same source records that Henry II King of England granted him the lordship of Sutton, Berkshire in 1161. "…Raginaldo de Cortenaio" subscribed the charter dated to [1169] under which Henry II King of England confirmed the donation of revenue from "manerio de Contona" [Compton] to Fontevraud by "Willelmus de Sancto Johanne et Robertus frater suus". The Fundationis et Fundatorum Historia of Ford Abbey records the death “V Kal Oct 1194” of “Reginaldus de Courtenay”. m firstly HELVIS de Donjon, daughter of FREDERIC de Donjon & his wife ---. Her parentage and marriage are shown in Europäische Stammtafeln, but the primary source on which this is based has not yet been identified. m secondly HAWISE d´Avranches, daughter of ROBERT d´Avranches & his wife Mathilde Avenill (-1 Aug 1209). The Fundationis et Fundatorum Historia of Ford Abbey records that “domina Alicia uxor domini Randolphi Avenell filia sua…unicam filiam…Matildam” had “filiam unam…Hawisiam, necnon duas alias, postea factas moniales” by her husband “Roberto de Abrincis” and that she married “Reginaldo de Courtenay” as his second wife. According to Burke´s Peerage, the second wife of Renaud de Courtenay was "Maud Dame du Sap, daughter of Robert FitzRoy by his w Maud d´Avranches". However, this appears to confuse her with the wife of Guillaume de Courtenay, eldest son of Renaud by his first marriage, assuming that the primary sources correctly record the relationships which are shown here. Renaud & his first wife had three children, Guillaume, Renaud, and Elizabeth. Renaud & his second wife had one child, Robert.
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The family of Renaud de COURTENAY and .. du DONJON
[129216] COURTENAY (de), Renaud (..)
* married about 1125, from .. (France)
DONJON (du), .. (..)
1) Élisabeth, married about 1152 Pierre I de FRANCE

Bibliographie : Histoire de la maison royale de France (Père Anselme)

http://www.francogene.com/quebec--genealogy/129/129216.php

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He fought in the Second Crusade with King Louis VII of France.
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Royal Titles: Seigneur of Courtenay, Seigneur De Montargtis, Baron of Sutton

of Sutton, Berkshire, England; Sire de Courtenay; exiled 1150. [RoderickW. Stuart, Royalty for Commoners, 3rd ed., Genealogical PublishingCompany, Baltimore MD, 1998]

_P_CCINFO 1-20792
Original individual @I20460@ (@MS_NHFETTERLYFAMIL0@) merged with @I15412@ (@MS_NHFETTERLYFAMIL0@)

OR "RAINOLD""REGINALD""OF SUTTON, BERKSHIRE"; SIRE DE COURTENAY, MONTARGIS AND
CHATEAU RENARD; SEIGNEUR DE COURTENAY; EXILED 1150

!SOURCES:
1. Tableaux Genealogiques des Souverains, France 22, Tab. 35
2. The Complete Peerage, G.E.C., Eng. V, v. 3, p. 465, v. 4, p. 317
3. Collins Peerage, Eng. Z-1, v. 6, p. 232-36
4. Edmondson's Baronagum Genealogicum, Eng. AM, v. 4, p. 340
5. Visitations of Devon, Devon 2, p. 243
6. The Plantagenet Ancestry, Eng. 116, p. 59
!RESEARCH NOTES:
1. It is known the above wife was a sister of Guy du Donjon. See notation onfamily group sheet of Milo de Courtenay, above husband's father. There is somequestion whether the above couple actually had a daughter who married Avelon.

!SOURCES:
1. Tableaux Genealogiques des Souverains, France 22, Tab. 35
2. The Complete Peerage, G.E.C., Eng. V, v. 3, p. 465, v. 4, p. 317
3. Collins Peerage, Eng. Z-1, v. 6, p. 232-36
4. Edmondson's Baronagum Genealogicum, Eng. AM, v. 4, p. 340
5. Visitations of Devon, Devon 2, p. 243
6. The Plantagenet Ancestry, Eng. 116, p. 59
!RESEARCH NOTES:
1. It is known the above wife was a sister of Guy du Donjon. See notation on family group sheet of Milo de Courtenay, above husband's father. There is some question whether the above couple actually had a daughter who married Avelon.

!SOURCES:
1. Tableaux Genealogiques des Souverains, France 22, Tab. 35
2. The Complete Peerage, G.E.C., Eng. V, v. 3, p. 465, v. 4, p. 317
3. Collins Peerage, Eng. Z-1, v. 6, p. 232-36
4. Edmondson's Baronagum Genealogicum, Eng. AM, v. 4, p. 340
5. Visitations of Devon, Devon 2, p. 243
6. The Plantagenet Ancestry, Eng. 116, p. 59
!RESEARCH NOTES:
1. It is known the above wife was a sister of Guy du Donjon. See notation onfamily group sheet of Milo de Courtenay, above husband's father. There is somequestion whether the above couple actually had a daughter who married Avelon.

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