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Personal data Judith "Jhutte Von Shulichgau" im Sülichgau Duchess of Bavaria 

• Nickname is Jhutte Von Shulichgau.
• She was born in the year 894Germany.
• Title: Grafin
• Profession: .
• She died between August 27, 923 and 935Germany.
• A child of Eberhard von Sülichen and Gisela di Verona
• This information was last updated on June 2, 2019.

Household of Judith "Jhutte Von Shulichgau" im Sülichgau Duchess of Bavaria

She has/had a relationship with Arnulf.

Child(ren):

1. Eberhard von Bayern  ± 912-± 955 

Notes about Judith "Jhutte Von Shulichgau" im Sülichgau Duchess of Bavaria

{geni:about_me} Her ancestry is unknown. There are several theories about her ancestry:

# She was a daughter of [http://www.geni.com/people/Eberhard-von-S%C3%BClichen/6000000024544681170 Eberhard, Graf im Sülichen]

# She was a daughter of Burkhard von Ratisbonne

# She was a daughter of Eberhard di Friuli [this is not likely due to a huge age gap]

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Medieval historians Peter Stewart and Todd Farmerie weigh in:

From: taf ((XXXXX@XXXX.XXX))
Subject: Re: Eberhard di Friuli vs Eberhard von Sulichgau
Date: Sat, 10 Sep 2011 15:42:38 -0700 (PDT)
References: ((XXXXX@XXXX.XXX))

On Sep 10, 10:37 am, Pam Wilson ((XXXXX@XXXX.XXX)) wrote:
> Another disambiguation--am trying to wade through a jumble of sources
> to determine if Eberhard Marchese di Friuli vs Eberhard graf von
> Sulichgau were indeed the same person or were different persons.
> Adding to the confusion are wives both named Gisela and daughters
> named Judith.
>
> Concomitantly is the question: are Judith di Friuli and Judith im
> Sülichgau the same? I have found many sources claiming them to be the
> same, though I have also found conflicting death dates. In a 4 Jul
> 2001 post on this list (http://listsearches.rootsweb.com/th/read/GEN-
> MEDIEVAL/2001-07/0994206392), Peter Stewart wrote:
>
> "The Judith who was a daughter of Margrave Eberhard of Friuli and
> Gisela of Francia was born ca 838 & died 863. She married in 852 as
> his first wife the East Frankish Count Heinrich, margrave in Frisia
> (born 830, killed in battle near Paris 20 August 886).
>
> The other Judith who in ca 910 married Arnulf der Böse, duke of
> Bavaria (born ca 885/90, died 14 July 937) was a daughter of Eberhard,
> count in the Sülichgau & Gisela, whose exact parentage is not
> established. Arnulf tried unsuccessfully to assert this Judith's
> rights to the Lombard throne."

These are two completely different families, in completely different
countries and living at different times. The names are just
coincidence.

taf

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Or born 900.

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