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Personal data Rainard "Raoul" de Woëvre Comte de Bar-sur-Seine 

  • Nickname is Raoul.
  • He was born before 93010110 Bar Sur Seine
    Grand Est France.
  • Profession: Comte de Bar-sur-Seine, Seigneur de Woevre, Comte de Bar de Bar-sur-seine de Woevre.
  • He died in the year 997.
  • A child of Raoul II 'Ralph' or Rainard de Bar-sur-Seine and Ève de Bassigny
  • This information was last updated on May 13, 2020.

Household of Rainard "Raoul" de Woëvre Comte de Bar-sur-Seine

He is married to Eve de Chaumont.

They got married in the year 956.


Child(ren):

  1. Ermengarde NN  966-1018 


Notes about Rainard "Raoul" de Woëvre Comte de Bar-sur-Seine

{geni:about_me} ===Liste des comtes de Bar-sur-Seine===

https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ch%C3%A2teau_de_Bar-sur-Seine

[ ''Ne doit pas être confondu avec les comtes de Bar (Bar-le-Duc)''.]

Les armoiries du comté mais celles-ci sont postérieures au dernier comte de Bar-sur-Seine

'''Comtes du Pagus Latiscencis, ou comtes du Lassois :'''
* Renard de Woëvre (c. 890) [réf. souhaitée]
* Réginald de Woëvre, (950-997) [réf. souhaitée]
* Raoul III[réf. souhaitée] de Woëvre, (c. 965). Vivait encore à l'époque de Brunon de Roucy, évêque de Langres3
* ? - 997 : Rainard de Bar-sur-Seine († c. 997), fils de Raoul qui précède4
* Une fille Ermengarde qui suit3
* 997-998 : Milon II, comte de Tonnerre, marié à Ermengarde3
* 998-1002 : Herbert III de Vermandois, second époux d'Ermengarde5
* 1002- ? : Renaud Ier de Tonnerre, fils de Milon II (tutelle de sa mère Ermengarde)5
* ?- 1039 : Renaud Ier, comte de Tonnerre et de Bar-sur-Seine6
* marié à Erwise6,7
* Trois enfants, Othon († 1036)6, Arduin évêque de Langres († 1065), Ermengarde (v. 1032-1083)
* 1040 : Guy de Tonnerre, frère du précédent8

Refs: Ernest Petit, ''Histoire des ducs de Bourgogne de la race capétienne avec des documents inédits et des pièces justificatives'', t. II, Paris, Lechevalier, 1888, « Généalogie des premiers comtes de Tonnerre, documents inédits du xe siècle pour servir à l'histoire...et des comtes inconnus jusqu'ici de Bar-sur-Seine », p. 419-442, disponible [archive] sur Gallica https://gallica.bnf.fr/ark:/12148/bpt6k111725f/f443

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COMTES de BAR-sur-SEINE (TONNERRE)
from [http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/CHAMPAGNE%20NOBILITY.htm#_Toc263919904 FMG Medieval Land Database]

1. RAOUL . The Chronicle of St Bénigne de Dijon names "miles Rodulfus…de Barrensi castro…et filius ipsius Rainardus"[113]. m ---. The name of Raoul´s wife is not known. Raoul & his wife had one child:

a) '''RAINARD''' . The Chronicle of St Bénigne de Dijon names "miles Rodulfus…de Barrensi castro…et filius ipsius Rainardus"[114]. same person as…? RAINARD (-after [997]). '''Comte [de Bar-sur-Seine]'''.

* "Milo comes…Raynardus comes…" witnessed the charter dated to [992] under which “Umbertus…et mee conjugis…Giberge” donated property "in villa…Curtis-Secreta…in comitatu Tornodorense" to Saint-Michel de Tonnerre[115].
* Ernest Petit suggests this co-identity, pointing out that Coussegré was situated in the domaine of Chaource, which in part was a dependency of the county of Bar-sur-Seine[116].
* There appears to be no other evidence of the existence of Rainard, son of Raoul, and Bouchard points out that the dating of the charter in question is uncertain[117]. She suggests that it is more likely that "Rainardus comes" was either Rainard Comte de Sens or Rainard Comte de Tonnerre, the son of Ermengardis. However, the latter suggestion appears incorrect as "Miles comes", who would have been the father of Rainard Comte de Tonnerre, is also named in the [992] charter. "…Raynardi comitis…Milonis comitis…" subscribed a charter dated to [997] which deals with the property at Coussegré[118].

m ---. The name of Renard´s wife is not known. Rainard & his wife had [one possible child]:

i) [ERMENGARDE (-after 1018). Ernest Petit suggests that Ermengarde, wife of Milon [III] Comte de Tonnerre, was the daughter of Rainard and heiress of Bar-sur-Seine[119]. A family connection is indicated by the charter dated to [992/1005] uner which “Milo comes Tornodorensis castri” donated property "in villa…Curtis-Secreta" to the monastery of Saint-Michel, with the consent of “coniugis mee Ermengarde et carissimorum filiorum meorum Achardi, Rainardi et Alberici”[120], the property being the same as the subject of the [992] charter witnessed by "…Raynardus comes…"[121]. m MILO [IV] Comte de Tonnerre, son of --- ([950/65]-1002 or after).

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