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Personal data Thibault de Semur 


Household of Thibault de Semur

Waarschuwing Attention: Wife (Ermentrude de Châlon) is also his cousin.

He is married to Ermentrude de Châlon.

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They got married about 1019.


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Notes about Thibault de Semur

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{geni:about_me} '''COMTES de CHALON, family of SEIGNEURS de SEMUR'''
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'''THIBAUT de Semur''', son of GEOFFROY [I] Seigneur de Semur & his second wife Mathilde de Chalon dame de Donzy (-Tolosa [1065]).
* "Gausfredus et uxor mea Mahaldis et filii mei Gausfredus, Herveus, Oddo, Tethbaldus, Lanbertus" donated property to Cluny by charter dated to [1015][396]. His parentage is also deduced from the charter of "Gaufredus" dated [1054] which names "Tetbaldus comes avunculus ipsorum" (referring to Geoffroy and Dalmas, sons of Dalmas)[397].
* “Tetbaldus comes Cabilonensium” donated property to Châlons Saint-Marcel by undated charter which records that “comes Gaufredus” married “aviam meam Adheleydam comitissam” after the death of “avii mei Lamberti” and names her son “avunculus meus domnus Hugo comes et episcopus”, and is subscribed by “Ermentrudis eius coniugis…”[398].
* "Domnus Hugo comes Cabilonensium" donated property "in pago Augustudunensi in villa Martiniacensi" to Paray-le-Monial by undated charter subscribed by "Ottonis nepotis eius, Teudbaldi nepotis eius, Maltidis sororis eius"[399].
* "Tedbaldi comitis nepotis eius" witnessed a charter dated 1035 immediately after "domni Hugonis comitis"[400].
* He succeeded his maternal uncle in 1039 as '''Comte de Chalon'''.

m '''ERMENTRUDE''', daughter of ---. "Ermentrudis eius coniugis" subscribed the charter of "Tetbaldus comes Cabilonensis" dated [1050][401]. Her origin is not known.

Comte Thibaut & his wife had three children:

1. '''HUGUES de Chalon''' (-in Spain [Nov/early Dec] 1079). "Hugo Cabillonensis comes" made a concession to Cluny for the soul of "Tetbaldi patris mei"[402]. He succeeded his father in [1065] as Comte de Chalon. He travelled to Spain in [1078/79] to fight the Moors, probably accompanying Hugues I Duke of Burgundy. The relatively precise range of his estimated date of death is provided firstly by the charter referred to above which was witnessed by "Oddo dux", who succeeded as duke of Burgundy after the abdication of his brother Hugues (which is dated to [Oct/Nov] 1079), and secondly by his widow subscribing a document with her second husband dated 25 Dec 1079 at Dueñas[403]. m (1065) as her first husband, CONSTANCE de Bourgogne, daughter of ROBERT I "le Vieux" Duke of Burgundy & his first wife Hélie de Semur ([1045]-[Jan/Feb] or [3 Apr/25 Oct] 1093, bur Sahagún, León, royal monastery of Santos Facundo y Primitivo). The Chronicon Trenorciensi records that "Constantiæ…filia Roberti Ducis" married firstly "Hugonis Cabilonensis Comitis" and secondly "Hispaniæ Rex Adefonsus"[404]. A charter dated 1087 of "Ducem Burgundiæ Oddonem" recalls a donation to Tournus abbey by "comitissa Cabillonensis filia Rotberti ducis", after the death of "mariti sui Hugonis comitis", adding that she subsequently became "Regina Galliciæ et Hispaniarum"[405]. She married secondly (late 1079 or 8 May 1081) as his third wife, Alfonso VI King of Castile and León. "Infanta donna Urraka Regis domni Adefonsi filia" names her mother "Constantie regina" in her donation to Cluny dated 22 Feb 1117 "Spanish Era"[406], although the date was presumably AD as 1117 Spanish Era was equivalent to 1079 AD. An early 12th century document at Fleury records that "filiam Roberti ducis Bugundionem…Constantiam" married Alfonso VI King of Castile and was mother of a daughter who married "Raymundo comiti"[407]. The Chronicon Regum Legionensium names "Queen Constance" as the second of the "five legitimate wives" of King Alfonso[408]. Her second marriage date is estimated based on the likely estimated death date of her first husband in [Nov/early Dec] 1079 and her subscribing a document dated 25 Dec 1079 at Dueñas with her second husband[409]. Queen Constance was instrumental in having the Roman rite replace the Visigothic rite in the churches of Castile. "Adefonsus…Hispaniarum rex…cum coniuge mea Constantia regina" donated property to the monastery of San Salvador de Oña by charter dated 1 May 1092[410]. The date of her death is fixed by her last known mention in a charter dated 25 Jul 1093 and a donation by King Alfonso to the monastery of Sahagún dated 25 Oct 1093, which does not include Queen Constanza's name in the subscription list[411]. Pérez´s history of Sahagún monastery, published in 1782, states that "Doña Berta…Reyna…está enterrada no lejos de Doña Constanza en la Capilla" of the monastery, but does not quote the inscription which confirms this statement[412].

2. '''ADELAIS de Chalon''' (-1080 or after). "Domna comitissa Adheleidis [Teudbaldi comitis filia" donated property to Paray-le-Monial with the consent of "domnus Wido de Tier filius eius, domnus Hugo Dalmatius, domnus Gaufredus Donzi" by undated charter[413]. m GUILLAUME de Thiern, son of --- (-after Nov 1083).

3. '''ERMENGARDE de Chalon''' . "Ermengardis" made a donation to Cluny dated Nov 1083, naming "Teudbaldus comes Cabilonensis" (although not specifying that she was his daughter), witnessed by "Humbertus de Borbon…viri mei" and "Humbertum filium nostrum puerulum monachum ad serviendum Deo in ipso loco"[414]. This is supplemented by the undated charter which records that "post mortem eius [comes domus Tetbaldus] filius eius domnus Hugo" agreed with "domnun Unbertum" to give "sororem Hermengardam in conjugium", before stating that "prædicta Hermengardis sentiens sibi mortem vicinam" wished to donate property to the abbey of Paray-le-Moniale, naming "filium Unbertum puerulum" whom she "obtulit Deo", which "[viri sui] domnus Unbertus" later donated by an undated charter[415]. Dame de Digoine. m HUMBERT [I] Sire de Bourbon-Lancy, son of ---.

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Ricoaire
920-972
Adélaïde N.N.
928-± 984
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Thibault de Semur
± 968-1065

± 1019

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