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Personal data Guy de Ponthieu I 

• He was born about 1047 in Ponthieu, Somme, Picardy, France.
• Occupations:
• unknown in Count of Ponthieu.
• Chevalier, Comte, de Ponthieu, 1053, de Montreuil, Avoué, de Saint-Riquier.
• COUNT OF PONTHIEU, Chevalier, Comte, de Ponthieu, 1053, de Montreuil, Avoué, de Saint-Riquier, Comte de Ponthieu, Count of Ponthieu.
• He died on October 13, 1101Abbeville
  Comté de Ponthieu France.
• A child of Enguerrand de Ponthieu and Adelaide
• This information was last updated on September 11, 2020.

Household of Guy de Ponthieu I

He is married to Adila d'Amiens.

They got married about 1061Thézillieu
Rhone-Alpes France.

Child(ren):

1. Agnès d'Abbeville  ± 1064-1102 

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Weis, p. 101- Count of Ponthieu and Montreuil.

Name Prefix: Count

Name Prefix: Count

Count of Ponthieu and Montreuil; the captor of Harold; Crusader; wenton 1st Crusade; companion of William the Conqueror.

Count of Ponthieu and Montreuil; the captor of Harold; Crusader; wenton 1st Crusade; companion of William the Conqueror.

Count of Ponthieu and Montreuil; the captor of Harold; Crusader; wenton 1st Crusade; companion of William the Conqueror.

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[Brøderbund WFT Vol. 2, Ed. 1, Tree #1241, Date of Import: May 8, 1997]

!COUNT OF PONTHIEU[Brøderbund WFT Vol. 2, Ed. 1, Tree #1241, Date of Import: May 8, 1997]

!COUNT OF PONTHIEU

Guy I of Ponthieu
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Guy I of Ponthieu was born sometime in the mid to late 1020's. He was the second son of count Hugh II of Ponthieu. Guy's older brother Enguerrand became count of Ponthieu upon the death of their father on 20 November 1052, possibly in battle.

The Ponthievin alliance with duke William of Normandy had earlier been secured by the marriage of Enguerrand's and Guy's sister, to duke William's uncle, William of Talou (Enguerrand was also married to duke William's sister, Adelaide). William of Talou had built a strong castle at Arques, and from it (in 1053) he defied his nephew the youthful duke of Normandy: as "family", the comital house of Ponthieu supported the rebellion.

Duke William put Arques under siege, and then remained mobile with another force in the countryside nearby. He was aware that Normandy was being threatened by the armies of King Henry of France - who wanted to bring his young, former vassal to heel; and that Normandy's erstwhile allies from Ponthieu would also be coming to break the siege of Arques. Young count Enguerrand led a Ponthievin army of relief into the Talou and arrived first: but duke William successfully ambushed them and Enguerrand was killed (legend says, within sight and sound of the walls of Arques, from which his sister witnessed the demise of her brother). Upon learning of this serious reverse, the vacillating Henry withdrew his forces at once back across the Norman border. William of Talou was compelled to surrender Arques and was banished for life. (Alternatively, the story goes that king Henry reinforced Arques, and duke William lured part of the French army, including Enguerrand and the Ponthievins, away by a feigned flight, then turned on them and won a battle: Henry then withdrew, forcing the surrender of Arques not long after.)

With the untimely death of his older brother (who was without male issue or heirs), Guy assumed the comital duties: this is the first mention of Guy that the historical record makes note of.

In February 1054, king Henry was ready again to chastise the duke of Normandy: he reentered the duchy with a large army of his own liegemen and an Angevin army led by count Geoffrey of Anjou. This combined force moved down the Seine toward Rouen, while Henry's brother Eudes "led" a second army, along with count Rainald of Clairmont and count Guy of Ponthieu. The Franco-Ponthievin army was undisciplined, and fragmented out of control to plunder and pillage the countryside around Mortemer. They were attacked suddenly by Normans from Eu and other districts of North-eastern Normandy. In the battle of Mortemer, Guy's younger brother Waleran was mortally wounded, and count Guy was captured. He spent two years as a prisoner in Normandy, while his uncle, Guy, the bishop of Amiens, ruled Ponthieu as regent.

Evidently, from this point on, count Guy was a vassal of duke William of Normandy.

In 1064, Harold Godwinson, the earl of Wessex, was shipwrecked on the shores of Ponthieu and captured by count Guy. William demanded the release of the earl, and Guy delivered Harold up after being paid a ransom for him. Harold was not released from Normandy until he had sworn to be duke William's vassal, and to aid him to the throne of England. (This story is pictured prominently in the Bayeux Tapestry.)

In 1066, Harold accepted the crown of England upon the death of Edward the Confessor, thus precipitating the war that resulted in the Norman Conquest.

According to a very convincing interpretation of The Carmen de Hastingae Proelio, Guy's brother, Hugh, was a participant in the battle of Hastings, and had a hand in the slaying of king Harold. Guy I had a son, Enguerrand, who must have died before the Carmen was composed (no later than 1068): when the Carmen refers to Hugh, Guy's brother, as "the noble heir of Ponthieu", we must assume Enguerrand's death as a fact, either at the time of the Conquest, or shortly before.

Count Guy I died on 13 October 1100.

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Family and children
His daughter, Agnes, married Robert of Bellême. Their son, William Talvas, assumed the comital title upon the death of his mother, sometime before 1111.

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Sources
The Carmen de Hastingae Proelio of Bishop Guy of Amiens, edited by Catherine Morton and Hope Muntuz, Oxford at the Clarendon Press, 1972.
The Gesta Normannorum Ducum of William of Jumièges, Orderic Vitalis, and Robert of Torigni, edited and translated by Elisabeth M. C. Van Houts, Clarendon Press, Oxford, 1995.

Preceded by:
Hugh II Count of Ponthieu
1053–1100 Succeeded by:
Agnes

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"Hugh II and Bertha were the parents of Enguerrand II and of Guy I."
Spencer Hines has provided the correct information - I was careless in following ES III/4, Tafel 635, where Guy is wrongly shown as the son of Enguerrand and Adelaide of Normandy, without checking - oddly enough, ES lists a number of sources for this family that contradict the erroneous genealogy given in the table cited.
One of these is CP vol 1 (article on Aumale), where Enguerrand is correctly stated to have died without male issue. The relationships in the first comital house of Ponthieu are tabulated in *The Carmen de Hastingae Proelio of Guy Bishop of Amiens* edited by Catherine Morton and Hope Muntz (Oxford, 1972), based on the research of Jules Delaîte in *Les comtes de Dammartin en Goële et leurs ancêtres du VIIIe au XIIe siècle* (Liège, 1911), another source used by ES. Tafel 635 also shows a second daughter of Enguerrand and Adelaide, named Hélissende, who is supposed to have married Hugh II, count of Saint-Pol - Morton & Muntz do not mention this Hélissende at all, and anyway the relationship shown in ES appears to be a compound error since the corresponding Saint-Pol table does not specify the parents of Hugh II's wife, stating only that she was Guy's sister.

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#Générale##Générale#s:ds03.635

note couple : #Générale#s:ds03.635

note couple : #Générale#s:ds03.635

#Générale#Possible : version choisie par Jacques Saillot in "Le SangdeCharlemagne". Paul Theroff en fait le fils et non lefrère d'Enguerrand II.
Profession : Comte de Ponthieu & de Montreuil
Il participe à la 1ère Croisade.
Compagnon de Guillaume le Conquérant.

{geni:about_me} =Guy I of Ponthieu=

'''Guy I of Ponthieu''' (died 13 October 1100) was born sometime in the mid to late 1020s. He was the son of Count Enguerrand II and the grandson of Hugh II.

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http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/NORTHERN%20FRANCE.htm#Huguesdied1000B

1. HUGUES, son of --- (-4 Jul [1000]). ... m (before 987) GISELE de France, daughter of HUGUES Duc des Francs [later HUGUES "Capet" King of France] & his wife Adelais [d'Aquitaine] (969][815]-).

*a) ENGUERRAND (-1045, bur Saint-Riquier). [m firstly ---. ... m [secondly] ([after 1033]) as her second husband, ALEIDA [van Westfriesland], widow of BAUDOUIN Comte de Boulogne, daughter of [ARNULF Graaf van Westfriesland [Holland] & his wife Liutgard de Luxembourg].
*b) '''GUY''' . The Chronique de Saint Riquier records that "Gui…frère de Seigneur Angelran" was named abbé of Saint-Riquier[825].

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GUY de Montreuil, son of ENGUERRAND Comte de Montreuil & his wife Adelais de Normandie (-13 Nov [1100], bur Abbéville, Saint-Pierre). A charter dated 1100 included in the cartulary of Saint-Josse records a grant of fishing rights by "Guido comes Monsteroli et Pontivensium" which names "Hugo noster avus" and "patre meo Ingerrano"[1212]. This is inconsistent with the Chronique de Saint Riquier which records that "comte Gui fils du comte Hugues" succeeded after "Angelran son frère" was killed by the Normans and possessed the county of Ponthieu and the avouerie of Saint-Riquier[1213]. It is assumed that the charter provides the more reliable record of Guy's parentage. Comte de Montreuil. Comte de Ponthieu. Orderic Vitalis records that Guy fought with "Ralph Comte de Montdidier", in support of Henri I King of France, in Feb 1054, was captured by Guillaume II Duke of Normandy and kept prisoner for 2 years until he paid homage to the duke[1214]. "Pontivensium comes Wido" donated property to Compiègne Saint-Corneille, confirmed by "Anne comitisse nostre filie", by charter dated to [1067 or after][1215]. A charter dated 1100 records the foundation of the priory of St-Pierre d´Abbeville by "Guy comte de Ponthieu et Adèle sa femme", sealed by "Guy comte, de Agnèz sa fille, de Mahaut sa fille…"[1216]. "Wido…Pontivi regionis comes" issued a charter dated 1101 relating to the church of Montreuil witnessed by "Agnetis mee filie, Hugonis filii Ramelini cum Ade sue conjugis, Widonis filii Hermenfredi, Simonis Rogeronis filii, Godefridi vicecomitis…Wascelini tunc temporis vicecomitis Monsteroli et ville Rue…"[1217].

m firstly ADA, daughter of --- (-5 Mar before 1066). The primary source which confirms her parentage and marriage has not yet been identified.

m secondly ADILA [Ada], daughter of ---. "Wido comes Pontivensis et uxor eius Adila comitissa" donated property to the abbey of Saint-Martin des Champs for the soul of "filii sui Ingelranni" by charter dated before 1090[1218]. A charter dated 1100 records the foundation of the priory of St-Pierre d´Abbeville by "Guy comte de Ponthieu et Adèle sa femme", sealed by "Guy comte, de Agnèz sa fille, de Mahaut sa fille…"[1219]. "Gulielmus comes Pontivorum" donated property to the abbey of Saint-Sauveur-le-Vicomte for the souls of "his predecessors…count Guy and Adda his wife…" by charter dated 1127[1220].

'''Comte Guy & his [first] wife had one child: '''

1. ANNE de Ponthieu (-[after 1067]). "Pontivensium comes Wido" donated property to Compiègne Saint-Corneille, confirmed by "Anne comitisse nostre filie", by charter dated to [1067 or after][1221]. The title "comitisse" in this charter suggests that Anne must have been married to a count at that date. [m ---.]

'''Comte Guy & his [second] wife had four children: '''

2. ENGUERRAND de Ponthieu (-before [1079/80]). "Wido comes Pontivensis et uxor eius Adila comitissa" donated property to the abbey of Saint-Martin des Champs for the soul of "filii sui Ingelranni" by charter dated before 1090[1222].

3. AGNES de Ponthieu (-after 6 Oct 1100). "Wido…Pontivi regionis comes" issued a charter dated 1101 relating to the church of Montreuil witnessed by "Agnetis mee filie…"[1223]. This marriage was arranged by William II King of England, according to Orderic Vitalis, who also specifies her father's name[1224]. A charter dated 1100 records the foundation of the priory of St-Pierre d´Abbeville by "Guy comte de Ponthieu et Adèle sa femme", sealed by "Guy comte, de Agnèz sa fille, de Mahaut sa fille…"[1225]. She was treated cruelly by her husband and imprisoned in the castle of Bellême, from where she escaped, took refuge with Adela Ctss de Blois, and retired to Ponthieu. m (before 9 Sep 1087) ROBERT de Montgommery, son of ROGER [II] de Montgommery Sire d'Alençon, Earl of Shropshire and Shrewsbury & his wife Mabile d'Alençon ([1052/56]-[Wareham Castle] 8 May [1131 or later], bur [Wareham Castle]). Comte de Bellême 1101. Sire d'Alençon.

4. IDA de Ponthieu . The primary source which confirms her parentage has not yet been identified. Abbess of Sainte-Austreberte at Montreuil.

5. MATHILDE de Ponthieu . A charter dated 1100 records the foundation of the priory of St-Pierre d´Abbeville by "Guy comte de Ponthieu et Adèle sa femme", sealed by "Guy comte, de Agnèz sa fille, de Mahaut sa fille…"[1226].

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