Family tree Bas » Karel "Constantijn" van Vienne (< 910-962)

Personal data Karel "Constantijn" van Vienne 

  • Nickname is Constantijn.
  • He was born before 910.
  • (Geschiedenis) .Source 1
    Karel (Constantijn) van Vienne (voor 910 - 962) was de enige zoon van koning Lodewijk de Blinde van de Provence, maar was niet in staat om zijn vader op te volgen.

    Karel werd in 926 graaf van Vienne, als opvolger van zijn oom Hugo van Arles die koning van Italië werd. In 928 moest hij dat graafschap echter alweer opgeven ten gunste van Herbert II van Vermandois. Toen zijn vader in 929 overleed, riep Hugo (die de werkelijke macht in het koninkrijk van de Provence had) zichzelf tot koning uit. Hoewel Karel geen functies meer had, bleef hij in Vienne wonen en de grafelijke titel voeren. In 943 zwoor hij trouw aan koning Koenraad van Bourgondië.

    Vaak wordt beweerd dat zijn moeder de Byzantijnse prinses Anna, dochter van Leo VI van Byzantium, zou zijn. Hoewel zijn vader wel met Anna verloofd is geweest, is het vrijwel zeker dat het huwelijk niet doorging toen Lodewijk het koninkrijk Italië verloor. Hierdoor was er voor Leo geen voordeel meer bij het huwelijk te behalen en het huwelijk wordt ook niet in eigentijdse bronnen vermeld. Karels moeder was vrijwel zeker Adelheid, een nicht van Rudolf I van Bourgondië.

    Karel was getrouwd met Theutberga van Troyes (geb. ca. 900), dochter van Werner van Sens (ca. 875 - 6 december 924) en Theutberga van Arles (ca. 885 - voor september 948). Werner was burggraaf van Sens en graaf van Troyes en sneuvelde in gevechten tegen "heidenen". Theutberga was een dochter van Theobald van Arles en Bertha van Lotharingen (863 - 8 maart 925), buitenechtelijke dochter van Lotharius II bij Waldrada.
  • (Levens event) .Source 2
    Charles-Constantine (died 962) was the Count of Vienne, son of Louis the Blind, King of Provence, and the Holy Roman Emperor.
    Name and maternity

    About his name, he was never called "Charles Constantine". Rather Flodoard, copied later by Richar, calls him "Constantinus". We know that his proper name was "Carolus" (Charles) from a diploma of his father, and from his own charters. Modern scholars have typically called him Charles Constantine, but this was not a name used during his lifetime.

    Some modern genealogical scholars speculated that his mother was Anna of Constantinople, daughter of Leo VI the Wise and his second wife Zoe Zaoutzaina. However, his father's marriage to this princess is much disputed and rather unlikely. Christian Settipani postulates that his name refers to the founders of the empires governed by his father and maternal grandfather, i.e., to Charlemagne and Constantine the Great.

    Regarding his birthyear, or age, we have few datapoints. He was Count of Vienne and acting as an adult by (but not in) December 927. This evidences that his father must have had a prior union. Some speculation would place him born in 901/3 but this is just a force-fit to allow Anna to be his mother and his father's wife.
    Life

    When Charles' father Louis died in 929, Hugh of Arles, who was already king of Italy, took over Provence and gave it, in 933, to King Rudolf II of Burgundy. Charles-Constantine for whatever reason, could not inherit his father's right to the imperial throne or his right to rule Provence. This has led many to believe he was, in fact, a bastard. He did however rule the county of the Viennois, until his death in 962.

    He was married to Thiberge de Troyes. It has been speculated that Constance, wife to Boso II of Arles and grandmother of Queen Constance of Arles, was their daughter. Through her, Charles Constantine would be an ancestor of the Capetian kings of France and the Norman and Plantagenet kings of England (through Queen Constance's daughter Adela Capet, and Adela's daughter Queen Matilda of Flanders, who married William the Conqueror)
  • He died in the year 962.
  • A child of Lodewijk "de blinde" de Provence and Adelheid van Bourgondie
  • This information was last updated on November 2, 2012.

Household of Karel "Constantijn" van Vienne

He is married to Theutberga van Troyes.

They got married.Source 1


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    Sources

    1. http://nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Karel_van_Vienne
    2. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charles_Constantine_of_Vienne

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