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Personal data Piers (Peter) de Valognes, Seigneur d'Valognes 

• Alternative names: Piers de Valoienes, Piers de Valognes, Piers Valoienes, Piers (Peter) de Valognes, Seigneur d'Valognes
• He was born after 1033 in Valognes, Cotentin, Manche, Normandy, France.Source 3

  Valognes, Cotentin

• Alternative: He was born in the year 1045 in Orford, Suffolk, England.
• Alternative: He was born in the year 1060 in Valognes, Manche, Basse-Normandie, France.
• Alternative: He was born in the year 1030.Source 1
• Alternative: He was born in the year 1049 in Orford, Suffolk, England.
• He died in the year 1088 in Orford, Suffolk, England.

  Attention: Died 9 months (??-??-1088) prior to the birth (??-??-1104) of child (John Lutgareshale) .

• Alternative: He died about 1087 in of Essex &, Hertfordshire, England.Source 3
• Alternative: He died in the year 1087 in Hertfordshire, England.
• Alternative: He died in the year 1088 in Hertfordshire, England.
• A child of Sir Enguerrand de Ponthieu, and Adeliza d'Normandy,

Household of Piers (Peter) de Valognes, Seigneur d'Valognes

(1) He is married to Albreda de Rie.

They got married in the year 1074 at Suffolk, England.

Child(ren):

1. Muriel de Valoienes  < 1060-1090 
2. John Lutgareshale  1104-1144 

(2) He is married to Margaret Dapifer de Rie.

They got married in the year 1074 at Suffolk, England.

Child(ren):

1. Piers (Peter) de Valognes,  ± 1070-± 1109 
2. Robert de Valognes  1080-1191 

Notes about Piers (Peter) de Valognes, Seigneur d'Valognes

The parentage of Piers de Valognes came from the "Ancestors of Paul McBride" website, not Turton, who has no ancestors for Peters/Piers. Paul McBride, whose information is usually reasonably accurate, has "Peter (Piers) de Valognes (-1087)" listed as son of Enguerrand I de Ponthieu & Adele of Holland. Paul McBride does not give a source for his placement of Piers (Peter) de Valognes, d. 1087, as son of Engerraund I de Ponthieu. Paul then has Peter de Valoines, husband of Albreda de Rie, listed as son of Enguerrand II de Ponthieu by Adelaide of Normandy. Curt Hofemann's e-mail below indicates Paul McBride's sources for this 2nd listing. The first listing would seem to fit Turton's identification as the husband of Albreda de Rie, while the 2nd listing explicitly states another Piers/Peter de Valognes was her husband.rs de Valognes, d. 1087, making him son of Enguerrand I by his 2nd wife. Of course, even if there are some sources (or hints) for this, this parentage is very "iffy".ollowing e-mail was sent by Curt Hofemann [curt_hofemann@@yahoo.com]:ers (Peter) de Valognesx chart at the end of the msg, she showed Muriel as dau (not sister) of Piers (Peter) de Valognes who m. Albreda de Saint-Sauveur. Not sure if that was a typo or she was suggesting that CP is in error. The chart _was_ prefaced "proposed reconstruction"? Chris Phillips did respond, but did not address this (at least that I have found).and II of Ponthieu Count of Ponthieu & Adeliza of Normandy; Paul McBride did give sources: 1. "Ancestors of Deacon Edward Converse" & 2. "Magna Charta Pedigrees (Portland East Stake Gen. Lib.)". Unfortunately I am unfamiliar with the refs. It probably has to do with the following:, was "nephew of the Conqueror", but no sourced evidence for this has come to light. Various web sites show him (again without sources) as son of Adelaide of Normandy and Enguerrand de Ponthieu, but this seems extremely unlikely given the latter died in 1053 without a male heir". [Ref: Rosie Bevan 2 Sep 2003]d a son Peter de Volognes is the prob.

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