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Personal data Gilbert Pecche 

• He died on May 25, 1291.
• A child of Hamon Pecche and Eve NN

Household of Gilbert Pecche

(1) He is married to Maud de Hastings.

They got married

Child(ren):

1. Simon Pecche   

(2) He is married to Joan de Creye.

They got married

Child(ren):

1. Gilbert Pecche  ± 1265-< 1322 
2. Margery Pecche  ????-> 1319 

Notes about Gilbert Pecche

of Great Thurlow, Suffolk, Bourn, Eversden, Guilden Morden, Haslingfield, Kingston, Lolworth, Long Stanton, Madingley, Rampton, Swaffham Prior, Wimpole, etc., Cambridgeshire, Birdbrook and Plechedon (in Henham), Essex, Westcliffe, Kent, High Ercall, Shropshire.
NOTE: m. (1) Matilda de Hastings, (2) Joan, dau. of Simon de Creye.Of Westcliff, Kent and Of Gt Thurlow, Suffolk.Peter Stewart translated a core entry in the Barnwell prioryrecords:"'Pater eius uocabatur Hamon Pecche, et vxor eius Eua detransmarinis partibus oriunda. Ex hijs processerunt sex filij, scilicet:Gilbertus primogenitus, Hamon, Hugo, Robertus, Thomas etWillelmus....Pater uero eorum mortuus est in terra sancta...Predictus dominus GilbertusPecche duas habuit vxores: vnam que uocabatur Matildis de Hastings...ethabuerunt filios et filias. Que London defuncta est....Post hecaccepit dictus Gilbertus aliam uxorem filiam domini Symonis de Creye;que uocabatur Johanna. Hanc quidem dilexit et honorauit multum, eoquod pulcherima esset et bona; de hac quidem genuit filios et filias,et ob amorem matris magis cepit diligere pueros secunde uxoris quam prime....Johannem uero Pecche primogenitum suum et Eadmundumfratrem suum, filios prime uxoris, quasi fere dimisit inanes, nam nescioquo spiritu uel consilio ductus, dominum Regem Eadwardum filiumRegis Henrici et Reginam Alianoram de residuo Baronie sue suos fecitheredes.'"(His father was named Hamon Peche, and his [i.e. the father's]wife Eve came from overseas. From them came six sons, to wit: Gilbert thefirstborn, Hamon, Hugo, Robert, Thomas and William....Theirfather died in the Holy Land...The aforesaid Gilbert Peche had two wives:one who was named Matilda de Hastings...and they had sons and daughters.She died in London...After this Gilbert married another wife,daughter of the lord Simon de Creye, who was named Joan. Her indeed he lovedand honoured greatly, because she was beautiful and good; from herhe begot sons and daughters, and from love of their mother he preferredthe children of his second wife over those of the first....JohnPeche his firstborn and Edmund his brother, sons of the first wife, he setaside altogether as if they were nobodies, but whether guided byimpulse or deliberation I don't know; he made the lord King Edward, son ofKing Henry, and Queen Alienor the heirs of the remainder of hisbarony.)"The death of Gilbert is reported in the narrative, and not asan item in an obituary list, as follows (p 86):"'Anno regni regis Eadwardi .XIXo. obijt dominus GilbertusPecche die Sancti Vrbani pape, scilicet in fine Maij" (In the 19th year ofKing Edwrad's reign the lord Gilbert Peche died on St Urban's day,that is at the end of May).19 Edward I began in November 1290, and St Urban's day was 25May - included in the calendar kept at Barnwell, op cit p 7."So Joan had to wait eight months, until 20 January 1292 as inthe Close Roll, to gain her full property rights, a small enough price topay for her comeliness and the favouritism shown to her children."_____________________________________________________By his first marriage to Maud de Hastinges, they had two sons:John and Edward, both disinheried by the strategem of giving hisestates to the king and receiving others back in exchange._____________________________________________________

nom prefixe: Sir

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1 SOUR @S208@ - p. 3 (on my print)
1 SOUR @S127@ - Peter Stewart, 25 Feb 2004, "Gilbert Peche"
1 SOUR @S2@ - Pecche article, Vol X, pp. 335-6
1 SOUR @S2@ - Criol article, Vol III, p. 542
1 SOUR Book -  Ronny O Bodine & Brother Thomas W Spalding Jr - 1 PERI The Ancestry of Dorothea Poyntz -  Bodine & Spalding - No 23526, p. 214

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