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Personal data Poppa "Pa..." de Bayeux 

• Alternative names: Duchess of Normandy/, Poppa Normandy
• Nickname is Pa....
• She was born about 872 in Évreux, Eure, Haute-NormandieFrance.
• She was christened in first wife, Rollo, the Dane, NORMANDY.
• Alternative: She was christened in first wife, Rollo, the Dane, NORMANDY.
• Baptized (at 8 years of age or later) by the priesthood authority of the LDS church.
• Alternative: Baptized (at 8 years of age or later) by the priesthood authority of the LDS church on March 27, 1993.
• Occupations:
• Papia de Valois, Duchess of Normandy .
• Duchess of Normandy.
• Duchesse de Normandie.
• Comtesse, de Valois, Duchesse.
• She died on August 11, 930 in Rouen, Seine-Maritime, Haute-NormandieFrance.
• She is buried on August 11, 930Cathédrale Notre-Dame de Rouen Rouen, Departement de la Seine-Maritime, Haute-Normandie, France MEMORIAL ID 30256985.
• A child of Berenger de Bayeux

Household of Poppa "Pa..." de Bayeux

She is married to Rollo Ragnvaldsson.

They got married in the year 886Castle St. Cler, Évreux, Eure, Haute-Normandie, France.

Child(ren):

1. Geirlaug Hrólfsdóttir  ± 897-962 
2. William FitzRobert  ± 891-± 942 

Notes about Poppa "Pa..." de Bayeux

Weis, p. 110

Name Prefix: Duchess Name Suffix: Of Normandy

This page is justa start. Not all information has bee varified.

SOURCE CITATION:
Title: Ancestral File (TM)
Author: The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints
Publication Information: July 1996 (c), data as of 2 January 1996
Repository Name: Family History Library
Address: 35 N West Temple Street
Salt Lake City, UT 84150 USA

SOURCE CITATION:
Title: Ancestral File (TM)
Author: The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints
Publication Information: July 1996 (c), data as of 2 January 1996
Repository Name: Family History Library
Address: 35 N West Temple Street
Salt Lake City, UT 84150 USA

[Norvell.FTW]

[Eno.ftw]

CONFLICT: Birth: Norway

Popa var grevinne av Bayeux.
?Dictionaire de Biographie Française? av J. Bateau oppgir at Gerlaug var Gange-Rolvs
datter i ekteskapet med Popa, idet Gerlaug var født før traktaten av 911 i St. Clair-sur-Epte. I
denne fikk Gange-Rolv av Karl ?den Enfoldige? landet omkring Seine ned til havet og hans
datter Gisela til hustru.

[Norvell.FTW]

[Eno.ftw]

CONFLICT: Birth: Norway

[s2.FTW]

Source: Church of JC of the LDS "Ancestral File" CD-Rom database, ver 4.17.Source: Church of JC of the LDS "Ancestral File" CD-Rom database, ver 4.17.

A wife or mistress of Rollo of Normandy, and mother of Rollo's son and successor William "Longsword", her name is reported only by the often unreliable Dudo [ii, 16 (pp. 38-9); iii, 36 (p. 57)] and by sources depending on him (hence the quotes around her name). The only certain fact that is known about her comes from the contemporary (or nearly so) Planctus of her son William, which states (without naming her) that she was a Christian, and that her son William was born overseas. (http://sbaldw.home.mindspring.com/hproject/prov/poppa000.htm)

Duchess of Normandy
Poppa (Poppacia) de Valois (Bayeux)De Senlis"Poppa"or Popia was an
affectionate nickname which meant "little puppet" or "little doll"she
was born in: Valois, France a.k.a.Poppa de Valois (Duchess of Norway)

Her daughter *Gerloc* lists as being born in 917. However, Poppa was born abt 848. There seems to be a generation skip here. Poppa is the half sister to Bernard of Senlis or daughter of the Comte of Bayeaux. Source: Dan Pomerleau

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(Research): dau of Pepin II Quentin, Count of Vermandois , Senlis et Peronne)

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(Research): dau of Pepin II Quentin, Count of Vermandois , Senlis et Peronne)

There had already been Norwegian and Danish settlers in the area. King Ch arles "the Simple" of France made an effort to chase away the Vikings, bu t Rolf's men triumphed at Pont-de-l'Arche, then went on to raid Melun, wh ere the French again tried to beat them off and lost. So the Vikings rule d the area from their seat at Rouen, and mostly turned to colonization in stead of pillaging. But Rolf looked beyond the Seine valley; he extende d his holdings across the Risle, then the Orne, then took Bayeux in 900 , killing Count Béreanger who had held it; Rolf married the count's daugh ter Popa. And, finally, in 911, Charles "the Simple" recognized Rolf's ho ldings

Poppa of Normandy de Valois1 (F)
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Pedigree
Last Edited=15 Jun 2003

     Poppa of Normandy de Valois is the daughter of Berenger of Bayeaux de Senlis, Count of Bayeaux.1 She married Rollo Ragnvaldsson, 1st Duc de Normandie, son of Ragnvald I 'the Wise' Eysteinsson, Earl of More and Ragnhild Hrolfsdottir, in 886.1
     Through her marriage, Poppa of Normandy de Valois was styled as Duchesse de Normandie.

Children of Poppa of Normandy de Valois and Rollo Ragnvaldsson, 1st Duc de Normandie
Robert of Corbeil 1
Crespina de Normandie 1
Gerletta de Normandie 1
Kathlin de Normandie 1
Guillaume I 'Longsword', 2nd Duc de Normandie+ b. c 900, d. 17 Dec 9421
Adele de Normandie+ b. c 917, d. a 14 Oct 9621
Citations
1. [S106] Royal Genealogies Website (ROYAL92.GED), online . Hereinafter cited as Royal Genealogies Website.

[2068] DUDLE.GED file: Sometimes spelled Papie - COMYN4.TAF (Compuserve Roots), p. 6; Possibly named Gisele - NORM.TAF (Compuserve); The b., d. and m. dates are ones found with Gisel, NORM.TAF (Compuserve) - NLP

Lady, of Valois ...

BIRTH: NORM.TAF (Compuserve) 897; WSHNGT.ASC abt 872

DEATH: NORM.TAF (Compuserve) 932

WSHNGT.ASC file (Geo Washington Ahnentafel) # 34900769 = 3682841; Popa (or Papie) DE BAYEAUX Dchs.of Normandy

"Our Royal Descent from Alfred 'the Great' ..." in Steve Clare papers, Popia, her father is given as Beringarious of Swabia

http://uts.cc.utexas.edu/~churchh/edw3chrt.html#BEGIN b 848

http://www.dcs.hull.ac.uk/cgi-bin/gedlkup/n=royal?royal03015 marr 886 (previously had 912)
de Valois, Poppa of Normandy, Duchess of Normandy

Kinship II - A collection of family, friends and U.S. Presidents
URL: http://worldconnect.genealogy.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=:2902060&id=I575151168
ID: I575151168
Name: Ancitel De BAYEUX
Given Name: Ancitel De
Surname: BAYEUX
Sex: M
Birth: Abt 0992 in Bayeux, Calvados, Normandy, France
Change Date: 6 Apr 2003 1
Note:
Name Prefix: Count
Ancestral File Number: FLHJ-CB

Marriage 1 Mrs-Ancitel De BAYEUX b: Abt 0991 in Bayeux, Calvados, Normandy, France
Note: _UID775ABE4F2DE90A4C9467BE7D397FFB8CBF85
Children
Ranulf De BAYEUX b: Abt 1017 in Bayeux, Calvados, Normandy, France

Sources:
Author: The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints
Title: Ancestral File (R)
Publication: Copyright (c) 1987, June 1998, data as of 5 January 1998
Repository:

[Geoffrey De Normandie, Gedcom BSJTK Smith Family Tree.ged]

pg 6 &7, "The Plantagenet Ancestry" by W.H. Turton, published 1928

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Was a pagan. Also known as Popa or Papie.

Was a pagan. Also known as Popa or Papie.

GIVN Popa or Papie
ABBR Gary Boyd Roberts Book
TITL Via a gedcom from Compuserve by Jack McDonald which gave the rather
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AUTH Gary Boyd Roberts

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OCCU Lady, of Valois ...
SOUR Royalty for Commoners, Roderick W. Stuart, p. 124;www.public.asu.edu/bgertz/
family says 872;misc.traveller.com/genealogy/gedhtml/kmilburn/ says 848;
gendex.com/users/daver/rigney/D0001 says 872, Evreux, Normandy, France
SOUR Royalty for Commoners, Roderick W. Stuart, p. 124;
www.public.asu.edu/bgertz/family/d0000 ;
Sometimes spelled Papie - COMYN4.TAF (Compuserve), p. 6;Popie de Senlis-COMYNJ
.TAF (Compuserve),p. 9; COMYNJ.TAF (Compuserve), p. 11 says father is Berenger
de Bayeux - NLP;daughter of a count Berengar, whom Rolf had taken captive on
a viking raid into Bayeux - The Conquest of England, Eric Linklater, p. 28;
WIVES.TXT (Comp) says parents were Guy de Senlis and Pepin II's daughter - NLP
;Royalty for Commoners says parents are Berenger and ? of Rennes - NLP
POPPA DE BAYEUX, daugher of BERENGER DE BAYEUX and ? DE RENNES, was the Duchess of Norway - Royalty for Commoners, Roderick W. Stuart, p. 124
Americans of Royal Descent, Charles H. Browning, p. 408 says parents were Pepin de Senlis de Bayeaux and - NLP
Pope of Rennes RENNES Pope - HAWKINS.GED
CHARL.TXT says parents were Pepin, King of Italy (b cir 815) and
CHARLEMG.ZIP (GS) says father was Pepin (no mother listed) - NPH
Lady Poppa (puppet or little doll) de Valois - http://misc.traveller.com/genealo gy/gedhtml/kmilburn/d0001/g0000037.htm#I2207
http://misc.traveller.com/genealo gy/gedhtml/kmilburn/d0001/g0000037.htm#I2207 says parents were Pepin de Senlis (d. AFT 893) & Countess Vermandois - NPH

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OCCU Lady, of Valois ...
SOUR Royalty for Commoners, Roderick W. Stuart, p. 124;www.public.asu.edu/bgertz/
family says 872;misc.traveller.com/genealogy/gedhtml/kmilburn/ says 848;
gendex.com/users/daver/rigney/D0001 says 872, Evreux, Normandy, France
SOUR Royalty for Commoners, Roderick W. Stuart, p. 124;
www.public.asu.edu/bgertz/family/d0000 ;
Sometimes spelled Papie - COMYN4.TAF (Compuserve), p. 6;Popie de Senlis-COMYNJ
.TAF (Compuserve),p. 9; COMYNJ.TAF (Compuserve), p. 11 says father is Berenger
de Bayeux - NLP;daughter of a count Berengar, whom Rolf had taken captive on
a viking raid into Bayeux - The Conquest of England, Eric Linklater, p. 28;
WIVES.TXT (Comp) says parents were Guy de Senlis and Pepin II's daughter - NLP
;Royalty for Commoners says parents are Berenger and ? of Rennes - NLP
POPPA DE BAYEUX, daugher of BERENGER DE BAYEUX and ? DE RENNES, was the Duchess of Norway - Royalty for Commoners, Roderick W. Stuart, p. 124
Americans of Royal Descent, Charles H. Browning, p. 408 says parents were Pepin de Senlis de Bayeaux and - NLP
Pope of Rennes RENNES Pope - HAWKINS.GED
CHARL.TXT says parents were Pepin, King of Italy (b cir 815) and
CHARLEMG.ZIP (GS) says father was Pepin (no mother listed) - NPH
Lady Poppa (puppet or little doll) de Valois - http://misc.traveller.com/genealo gy/gedhtml/kmilburn/d0001/g0000037.htm#I2207
http://misc.traveller.com/genealo gy/gedhtml/kmilburn/d0001/g0000037.htm#I2207 says parents were Pepin de Senlis (d. AFT 893) & Countess Vermandois - NPH

OCCU Lady, of Valois ...
SOUR Royalty for Commoners, Roderick W. Stuart, p. 124;www.public.asu.edu/bgertz/
family says 872;misc.traveller.com/genealogy/gedhtml/kmilburn/ says 848;
gendex.com/users/daver/rigney/D0001 says 872, Evreux, Normandy, France
SOUR Royalty for Commoners, Roderick W. Stuart, p. 124;
www.public.asu.edu/bgertz/family/d0000 ;
Sometimes spelled Papie - COMYN4.TAF (Compuserve), p. 6;Popie de Senlis-COMYNJ
.TAF (Compuserve),p. 9; COMYNJ.TAF (Compuserve), p. 11 says father is Berenger
de Bayeux - NLP;daughter of a count Berengar, whom Rolf had taken captive on
a viking raid into Bayeux - The Conquest of England, Eric Linklater, p. 28;
WIVES.TXT (Comp) says parents were Guy de Senlis and Pepin II's daughter - NLP
;Royalty for Commoners says parents are Berenger and ? of Rennes - NLP
POPPA DE BAYEUX, daugher of BERENGER DE BAYEUX and ? DE RENNES, was the Duchess of Norway - Royalty for Commoners, Roderick W. Stuart, p. 124
Americans of Royal Descent, Charles H. Browning, p. 408 says parents were Pepin de Senlis de Bayeaux and - NLP
Pope of Rennes RENNES Pope - HAWKINS.GED
CHARL.TXT says parents were Pepin, King of Italy (b cir 815) and
CHARLEMG.ZIP (GS) says father was Pepin (no mother listed) - NPH
Lady Poppa (puppet or little doll) de Valois - http://misc.traveller.com/genealo gy/gedhtml/kmilburn/d0001/g0000037.htm#I2207
http://misc.traveller.com/genealo gy/gedhtml/kmilburn/d0001/g0000037.htm#I2207 says parents were Pepin de Senlis (d. AFT 893) & Countess Vermandois - NPH

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The following information is contained in a post-em by Curt Hofemann, (XXXXX@XXXX.XXX):
Poppa means puppet or little doll [Ref: McBride2] The name Poppa comes from Dudo, who calls her daughter of Count Berenger. [Ref: TAF 24 Dec 199
What I have in mind is her (Katherine Keats-Rohan) article on Poppa, mother of William Longsword of Normandy, which appeared in The American Genealogist a few years back. Basically, she suggested that Juhel/Judicael Berenger was son of a Count Berenger, named by Dudo and William of Juminges, and that both this Count Berenger and William Longsword were maternal grandchildren of an Earlier Frankish Count Berenger. I have seen it speculated (i.e. by Guillotel) that Judicael Berenger's paternal grandfather might have been a son or grandson of King Erispoe, but there was little evidence with which to place him. [Ref: TAF 21 Nov 2000]
parents: [Ref: ES II:75new], father: Berengar Count of Bayeux [Ref: Paget p135] called a dau of Count Berenger of Boyeux [Ref: Moriarty p11] said to be a daughter of count Berengar [Ref: Henry Project citing (Eric Christiansen, ed. & trans., Dudo of St. Quentin, History of the Normans (The Boydell Press, Woodbridge, Suffolk, 1998), Book ii Chapter 16 p38-9; Keats-Rohan, K. S. B., "Poppa of Bayeux and her Family", The American Genealogist 72 (1997), 187-204)
Research note 1: parents: Gui Count of Senlis & dau Pepin de Parmus [Ref: Moriarty p226]
Research note 2: father: Berenger Marquis of Newstria (d.896) [Ref: KeatsRohan Poppa p196]
Research note 3: father: Pepin Count of Senlis [Ref: Wurts p182]
Research note 4: Pepin de Senlis de Valois, Count Berengarius of Bretagne, who was living in 893. Pepin de Senlis de Valois was the father of Lady Poppa, the first wife of Rollo the Dane, 1st Duke of Normandy. [Ref: McBride2] married Rollo 886: date: danish wife [Ref: Moriarty p10] first and third wives of Rollo, repudiated but afterward remarried after 919 [Ref: Paget p135], names: [Ref: Henry Project citing (Eric Christiansen, ed. & trans., Dudo of St. Quentin, History of the Normans (The Boydell Press, Woodbridge, Suffolk, 1998), Book ii Chapter 16 p38-9; Keats-Rohan, K. S. B., "Poppa of Bayeux and her Family", The American Genealogist 72 (1997), 187-204), Moriarty p11, p226, 39 Tompsett, Wurts p422]

Poppa of Normandy de Valois is the daughter of Berenger of Bayeaux de Senlis, Count of Bayeaux.1 She married Rollo Ragnvaldsson, 1st Duc de Normandie, son of Ragnvald I 'the Wise' Eysteinsson, Earl of More and Ragnhild Hrolfsdottir, in 886.1
As a result of her marriage, Poppa of Normandy de Valois was styled as Duchesse de Normandie.
Children of Poppa of Normandy de Valois and Rollo Ragnvaldsson, 1st Duc de Normandie
Robert of Corbeil 1
Crespina de Normandie 1
Gerletta de Normandie 1
Kathlin de Normandie 1
Guillaume I 'Longsword', 2nd Duc de Normandie+ b. c 900, d. 17 Dec 9421
Adele de Normandie+ b. c 917, d. a 14 Oct 9621
Citations
[S106] Royal Genealogies Website (ROYAL92.GED), online ftp://ftp.cac.psu.edu/genealogy/public_html/royal/index.html. Hereinafter cited as Royal Genealogies Website.

Poppa De Valois Duchess of Normandy

Person Source
Pedigrees of the Barons, Philadelphia, PA: Brookfield Publishing Co,
1942.

#Générale##Générale#1ʻ femme

#Générale##Générale#2ʻ et 4ʻ femme

{geni:about_me} https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Poppa_of_Bayeux

http://genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00020056&tree=LEO


'''Poppa de Valois de Bayeux''', married to Rollo de Normandie.

Poppa was not a duchess, countess or princess, and her husband Rollo was not a duke but was referred to as "comes", a count.

It is not clear which of Berengar's wives was her mother.

NOTE: Keats-Rohan suggests that "the origin of Rollo's wife Poppa should be sought among the German Popponides, and that, specifically, that we see her as granddaughter of Henry of Thuringia, marquis of Neustria at his death in 878 and ancestor, through his daughter, of the Ottonians." [KSB Keat-Rohan, "Poppa 'of Bayeux' and her family," ''The American Genealogist'' 72 (1997), pp. 187-204]

==Medieval Lands==

* [http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/NORMANDY.htm#GuillaumeIdied942 FMG.ac]

Gange-Hrolf married:
m [secondly] ([886] or after, repudiated, remarried after 912) POPPA, daughter of BERENGAR Comte de Bayeux & his wife ---.

Guillaume of Jumièges records that Rollo took "Popa, fille de Bérenger, homme illustre" when he captured Bayeux and "s´unit avec elle, à la manière des Danois"[31]. According to Orderic Vitalis, Rollo "stormed and captured Bayeux, slew its count Berengar and took to wife his daughter Poppa"[32]. In another passage, the same source records that Rollo besieged Paris, captured Bayeux, killed "Berengarium comitem" and married his daughter Popa, in 886[33], although this date appears early in light of the likely birth date range of the couple's son Guillaume.
The Chronico Rotomagensis records that "mortua a Gisla, accepit Rollo propriam uxorem filiam comitis Silvanectensis Widonis"[34]. Robert of Torigny combines the information, recording that "Rollo dux Northmannorum" married "Popam prius repudiatam uxorem…filiam…Berengarii comitis Baiocensis neptem vero Widonis comitis Silvanectensis"[35].
The Historia Norwegie records that, after capturing Rouen, "Rodulfus" married the daughter of its deceased count by whom he was father of "Willelmum…Longosped"[36].
Guillaume de Jumièges records that "le comte Bernard" welcomed "son neveu Richard" (grandson of Rollo) at Senlis after his escape from captivity[37], although in another passage he describes how Rollo captured Bayeux and took "une très-noble jeune fille Popa, fille de Bérenger" in the town, marrying her "à la manière des Danois"[38], in a later passage adding that Rollo married Poppa, whom he had previously repudiated, a second time after the death of his wife[39]. It would be possible to reconcile the different versions if Comte Bernard's mother was married twice, her first husband being Bérenger Comte de Bayeux.

From http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/FRANKISH%20NOBILITY.htm

BERENGER (-[886 or after]). Comte de Bayeux. According to Orderic Vitalis, Rollo "stormed and captured Bayeux, slew its count Berengar and took to wife his daughter Poppa"[770]. In another passage, the same source records that Rollo besieged Paris, captured Bayeux, killed "Berengarium comitem" and married his daughter Popa, in 886[771], although this date appears early in light of the likely birth date range of the couple's son Guillaume.
m [as her first husband] --- [du Vexin], daughter of PEPIN [Carolingian] & his wife ---. Berengar & his wife had one child:

a) POPPA . According to Orderic Vitalis, Rollo "stormed and captured Bayeux, slew its count Berengar and took to wife his daughter Poppa"[772]. In another passage, the same source records that Rollo besieged Paris, captured Bayeux, killed "Berengarium comitem" and married his daughter Popa, in 886[773], although this date appears early in light of the likely birth date range of the couple's son Guillaume. The Chronico Rotomagensis records that "mortua a Gisla, accepit Rollo propriam uxorem filiam comitis Silvanectensis Widonis"[774]. Robert of Torigny combines the information, recording that "Rollo dux Northmannorum" married "Popam prius repudiatam uxorem…filiam…Berengarii comitis Baiocensis neptem vero Widonis comitis Silvanectensis"[775]. Guillaume de Jumièges records that "le comte Bernard" welcomed "son neveu Richard" (grandson of Rollo) at Senlis after his escape from captivity[776], although in another passage he describes how Rollo captured Bayeux and took "une très-noble jeune fille Popa, fille de Bérenger" in the town, marrying her "à la manière des Danois"[777], in a later passage adding that Rollo married Poppa, whom he had previously repudiated, a second time after the death of his wife[778]. It would be possible to reconcile the different versions if Comte Bernard's mother was married twice, her first husband being Bérenger Comte de Bayeux.

m (886 or after, repudiated, remarried after 912) as his second wife, ROLLO, later known as ROBERT I Comte [de Normandie], son of [RAGNVALD "the Wise" Jarl of Möre in Norway & his wife Ragnhild] ([846]-[928]).
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Poppa de Bayeux est la « frilla » (épouse à la manière danoise) du jarl des Normands Rollon et la mère du duc de Normandie Guillaume Longue-Épée. Ses origines restent obscures. Les historiens retiennent deux hypothèses :

* Selon Dudon de Saint-Quentin, elle serait la fille du comte Béranger de Bayeux. Alors que la ville de Bayeux est assiégée par des Vikings dirigés par Hrólf le Marcheur[1], ce dernier tue Béranger lors de la prise de la ville (885/889). Rollon enlève la jeune Poppa et la prend pour « frilla ».
* Selon les Annales de Jumièges, Popa serait la fille de Gui, comte de Senlis et la sœur de Bernard

Dans les deux cas, l’ascendance de Poppa est prestigieuse : Béranger serait l’un des deux marquis chargé de défendre la Neustrie contre les Normands tandis que Gui de Senlis descend par les femmes d’Evrard de Frioul.

Une autre hypothèse, moins prestigieuse, mais pour le moins aussi crédible, abordée par l'historien et spécialiste Jean Renaud, fait de Poppa une concubine de Hrólf, bergère venue des Hébrides.

De cette union naquirent au moins deux enfants : une fille nommée Gerloc (baptisée sous le prénom d’« Adèle ») et Guillaume Longue-Épée. Ce dernier naquit outre-mer alors que son père Rollon était encore païen. Il faut en déduire que cette naissance est antérieure au traité de Saint-Clair-sur-Epte en 911, date de la conversion et de l’installation définitive de Rollon en Normandie. Pour l’historien Pierre Bauduin, l’union entre Poppa et le chef normand atteste des liens précoce entre ce dernier et l’aristocratie franque et permet d’éclairer sous un nouveau jour l’accord de 911 : le roi Charles le Simple traite avec un personnage déjà en partie intégré au royaume carolingien.

Une statue au sommet d'une fontaine érigée Place de Gaulle à Bayeux représente Poppa.

Bibliographie
* Katharine S. B. Keats-Rohan, « Poppa de Bayeux et sa famille », dans Onomastique et Parenté dans l'Occident médiéval, Prosopographica et genealogica, Oxford, 2000, 310 p. (ISBN 1-900934-01-9), p. 140-153
* Pierre Bauduin, « Des raids scandinaves à l’établissement de la principauté de Rouen » dans Elisabeth Deniaux, Claude Lorren, Pierre Bauduin et Thomas Jarry, La Normandie avant les Normands, de la conquête romaine à l’arrivée des Vikings, éditions Ouest-France Université, Rennes, 2002 (ISBN 2-7373-1117-9) .
* Jean et Sigrid Renaud, Rollon, chef viking, éditions Ouest-France Université, 2006 (ISBN 978-2-7373-3592-1)
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All that is known of Poppa is that she was a Christian, and the daughter to Berengar of Rennes, the previous lord of what (Brittania Nova) became Normandy.

Lady Popie (the Poupee or Poppet), married 890 by Danish rites Rollo, the Dane. He was one of those men of the north, who were called Normans, a mixed nation of the fiercest Norwegian, Swedish and Danish tribes. They settled in Neustria in France at the beginning of the 10th Century, when King Charles the Simple conferred the duchy, since called Normandy on Rollo, the Dane, the most celebrated of the Norman leaders. He was expelled from Norway for an act of depredation in Viking contrary to the King's commands, having descended on the coast between Norway and Gothland and carried off the cattle wanted by his crew. His mother pleaded in vain for him, but for this act Rollo was declared an outlaw. Thus Rollo's outlawry led to the establishment of the Dukes of Normandy, who became, through William the Conqueror, King of England, 5th in descent from Rollo. Rollo married 2nd Gisela, daughter of King Charles the Simple, but did not have issue by her. On her death he took back Poppie and they were married by the Christian ceremony. Rollo died about 931.
(Kin of Mellcene Thurman Smith, page 278)

Little is known about his early years. He was born in Bayeux or Rouen to Rollo and his wife Poppa. All that is known of Poppa is that she was a Christian, and the daughter to Berengar of Rennes, the previous lord of Brittania Nova, which eventually became western Normandy.
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Poppa. All that is known of Poppa is that she was a Christian, and the daughter to Berengar of Rennes, the previous lord of Brittania Nova, which eventually became western Normandy. According to the William's planctus, he was baptised a Christian.
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Another site gives Poppas name as - Poppa De VALOIS

http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~goehring/fam1380.html
source : Christian Settipani, La Prehistoire des Capetians: 481-987, 1993 (Source Media Type: Book ABBR La Prehistoire des Capetians: 481-987 NS380393)

He married Poppa DE VALOIS 891. He died 931 in Notre Dame,Rouen,France. Poppa DE VALOIS, daughter of Berenger DE BAYEUX , was born 872 in Evreux,Normandy,France.

This is interesting since I much closer relative, Vallas/Vallois LaDue has a name very close to this family name.
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Familj med Robert 'Gånge-Rolf' Ragvaldsson av Normandie (870 - 932)
Vigsel: 886 1)

Barn:
Adele av Normandie (917 - 962)
Vilhelm I 'långsvärd' av Normandie (- 942)

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Källor
1) Directory of Royal Genealogical Data, Hull, England

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It is thought that Poppa, daughter of the Béranger, Count of Bayeux, was captured in a Viking raid on Bayeux and taken by Rollo as his wife.
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Poppa, Duchess of Normandy, was a Christian, and the daughter to Berengar of Rennes, the previous lord of Brittania Nova, which eventually became western Normandy.
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Poppa was Rollo's first wife. They had 5 childern. Rolla than repudiated Poppa and married Gisela in 912. they had 1 daughter. After Gisela died in 919 he remarried Poppa.
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From http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/NORMANDY.htm#GuillaumeIdied942

[m] [firstly] ---. The identity of Rollo´s first wife or concubine is not known.
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The Ancestry of
Poppa
wife of Rolf the Ganger
The ancestry of Poppa, wife of Rolf the Ganger, 1st Duke of Normandy, seems to have two versions. It now appears that Poppa was a daughter of Gui, Count of Senlis and not a daughter of Count Berenger of Bayeux. This makes Poppa, through her mother, a great granddaughter of King Bernard of Italy (b. 797, d. 818; King of Italy 813 - 817) King Bernard was a grandson of Charlemagne.

However, a very accessible and highly respected source, Frederick Lewis Weis: Ancestral Roots, Baltimore, 1999, Line 121E - 19 states:

GANGER ROLF, "The Viking" (or ROLLO), banished from Norway to the Hebrides ca. 867, 890 participated in Viking attack on Bayeux, where Count Berenger of Bayeux was killed, and his dau. Poppa captured and taken, 886, by Rollo (now called Count of Rouen) as his "Danish" wife. Under Treaty of St. Claire, 911, rec'd the Duchy of Normandy . . ..

For Line 121E, Weis gives as his source "Moriarty, The Plantagenet Ancestry, pp. 10-11, 13." This refers to the 300 page manuscript of George Andrews Moriarty: The Plantagenet Ancestry of King Edward III and Queen Philippa. Professor Moriarty (1883 - 1968) never felt that his work was "finished" and he never published his manuscript which was donated to New England Historical Genealogical Society in Boston. The manuscript was photocopied and printed by the Mormon Pioneer Genealogical Society, Salt Lake City, Utah, in 1985.

Here is the part of page 11 of Professor Moriarty's manuscript
from where Dr. Weis apparently drew his information:

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Please recall that Professor Moriarty felt that his work was never "finished"; and observe that he has a note to "See p. 226" under the details of Poppa.

Here the part of page 226 to which Professor Moriarty was referring:

Under the above passage, Professor Moriarty gave the following outline:

I have attempted to copy Professor Moriarty's manuscript as best I could: Poppa, Wife of Ganger Rolf
According to Dudon, William Longue Épeé of Normandy had as his 'avunculus' (maternal uncle) Count Bernard of Senlis, the friend and consellor of Hugh the Great. The Chronicon Rothomagense (Labbe Bibliotheca Manuscriptorum Nova, I, p. 365) ano 912 confirms this and stated that Rolf married the daughter of Count Gui de Senlis, so if Bernard were the son of Gui, he would be the 'avunculus" of William. Dudon, however calls Poppa the daughter of Count Berenger, but Dudon is not highly trustworthy. The name Bernard belongs in the family of the Counts of Vermandois, descended from Bernard, King of Italy. A Count Bernard, probably Bernard de Senlis is called be Flodoard (Annales ano 923, p. 15) the 'consobrinus' (cousin germain by the female side) of Herbert II Count of Vermandois.

The Belgian érudit, J. Dhondt, in his "Études sur la Naissance de Principautés Territoriales au France pp. 119/120 n.) (Bruges 1948), suggests that Gui Count of Senlis married a sister of Herbert I Count of Vermandois (see p. 6 anti) and had issue Bernard Count of Senlis and probably Poppa, wife of Rolf.

Finally, Professor Moriarty's outline or summary would be as follows: Pepin de Peronne, son of Bernard, King of Italy
Died after 846
His children included:
Herbert I Count of Vermandois, died between 900 and 904. His son:
Herbert II Count of Vermandois, died in 943
a daughter who married Gui, Count of Senlis. Their children:
Bernard Count of Senlis, adherent of Hugh the Great
Poppa who married Rolf, Count of Rouen

Hence, the best evidence to date seems to indicate that Poppa, wife of Rolf the Ganger, 1st Duke of Normandy, was a daughter of Gui, Count of Senlis and a great X3 granddaughter of Charlemagne

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Ben notes: There seems to be too much uncertainty about the family of Poppa to commit either way to a theory of her origin. About all that I can really feel certain about is that she was taken by Rollo in the sacking of Bayeux, and that she was an important captive (thus the idea that she was either the daughter of Berenger II de Neustria, or Guy of Senlis).

From the Foundation for Medieval Genealogy page on Normandy:
http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/NORMANDY.htm#Gerlocdiedafter969

Rollo married [secondly] ([886] or after, repudiated, remarried after 912) POPPA, daughter of BERENGAR Comte de Bayeux & his wife ---.

Guillaume of Jumièges records that Rollo took "Popa, fille de Bérenger, homme illustre" when he captured Bayeux and "s´unit avec elle, à la manière des Danois"[32]. According to Orderic Vitalis, Rollo "stormed and captured Bayeux, slew its count Berengar and took to wife his daughter Poppa"[33]. In another passage, the same source records that Rollo besieged Paris, captured Bayeux, killed "Berengarium comitem" and married his daughter Popa, in 886[34], although this date appears early in light of the likely birth date range of the couple's son Guillaume.

The Chronico Rotomagensis records that "mortua a Gisla, accepit Rollo propriam uxorem filiam comitis Silvanectensis Widonis"[35]. Robert of Torigny combines the information, recording that "Rollo dux Northmannorum" married "Popam prius repudiatam uxorem…filiam…Berengarii comitis Baiocensis neptem vero Widonis comitis Silvanectensis"[36]. The Historia Norwegie records that, after capturing Rouen, "Rodulfus" married the daughter of its deceased count by whom he was father of "Willelmum…Longosped"[37].

Guillaume de Jumièges records that "le comte Bernard" welcomed "son neveu Richard" (grandson of Rollo) at Senlis after his escape from captivity[38], although in another passage he describes how Rollo captured Bayeux and took "une très-noble jeune fille Popa, fille de Bérenger" in the town, marrying her "à la manière des Danois"[39], in a later passage adding that Rollo married Poppa, whom he had previously repudiated, a second time after the death of his wife[40]. It would be possible to reconcile the different versions if Comte Bernard's mother was married twice, her first husband being Bérenger Comte de Bayeux.

Robert & his [second] wife had two children:

1. GUILLAUME (Rouen [900/05]-murdered Pequigny 17 Dec 942, bur ---, transferred [1064] to Rouen Cathedral[48], succeeded Rollo as Guillaume I, Longespee or Longsword as Comte de Normandie, married firstly Sprota from Bretagne - possibly just a concubine, who later marries Esperleng de Pitres; secondly Luitgardis de Vermandois).
2. Gerloc (d. after 969, married Guillaume I, Tete d'Etoupe, Comte de Poitou and Duke of Aquitaine, OUR ANCESTOR).

From the French Wikipedia page on Poppa de Bayeux:
http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Poppa_de_Bayeux

Poppa de Bayeux est la « frilla » (épouse More danico")[1] du jarl des Normands Rollon et la mère du duc de Normandie Guillaume Longue-Épée. Ses origines restent obscures. Les historiens retiennent deux hypothèses :

1. Selon Dudon de Saint-Quentin, elle serait la fille du comte Béranger de Bayeux. Alors que la ville de Bayeux est assiégée par des Vikings dirigés par Hrólf le Marcheur[2], ce dernier tue Béranger lors de la prise de la ville (885/889). Rollon enlève la jeune Poppa et la prend pour « frilla ».
2. Selon les Annales de Jumièges, Popa serait la fille de Gui, comte de Senlis et la sœur de Bernard

Dans les deux cas, l’ascendance de Poppa est prestigieuse : Béranger serait l’un des deux marquis chargé de défendre la Neustrie contre les Normands tandis que Gui de Senlis descend par les femmes d’Evrard de Frioul.

Une autre hypothèse, moins prestigieuse, mais pour le moins aussi crédible, abordée par l'historien et spécialiste Jean Renaud, fait de Poppa une concubine de Hrólf, bergère venue des Hébrides.

De cette union naquirent au moins deux enfants : une fille nommée Gerloc (baptisée sous le prénom d’« Adèle ») et Guillaume Longue-Épée. Ce dernier naquit outre-mer alors que son père Rollon était encore païen. On pourrait en déduire que cette naissance est antérieure au traité de Saint-Clair-sur-Epte en 911, date de la conversion et de l’installation définitive de Rollon en Normandie. Pour l’historien Pierre Bauduin, l’union entre Poppa et le chef normand atteste des liens précoce entre ce dernier et l’aristocratie franque et permet d’éclairer sous un nouveau jour l’accord de 911 : le roi Charles le Simple traite avec un personnage déjà en partie intégré au royaume carolingien.

Une statue au sommet d'une fontaine érigée Place de Gaulle à Bayeux représente Poppa.

Bibliographie

Katharine S. B. Keats-Rohan, « Poppa de Bayeux et sa famille », dans Onomastique et Parenté dans l'Occident médiéval, Prosopographica et genealogica, Oxford, 2000, 310 p. (ISBN 1-900934-01-9), p. 140-153

Pierre Bauduin, « Des raids scandinaves à l’établissement de la principauté de Rouen » dans Elisabeth Deniaux, Claude Lorren, Pierre Bauduin et Thomas Jarry, La Normandie avant les Normands, de la conquête romaine à l’arrivée des Vikings, éditions Ouest-France Université, Rennes, 2002 (ISBN 2-7373-1117-9) .

Jean et Sigrid Renaud, Rollon, chef viking, éditions Ouest-France Université, 2006 (ISBN 978-2-7373-3592-1)

Notes

1.↑ Le mariage "more danico" ("à la danoise") ou "danesche manere" en normand, désigne le mode de polygynie pratiqué par les Vikings implantés en Normandie après le traité de Saint-Clair-sur-Epte.
2.↑ appelé plus tard Rollon, duc de Normandie

In English:

Poppa de Bayeux was the Danish-styled wife of Jarl of the Normans Rollo, and the mother of Duke of Normandy William Longsword. Her origins are obscure.

Historians have two hypotheses on where she came from:

1. According to Dudo of St-Quentin, she would be the daughter of the Comte de Bayeux Berenger. When the city of Bayeux was besieged by the Viking leader Hrolfr the Walker, Hrolfr kills her father at the storming of the city (885/889). Rollon takes young Poppa and makes her his "frills" (Danish-styled wife).
2. According to the Annals Jumieges, Poppa was the daughter of Gui, Comte de Senlis, and sister of Bernard.

In both cases, the ancestry of Poppa would be prestigious: Beranger was one of two people charged with defending Neustria against the Normans, and Guy of Senlis was married to Evrard of Friuli.

Another hypothesis, less prestigious but at least as credible, was suggested by historian and specialist Jean Renaud that she was a concubine of Hrolfr, taken as a shepherdess from the Hebrides.

This union had at least two children: a daughter named Gerloc (baptized under the name "Adele", OUR ANCESTOR), and William Longsword. William was born overseas while his father Rollo was still a pagan. This suggests that his birth preceded the Treaty of St-Clair-sur-Epte in 911, the date of conversion and final installation of Rollo in Normandy.

Historian Pierre Bauduiin believes that Poppa's marriage to the Norman chieftain attests to an early link between her and the Frankish aristocracy, and sheds light on the agreement of 911; King Charles the Simple was simply dealing with a character already partly integrated into the Carolingian kingdom.

A statue of Poppa sits atop a fountain erected in the Place de Gaulle in Bayeux.

Notes:

1. Marriage "more danico" (Danish-styled) or "danesche manere" in Norman means the way of polygyny practiced by the Vikings that established Normandy after the Treaty of St-Clair-sur-Epte.
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Poppa* DE VALOIS (Duchess of Normandy)
ABT 0872 - ____

* TITLE: Duchess of Normandy
* BIRTH: ABT 0872, Evreux,Nuestria,France

Father: Berenger* DE BAYEUX
Mother: Unknown* DE RENNES

Family 1 : Rolf* RAGNVALDSSON

* MARRIAGE: ABT 0886

1. Crespina of NORMANDY
2. Kathlin of NORMANDY
3. +Geirlaug* DE NORMANDY
4. Robert, Count of CORBEIL
5. +William I*
6. Adele of NORMANDY
7. +Mainfred DE PERCY
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There seem to be various opinions as to which Poppa should occuy this place. Poppa de Bayeux, etc.
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"Poppa"
She was associated with Rollo, comte de Rouen, as his "Danish wife," a prisoner he'd taken in battle.

She was a Christian.

See "My Lines"
( http://homepages.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~cousin/html/p45.htm#i5203 )
from Compiler: R. B. Stewart, Evans, GA
( http://homepages.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~cousin/html/index.htm )
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Ancestral Roots of Certain American Colonists, 7th Edition, by Frederick Lewis Weis, additions by Walter Lee Shippard Jr., 1999

# Note: Page: 121e-18
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General Notes

~Ancestral Roots of Certain American Colonists Who Came to America before 1700, 8th Edition, 121E:18, 1st Count of Normandy, banished from Normandy to the Hebrides. Took part in the Viking attck on Bayeux, where Count Berenger of Bayeux was killed, and his daughter Poppa captured and taken in 886, by Rollo as his "Danish" wife.

Information about this person:

• Dates & Events: Wife or mistress of Rollo "of Normandy", 10th century.
A wife or mistress of Rollo of Normandy, and mother of Rollo's son and successor William "Longsword", her name is reported only by the often unreliable Dudo [ii, 16 (pp. 38-9); iii, 36 (p. 57)] and by sources depending on him (hence the quotes around her name). The only certain fact that is known about her comes from the contemporary (or nearly so) Planctus of her son William, which states (without naming her) that she was a Christian, and that her son William was born overseas.

~Stewart Baldwin

"Poppa" married Hrolf "Ganger" Rognvaldsson Princeps Nortmannorum, son of Ragnivald "the Wise" Eysteinsson Jarl of More and Ranghilda Hrólfsson.167 (Hrolf "Ganger" Rognvaldsson Princeps Nortmannorum was born in 846-870 in Maer, Nord-Trondelag, Norway, baptized in 912, died in 929 in Normandy 160 and was buried in 929 in Notre Dame, Rouen, Normandy, France 160.)
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She was captured & taken by Rollo the Ganger Ragnvaldsson during Viking attack.
Rollo named her his "Danish" wife
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'''POPPA DUCHESS OF NORWAY DE VALOIS. She was born 872 in Evreux, Normandy, France.'''
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Barn:

William "Long-eper" av Normandie (- 942)

Adele av Normandie

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Poppa was Hrolf's "Rollo's" 1st wife or second concubine.
Rollo 'left' Poppa to marry King Charles illegitimate daughter Giselle, but returned to her after Giselle died. His marriage to Giselle was without issue.

Rollo possibly had about fourteen children but the four known to us today were probably Poppa’s.

"Papie", "Poppa of Bayeux", "Poppe de Rennes", "Poppa de Valois", "Papia"Duchesse de Normandie, Hertiginna av Normandie, Papia de Valois, Duchess of Normandy.

All that is known of Poppa is that she was a Christian, and the daughter to Berengar of Rennes, the previous lord of what (Brittania Nova) became Normandy.
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In her marriage to Rollo, she had the following children:

Gunnora b.? – d.1031

Herfastus b.900

Wavia b.903

Werina b.904

Duvelina b.905

Sainfria b.906
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She was captured & taken by Rollo the Ganger Ragnvaldsson during a Viking attack. Rollo named her his "Danish" wife.
Lady Popie (the Poupee or Poppet), married 890 by Danish rites Rollo, the Dane. He was one of those men of the north, who were called Normans, a mixed nation of the fiercest Norwegian, Swedish and Danish tribes. They settled in Neustria in France at the beginning of the 10th Century, when King Charles the Simple conferred the duchy, since called Normandy on Rollo, the Dane, the most celebrated of the Norman leaders. He was expelled from Norway for an act of depredation in Viking contrary to the King's commands, having descended on the coast between Norway and Gothland and carried off the cattle wanted by his crew. His mother pleaded in vain for him, but for this act Rollo was declared an outlaw. Thus Rollo's outlawry led to the establishment of the Dukes of Normandy, who became, through William the Conqueror, King of England, 5th in descent from Rollo.
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Poppa_of_Bayeux
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Poppa of Bayeux was the mistress or wife[1] (perhaps by more danico)[2] of Norman conqueror Rollo. She was the mother of William I, Duke of Normandy, and Gerloc. Chronicler Dudo of Saint-Quentin relates that she was the daughter of a count named Berenger, captured at Bayeux by Rollo in 885 or 889. This has led to speculation that she was the daughter of Berengar II of Neustria. A statue of Poppa stands at Place de Gaulle in Bayeux.

Poppa de Valois de Bayeux, married to Rollo de Normandie.

Poppa was not a duchess, countess or princess, and her husband Rollo was not a duke but was referred to as "comes", a count.

It is not clear which of Berengar's wives was her mother.

Medieval Lands

FMG.ac
Gange-Hrolf married: m [secondly] ([886] or after, repudiated, remarried after 912) POPPA, daughter of BERENGAR Comte de Bayeux & his wife ---.

Guillaume of Jumièges records that Rollo took "Popa, fille de Bérenger, homme illustre" when he captured Bayeux and "s´unit avec elle, à la manière des Danois"[31]. According to Orderic Vitalis, Rollo "stormed and captured Bayeux, slew its count Berengar and took to wife his daughter Poppa"[32]. In another passage, the same source records that Rollo besieged Paris, captured Bayeux, killed "Berengarium comitem" and married his daughter Popa, in 886[33], although this date appears early in light of the likely birth date range of the couple's son Guillaume. The Chronico Rotomagensis records that "mortua a Gisla, accepit Rollo propriam uxorem filiam comitis Silvanectensis Widonis"[34]. Robert of Torigny combines the information, recording that "Rollo dux Northmannorum" married "Popam prius repudiatam uxorem…filiam…Berengarii comitis Baiocensis neptem vero Widonis comitis Silvanectensis"[35]. The Historia Norwegie records that, after capturing Rouen, "Rodulfus" married the daughter of its deceased count by whom he was father of "Willelmum…Longosped"[36]. Guillaume de Jumièges records that "le comte Bernard" welcomed "son neveu Richard" (grandson of Rollo) at Senlis after his escape from captivity[37], although in another passage he describes how Rollo captured Bayeux and took "une très-noble jeune fille Popa, fille de Bérenger" in the town, marrying her "à la manière des Danois"[38], in a later passage adding that Rollo married Poppa, whom he had previously repudiated, a second time after the death of his wife[39]. It would be possible to reconcile the different versions if Comte Bernard's mother was married twice, her first husband being Bérenger Comte de Bayeux.

From http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/FRANKISH%20NOBILITY.htm

BERENGER (-[886 or after]). Comte de Bayeux. According to Orderic Vitalis, Rollo "stormed and captured Bayeux, slew its count Berengar and took to wife his daughter Poppa"[770]. In another passage, the same source records that Rollo besieged Paris, captured Bayeux, killed "Berengarium comitem" and married his daughter Popa, in 886[771], although this date appears early in light of the likely birth date range of the couple's son Guillaume. m [as her first husband] --- [du Vexin], daughter of PEPIN [Carolingian] & his wife ---. Berengar & his wife had one child:

a) POPPA . According to Orderic Vitalis, Rollo "stormed and captured Bayeux, slew its count Berengar and took to wife his daughter Poppa"[772]. In another passage, the same source records that Rollo besieged Paris, captured Bayeux, killed "Berengarium comitem" and married his daughter Popa, in 886[773], although this date appears early in light of the likely birth date range of the couple's son Guillaume. The Chronico Rotomagensis records that "mortua a Gisla, accepit Rollo propriam uxorem filiam comitis Silvanectensis Widonis"[774]. Robert of Torigny combines the information, recording that "Rollo dux Northmannorum" married "Popam prius repudiatam uxorem…filiam…Berengarii comitis Baiocensis neptem vero Widonis comitis Silvanectensis"[775]. Guillaume de Jumièges records that "le comte Bernard" welcomed "son neveu Richard" (grandson of Rollo) at Senlis after his escape from captivity[776], although in another passage he describes how Rollo captured Bayeux and took "une très-noble jeune fille Popa, fille de Bérenger" in the town, marrying her "à la manière des Danois"[777], in a later passage adding that Rollo married Poppa, whom he had previously repudiated, a second time after the death of his wife[778]. It would be possible to reconcile the different versions if Comte Bernard's mother was married twice, her first husband being Bérenger Comte de Bayeux.

m (886 or after, repudiated, remarried after 912) as his second wife, ROLLO, later known as ROBERT I Comte [de Normandie], son of [RAGNVALD "the Wise" Jarl of Möre in Norway & his wife Ragnhild] ([846]-[928]). -------------------- Poppa de Bayeux est la « frilla » (épouse à la manière danoise) du jarl des Normands Rollon et la mère du duc de Normandie Guillaume Longue-Épée. Ses origines restent obscures. Les historiens retiennent deux hypothèses :

* Selon Dudon de Saint-Quentin, elle serait la fille du comte Béranger de Bayeux. Alors que la ville de Bayeux est assiégée par des Vikings dirigés par Hrólf le Marcheur[1], ce dernier tue Béranger lors de la prise de la ville (885/889). Rollon enlève la jeune Poppa et la prend pour « frilla ». * Selon les Annales de Jumièges, Popa serait la fille de Gui, comte de Senlis et la sœur de Bernard
Dans les deux cas, l’ascendance de Poppa est prestigieuse : Béranger serait l’un des deux marquis chargé de défendre la Neustrie contre les Normands tandis que Gui de Senlis descend par les femmes d’Evrard de Frioul.

Une autre hypothèse, moins prestigieuse, mais pour le moins aussi crédible, abordée par l'historien et spécialiste Jean Renaud, fait de Poppa une concubine de Hrólf, bergère venue des Hébrides.

De cette union naquirent au moins deux enfants : une fille nommée Gerloc (baptisée sous le prénom d’« Adèle ») et Guillaume Longue-Épée. Ce dernier naquit outre-mer alors que son père Rollon était encore païen. Il faut en déduire que cette naissance est antérieure au traité de Saint-Clair-sur-Epte en 911, date de la conversion et de l’installation définitive de Rollon en Normandie. Pour l’historien Pierre Bauduin, l’union entre Poppa et le chef normand atteste des liens précoce entre ce dernier et l’aristocratie franque et permet d’éclairer sous un nouveau jour l’accord de 911 : le roi Charles le Simple traite avec un personnage déjà en partie intégré au royaume carolingien.

Une statue au sommet d'une fontaine érigée Place de Gaulle à Bayeux représente Poppa.

Bibliographie

* Katharine S. B. Keats-Rohan, « Poppa de Bayeux et sa famille », dans Onomastique et Parenté dans l'Occident médiéval, Prosopographica et genealogica, Oxford, 2000, 310 p. (ISBN 1-900934-01-9), p. 140-153 * Pierre Bauduin, « Des raids scandinaves à l’établissement de la principauté de Rouen » dans Elisabeth Deniaux, Claude Lorren, Pierre Bauduin et Thomas Jarry, La Normandie avant les Normands, de la conquête romaine à l’arrivée des Vikings, éditions Ouest-France Université, Rennes, 2002 (ISBN 2-7373-1117-9) . * Jean et Sigrid Renaud, Rollon, chef viking, éditions Ouest-France Université, 2006 (ISBN 978-2-7373-3592-1)
-------------------- All that is known of Poppa is that she was a Christian, and the daughter to Berengar of Rennes, the previous lord of what (Brittania Nova) became Normandy.

Lady Popie (the Poupee or Poppet), married 890 by Danish rites Rollo, the Dane. He was one of those men of the north, who were called Normans, a mixed nation of the fiercest Norwegian, Swedish and Danish tribes. They settled in Neustria in France at the beginning of the 10th Century, when King Charles the Simple conferred the duchy, since called Normandy on Rollo, the Dane, the most celebrated of the Norman leaders. He was expelled from Norway for an act of depredation in Viking contrary to the King's commands, having descended on the coast between Norway and Gothland and carried off the cattle wanted by his crew. His mother pleaded in vain for him, but for this act Rollo was declared an outlaw. Thus Rollo's outlawry led to the establishment of the Dukes of Normandy, who became, through William the Conqueror, King of England, 5th in descent from Rollo. Rollo married 2nd Gisela, daughter of King Charles the Simple, but did not have issue by her. On her death he took back Poppie and they were married by the Christian ceremony. Rollo died about 931. (Kin of Mellcene Thurman Smith, page 278) ----------------------- Daughter of Berenger of Rennes, the previous lord of Brittania Nova, which eventually becomes Western Normandy http://www.jbdaedal.com/shannon/4/1483.htm http://fabpedigree.com/s039/f070063.htm ------------------------

-------------------- Little is known about his early years. He was born in Bayeux or Rouen to Rollo and his wife Poppa. All that is known of Poppa is that she was a Christian, and the daughter to Berengar of Rennes, the previous lord of Brittania Nova, which eventually became western Normandy. -------------------- Poppa. All that is known of Poppa is that she was a Christian, and the daughter to Berengar of Rennes, the previous lord of Brittania Nova, which eventually became western Normandy. According to the William's planctus, he was baptised a Christian. -------------------- Another site gives Poppas name as - Poppa De VALOIS

http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~goehring/fam1380.html source : Christian Settipani, La Prehistoire des Capetians: 481-987, 1993 (Source Media Type: Book ABBR La Prehistoire des Capetians: 481-987 NS380393)

He married Poppa DE VALOIS 891. He died 931 in Notre Dame,Rouen,France. Poppa DE VALOIS, daughter of Berenger DE BAYEUX , was born 872 in Evreux,Normandy,France.

This is interesting since I much closer relative, Vallas/Vallois LaDue has a name very close to this family name. -------------------- Familj med Robert 'Gånge-Rolf' Ragvaldsson av Normandie (870 - 932) Vigsel: 886 1)

Barn: Adele av Normandie (917 - 962) Vilhelm I 'långsvärd' av Normandie (- 942)

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1) Directory of Royal Genealogical Data, Hull, England
-------------------- It is thought that Poppa, daughter of the Béranger, Count of Bayeux, was captured in a Viking raid on Bayeux and taken by Rollo as his wife. -------------------- Poppa, Duchess of Normandy, was a Christian, and the daughter to Berengar of Rennes, the previous lord of Brittania Nova, which eventually became western Normandy. -------------------- Poppa was Rollo's first wife. They had 5 childern. Rolla than repudiated Poppa and married Gisela in 912. they had 1 daughter. After Gisela died in 919 he remarried Poppa. -------------------- From http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/NORMANDY.htm#GuillaumeIdied942

[m] [firstly] ---. The identity of Rollo´s first wife or concubine is not known. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

-------------------- The Ancestry of Poppa wife of Rolf the Ganger

The ancestry of Poppa, wife of Rolf the Ganger, 1st Duke of Normandy, seems to have two versions. It now appears that Poppa was a daughter of Gui, Count of Senlis and not a daughter of Count Berenger of Bayeux. This makes Poppa, through her mother, a great granddaughter of King Bernard of Italy (b. 797, d. 818; King of Italy 813 - 817) King Bernard was a grandson of Charlemagne.
However, a very accessible and highly respected source, Frederick Lewis Weis: Ancestral Roots, Baltimore, 1999, Line 121E - 19 states:
GANGER ROLF, "The Viking" (or ROLLO), banished from Norway to the Hebrides ca. 867, 890 participated in Viking attack on Bayeux, where Count Berenger of Bayeux was killed, and his dau. Poppa captured and taken, 886, by Rollo (now called Count of Rouen) as his "Danish" wife. Under Treaty of St. Claire, 911, rec'd the Duchy of Normandy . . ..

For Line 121E, Weis gives as his source "Moriarty, The Plantagenet Ancestry, pp. 10-11, 13." This refers to the 300 page manuscript of George Andrews Moriarty: The Plantagenet Ancestry of King Edward III and Queen Philippa. Professor Moriarty (1883 - 1968) never felt that his work was "finished" and he never published his manuscript which was donated to New England Historical Genealogical Society in Boston. The manuscript was photocopied and printed by the Mormon Pioneer Genealogical Society, Salt Lake City, Utah, in 1985.
Here is the part of page 11 of Professor Moriarty's manuscript from where Dr. Weis apparently drew his information:

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Please recall that Professor Moriarty felt that his work was never "finished"; and observe that he has a note to "See p. 226" under the details of Poppa.
Here the part of page 226 to which Professor Moriarty was referring:

Under the above passage, Professor Moriarty gave the following outline:

I have attempted to copy Professor Moriarty's manuscript as best I could: Poppa, Wife of Ganger Rolf

According to Dudon, William Longue Épeé of Normandy had as his 'avunculus' (maternal uncle) Count Bernard of Senlis, the friend and consellor of Hugh the Great. The Chronicon Rothomagense (Labbe Bibliotheca Manuscriptorum Nova, I, p. 365) ano 912 confirms this and stated that Rolf married the daughter of Count Gui de Senlis, so if Bernard were the son of Gui, he would be the 'avunculus" of William. Dudon, however calls Poppa the daughter of Count Berenger, but Dudon is not highly trustworthy. The name Bernard belongs in the family of the Counts of Vermandois, descended from Bernard, King of Italy. A Count Bernard, probably Bernard de Senlis is called be Flodoard (Annales ano 923, p. 15) the 'consobrinus' (cousin germain by the female side) of Herbert II Count of Vermandois.
The Belgian érudit, J. Dhondt, in his "Études sur la Naissance de Principautés Territoriales au France pp. 119/120 n.) (Bruges 1948), suggests that Gui Count of Senlis married a sister of Herbert I Count of Vermandois (see p. 6 anti) and had issue Bernard Count of Senlis and probably Poppa, wife of Rolf.
Finally, Professor Moriarty's outline or summary would be as follows: Pepin de Peronne, son of Bernard, King of Italy Died after 846 His children included: Herbert I Count of Vermandois, died between 900 and 904. His son: Herbert II Count of Vermandois, died in 943 a daughter who married Gui, Count of Senlis. Their children: Bernard Count of Senlis, adherent of Hugh the Great Poppa who married Rolf, Count of Rouen

Hence, the best evidence to date seems to indicate that Poppa, wife of Rolf the Ganger, 1st Duke of Normandy, was a daughter of Gui, Count of Senlis and a great X3 granddaughter of Charlemagne

-------------------- Ben notes: There seems to be too much uncertainty about the family of Poppa to commit either way to a theory of her origin. About all that I can really feel certain about is that she was taken by Rollo in the sacking of Bayeux, and that she was an important captive (thus the idea that she was either the daughter of Berenger II de Neustria, or Guy of Senlis).

From the Foundation for Medieval Genealogy page on Normandy: http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/NORMANDY.htm#Gerlocdiedafter969

Rollo married [secondly] ([886] or after, repudiated, remarried after 912) POPPA, daughter of BERENGAR Comte de Bayeux & his wife ---.

Guillaume of Jumièges records that Rollo took "Popa, fille de Bérenger, homme illustre" when he captured Bayeux and "s´unit avec elle, à la manière des Danois"[32]. According to Orderic Vitalis, Rollo "stormed and captured Bayeux, slew its count Berengar and took to wife his daughter Poppa"[33]. In another passage, the same source records that Rollo besieged Paris, captured Bayeux, killed "Berengarium comitem" and married his daughter Popa, in 886[34], although this date appears early in light of the likely birth date range of the couple's son Guillaume.

The Chronico Rotomagensis records that "mortua a Gisla, accepit Rollo propriam uxorem filiam comitis Silvanectensis Widonis"[35]. Robert of Torigny combines the information, recording that "Rollo dux Northmannorum" married "Popam prius repudiatam uxorem…filiam…Berengarii comitis Baiocensis neptem vero Widonis comitis Silvanectensis"[36]. The Historia Norwegie records that, after capturing Rouen, "Rodulfus" married the daughter of its deceased count by whom he was father of "Willelmum…Longosped"[37].

Guillaume de Jumièges records that "le comte Bernard" welcomed "son neveu Richard" (grandson of Rollo) at Senlis after his escape from captivity[38], although in another passage he describes how Rollo captured Bayeux and took "une très-noble jeune fille Popa, fille de Bérenger" in the town, marrying her "à la manière des Danois"[39], in a later passage adding that Rollo married Poppa, whom he had previously repudiated, a second time after the death of his wife[40]. It would be possible to reconcile the different versions if Comte Bernard's mother was married twice, her first husband being Bérenger Comte de Bayeux.

Robert & his [second] wife had two children:

1. GUILLAUME (Rouen [900/05]-murdered Pequigny 17 Dec 942, bur ---, transferred [1064] to Rouen Cathedral[48], succeeded Rollo as Guillaume I, Longespee or Longsword as Comte de Normandie, married firstly Sprota from Bretagne - possibly just a concubine, who later marries Esperleng de Pitres; secondly Luitgardis de Vermandois). 2. Gerloc (d. after 969, married Guillaume I, Tete d'Etoupe, Comte de Poitou and Duke of Aquitaine, OUR ANCESTOR).

From the French Wikipedia page on Poppa de Bayeux: http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Poppa_de_Bayeux

Poppa de Bayeux est la « frilla » (épouse More danico")[1] du jarl des Normands Rollon et la mère du duc de Normandie Guillaume Longue-Épée. Ses origines restent obscures. Les historiens retiennent deux hypothèses :

1. Selon Dudon de Saint-Quentin, elle serait la fille du comte Béranger de Bayeux. Alors que la ville de Bayeux est assiégée par des Vikings dirigés par Hrólf le Marcheur[2], ce dernier tue Béranger lors de la prise de la ville (885/889). Rollon enlève la jeune Poppa et la prend pour « frilla ». 2. Selon les Annales de Jumièges, Popa serait la fille de Gui, comte de Senlis et la sœur de Bernard

Dans les deux cas, l’ascendance de Poppa est prestigieuse : Béranger serait l’un des deux marquis chargé de défendre la Neustrie contre les Normands tandis que Gui de Senlis descend par les femmes d’Evrard de Frioul.

Une autre hypothèse, moins prestigieuse, mais pour le moins aussi crédible, abordée par l'historien et spécialiste Jean Renaud, fait de Poppa une concubine de Hrólf, bergère venue des Hébrides.

De cette union naquirent au moins deux enfants : une fille nommée Gerloc (baptisée sous le prénom d’« Adèle ») et Guillaume Longue-Épée. Ce dernier naquit outre-mer alors que son père Rollon était encore païen. On pourrait en déduire que cette naissance est antérieure au traité de Saint-Clair-sur-Epte en 911, date de la conversion et de l’installation définitive de Rollon en Normandie. Pour l’historien Pierre Bauduin, l’union entre Poppa et le chef normand atteste des liens précoce entre ce dernier et l’aristocratie franque et permet d’éclairer sous un nouveau jour l’accord de 911 : le roi Charles le Simple traite avec un personnage déjà en partie intégré au royaume carolingien.

Une statue au sommet d'une fontaine érigée Place de Gaulle à Bayeux représente Poppa.

Bibliographie

Katharine S. B. Keats-Rohan, « Poppa de Bayeux et sa famille », dans Onomastique et Parenté dans l'Occident médiéval, Prosopographica et genealogica, Oxford, 2000, 310 p. (ISBN 1-900934-01-9), p. 140-153

Pierre Bauduin, « Des raids scandinaves à l’établissement de la principauté de Rouen » dans Elisabeth Deniaux, Claude Lorren, Pierre Bauduin et Thomas Jarry, La Normandie avant les Normands, de la conquête romaine à l’arrivée des Vikings, éditions Ouest-France Université, Rennes, 2002 (ISBN 2-7373-1117-9) .

Jean et Sigrid Renaud, Rollon, chef viking, éditions Ouest-France Université, 2006 (ISBN 978-2-7373-3592-1)

Notes

1.↑ Le mariage "more danico" ("à la danoise") ou "danesche manere" en normand, désigne le mode de polygynie pratiqué par les Vikings implantés en Normandie après le traité de Saint-Clair-sur-Epte. 2.↑ appelé plus tard Rollon, duc de Normandie

In English:

Poppa de Bayeux was the Danish-styled wife of Jarl of the Normans Rollo, and the mother of Duke of Normandy William Longsword. Her origins are obscure.

Historians have two hypotheses on where she came from:

1. According to Dudo of St-Quentin, she would be the daughter of the Comte de Bayeux Berenger. When the city of Bayeux was besieged by the Viking leader Hrolfr the Walker, Hrolfr kills her father at the storming of the city (885/889). Rollon takes young Poppa and makes her his "frills" (Danish-styled wife). 2. According to the Annals Jumieges, Poppa was the daughter of Gui, Comte de Senlis, and sister of Bernard.

In both cases, the ancestry of Poppa would be prestigious: Beranger was one of two people charged with defending Neustria against the Normans, and Guy of Senlis was married to Evrard of Friuli.

Another hypothesis, less prestigious but at least as credible, was suggested by historian and specialist Jean Renaud that she was a concubine of Hrolfr, taken as a shepherdess from the Hebrides.

This union had at least two children: a daughter named Gerloc (baptized under the name "Adele", OUR ANCESTOR), and William Longsword. William was born overseas while his father Rollo was still a pagan. This suggests that his birth preceded the Treaty of St-Clair-sur-Epte in 911, the date of conversion and final installation of Rollo in Normandy.

Historian Pierre Bauduiin believes that Poppa's marriage to the Norman chieftain attests to an early link between her and the Frankish aristocracy, and sheds light on the agreement of 911; King Charles the Simple was simply dealing with a character already partly integrated into the Carolingian kingdom.

A statue of Poppa sits atop a fountain erected in the Place de Gaulle in Bayeux.

Notes:

1. Marriage "more danico" (Danish-styled) or "danesche manere" in Norman means the way of polygyny practiced by the Vikings that established Normandy after the Treaty of St-Clair-sur-Epte. -------------------- Poppa* DE VALOIS (Duchess of Normandy) ABT 0872 - ____

* TITLE: Duchess of Normandy * BIRTH: ABT 0872, Evreux,Nuestria,France
Father: Berenger* DE BAYEUX Mother: Unknown* DE RENNES

Family 1 : Rolf* RAGNVALDSSON

* MARRIAGE: ABT 0886
1. Crespina of NORMANDY 2. Kathlin of NORMANDY 3. +Geirlaug* DE NORMANDY 4. Robert, Count of CORBEIL 5. +William I* 6. Adele of NORMANDY 7. +Mainfred DE PERCY
-------------------- There seem to be various opinions as to which Poppa should occuy this place. Poppa de Bayeux, etc. -------------------- "Poppa" She was associated with Rollo, comte de Rouen, as his "Danish wife," a prisoner he'd taken in battle.

She was a Christian.

See "My Lines" ( http://homepages.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~cousin/html/p45.htm#i5203 ) from Compiler: R. B. Stewart, Evans, GA ( http://homepages.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~cousin/html/index.htm ) -------------------- Ancestral Roots of Certain American Colonists, 7th Edition, by Frederick Lewis Weis, additions by Walter Lee Shippard Jr., 1999

Note: Page: 121e-18
-------------------- General Notes

~Ancestral Roots of Certain American Colonists Who Came to America before 1700, 8th Edition, 121E:18, 1st Count of Normandy, banished from Normandy to the Hebrides. Took part in the Viking attck on Bayeux, where Count Berenger of Bayeux was killed, and his daughter Poppa captured and taken in 886, by Rollo as his "Danish" wife.

Information about this person:

• Dates & Events: Wife or mistress of Rollo "of Normandy", 10th century. A wife or mistress of Rollo of Normandy, and mother of Rollo's son and successor William "Longsword", her name is reported only by the often unreliable Dudo [ii, 16 (pp. 38-9); iii, 36 (p. 57)] and by sources depending on him (hence the quotes around her name). The only certain fact that is known about her comes from the contemporary (or nearly so) Planctus of her son William, which states (without naming her) that she was a Christian, and that her son William was born overseas.

~Stewart Baldwin

"Poppa" married Hrolf "Ganger" Rognvaldsson Princeps Nortmannorum, son of Ragnivald "the Wise" Eysteinsson Jarl of More and Ranghilda Hrólfsson.167 (Hrolf "Ganger" Rognvaldsson Princeps Nortmannorum was born in 846-870 in Maer, Nord-Trondelag, Norway, baptized in 912, died in 929 in Normandy 160 and was buried in 929 in Notre Dame, Rouen, Normandy, France 160.) -------------------- She was captured & taken by Rollo the Ganger Ragnvaldsson during Viking attack. Rollo named her his "Danish" wife -------------------- POPPA DUCHESS OF NORWAY DE VALOIS. She was born 872 in Evreux, Normandy, France. -------------------- Barn:

William "Long-eper" av Normandie (- 942)

Adele av Normandie

-------------------- Poppa was Hrolf's "Rollo's" 1st wife or second concubine. Rollo 'left' Poppa to marry King Charles illegitimate daughter Giselle, but returned to her after Giselle died. His marriage to Giselle was without issue.

Rollo possibly had about fourteen children but the four known to us today were probably Poppa’s.

"Papie", "Poppa of Bayeux", "Poppe de Rennes", "Poppa de Valois", "Papia"Duchesse de Normandie, Hertiginna av Normandie, Papia de Valois, Duchess of Normandy.

All that is known of Poppa is that she was a Christian, and the daughter to Berengar of Rennes, the previous lord of what (Brittania Nova) became Normandy. -------------------- In her marriage to Rollo, she had the following children:

Gunnora b.? – d.1031

Herfastus b.900

Wavia b.903

Werina b.904

Duvelina b.905

Sainfria b.906 -------------------- She was captured & taken by Rollo the Ganger Ragnvaldsson during a Viking attack. Rollo named her his "Danish" wife. Lady Popie (the Poupee or Poppet), married 890 by Danish rites Rollo, the Dane. He was one of those men of the north, who were called Normans, a mixed nation of the fiercest Norwegian, Swedish and Danish tribes. They settled in Neustria in France at the beginning of the 10th Century, when King Charles the Simple conferred the duchy, since called Normandy on Rollo, the Dane, the most celebrated of the Norman leaders. He was expelled from Norway for an act of depredation in Viking contrary to the King's commands, having descended on the coast between Norway and Gothland and carried off the cattle wanted by his crew. His mother pleaded in vain for him, but for this act Rollo was declared an outlaw. Thus Rollo's outlawry led to the establishment of the Dukes of Normandy, who became, through William the Conqueror, King of England, 5th in descent from Rollo. -------------------- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Poppa_of_Bayeux -------------------- Poppa of Bayeux was the mistress or wife[1] (perhaps by more danico)[2] of Norman conqueror Rollo. She was the mother of William I, Duke of Normandy, and Gerloc. Chronicler Dudo of Saint-Quentin relates that she was the daughter of a count named Berenger, captured at Bayeux by Rollo in 885 or 889. This has led to speculation that she was the daughter of Berengar II of Neustria. A statue of Poppa stands at Place de Gaulle in Bayeux.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Poppa_of_Bayeux -------------------- http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Poppa_of_Bayeux

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Poppa de Valois de Bayeux, married to Rollo de Normandie.

Poppa was not a duchess, countess or princess, and her husband Rollo was not a duke but was referred to as "comes", a count.

It is not clear which of Berengar's wives was her mother.

NOTE: Keats-Rohan suggests that "the origin of Rollo's wife Poppa should be sought among the German Popponides, and that, specifically, that we see her as granddaughter of Henry of Thuringia, marquis of Neustria at his death in 878 and ancestor, through his daughter, of the Ottonians." [KSB Keat-Rohan, "Poppa 'of Bayeux' and her family," The American Genealogist 72 (1997), pp. 187-204]

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Gange-Hrolf married: m [secondly] ([886] or after, repudiated, remarried after 912) POPPA, daughter of BERENGAR Comte de Bayeux & his wife ---.

Guillaume of Jumièges records that Rollo took "Popa, fille de Bérenger, homme illustre" when he captured Bayeux and "s´unit avec elle, à la manière des Danois"[31]. According to Orderic Vitalis, Rollo "stormed and captured Bayeux, slew its count Berengar and took to wife his daughter Poppa"[32]. In another passage, the same source records that Rollo besieged Paris, captured Bayeux, killed "Berengarium comitem" and married his daughter Popa, in 886[33], although this date appears early in light of the likely birth date range of the couple's son Guillaume. The Chronico Rotomagensis records that "mortua a Gisla, accepit Rollo propriam uxorem filiam comitis Silvanectensis Widonis"[34]. Robert of Torigny combines the information, recording that "Rollo dux Northmannorum" married "Popam prius repudiatam uxorem…filiam…Berengarii comitis Baiocensis neptem vero Widonis comitis Silvanectensis"[35]. The Historia Norwegie records that, after capturing Rouen, "Rodulfus" married the daughter of its deceased count by whom he was father of "Willelmum…Longosped"[36]. Guillaume de Jumièges records that "le comte Bernard" welcomed "son neveu Richard" (grandson of Rollo) at Senlis after his escape from captivity[37], although in another passage he describes how Rollo captured Bayeux and took "une très-noble jeune fille Popa, fille de Bérenger" in the town, marrying her "à la manière des Danois"[38], in a later passage adding that Rollo married Poppa, whom he had previously repudiated, a second time after the death of his wife[39]. It would be possible to reconcile the different versions if Comte Bernard's mother was married twice, her first husband being Bérenger Comte de Bayeux.

From http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/FRANKISH%20NOBILITY.htm

BERENGER (-[886 or after]). Comte de Bayeux. According to Orderic Vitalis, Rollo "stormed and captured Bayeux, slew its count Berengar and took to wife his daughter Poppa"[770]. In another passage, the same source records that Rollo besieged Paris, captured Bayeux, killed "Berengarium comitem" and married his daughter Popa, in 886[771], although this date appears early in light of the likely birth date range of the couple's son Guillaume. m [as her first husband] --- [du Vexin], daughter of PEPIN [Carolingian] & his wife ---. Berengar & his wife had one child:

a) POPPA . According to Orderic Vitalis, Rollo "stormed and captured Bayeux, slew its count Berengar and took to wife his daughter Poppa"[772]. In another passage, the same source records that Rollo besieged Paris, captured Bayeux, killed "Berengarium comitem" and married his daughter Popa, in 886[773], although this date appears early in light of the likely birth date range of the couple's son Guillaume. The Chronico Rotomagensis records that "mortua a Gisla, accepit Rollo propriam uxorem filiam comitis Silvanectensis Widonis"[774]. Robert of Torigny combines the information, recording that "Rollo dux Northmannorum" married "Popam prius repudiatam uxorem…filiam…Berengarii comitis Baiocensis neptem vero Widonis comitis Silvanectensis"[775]. Guillaume de Jumièges records that "le comte Bernard" welcomed "son neveu Richard" (grandson of Rollo) at Senlis after his escape from captivity[776], although in another passage he describes how Rollo captured Bayeux and took "une très-noble jeune fille Popa, fille de Bérenger" in the town, marrying her "à la manière des Danois"[777], in a later passage adding that Rollo married Poppa, whom he had previously repudiated, a second time after the death of his wife[778]. It would be possible to reconcile the different versions if Comte Bernard's mother was married twice, her first husband being Bérenger Comte de Bayeux.

m (886 or after, repudiated, remarried after 912) as his second wife, ROLLO, later known as ROBERT I Comte [de Normandie], son of [RAGNVALD "the Wise" Jarl of Möre in Norway & his wife Ragnhild] ([846]-[928]).

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Poppa de Bayeux est la « frilla » (épouse à la manière danoise) du jarl des Normands Rollon et la mère du duc de Normandie Guillaume Longue-Épée. Ses origines restent obscures. Les historiens retiennent deux hypothèses :

* Selon Dudon de Saint-Quentin, elle serait la fille du comte Béranger de Bayeux. Alors que la ville de Bayeux est assiégée par des Vikings dirigés par Hrólf le Marcheur[1], ce dernier tue Béranger lors de la prise de la ville (885/889). Rollon enlève la jeune Poppa et la prend pour « frilla ». * Selon les Annales de Jumièges, Popa serait la fille de Gui, comte de Senlis et la sœur de Bernard

Dans les deux cas, l’ascendance de Poppa est prestigieuse : Béranger serait l’un des deux marquis chargé de défendre la Neustrie contre les Normands tandis que Gui de Senlis descend par les femmes d’Evrard de Frioul.

Une autre hypothèse, moins prestigieuse, mais pour le moins aussi crédible, abordée par l'historien et spécialiste Jean Renaud, fait de Poppa une concubine de Hrólf, bergère venue des Hébrides.

De cette union naquirent au moins deux enfants : une fille nommée Gerloc (baptisée sous le prénom d’« Adèle ») et Guillaume Longue-Épée. Ce dernier naquit outre-mer alors que son père Rollon était encore païen. Il faut en déduire que cette naissance est antérieure au traité de Saint-Clair-sur-Epte en 911, date de la conversion et de l’installation définitive de Rollon en Normandie. Pour l’historien Pierre Bauduin, l’union entre Poppa et le chef normand atteste des liens précoce entre ce dernier et l’aristocratie franque et permet d’éclairer sous un nouveau jour l’accord de 911 : le roi Charles le Simple traite avec un personnage déjà en partie intégré au royaume carolingien.

Une statue au sommet d'une fontaine érigée Place de Gaulle à Bayeux représente Poppa.

Bibliographie

* Katharine S. B. Keats-Rohan, « Poppa de Bayeux et sa famille », dans Onomastique et Parenté dans l'Occident médiéval, Prosopographica et genealogica, Oxford, 2000, 310 p. (ISBN 1-900934-01-9), p. 140-153 * Pierre Bauduin, « Des raids scandinaves à l’établissement de la principauté de Rouen » dans Elisabeth Deniaux, Claude Lorren, Pierre Bauduin et Thomas Jarry, La Normandie avant les Normands, de la conquête romaine à l’arrivée des Vikings, éditions Ouest-France Université, Rennes, 2002 (ISBN 2-7373-1117-9) . * Jean et Sigrid Renaud, Rollon, chef viking, éditions Ouest-France Université, 2006 (ISBN 978-2-7373-3592-1)

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All that is known of Poppa is that she was a Christian, and the daughter to Berengar of Rennes, the previous lord of what (Brittania Nova) became Normandy.

Lady Popie (the Poupee or Poppet), married 890 by Danish rites Rollo, the Dane. He was one of those men of the north, who were called Normans, a mixed nation of the fiercest Norwegian, Swedish and Danish tribes. They settled in Neustria in France at the beginning of the 10th Century, when King Charles the Simple conferred the duchy, since called Normandy on Rollo, the Dane, the most celebrated of the Norman leaders. He was expelled from Norway for an act of depredation in Viking contrary to the King's commands, having descended on the coast between Norway and Gothland and carried off the cattle wanted by his crew. His mother pleaded in vain for him, but for this act Rollo was declared an outlaw. Thus Rollo's outlawry led to the establishment of the Dukes of Normandy, who became, through William the Conqueror, King of England, 5th in descent from Rollo. Rollo married 2nd Gisela, daughter of King Charles the Simple, but did not have issue by her. On her death he took back Poppie and they were married by the Christian ceremony. Rollo died about 931. (Kin of Mellcene Thurman Smith, page 278)

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Daughter of Berenger of Rennes, the previous lord of Brittania Nova, which eventually becomes Western Normandy http://www.jbdaedal.com/shannon/4/1483.htm http://fabpedigree.com/s039/f070063.htm
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Little is known about his early years. He was born in Bayeux or Rouen to Rollo and his wife Poppa. All that is known of Poppa is that she was a Christian, and the daughter to Berengar of Rennes, the previous lord of Brittania Nova, which eventually became western Normandy.

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Poppa. All that is known of Poppa is that she was a Christian, and the daughter to Berengar of Rennes, the previous lord of Brittania Nova, which eventually became western Normandy. According to the William's planctus, he was baptised a Christian.
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Another site gives Poppas name as - Poppa De VALOIS

http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~goehring/fam1380.html source : Christian Settipani, La Prehistoire des Capetians: 481-987, 1993 (Source Media Type: Book ABBR La Prehistoire des Capetians: 481-987 NS380393)

He married Poppa DE VALOIS 891. He died 931 in Notre Dame,Rouen,France. Poppa DE VALOIS, daughter of Berenger DE BAYEUX , was born 872 in Evreux,Normandy,France.

This is interesting since I much closer relative, Vallas/Vallois LaDue has a name very close to this family name.

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Familj med Robert 'Gånge-Rolf' Ragvaldsson av Normandie (870 - 932) Vigsel: 886 1)

Barn: Adele av Normandie (917 - 962) Vilhelm I 'långsvärd' av Normandie (- 942)

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1) Directory of Royal Genealogical Data, Hull, England

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It is thought that Poppa, daughter of the Béranger, Count of Bayeux, was captured in a Viking raid on Bayeux and taken by Rollo as his wife.

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Poppa, Duchess of Normandy, was a Christian, and the daughter to Berengar of Rennes, the previous lord of Brittania Nova, which eventually became western Normandy.
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Poppa was Rollo's first wife. They had 5 childern. Rolla than repudiated Poppa and married Gisela in 912. they had 1 daughter. After Gisela died in 919 he remarried Poppa.
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From http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/NORMANDY.htm#GuillaumeIdied942

[m] [firstly] ---. The identity of Rollo´s first wife or concubine is not known. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

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The Ancestry of Poppa wife of Rolf the Ganger

The ancestry of Poppa, wife of Rolf the Ganger, 1st Duke of Normandy, seems to have two versions. It now appears that Poppa was a daughter of Gui, Count of Senlis and not a daughter of Count Berenger of Bayeux. This makes Poppa, through her mother, a great granddaughter of King Bernard of Italy (b. 797, d. 818; King of Italy 813 - 817) King Bernard was a grandson of Charlemagne.

However, a very accessible and highly respected source, Frederick Lewis Weis: Ancestral Roots, Baltimore, 1999, Line 121E - 19 states:

GANGER ROLF, "The Viking" (or ROLLO), banished from Norway to the Hebrides ca. 867, 890 participated in Viking attack on Bayeux, where Count Berenger of Bayeux was killed, and his dau. Poppa captured and taken, 886, by Rollo (now called Count of Rouen) as his "Danish" wife. Under Treaty of St. Claire, 911, rec'd the Duchy of Normandy . . ..

For Line 121E, Weis gives as his source "Moriarty, The Plantagenet Ancestry, pp. 10-11, 13." This refers to the 300 page manuscript of George Andrews Moriarty: The Plantagenet Ancestry of King Edward III and Queen Philippa. Professor Moriarty (1883 - 1968) never felt that his work was "finished" and he never published his manuscript which was donated to New England Historical Genealogical Society in Boston. The manuscript was photocopied and printed by the Mormon Pioneer Genealogical Society, Salt Lake City, Utah, in 1985.

Here is the part of page 11 of Professor Moriarty's manuscript from where Dr. Weis apparently drew his information:

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Please recall that Professor Moriarty felt that his work was never "finished"; and observe that he has a note to "See p. 226" under the details of Poppa.

Here the part of page 226 to which Professor Moriarty was referring:

Under the above passage, Professor Moriarty gave the following outline:

I have attempted to copy Professor Moriarty's manuscript as best I could: Poppa, Wife of Ganger Rolf

According to Dudon, William Longue Épeé of Normandy had as his 'avunculus' (maternal uncle) Count Bernard of Senlis, the friend and consellor of Hugh the Great. The Chronicon Rothomagense (Labbe Bibliotheca Manuscriptorum Nova, I, p. 365) ano 912 confirms this and stated that Rolf married the daughter of Count Gui de Senlis, so if Bernard were the son of Gui, he would be the 'avunculus" of William. Dudon, however calls Poppa the daughter of Count Berenger, but Dudon is not highly trustworthy. The name Bernard belongs in the family of the Counts of Vermandois, descended from Bernard, King of Italy. A Count Bernard, probably Bernard de Senlis is called be Flodoard (Annales ano 923, p. 15) the 'consobrinus' (cousin germain by the female side) of Herbert II Count of Vermandois.

The Belgian érudit, J. Dhondt, in his "Études sur la Naissance de Principautés Territoriales au France pp. 119/120 n.) (Bruges 1948), suggests that Gui Count of Senlis married a sister of Herbert I Count of Vermandois (see p. 6 anti) and had issue Bernard Count of Senlis and probably Poppa, wife of Rolf.

Finally, Professor Moriarty's outline or summary would be as follows: Pepin de Peronne, son of Bernard, King of Italy Died after 846 His children included: Herbert I Count of Vermandois, died between 900 and 904. His son: Herbert II Count of Vermandois, died in 943 a daughter who married Gui, Count of Senlis. Their children: Bernard Count of Senlis, adherent of Hugh the Great Poppa who married Rolf, Count of Rouen

Hence, the best evidence to date seems to indicate that Poppa, wife of Rolf the Ganger, 1st Duke of Normandy, was a daughter of Gui, Count of Senlis and a great X3 granddaughter of Charlemagne

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Ben notes: There seems to be too much uncertainty about the family of Poppa to commit either way to a theory of her origin. About all that I can really feel certain about is that she was taken by Rollo in the sacking of Bayeux, and that she was an important captive (thus the idea that she was either the daughter of Berenger II de Neustria, or Guy of Senlis).

From the Foundation for Medieval Genealogy page on Normandy: http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/NORMANDY.htm#Gerlocdiedafter969

Rollo married [secondly] ([886] or after, repudiated, remarried after 912) POPPA, daughter of BERENGAR Comte de Bayeux & his wife ---.

Guillaume of Jumièges records that Rollo took "Popa, fille de Bérenger, homme illustre" when he captured Bayeux and "s´unit avec elle, à la manière des Danois"[32]. According to Orderic Vitalis, Rollo "stormed and captured Bayeux, slew its count Berengar and took to wife his daughter Poppa"[33]. In another passage, the same source records that Rollo besieged Paris, captured Bayeux, killed "Berengarium comitem" and married his daughter Popa, in 886[34], although this date appears early in light of the likely birth date range of the couple's son Guillaume.

The Chronico Rotomagensis records that "mortua a Gisla, accepit Rollo propriam uxorem filiam comitis Silvanectensis Widonis"[35]. Robert of Torigny combines the information, recording that "Rollo dux Northmannorum" married "Popam prius repudiatam uxorem…filiam…Berengarii comitis Baiocensis neptem vero Widonis comitis Silvanectensis"[36]. The Historia Norwegie records that, after capturing Rouen, "Rodulfus" married the daughter of its deceased count by whom he was father of "Willelmum…Longosped"[37].

Guillaume de Jumièges records that "le comte Bernard" welcomed "son neveu Richard" (grandson of Rollo) at Senlis after his escape from captivity[38], although in another passage he describes how Rollo captured Bayeux and took "une très-noble jeune fille Popa, fille de Bérenger" in the town, marrying her "à la manière des Danois"[39], in a later passage adding that Rollo married Poppa, whom he had previously repudiated, a second time after the death of his wife[40]. It would be possible to reconcile the different versions if Comte Bernard's mother was married twice, her first husband being Bérenger Comte de Bayeux.

Robert & his [second] wife had two children:

1. GUILLAUME (Rouen [900/05]-murdered Pequigny 17 Dec 942, bur ---, transferred [1064] to Rouen Cathedral[48], succeeded Rollo as Guillaume I, Longespee or Longsword as Comte de Normandie, married firstly Sprota from Bretagne - possibly just a concubine, who later marries Esperleng de Pitres; secondly Luitgardis de Vermandois). 2. Gerloc (d. after 969, married Guillaume I, Tete d'Etoupe, Comte de Poitou and Duke of Aquitaine, OUR ANCESTOR).

From the French Wikipedia page on Poppa de Bayeux: http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Poppa_de_Bayeux

Poppa de Bayeux est la « frilla » (épouse More danico")[1] du jarl des Normands Rollon et la mère du duc de Normandie Guillaume Longue-Épée. Ses origines restent obscures. Les historiens retiennent deux hypothèses :

1. Selon Dudon de Saint-Quentin, elle serait la fille du comte Béranger de Bayeux. Alors que la ville de Bayeux est assiégée par des Vikings dirigés par Hrólf le Marcheur[2], ce dernier tue Béranger lors de la prise de la ville (885/889). Rollon enlève la jeune Poppa et la prend pour « frilla ». 2. Selon les Annales de Jumièges, Popa serait la fille de Gui, comte de Senlis et la sœur de Bernard

Dans les deux cas, l’ascendance de Poppa est prestigieuse : Béranger serait l’un des deux marquis chargé de défendre la Neustrie contre les Normands tandis que Gui de Senlis descend par les femmes d’Evrard de Frioul.

Une autre hypothèse, moins prestigieuse, mais pour le moins aussi crédible, abordée par l'historien et spécialiste Jean Renaud, fait de Poppa une concubine de Hrólf, bergère venue des Hébrides.

De cette union naquirent au moins deux enfants : une fille nommée Gerloc (baptisée sous le prénom d’« Adèle ») et Guillaume Longue-Épée. Ce dernier naquit outre-mer alors que son père Rollon était encore païen. On pourrait en déduire que cette naissance est antérieure au traité de Saint-Clair-sur-Epte en 911, date de la conversion et de l’installation définitive de Rollon en Normandie. Pour l’historien Pierre Bauduin, l’union entre Poppa et le chef normand atteste des liens précoce entre ce dernier et l’aristocratie franque et permet d’éclairer sous un nouveau jour l’accord de 911 : le roi Charles le Simple traite avec un personnage déjà en partie intégré au royaume carolingien.

Une statue au sommet d'une fontaine érigée Place de Gaulle à Bayeux représente Poppa.

Bibliographie

Katharine S. B. Keats-Rohan, « Poppa de Bayeux et sa famille », dans Onomastique et Parenté dans l'Occident médiéval, Prosopographica et genealogica, Oxford, 2000, 310 p. (ISBN 1-900934-01-9), p. 140-153

Pierre Bauduin, « Des raids scandinaves à l’établissement de la principauté de Rouen » dans Elisabeth Deniaux, Claude Lorren, Pierre Bauduin et Thomas Jarry, La Normandie avant les Normands, de la conquête romaine à l’arrivée des Vikings, éditions Ouest-France Université, Rennes, 2002 (ISBN 2-7373-1117-9) .

Jean et Sigrid Renaud, Rollon, chef viking, éditions Ouest-France Université, 2006 (ISBN 978-2-7373-3592-1)

Notes

1.↑ Le mariage "more danico" ("à la danoise") ou "danesche manere" en normand, désigne le mode de polygynie pratiqué par les Vikings implantés en Normandie après le traité de Saint-Clair-sur-Epte. 2.↑ appelé plus tard Rollon, duc de Normandie

In English:

Poppa de Bayeux was the Danish-styled wife of Jarl of the Normans Rollo, and the mother of Duke of Normandy William Longsword. Her origins are obscure.

Historians have two hypotheses on where she came from:

1. According to Dudo of St-Quentin, she would be the daughter of the Comte de Bayeux Berenger. When the city of Bayeux was besieged by the Viking leader Hrolfr the Walker, Hrolfr kills her father at the storming of the city (885/889). Rollon takes young Poppa and makes her his "frills" (Danish-styled wife). 2. According to the Annals Jumieges, Poppa was the daughter of Gui, Comte de Senlis, and sister of Bernard.

In both cases, the ancestry of Poppa would be prestigious: Beranger was one of two people charged with defending Neustria against the Normans, and Guy of Senlis was married to Evrard of Friuli.

Another hypothesis, less prestigious but at least as credible, was suggested by historian and specialist Jean Renaud that she was a concubine of Hrolfr, taken as a shepherdess from the Hebrides.

This union had at least two children: a daughter named Gerloc (baptized under the name "Adele", OUR ANCESTOR), and William Longsword. William was born overseas while his father Rollo was still a pagan. This suggests that his birth preceded the Treaty of St-Clair-sur-Epte in 911, the date of conversion and final installation of Rollo in Normandy.

Historian Pierre Bauduiin believes that Poppa's marriage to the Norman chieftain attests to an early link between her and the Frankish aristocracy, and sheds light on the agreement of 911; King Charles the Simple was simply dealing with a character already partly integrated into the Carolingian kingdom.

A statue of Poppa sits atop a fountain erected in the Place de Gaulle in Bayeux.

Notes:

1. Marriage "more danico" (Danish-styled) or "danesche manere" in Norman means the way of polygyny practiced by the Vikings that established Normandy after the Treaty of St-Clair-sur-Epte.

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Poppa* DE VALOIS (Duchess of Normandy) ABT 0872 - ____

* TITLE: Duchess of Normandy * BIRTH: ABT 0872, Evreux,Nuestria,France

Father: Berenger* DE BAYEUX Mother: Unknown* DE RENNES

Family 1 : Rolf* RAGNVALDSSON

* MARRIAGE: ABT 0886

1. Crespina of NORMANDY 2. Kathlin of NORMANDY 3. +Geirlaug* DE NORMANDY 4. Robert, Count of CORBEIL 5. +William I* 6. Adele of NORMANDY 7. +Mainfred DE PERCY

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There seem to be various opinions as to which Poppa should occuy this place. Poppa de Bayeux, etc.

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"Poppa" She was associated with Rollo, comte de Rouen, as his "Danish wife," a prisoner he'd taken in battle.

She was a Christian.

See "My Lines" ( http://homepages.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~cousin/html/p45.htm#i5203 ) from Compiler: R. B. Stewart, Evans, GA ( http://homepages.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~cousin/html/index.htm )

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Ancestral Roots of Certain American Colonists, 7th Edition, by Frederick Lewis Weis, additions by Walter Lee Shippard Jr., 1999
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General Notes

~Ancestral Roots of Certain American Colonists Who Came to America before 1700, 8th Edition, 121E:18, 1st Count of Normandy, banished from Normandy to the Hebrides. Took part in the Viking attck on Bayeux, where Count Berenger of Bayeux was killed, and his daughter Poppa captured and taken in 886, by Rollo as his "Danish" wife.

Information about this person:

• Dates & Events: Wife or mistress of Rollo "of Normandy", 10th century. A wife or mistress of Rollo of Normandy, and mother of Rollo's son and successor William "Longsword", her name is reported only by the often unreliable Dudo [ii, 16 (pp. 38-9); iii, 36 (p. 57)] and by sources depending on him (hence the quotes around her name). The only certain fact that is known about her comes from the contemporary (or nearly so) Planctus of her son William, which states (without naming her) that she was a Christian, and that her son William was born overseas.

~Stewart Baldwin

"Poppa" married Hrolf "Ganger" Rognvaldsson Princeps Nortmannorum, son of Ragnivald "the Wise" Eysteinsson Jarl of More and Ranghilda Hrólfsson.167 (Hrolf "Ganger" Rognvaldsson Princeps Nortmannorum was born in 846-870 in Maer, Nord-Trondelag, Norway, baptized in 912, died in 929 in Normandy 160 and was buried in 929 in Notre Dame, Rouen, Normandy, France 160.)

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She was captured & taken by Rollo the Ganger Ragnvaldsson during Viking attack. Rollo named her his "Danish" wife
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POPPA DUCHESS OF NORWAY DE VALOIS. She was born 872 in Evreux, Normandy, France.
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Barn:

William "Long-eper" av Normandie (- 942)

Adele av Normandie

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Poppa was Hrolf's "Rollo's" 1st wife or second concubine. Rollo 'left' Poppa to marry King Charles illegitimate daughter Giselle, but returned to her after Giselle died. His marriage to Giselle was without issue.

Rollo possibly had about fourteen children but the four known to us today were probably Poppa’s.

"Papie", "Poppa of Bayeux", "Poppe de Rennes", "Poppa de Valois", "Papia"Duchesse de Normandie, Hertiginna av Normandie, Papia de Valois, Duchess of Normandy.

All that is known of Poppa is that she was a Christian, and the daughter to Berengar of Rennes, the previous lord of what (Brittania Nova) became Normandy.

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In her marriage to Rollo, she had the following children:

Gunnora b.? – d.1031

Herfastus b.900

Wavia b.903

Werina b.904

Duvelina b.905

Sainfria b.906

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She was captured & taken by Rollo the Ganger Ragnvaldsson during a Viking attack. Rollo named her his "Danish" wife. Lady Popie (the Poupee or Poppet), married 890 by Danish rites Rollo, the Dane. He was one of those men of the north, who were called Normans, a mixed nation of the fiercest Norwegian, Swedish and Danish tribes. They settled in Neustria in France at the beginning of the 10th Century, when King Charles the Simple conferred the duchy, since called Normandy on Rollo, the Dane, the most celebrated of the Norman leaders. He was expelled from Norway for an act of depredation in Viking contrary to the King's commands, having descended on the coast between Norway and Gothland and carried off the cattle wanted by his crew. His mother pleaded in vain for him, but for this act Rollo was declared an outlaw. Thus Rollo's outlawry led to the establishment of the Dukes of Normandy, who became, through William the Conqueror, King of England, 5th in descent from Rollo.
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Poppa_of_Bayeux
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Poppa of Bayeux was the mistress or wife[1] (perhaps by more danico)[2] of Norman conqueror Rollo. She was the mother of William I, Duke of Normandy, and Gerloc. Chronicler Dudo of Saint-Quentin relates that she was the daughter of a count named Berenger, captured at Bayeux by Rollo in 885 or 889. This has led to speculation that she was the daughter of Berengar II of Neustria. A statue of Poppa stands at Place de Gaulle in Bayeux.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Poppa_of_Bayeux

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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Poppa_of_Bayeux
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Poppa de Valois de Bayeux, married to Rollo de Normandie.

Poppa was not a duchess, countess or princess, and her husband Rollo was not a duke but was referred to as "comes", a count.

It is not clear which of Berengar's wives was her mother.

Medieval Lands

FMG.ac Gange-Hrolf married: m [secondly] ([886] or after, repudiated, remarried after 912) POPPA, daughter of BERENGAR Comte de Bayeux & his wife ---.

Guillaume of Jumièges records that Rollo took "Popa, fille de Bérenger, homme illustre" when he captured Bayeux and "s´unit avec elle, à la manière des Danois"[31]. According to Orderic Vitalis, Rollo "stormed and captured Bayeux, slew its count Berengar and took to wife his daughter Poppa"[32]. In another passage, the same source records that Rollo besieged Paris, captured Bayeux, killed "Berengarium comitem" and married his daughter Popa, in 886[33], although this date appears early in light of the likely birth date range of the couple's son Guillaume. The Chronico Rotomagensis records that "mortua a Gisla, accepit Rollo propriam uxorem filiam comitis Silvanectensis Widonis"[34]. Robert of Torigny combines the information, recording that "Rollo dux Northmannorum" married "Popam prius repudiatam uxorem…filiam…Berengarii comitis Baiocensis neptem vero Widonis comitis Silvanectensis"[35]. The Historia Norwegie records that, after capturing Rouen, "Rodulfus" married the daughter of its deceased count by whom he was father of "Willelmum…Longosped"[36]. Guillaume de Jumièges records that "le comte Bernard" welcomed "son neveu Richard" (grandson of Rollo) at Senlis after his escape from captivity[37], although in another passage he describes how Rollo captured Bayeux and took "une très-noble jeune fille Popa, fille de Bérenger" in the town, marrying her "à la manière des Danois"[38], in a later passage adding that Rollo married Poppa, whom he had previously repudiated, a second time after the death of his wife[39]. It would be possible to reconcile the different versions if Comte Bernard's mother was married twice, her first husband being Bérenger Comte de Bayeux.

From http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/FRANKISH%20NOBILITY.htm

BERENGER (-[886 or after]). Comte de Bayeux. According to Orderic Vitalis, Rollo "stormed and captured Bayeux, slew its count Berengar and took to wife his daughter Poppa"[770]. In another passage, the same source records that Rollo besieged Paris, captured Bayeux, killed "Berengarium comitem" and married his daughter Popa, in 886[771], although this date appears early in light of the likely birth date range of the couple's son Guillaume. m [as her first husband] --- [du Vexin], daughter of PEPIN [Carolingian] & his wife ---. Berengar & his wife had one child:

a) POPPA . According to Orderic Vitalis, Rollo "stormed and captured Bayeux, slew its count Berengar and took to wife his daughter Poppa"[772]. In another passage, the same source records that Rollo besieged Paris, captured Bayeux, killed "Berengarium comitem" and married his daughter Popa, in 886[773], although this date appears early in light of the likely birth date range of the couple's son Guillaume. The Chronico Rotomagensis records that "mortua a Gisla, accepit Rollo propriam uxorem filiam comitis Silvanectensis Widonis"[774]. Robert of Torigny combines the information, recording that "Rollo dux Northmannorum" married "Popam prius repudiatam uxorem…filiam…Berengarii comitis Baiocensis neptem vero Widonis comitis Silvanectensis"[775]. Guillaume de Jumièges records that "le comte Bernard" welcomed "son neveu Richard" (grandson of Rollo) at Senlis after his escape from captivity[776], although in another passage he describes how Rollo captured Bayeux and took "une très-noble jeune fille Popa, fille de Bérenger" in the town, marrying her "à la manière des Danois"[777], in a later passage adding that Rollo married Poppa, whom he had previously repudiated, a second time after the death of his wife[778]. It would be possible to reconcile the different versions if Comte Bernard's mother was married twice, her first husband being Bérenger Comte de Bayeux.

m (886 or after, repudiated, remarried after 912) as his second wife, ROLLO, later known as ROBERT I Comte [de Normandie], son of [RAGNVALD "the Wise" Jarl of Möre in Norway & his wife Ragnhild] ([846]-[928]). -------------------- Poppa de Bayeux est la « frilla » (épouse à la manière danoise) du jarl des Normands Rollon et la mère du duc de Normandie Guillaume Longue-Épée. Ses origines restent obscures. Les historiens retiennent deux hypothèses :
•Selon Dudon de Saint-Quentin, elle serait la fille du comte Béranger de Bayeux. Alors que la ville de Bayeux est assiégée par des Vikings dirigés par Hrólf le Marcheur[1], ce dernier tue Béranger lors de la prise de la ville (885/889). Rollon enlève la jeune Poppa et la prend pour « frilla ». * Selon les Annales de Jumièges, Popa serait la fille de Gui, comte de Senlis et la sœur de Bernard

Dans les deux cas, l’ascendance de Poppa est prestigieuse : Béranger serait l’un des deux marquis chargé de défendre la Neustrie contre les Normands tandis que Gui de Senlis descend par les femmes d’Evrard de Frioul.

Une autre hypothèse, moins prestigieuse, mais pour le moins aussi crédible, abordée par l'historien et spécialiste Jean Renaud, fait de Poppa une concubine de Hrólf, bergère venue des Hébrides.

De cette union naquirent au moins deux enfants : une fille nommée Gerloc (baptisée sous le prénom d’« Adèle ») et Guillaume Longue-Épée. Ce dernier naquit outre-mer alors que son père Rollon était encore païen. Il faut en déduire que cette naissance est antérieure au traité de Saint-Clair-sur-Epte en 911, date de la conversion et de l’installation définitive de Rollon en Normandie. Pour l’historien Pierre Bauduin, l’union entre Poppa et le chef normand atteste des liens précoce entre ce dernier et l’aristocratie franque et permet d’éclairer sous un nouveau jour l’accord de 911 : le roi Charles le Simple traite avec un personnage déjà en partie intégré au royaume carolingien.

Une statue au sommet d'une fontaine érigée Place de Gaulle à Bayeux représente Poppa.

Bibliographie
•Katharine S. B. Keats-Rohan, « Poppa de Bayeux et sa famille », dans Onomastique et Parenté dans l'Occident médiéval, Prosopographica et genealogica, Oxford, 2000, 310 p. (ISBN 1-900934-01-9), p. 140-153 * Pierre Bauduin, « Des raids scandinaves à l’établissement de la principauté de Rouen » dans Elisabeth Deniaux, Claude Lorren, Pierre Bauduin et Thomas Jarry, La Normandie avant les Normands, de la conquête romaine à l’arrivée des Vikings, éditions Ouest-France Université, Rennes, 2002 (ISBN 2-7373-1117-9) . * Jean et Sigrid Renaud, Rollon, chef viking, éditions Ouest-France Université, 2006 (ISBN 978-2-7373-3592-1)
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All that is known of Poppa is that she was a Christian, and the daughter to Berengar of Rennes, the previous lord of what (Brittania Nova) became Normandy.

Lady Popie (the Poupee or Poppet), married 890 by Danish rites Rollo, the Dane. He was one of those men of the north, who were called Normans, a mixed nation of the fiercest Norwegian, Swedish and Danish tribes. They settled in Neustria in France at the beginning of the 10th Century, when King Charles the Simple conferred the duchy, since called Normandy on Rollo, the Dane, the most celebrated of the Norman leaders. He was expelled from Norway for an act of depredation in Viking contrary to the King's commands, having descended on the coast between Norway and Gothland and carried off the cattle wanted by his crew. His mother pleaded in vain for him, but for this act Rollo was declared an outlaw. Thus Rollo's outlawry led to the establishment of the Dukes of Normandy, who became, through William the Conqueror, King of England, 5th in descent from Rollo. Rollo married 2nd Gisela, daughter of King Charles the Simple, but did not have issue by her. On her death he took back Poppie and they were married by the Christian ceremony. Rollo died about 931. (Kin of Mellcene Thurman Smith, page 278) ----------------------- Daughter of Berenger of Rennes, the previous lord of Brittania Nova, which eventually becomes Western Normandy http://www.jbdaedal.com/shannon/4/1483.htm http://fabpedigree.com/s039/f070063.htm ------------------------

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Little is known about his early years. He was born in Bayeux or Rouen to Rollo and his wife Poppa. All that is known of Poppa is that she was a Christian, and the daughter to Berengar of Rennes, the previous lord of Brittania Nova, which eventually became western Normandy. -------------------- Poppa. All that is known of Poppa is that she was a Christian, and the daughter to Berengar of Rennes, the previous lord of Brittania Nova, which eventually became western Normandy. According to the William's planctus, he was baptised a Christian. -------------------- Another site gives Poppas name as - Poppa De VALOIS

http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~goehring/fam1380.html source : Christian Settipani, La Prehistoire des Capetians: 481-987, 1993 (Source Media Type: Book ABBR La Prehistoire des Capetians: 481-987 NS380393)

He married Poppa DE VALOIS 891. He died 931 in Notre Dame,Rouen,France. Poppa DE VALOIS, daughter of Berenger DE BAYEUX , was born 872 in Evreux,Normandy,France.

This is interesting since I much closer relative, Vallas/Vallois LaDue has a name very close to this family name. -------------------- Familj med Robert 'Gånge-Rolf' Ragvaldsson av Normandie (870 - 932) Vigsel: 886 1)

Barn: Adele av Normandie (917 - 962) Vilhelm I 'långsvärd' av Normandie (- 942)

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1) Directory of Royal Genealogical Data, Hull, England

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It is thought that Poppa, daughter of the Béranger, Count of Bayeux, was captured in a Viking raid on Bayeux and taken by Rollo as his wife. -------------------- Poppa, Duchess of Normandy, was a Christian, and the daughter to Berengar of Rennes, the previous lord of Brittania Nova, which eventually became western Normandy. -------------------- Poppa was Rollo's first wife. They had 5 childern. Rolla than repudiated Poppa and married Gisela in 912. they had 1 daughter. After Gisela died in 919 he remarried Poppa. -------------------- From http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/NORMANDY.htm#GuillaumeIdied942

[m] [firstly] ---. The identity of Rollo´s first wife or concubine is not known. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

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The Ancestry of Poppa wife of Rolf the Ganger

The ancestry of Poppa, wife of Rolf the Ganger, 1st Duke of Normandy, seems to have two versions. It now appears that Poppa was a daughter of Gui, Count of Senlis and not a daughter of Count Berenger of Bayeux. This makes Poppa, through her mother, a great granddaughter of King Bernard of Italy (b. 797, d. 818; King of Italy 813 - 817) King Bernard was a grandson of Charlemagne. However, a very accessible and highly respected source, Frederick Lewis Weis: Ancestral Roots, Baltimore, 1999, Line 121E - 19 states: GANGER ROLF, "The Viking" (or ROLLO), banished from Norway to the Hebrides ca. 867, 890 participated in Viking attack on Bayeux, where Count Berenger of Bayeux was killed, and his dau. Poppa captured and taken, 886, by Rollo (now called Count of Rouen) as his "Danish" wife. Under Treaty of St. Claire, 911, rec'd the Duchy of Normandy . . ..

For Line 121E, Weis gives as his source "Moriarty, The Plantagenet Ancestry, pp. 10-11, 13." This refers to the 300 page manuscript of George Andrews Moriarty: The Plantagenet Ancestry of King Edward III and Queen Philippa. Professor Moriarty (1883 - 1968) never felt that his work was "finished" and he never published his manuscript which was donated to New England Historical Genealogical Society in Boston. The manuscript was photocopied and printed by the Mormon Pioneer Genealogical Society, Salt Lake City, Utah, in 1985. Here is the part of page 11 of Professor Moriarty's manuscript from where Dr. Weis apparently drew his information:

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Please recall that Professor Moriarty felt that his work was never "finished"; and observe that he has a note to "See p. 226" under the details of Poppa. Here the part of page 226 to which Professor Moriarty was referring:

Under the above passage, Professor Moriarty gave the following outline:

I have attempted to copy Professor Moriarty's manuscript as best I could: Poppa, Wife of Ganger Rolf

According to Dudon, William Longue Épeé of Normandy had as his 'avunculus' (maternal uncle) Count Bernard of Senlis, the friend and consellor of Hugh the Great. The Chronicon Rothomagense (Labbe Bibliotheca Manuscriptorum Nova, I, p. 365) ano 912 confirms this and stated that Rolf married the daughter of Count Gui de Senlis, so if Bernard were the son of Gui, he would be the 'avunculus" of William. Dudon, however calls Poppa the daughter of Count Berenger, but Dudon is not highly trustworthy. The name Bernard belongs in the family of the Counts of Vermandois, descended from Bernard, King of Italy. A Count Bernard, probably Bernard de Senlis is called be Flodoard (Annales ano 923, p. 15) the 'consobrinus' (cousin germain by the female side) of Herbert II Count of Vermandois. The Belgian érudit, J. Dhondt, in his "Études sur la Naissance de Principautés Territoriales au France pp. 119/120 n.) (Bruges 1948), suggests that Gui Count of Senlis married a sister of Herbert I Count of Vermandois (see p. 6 anti) and had issue Bernard Count of Senlis and probably Poppa, wife of Rolf. Finally, Professor Moriarty's outline or summary would be as follows: Pepin de Peronne, son of Bernard, King of Italy Died after 846 His children included: Herbert I Count of Vermandois, died between 900 and 904. His son: Herbert II Count of Vermandois, died in 943 a daughter who married Gui, Count of Senlis. Their children: Bernard Count of Senlis, adherent of Hugh the Great Poppa who married Rolf, Count of Rouen

Hence, the best evidence to date seems to indicate that Poppa, wife of Rolf the Ganger, 1st Duke of Normandy, was a daughter of Gui, Count of Senlis and a great X3 granddaughter of Charlemagne

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Ben notes: There seems to be too much uncertainty about the family of Poppa to commit either way to a theory of her origin. About all that I can really feel certain about is that she was taken by Rollo in the sacking of Bayeux, and that she was an important captive (thus the idea that she was either the daughter of Berenger II de Neustria, or Guy of Senlis).

From the Foundation for Medieval Genealogy page on Normandy: http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/NORMANDY.htm#Gerlocdiedafter969

Rollo married [secondly] ([886] or after, repudiated, remarried after 912) POPPA, daughter of BERENGAR Comte de Bayeux & his wife ---.

Guillaume of Jumièges records that Rollo took "Popa, fille de Bérenger, homme illustre" when he captured Bayeux and "s´unit avec elle, à la manière des Danois"[32]. According to Orderic Vitalis, Rollo "stormed and captured Bayeux, slew its count Berengar and took to wife his daughter Poppa"[33]. In another passage, the same source records that Rollo besieged Paris, captured Bayeux, killed "Berengarium comitem" and married his daughter Popa, in 886[34], although this date appears early in light of the likely birth date range of the couple's son Guillaume.

The Chronico Rotomagensis records that "mortua a Gisla, accepit Rollo propriam uxorem

Second husband: Balso of Bayeux.

CHILDREN
Name: Gerberge
Born: ABT 897 at: France
Married: 935 at:
Died: 14 OCT 962 at:
Spouses: Vilhelm III av Guienne
Name: Vilhjalm Langspyd Gange-Rolvson
Born: ABT 900 at: France

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Was a pagan. Also known as Popa or Papie.

Was a pagan. Also known as Popa or Papie.

GIVN Popa or Papie
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TITL Via a gedcom from Compuserve by Jack McDonald which gave the rather
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PLAC Duchesse de Normandie

OCCU Lady, of Valois ...
SOUR Royalty for Commoners, Roderick W. Stuart, p. 124;www.public.asu.edu/bgertz/
family says 872;misc.traveller.com/genealogy/gedhtml/kmilburn/ says 848;
gendex.com/users/daver/rigney/D0001 says 872, Evreux, Normandy, France
SOUR Royalty for Commoners, Roderick W. Stuart, p. 124;
www.public.asu.edu/bgertz/family/d0000 ;
Sometimes spelled Papie - COMYN4.TAF (Compuserve), p. 6;Popie de Senlis-COMYNJ
.TAF (Compuserve),p. 9; COMYNJ.TAF (Compuserve), p. 11 says father is Berenger
de Bayeux - NLP;daughter of a count Berengar, whom Rolf had taken captive on
a viking raid into Bayeux - The Conquest of England, Eric Linklater, p. 28;
WIVES.TXT (Comp) says parents were Guy de Senlis and Pepin II's daughter - NLP
;Royalty for Commoners says parents are Berenger and ? of Rennes - NLP
POPPA DE BAYEUX, daugher of BERENGER DE BAYEUX and ? DE RENNES, was the Duchess of Norway - Royalty for Commoners, Roderick W. Stuart, p. 124
Americans of Royal Descent, Charles H. Browning, p. 408 says parents were Pepin de Senlis de Bayeaux and - NLP
Pope of Rennes RENNES Pope - HAWKINS.GED
CHARL.TXT says parents were Pepin, King of Italy (b cir 815) and
CHARLEMG.ZIP (GS) says father was Pepin (no mother listed) - NPH
Lady Poppa (puppet or little doll) de Valois - http://misc.traveller.com/genealogy/gedhtml/kmilburn/d0001/g0000037.htm#I2207
http://misc.traveller.com/genealogy/gedhtml/kmilburn/d0001/g0000037.htm#I2207 says parents were Pepin de Senlis (d. AFT 893) & Countess Vermandois - NPH

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OCCU Lady, of Valois ...
SOUR Royalty for Commoners, Roderick W. Stuart, p. 124;www.public.asu.edu/bgertz/
family says 872;misc.traveller.com/genealogy/gedhtml/kmilburn/ says 848;
gendex.com/users/daver/rigney/D0001 says 872, Evreux, Normandy, France
SOUR Royalty for Commoners, Roderick W. Stuart, p. 124;
www.public.asu.edu/bgertz/family/d0000 ;
Sometimes spelled Papie - COMYN4.TAF (Compuserve), p. 6;Popie de Senlis-COMYNJ
.TAF (Compuserve),p. 9; COMYNJ.TAF (Compuserve), p. 11 says father is Berenger
de Bayeux - NLP;daughter of a count Berengar, whom Rolf had taken captive on
a viking raid into Bayeux - The Conquest of England, Eric Linklater, p. 28;
WIVES.TXT (Comp) says parents were Guy de Senlis and Pepin II's daughter - NLP
;Royalty for Commoners says parents are Berenger and ? of Rennes - NLP
POPPA DE BAYEUX, daugher of BERENGER DE BAYEUX and ? DE RENNES, was the Duchess of Norway - Royalty for Commoners, Roderick W. Stuart, p. 124
Americans of Royal Descent, Charles H. Browning, p. 408 says parents were Pepin de Senlis de Bayeaux and - NLP
Pope of Rennes RENNES Pope - HAWKINS.GED
CHARL.TXT says parents were Pepin, King of Italy (b cir 815) and
CHARLEMG.ZIP (GS) says father was Pepin (no mother listed) - NPH
Lady Poppa (puppet or little doll) de Valois - http://misc.traveller.com/genealogy/gedhtml/kmilburn/d0001/g0000037.htm#I2207
http://misc.traveller.com/genealogy/gedhtml/kmilburn/d0001/g0000037.htm#I2207 says parents were Pepin de Senlis (d. AFT 893) & Countess Vermandois - NPH

OCCU Lady, of Valois ...
SOUR Royalty for Commoners, Roderick W. Stuart, p. 124;www.public.asu.edu/bgertz/
family says 872;misc.traveller.com/genealogy/gedhtml/kmilburn/ says 848;
gendex.com/users/daver/rigney/D0001 says 872, Evreux, Normandy, France
SOUR Royalty for Commoners, Roderick W. Stuart, p. 124;
www.public.asu.edu/bgertz/family/d0000 ;
Sometimes spelled Papie - COMYN4.TAF (Compuserve), p. 6;Popie de Senlis-COMYNJ
.TAF (Compuserve),p. 9; COMYNJ.TAF (Compuserve), p. 11 says father is Berenger
de Bayeux - NLP;daughter of a count Berengar, whom Rolf had taken captive on
a viking raid into Bayeux - The Conquest of England, Eric Linklater, p. 28;
WIVES.TXT (Comp) says parents were Guy de Senlis and Pepin II's daughter - NLP
;Royalty for Commoners says parents are Berenger and ? of Rennes - NLP
POPPA DE BAYEUX, daugher of BERENGER DE BAYEUX and ? DE RENNES, was the Duchess of Norway - Royalty for Commoners, Roderick W. Stuart, p. 124
Americans of Royal Descent, Charles H. Browning, p. 408 says parents were Pepin de Senlis de Bayeaux and - NLP
Pope of Rennes RENNES Pope - HAWKINS.GED
CHARL.TXT says parents were Pepin, King of Italy (b cir 815) and
CHARLEMG.ZIP (GS) says father was Pepin (no mother listed) - NPH
Lady Poppa (puppet or little doll) de Valois - http://misc.traveller.com/genealogy/gedhtml/kmilburn/d0001/g0000037.htm#I2207
http://misc.traveller.com/genealogy/gedhtml/kmilburn/d0001/g0000037.htm#I2207 says parents were Pepin de Senlis (d. AFT 893) & Countess Vermandois - NPH

I wish I was sure of every name in this file & that I didnt
need to know what you think :) hey, but always refining this,
So if you spot a place where Im just flat wrong please tell
me or someone I didnt go on out with, I do this file out of fun and wanting to know, but do not
respond to the 'know it alls' , that dont have manners.I dont
consider them Kin!
Thanks and Happy Hunting!

I wish I was sure of every name in this file & that I didnt
need to know what you think :) hey, but always refining this,
So if you spot a place where Im just flat wrong please tell
me or someone I didnt go on out with, I do this file out of fun and wanting to know, but do not
respond to the 'know it alls' , that dont have manners.I dont
consider them Kin!
Thanks and Happy Hunting!

According to Stuart--Royalty for Commoners 1-3 & Weis Ancestral Roots 4-10

Sources: A. Roots 121E; RC 162, 166; Kraentzler 1160, 1443, 1453; Coe,AF and
Pfafman; Davis; Norr, p59.
Roots: Poppa
Duchess of Norway. Also called Poppa de Valoise. Other names: Papia,Papa,
Papie, Popa.
Davis: Popa, daugher of Frankis Count of Bayeux.
Norr: Poppa de Bayeuc [sic] (or de Valois), daughter of Count ofBayeau.
2nd wife.

The vast majority of the information presented is obtained from online sources. While I believe it to be accurate, caution must be taken to always be careful of its validity.
Please do contact me if you find errors or have questions.

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Was a pagan. Also known as Popa or Papie.

Was a pagan. Also known as Popa or Papie.

GIVN Popa or Papie
ABBR Gary Boyd Roberts Book
TITL Via a gedcom from Compuserve by Jack McDonald which gave the rather
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AUTH Gary Boyd Roberts

EVEN
TYPE Title (Facts Pg)
PLAC Duchesse de Normandie

OCCU Lady, of Valois ...
SOUR Royalty for Commoners, Roderick W. Stuart, p. 124;www.public.asu.edu/bgertz/
family says 872;misc.traveller.com/genealogy/gedhtml/kmilburn/ says 848;
gendex.com/users/daver/rigney/D0001 says 872, Evreux, Normandy, France
SOUR Royalty for Commoners, Roderick W. Stuart, p. 124;
www.public.asu.edu/bgertz/family/d0000 ;
Sometimes spelled Papie - COMYN4.TAF (Compuserve), p. 6;Popie de Senlis-COMYNJ
.TAF (Compuserve),p. 9; COMYNJ.TAF (Compuserve), p. 11 says father is Berenger
de Bayeux - NLP;daughter of a count Berengar, whom Rolf had taken captive on
a viking raid into Bayeux - The Conquest of England, Eric Linklater, p. 28;
WIVES.TXT (Comp) says parents were Guy de Senlis and Pepin II's daughter - NLP
;Royalty for Commoners says parents are Berenger and ? of Rennes - NLP
POPPA DE BAYEUX, daugher of BERENGER DE BAYEUX and ? DE RENNES, was the Duchess of Norway - Royalty for Commoners, Roderick W. Stuart, p. 124
Americans of Royal Descent, Charles H. Browning, p. 408 says parents were Pepin de Senlis de Bayeaux and - NLP
Pope of Rennes RENNES Pope - HAWKINS.GED
CHARL.TXT says parents were Pepin, King of Italy (b cir 815) and
CHARLEMG.ZIP (GS) says father was Pepin (no mother listed) - NPH
Lady Poppa (puppet or little doll) de Valois - http://misc.traveller.com/genealogy/gedhtml/kmilburn/d0001/g0000037.htm#I2207
http://misc.traveller.com/genealogy/gedhtml/kmilburn/d0001/g0000037.htm#I2207 says parents were Pepin de Senlis (d. AFT 893) & Countess Vermandois - NPH

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OCCU Lady, of Valois ...
SOUR Royalty for Commoners, Roderick W. Stuart, p. 124;www.public.asu.edu/bgertz/
family says 872;misc.traveller.com/genealogy/gedhtml/kmilburn/ says 848;
gendex.com/users/daver/rigney/D0001 says 872, Evreux, Normandy, France
SOUR Royalty for Commoners, Roderick W. Stuart, p. 124;
www.public.asu.edu/bgertz/family/d0000 ;
Sometimes spelled Papie - COMYN4.TAF (Compuserve), p. 6;Popie de Senlis-COMYNJ
.TAF (Compuserve),p. 9; COMYNJ.TAF (Compuserve), p. 11 says father is Berenger
de Bayeux - NLP;daughter of a count Berengar, whom Rolf had taken captive on
a viking raid into Bayeux - The Conquest of England, Eric Linklater, p. 28;
WIVES.TXT (Comp) says parents were Guy de Senlis and Pepin II's daughter - NLP
;Royalty for Commoners says parents are Berenger and ? of Rennes - NLP
POPPA DE BAYEUX, daugher of BERENGER DE BAYEUX and ? DE RENNES, was the Duchess of Norway - Royalty for Commoners, Roderick W. Stuart, p. 124
Americans of Royal Descent, Charles H. Browning, p. 408 says parents were Pepin de Senlis de Bayeaux and - NLP
Pope of Rennes RENNES Pope - HAWKINS.GED
CHARL.TXT says parents were Pepin, King of Italy (b cir 815) and
CHARLEMG.ZIP (GS) says father was Pepin (no mother listed) - NPH
Lady Poppa (puppet or little doll) de Valois - http://misc.traveller.com/genealogy/gedhtml/kmilburn/d0001/g0000037.htm#I2207
http://misc.traveller.com/genealogy/gedhtml/kmilburn/d0001/g0000037.htm#I2207 says parents were Pepin de Senlis (d. AFT 893) & Countess Vermandois - NPH

OCCU Lady, of Valois ...
SOUR Royalty for Commoners, Roderick W. Stuart, p. 124;www.public.asu.edu/bgertz/
family says 872;misc.traveller.com/genealogy/gedhtml/kmilburn/ says 848;
gendex.com/users/daver/rigney/D0001 says 872, Evreux, Normandy, France
SOUR Royalty for Commoners, Roderick W. Stuart, p. 124;
www.public.asu.edu/bgertz/family/d0000 ;
Sometimes spelled Papie - COMYN4.TAF (Compuserve), p. 6;Popie de Senlis-COMYNJ
.TAF (Compuserve),p. 9; COMYNJ.TAF (Compuserve), p. 11 says father is Berenger
de Bayeux - NLP;daughter of a count Berengar, whom Rolf had taken captive on
a viking raid into Bayeux - The Conquest of England, Eric Linklater, p. 28;
WIVES.TXT (Comp) says parents were Guy de Senlis and Pepin II's daughter - NLP
;Royalty for Commoners says parents are Berenger and ? of Rennes - NLP
POPPA DE BAYEUX, daugher of BERENGER DE BAYEUX and ? DE RENNES, was the Duchess of Norway - Royalty for Commoners, Roderick W. Stuart, p. 124
Americans of Royal Descent, Charles H. Browning, p. 408 says parents were Pepin de Senlis de Bayeaux and - NLP
Pope of Rennes RENNES Pope - HAWKINS.GED
CHARL.TXT says parents were Pepin, King of Italy (b cir 815) and
CHARLEMG.ZIP (GS) says father was Pepin (no mother listed) - NPH
Lady Poppa (puppet or little doll) de Valois - http://misc.traveller.com/genealogy/gedhtml/kmilburn/d0001/g0000037.htm#I2207
http://misc.traveller.com/genealogy/gedhtml/kmilburn/d0001/g0000037.htm#I2207 says parents were Pepin de Senlis (d. AFT 893) & Countess Vermandois - NPH

I wish I was sure of every name in this file & that I didnt
need to know what you think :) hey, but always refining this,
So if you spot a place where Im just flat wrong please tell
me or someone I didnt go on out with, I do this file out of fun and wanting to know, but do not
respond to the 'know it alls' , that dont have manners.I dont
consider them Kin!
Thanks and Happy Hunting!

I wish I was sure of every name in this file & that I didnt
need to know what you think :) hey, but always refining this,
So if you spot a place where Im just flat wrong please tell
me or someone I didnt go on out with, I do this file out of fun and wanting to know, but do not
respond to the 'know it alls' , that dont have manners.I dont
consider them Kin!
Thanks and Happy Hunting!

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Was a pagan. Also known as Popa or Papie.

GIVN Popa or Papie
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AUTH Gary Boyd Roberts

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TYPE Title (Facts Pg)
PLAC Duchesse de Normandie

OCCU Lady, of Valois ...
SOUR Royalty for Commoners, Roderick W. Stuart, p. 124;www.public.asu.edu/bgertz/
family says 872;misc.traveller.com/genealogy/gedhtml/kmilburn/ says 848;
gendex.com/users/daver/rigney/D0001 says 872, Evreux, Normandy, France
SOUR Royalty for Commoners, Roderick W. Stuart, p. 124;
www.public.asu.edu/bgertz/family/d0000 ;
Sometimes spelled Papie - COMYN4.TAF (Compuserve), p. 6;Popie de Senlis-COMYNJ
.TAF (Compuserve),p. 9; COMYNJ.TAF (Compuserve), p. 11 says father is Berenger
de Bayeux - NLP;daughter of a count Berengar, whom Rolf had taken captive on
a viking raid into Bayeux - The Conquest of England, Eric Linklater, p. 28;
WIVES.TXT (Comp) says parents were Guy de Senlis and Pepin II's daughter - NLP
;Royalty for Commoners says parents are Berenger and ? of Rennes - NLP
POPPA DE BAYEUX, daugher of BERENGER DE BAYEUX and ? DE RENNES, was the Duchess of Norway - Royalty for Commoners, Roderick W. Stuart, p. 124
Americans of Royal Descent, Charles H. Browning, p. 408 says parents were Pepin de Senlis de Bayeaux and - NLP
Pope of Rennes RENNES Pope - HAWKINS.GED
CHARL.TXT says parents were Pepin, King of Italy (b cir 815) and
CHARLEMG.ZIP (GS) says father was Pepin (no mother listed) - NPH
Lady Poppa (puppet or little doll) de Valois - http://misc.traveller.com/genealogy/gedhtml/kmilburn/d0001/g0000037.htm#I2207
http://misc.traveller.com/genealogy/gedhtml/kmilburn/d0001/g0000037.htm#I2207 says parents were Pepin de Senlis (d. AFT 893) & Countess Vermandois - NPH

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OCCU Lady, of Valois ...
SOUR Royalty for Commoners, Roderick W. Stuart, p. 124;www.public.asu.edu/bgertz/
family says 872;misc.traveller.com/genealogy/gedhtml/kmilburn/ says 848;
gendex.com/users/daver/rigney/D0001 says 872, Evreux, Normandy, France
SOUR Royalty for Commoners, Roderick W. Stuart, p. 124;
www.public.asu.edu/bgertz/family/d0000 ;
Sometimes spelled Papie - COMYN4.TAF (Compuserve), p. 6;Popie de Senlis-COMYNJ
.TAF (Compuserve),p. 9; COMYNJ.TAF (Compuserve), p. 11 says father is Berenger
de Bayeux - NLP;daughter of a count Berengar, whom Rolf had taken captive on
a viking raid into Bayeux - The Conquest of England, Eric Linklater, p. 28;
WIVES.TXT (Comp) says parents were Guy de Senlis and Pepin II's daughter - NLP
;Royalty for Commoners says parents are Berenger and ? of Rennes - NLP
POPPA DE BAYEUX, daugher of BERENGER DE BAYEUX and ? DE RENNES, was the Duchess of Norway - Royalty for Commoners, Roderick W. Stuart, p. 124
Americans of Royal Descent, Charles H. Browning, p. 408 says parents were Pepin de Senlis de Bayeaux and - NLP
Pope of Rennes RENNES Pope - HAWKINS.GED
CHARL.TXT says parents were Pepin, King of Italy (b cir 815) and
CHARLEMG.ZIP (GS) says father was Pepin (no mother listed) - NPH
Lady Poppa (puppet or little doll) de Valois - http://misc.traveller.com/genealogy/gedhtml/kmilburn/d0001/g0000037.htm#I2207
http://misc.traveller.com/genealogy/gedhtml/kmilburn/d0001/g0000037.htm#I2207 says parents were Pepin de Senlis (d. AFT 893) & Countess Vermandois - NPH

OCCU Lady, of Valois ...
SOUR Royalty for Commoners, Roderick W. Stuart, p. 124;www.public.asu.edu/bgertz/
family says 872;misc.traveller.com/genealogy/gedhtml/kmilburn/ says 848;
gendex.com/users/daver/rigney/D0001 says 872, Evreux, Normandy, France
SOUR Royalty for Commoners, Roderick W. Stuart, p. 124;
www.public.asu.edu/bgertz/family/d0000 ;
Sometimes spelled Papie - COMYN4.TAF (Compuserve), p. 6;Popie de Senlis-COMYNJ
.TAF (Compuserve),p. 9; COMYNJ.TAF (Compuserve), p. 11 says father is Berenger
de Bayeux - NLP;daughter of a count Berengar, whom Rolf had taken captive on
a viking raid into Bayeux - The Conquest of England, Eric Linklater, p. 28;
WIVES.TXT (Comp) says parents were Guy de Senlis and Pepin II's daughter - NLP
;Royalty for Commoners says parents are Berenger and ? of Rennes - NLP
POPPA DE BAYEUX, daugher of BERENGER DE BAYEUX and ? DE RENNES, was the Duchess of Norway - Royalty for Commoners, Roderick W. Stuart, p. 124
Americans of Royal Descent, Charles H. Browning, p. 408 says parents were Pepin de Senlis de Bayeaux and - NLP
Pope of Rennes RENNES Pope - HAWKINS.GED
CHARL.TXT says parents were Pepin, King of Italy (b cir 815) and
CHARLEMG.ZIP (GS) says father was Pepin (no mother listed) - NPH
Lady Poppa (puppet or little doll) de Valois - http://misc.traveller.com/genealogy/gedhtml/kmilburn/d0001/g0000037.htm#I2207
http://misc.traveller.com/genealogy/gedhtml/kmilburn/d0001/g0000037.htm#I2207 says parents were Pepin de Senlis (d. AFT 893) & Countess Vermandois - NPH

I wish I was sure of every name in this file & that I didnt
need to know what you think :) hey, but always refining this,
So if you spot a place where Im just flat wrong please tell
me or someone I didnt go on out with, I do this file out of fun and wanting to know, but do not
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consider them Kin!
Thanks and Happy Hunting!

I wish I was sure of every name in this file & that I didnt
need to know what you think :) hey, but always refining this,
So if you spot a place where Im just flat wrong please tell
me or someone I didnt go on out with, I do this file out of fun and wanting to know, but do not
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consider them Kin!
Thanks and Happy Hunting!

According to Stuart--Royalty for Commoners 1-3 & Weis Ancestral Roots 4-10

Sources: A. Roots 121E; RC 162, 166; Kraentzler 1160, 1443, 1453; Coe,AF and
Pfafman; Davis; Norr, p59.
Roots: Poppa
Duchess of Norway. Also called Poppa de Valoise. Other names: Papia,Papa,
Papie, Popa.
Davis: Popa, daugher of Frankis Count of Bayeux.
Norr: Poppa de Bayeuc [sic] (or de Valois), daughter of Count ofBayeau.
2nd wife.

The vast majority of the information presented is obtained from online sources. While I believe it to be accurate, caution must be taken to always be careful of its validity.
Please do contact me if you find errors or have questions.

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from "Our Folk" by Albert D Hart, Jr.

221827287. Grevinne Popa BERANGERSDTR av Bayeux was a Grevinne in Bayenux

Alias: Duchess of /Normandy/

--Other Fields

Ref Number: 411

Poppa De Valois, Duchess of Normandy, was the daughter of Berenger of Senlis of Bayeaux, Count of Bayeux, from Rennes, Brittany, France, and of Gurvand de Bretagne

SOURCE NOTES:
BU283; http://www.dcs.hull.ac.uk/cgi-bin/gedlkup/n=royal?royal03015
http://www.stirnet.com/HTML/genie/ancient/fh/franks3.htm
http://www.stirnet.com/HTML/genie/continent/mn/normans1.htm

RESEARCH NOTES:
Duchess of Normandy, Countess of Bayeux

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Original individual @P2203946510@ (@MS_NHFETTERLYFAMIL0@) merged with @P2203946048@ (@MS_NHFETTERLYFAMIL0@)

Ancestral File Number: 9HMB-G3

Source: THE RUFUS PARKS PEDIGREE by Brian J.L. Berry
!Information: page 59

Page 55 chart: Poppa

!Page 59 ---

See notes of Rollo (Hrolf, Rolion), d. 927; Duke of the Normans.

!Availability: The libraries of Ken, Karen, Kristen, Kevin, Brian, Amy, Adam and FAL

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Original individual @P2689360849@ (@MS_NHFETTERLYFAMIL0@) merged with @P2689280821@ (@MS_NHFETTERLYFAMIL0@)
Original individual @P2689360849@ (@MS_NHFETTERLYFAMIL0@) merged with @P2447682246@ (@MS_NHFETTERLYFAMIL0@)

GIVN Poppa, Duchess of
SURN Normandy
AFN 9HMB-G3
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DATE 27 AUG 2000
TIME 22:53:55

GIVN Poppa Duchess of
SURN NORMANDY
DATE 15 Dec 2000
HIST: @N643@

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Was a pagan. Also known as Popa or Papie.

Was a pagan. Also known as Popa or Papie.

GIVN Popa or Papie
ABBR Gary Boyd Roberts Book
TITL Via a gedcom from Compuserve by Jack McDonald which gave the rather
extensive Maybary line
AUTH Gary Boyd Roberts

EVEN
TYPE Title (Facts Pg)
PLAC Duchesse de Normandie

OCCU Lady, of Valois ...
SOUR Royalty for Commoners, Roderick W. Stuart, p. 124;www.public.asu.edu/bgertz/
family says 872;misc.traveller.com/genealogy/gedhtml/kmilburn/ says 848;
gendex.com/users/daver/rigney/D0001 says 872, Evreux, Normandy, France
SOUR Royalty for Commoners, Roderick W. Stuart, p. 124;
www.public.asu.edu/bgertz/family/d0000 ;
Sometimes spelled Papie - COMYN4.TAF (Compuserve), p. 6;Popie de Senlis-COMYNJ
.TAF (Compuserve),p. 9; COMYNJ.TAF (Compuserve), p. 11 says father is Berenger
de Bayeux - NLP;daughter of a count Berengar, whom Rolf had taken captive on
a viking raid into Bayeux - The Conquest of England, Eric Linklater, p. 28;
WIVES.TXT (Comp) says parents were Guy de Senlis and Pepin II's daughter - NLP
;Royalty for Commoners says parents are Berenger and ? of Rennes - NLP
POPPA DE BAYEUX, daugher of BERENGER DE BAYEUX and ? DE RENNES, was the Duchess of Norway - Royalty for Commoners, Roderick W. Stuart, p. 124
Americans of Royal Descent, Charles H. Browning, p. 408 says parents were Pepin de Senlis de Bayeaux and - NLP
Pope of Rennes RENNES Pope - HAWKINS.GED
CHARL.TXT says parents were Pepin, King of Italy (b cir 815) and
CHARLEMG.ZIP (GS) says father was Pepin (no mother listed) - NPH
Lady Poppa (puppet or little doll) de Valois - http://misc.traveller.com/genealogy/gedhtml/kmilburn/d0001/g0000037.htm#I2207
http://misc.traveller.com/genealogy/gedhtml/kmilburn/d0001/g0000037.htm#I2207 says parents were Pepin de Senlis (d. AFT 893) & Countess Vermandois - NPH

TYPE Book
AUTH Å or c:Weis, Frederick Lewis
PERI Ancestral Roots
EDTN 7th
PUBL Genealogical Publishing Co., Inc., Baltimore, MD (1999)
TEXT (121E-22)
DATE 24 APR 2000

TITL pennington.FTW
REPO
CALN
MEDI Other
PAGE Tree #1222
DATA
TEXT Date of Import: Aug 19, 1997
TITL pennington.FTW
REPO
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PAGE Tree #1222
DATA
TEXT Date of Import: Aug 19, 1997

OCCU Lady, of Valois ...
SOUR Royalty for Commoners, Roderick W. Stuart, p. 124;www.public.asu.edu/bgertz/
family says 872;misc.traveller.com/genealogy/gedhtml/kmilburn/ says 848;
gendex.com/users/daver/rigney/D0001 says 872, Evreux, Normandy, France
SOUR Royalty for Commoners, Roderick W. Stuart, p. 124;
www.public.asu.edu/bgertz/family/d0000 ;
Sometimes spelled Papie - COMYN4.TAF (Compuserve), p. 6;Popie de Senlis-COMYNJ
.TAF (Compuserve),p. 9; COMYNJ.TAF (Compuserve), p. 11 says father is Berenger
de Bayeux - NLP;daughter of a count Berengar, whom Rolf had taken captive on
a viking raid into Bayeux - The Conquest of England, Eric Linklater, p. 28;
WIVES.TXT (Comp) says parents were Guy de Senlis and Pepin II's daughter - NLP
;Royalty for Commoners says parents are Berenger and ? of Rennes - NLP
POPPA DE BAYEUX, daugher of BERENGER DE BAYEUX and ? DE RENNES, was the Duchess of Norway - Royalty for Commoners, Roderick W. Stuart, p. 124
Americans of Royal Descent, Charles H. Browning, p. 408 says parents were Pepin de Senlis de Bayeaux and - NLP
Pope of Rennes RENNES Pope - HAWKINS.GED
CHARL.TXT says parents were Pepin, King of Italy (b cir 815) and
CHARLEMG.ZIP (GS) says father was Pepin (no mother listed) - NPH
Lady Poppa (puppet or little doll) de Valois - http://misc.traveller.com/genealogy/gedhtml/kmilburn/d0001/g0000037.htm#I2207
http://misc.traveller.com/genealogy/gedhtml/kmilburn/d0001/g0000037.htm#I2207 says parents were Pepin de Senlis (d. AFT 893) & Countess Vermandois - NPH

OCCU Lady, of Valois ...
SOUR Royalty for Commoners, Roderick W. Stuart, p. 124;www.public.asu.edu/bgertz/
family says 872;misc.traveller.com/genealogy/gedhtml/kmilburn/ says 848;
gendex.com/users/daver/rigney/D0001 says 872, Evreux, Normandy, France
SOUR Royalty for Commoners, Roderick W. Stuart, p. 124;
www.public.asu.edu/bgertz/family/d0000 ;
Sometimes spelled Papie - COMYN4.TAF (Compuserve), p. 6;Popie de Senlis-COMYNJ
.TAF (Compuserve),p. 9; COMYNJ.TAF (Compuserve), p. 11 says father is Berenger
de Bayeux - NLP;daughter of a count Berengar, whom Rolf had taken captive on
a viking raid into Bayeux - The Conquest of England, Eric Linklater, p. 28;
WIVES.TXT (Comp) says parents were Guy de Senlis and Pepin II's daughter - NLP
;Royalty for Commoners says parents are Berenger and ? of Rennes - NLP
POPPA DE BAYEUX, daugher of BERENGER DE BAYEUX and ? DE RENNES, was the Duchess of Norway - Royalty for Commoners, Roderick W. Stuart, p. 124
Americans of Royal Descent, Charles H. Browning, p. 408 says parents were Pepin de Senlis de Bayeaux and - NLP
Pope of Rennes RENNES Pope - HAWKINS.GED
CHARL.TXT says parents were Pepin, King of Italy (b cir 815) and
CHARLEMG.ZIP (GS) says father was Pepin (no mother listed) - NPH
Lady Poppa (puppet or little doll) de Valois - http://misc.traveller.com/genealogy/gedhtml/kmilburn/d0001/g0000037.htm#I2207
http://misc.traveller.com/genealogy/gedhtml/kmilburn/d0001/g0000037.htm#I2207 says parents were Pepin de Senlis (d. AFT 893) & Countess Vermandois - NPH

I wish I was sure of every name in this file & that I didnt
need to know what you think :) hey, but always refining this,
So if you spot a place where Im just flat wrong please tell
me or someone I didnt go on out with, I do this file out of fun and wanting to know, but do not
respond to the 'know it alls' , that dont have manners.I dont
consider them Kin!
Thanks and Happy Hunting!

I wish I was sure of every name in this file & that I didnt
need to know what you think :) hey, but always refining this,
So if you spot a place where Im just flat wrong please tell
me or someone I didnt go on out with, I do this file out of fun and wanting to know, but do not
respond to the 'know it alls' , that dont have manners.I dont
consider them Kin!
Thanks and Happy Hunting!

ALSO LISTED AS "PAPIE"

Ancestral File Number: FLHJ-DH

The former mistress of Duke Robert who was repudiated on Robert's 1st marriage. The daughter of a noble. Her issue were subsequently legitimated on her own marriage. {Burke�s Peerage} [GADD.GED]

34th great grandmother

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"Dictionaire de Biographie Française" av J. Bateau oppgir at Gerlaug var Gange-Rolvs datter i ekteskapet med Popa, idet Gerlaug var født før traktaten av 911 i St. Clair-sur-Epte. I denne fikk Gange-Rolv av Karl "den Enfoldige" landet omkring Seine ned til havet og hans datter Gisela til hustru.

La jeune Poppa fut enlevée par le viking "Rollon le Marcheur" qui assièga Bayeux (Normandie) et tua Béranger (père de Poppa) il en fit sa concubine forcée.

!BIRTH: "Royal Ancestors" by Michel Call - Based on Call Family Pedigrees FHL
film 844805 & 844806, Family History Library, Salt Lake City, UT. Copy of
"Royal Ancestors" owned by Lynn Bernhard, Orem, UT.

Abducted by Rollon, the Viking, and became his wife.

!Duchess of Normandy

Data From Lynn Jeffrey Bernhard, 2445 W 450 South #4, Springville UT 84663-4950
email - (XXXXX@XXXX.XXX)

1 NAME Poppa De /Senlis/
2 GIVN Poppa De
2 SURN Senlis

1 NAME Poppa /de Bayeux/ 2 SOUR S033320 3 DATA 4 TEXT Date of Import: Jan 17, 2001 1 BIRT 2 DATE ABT. 877 2 SOUR S033320 3 DATA 4 TEXT Date of Import: Jan 17, 2001

[De La Pole.FTW]
Sources: A. Roots 121E; RC 162, 166; Kraentzler 1160, 1443, 1453; Coe, AF and Pfafman; Davis; Norr, p59.
Roots: Poppa Duchess of Norway. Also called Poppa de Valoise. Other names: Papia, Papa, Papie, Popa.
Davis: Popa, daugher of Frankis Count of Bayeux. Norr: Poppa de Bayeuc [sic] (or de Valois), daughter of Count of Bayeau. 2nd wife.

1 NAME Poppa De /Senlis/
2 GIVN Poppa De
2 SURN Senlis

1 NAME Poppa /de Bayeux/ 2 SOUR S033320 3 DATA 4 TEXT Date of Import: Jan 17, 2001 1 BIRT 2 DATE ABT. 877 2 SOUR S033320 3 DATA 4 TEXT Date of Import: Jan 17, 2001

[De La Pole.FTW]
Sources: A. Roots 121E; RC 162, 166; Kraentzler 1160, 1443, 1453; Coe, AF and Pfafman; Davis; Norr, p59.
Roots: Poppa Duchess of Norway. Also called Poppa de Valoise. Other names: Papia, Papa, Papie, Popa.
Davis: Popa, daugher of Frankis Count of Bayeux. Norr: Poppa de Bayeuc [sic] (or de Valois), daughter of Count of Bayeau. 2nd wife.

1 NAME Poppa De /Senlis/
2 GIVN Poppa De
2 SURN Senlis

1 NAME Poppa /de Bayeux/ 2 SOUR S033320 3 DATA 4 TEXT Date of Import: Jan 17, 2001 1 BIRT 2 DATE ABT. 877 2 SOUR S033320 3 DATA 4 TEXT Date of Import: Jan 17, 2001

[De La Pole.FTW]
Sources: A. Roots 121E; RC 162, 166; Kraentzler 1160, 1443, 1453; Coe, AF and Pfafman; Davis; Norr, p59.
Roots: Poppa Duchess of Norway. Also called Poppa de Valoise. Other names: Papia, Papa, Papie, Popa.
Davis: Popa, daugher of Frankis Count of Bayeux. Norr: Poppa de Bayeuc [sic] (or de Valois), daughter of Count of Bayeau. 2nd wife.

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Original individual @P2995253906@ (@MS_080525.GED0@) merged with @P2995295951@ (@MS_080525.GED0@)

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