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Personal data Seigneur Pepin II Seigneur de Senlis, de Peronne & de Saint-Quentin 

• He was born about 817 in Vermandois, Picardy, France.
• (About) .

  He was Seigneur de Senlis, de Peronne and de Saint-Quentin, and a Lay Abbot. He was living in Italy until 834 when he went to France to the court of Louis the Pious. In 840 he was a count in the Paris area, perhaps when he was among those men faithful to the emperor Lothar who tried to stop Charles the Bald crossing the Seine. No text calls him Count of Vermandois; the family connection with Vermandois only starts with his son Héribert in 896.
  
  From the Foundation for Medieval Genealogy Medlands page on Frankish Nobility (covering his marriage):
  
  http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/FRANKISH%20NOBILITY.htm#Pepindiedafter850B
  
  PEPIN [I], son of BERNARD I King of Italy [Carolingian] & his wife Cunegundis --- ([815]-after 850).
  
  Regino names "Pippinum" son of "Bernhardus filius Pippin rex Italiæ"[560].
  
  Seigneur de Péronne et de Saint-Quentin[561].
  
  Comte near Paris after 834.
  
  He supported Emperor Lothaire after the death of Emperor Louis I "le Pieux", despite having sworn allegiance to Charles II "le Chauve"[562].
  
  The Annales Bertiniani name "Ratholdus…episcopus, Bonifacius comes, Pippinus consanguineus imperatoris" as supporters of Emperor Louis I in 834[563].
  
  m ---. The name of Pépin's wife is not known.
  
  Settipani suggests[564] that the wife of Comte Pépin was --- [du Vexin], daughter of THEODERIC, son of NIBELUNG Comte du Vexin, bearing in mind that Pépin's descendants inherited estates in the Vexin.
  Comte Pépin & his wife had five children:
  
  1. BERNARD [I] ([845]-[before 893]).
  
  Regino names (in order) "Bernardum, Pippinum et Heribertum" as the three children of "Pippinum"[565]. According to Italian authors[566], Bernard went to Italy and was the ancestor of the Bernardhengi. Settipani is sceptical about this, particularly as the names Pepin and Heribert are not found among the alleged descendants. He suggests that comte Bernard may be the same Bernard recorded as one of the executors of Charles II "le Chauve" King of the West Franks in 877[567].
  "Adelelm et Bernard comtes de la region du Laonnais" donated property to Sainte-Marie de Laon as executors of the testament of Charles II "le Chauve" King of the Franks[568].
  2. PEPIN [II] ([845]-after 28 Jan 893]).
  
  Regino names (in order) "Bernardum, Pippinum et Heribertum" as the three children of "Pippinum"[569].
  At the court of Emperor Charles "le Chauve" in 877[570], thereafter Comte to the north of Paris.
  Emperor Karl III confirmed a grant of property including "villamque in Pipenensi comitatatu quæ Nogenlis dicitur" to the church of Grandval by charter dated 20 Sep 884[571].
  Regino names "Folcone episcopo, Heriberto et Pippino comitibus in Remorum civitate" when recording that they supported the accession of Charles III "le Simple" King of the West Franks in 892 in opposition to King Eudes, but does not specify the relationship between Heribert and Pepin[572].
  3. HERIBERT ([850]-killed [900/6 Nov 907]).
  
  Regino names (in order) "Bernardum, Pippinum et Heribertum" as the three children of "Pippinum", specifying that Heribert killed "Rodulfum comitem filium Balduini comitis"[573]. "Heribertus, Bernhardi frater" is named in the Vita Hludowicis Imperatoris[574].
  Regino names "Folcone episcopo, Heriberto et Pippino comitibus in Remorum civitate" when recording that they supported the accession of Charles III "le Simple" King of the West Franks in 892 in opposition to King Eudes, but does not specify the relationship between Heribert and Pepin[575].
  Heribert became Comte de Vermandois in 896.
  4. [CUNEGUNDIS.
  
  Cunegundis was cited in a list of relations of comte Odo, son-in-law of Héribert I Comte de Vermandois, without any indication of how she may have been related to the family[576].]
  5. [daughter . [m firstly BERENGER Comte [de Bayeux], son of --- (-13 Dec [892 or after]).
  
  The necrology of Le Mans Cathedral records the death "Id Dec" of "Beringerius comes"[577]. One way of reconciling the apparently contradictory sources which recount the origin of Poppa, wife of Rollo of Normandy, is that her mother married firstly Berengar Comte de Bayeux and secondly Guy Comte de Senlis. There is no proof that this is correct.]
  m [secondly] WIDO [Guy] Comte de Senlis , son of ---. [One possible child] [of second marriage].
  References:
  
  [560] Reginonis Chronicon 818, MGH SS I, p. 567.
  [561] Rösch, p. 86.
  [562] Nithard, Historiarum libri IV, ed. P. Lauer (Paris, 1926), cited in Settipani, C. and Kerrebrouck, P. van (1993) La préhistoire des Capétiens 481-987, 1ère partie, Mérovingiens, Carolingiens et Robertiens (Villeneuve d'Ascq), p. 214.
  [563] Annales Bertiniani I 834.
  [564] Settipani, C. and Kerrebrouck, P. van (1993) La préhistoire des Capétiens 481-987, 1ère partie, Mérovingiens, Carolingiens et Robertiens (Villeneuve d'Ascq), p. 215.
  [565] Reginonis Chronicon 818, MGH SS I, p. 567.
  [566] Pocchetino, G. (1922), 'I Pipinidi in Italia (sec. VIII-XII)', Archivio storico Lombardo, 54 (1927), pp. 1-43, and Violante, C. (1974) 'Quelques caractéristiques des structures familiales en Lombardie, Emilie et Toscane aux XI et XII siècles', Famille et parenté dans l'Occident medieval (Rome), pp. 87-147, 128, both cited in Settipani (1993), p. 215.
  [567] Settipani (1993), p. 215 footnote 177.
  [568] Bourgeois, E. (1885) Le capitulaire de Kiersy-sur-Oise (Paris), p. 23.
  [569] Reginonis Chronicon 818, MGH SS I, p. 567.
  [570] Settipani (1993), p. 215.
  [571] D Karl 108, p. 172, headed "verunechtet" in the compilation.
  [572] Reginonis Chronicon 892, MGH SS I, p. 605.
  [573] Reginonis Chronicon 818, MGH SS I, p. 567.
  [574] Vita Hludowici Imperatoris, MGH SS II, p. 633.
  [575] Reginonis Chronicon 892, MGH SS I, p. 605.
  [576] Settipani (1993), p. 217.
  [577] Nécrologe du Mans, p. 329.

• He died about 848 in Milano, Lombardia, Italy.
• He is buried in Milano, Lombardia, Italy.
• A child of Bernhard I di Lombardia & Italia and Cunegonde de Vermandois
• This information was last updated on March 31, 2017.

Household of Seigneur Pepin II Seigneur de Senlis, de Peronne & de Saint-Quentin

He is married to Rothaide de Bobbio.

They got married.

Child(ren):

1. Herbert I de Vermandois & Senlis  ± 848-902 

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