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Personal data Robert de Ferrers , 6th Earl of Derby [[Ch-Wikibio]] sss 

• He was born about 1239 in Tutbury, Burton-on-Trent, Staffordshire, England.
• He died in the year 1279 in Chartley Holme, Stafford, Staffordshire, England.
• He is buried in St. Thomas Priory, Staffordshire, England.
• A child of William de Ferrers and Margaret de Quincy
• This information was last updated on March 15, 2023.

Household of Robert de Ferrers , 6th Earl of Derby [[Ch-Wikibio]] sss

(1) He had a relationship with Mary de Lusignan.

(2) He is married to Eleanor (Alianore) de Bohun.

They got married on June 26, 1269.

Child(ren):

1. Alianore de Ferrers  ± 1268-< 1308 
2. John 1st Baron de Ferrers  1271-1312 

Notes about Robert de Ferrers , 6th Earl of Derby [[Ch-Wikibio]] sss

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EARLDOM OF DERBY (VI) 1254 to 1266ROBERT (DE FERRERS), EARL OF DERBY, son and heir, by 2nd wife born about 1239. The wardship of his lands, valued at 2,000 marks a year, was granted, 15 April 1254, to Prince Edward, who sold it in 1257 to the Queen and Pierre de Savoie. He did homage and had livery of his lands in 1260, signalizing this event by destroying Tutbury Priory. On the outbreak of the Barons' War in 1263 he seized three of Prince Edward's castles. Next year, 29 February 1263/4, cum exercitu magno, he captured Worcester, and destroyed the town and jewry. In April or May Prince Edward retaliated by wasting his lands and demolishing Tutbury Castle. He absented himself from the battle of Lewes, but, with 20,000 foot and many horsemen, put to flight the royal forces near Chester in November following. On 24 December 1264. he was ordered to deliver up Peak Castle to Earl Simon, and the same day was summoned to Parliament by writ directed Comiti Derb'. In that Parliament he was accused of divers trespasses and was sent to the Tower by Earl Simon, his lands being taken into the King's hand. On 5 December 1265 he was admitted to the King's grace and had full pardon for all offences committed up to that day, on payment of 1,500 marks and a certain drinking cup of gold. In a few months he again rebelled, and joinlng forces with John d'Eiville, Baldwin Wake, and others, devastated the Midlands. They were surprised at Chesterfield, 15 May 1266, and he was captured and sent to Windsor Castle, where he remained a prisoner for nearly three years; his lands being again taken into the King's hand. On 28 June the castles and lands, and on 12 July 1266, the honour of Derby, forfeited by Robert de Ferrers, formerly Earl of Derby, the King's enemy and rebel, were granted to Edmund the King's son. By the Dictum of Kenilworth his lands were subjected to the penalty of 7 years' purchase. On 1 May 1269 Edmund was ordered to restore these lands to him. But on that day he was forced to sign a charter, by which he agreed to redeem them, and obtain his release from prison, for £50,000 to be paid to Edmund in a single payment before 8 July following, in default the lands to revert to Edmund and his heirs to hold till the money was paid in the manner prescribed. He soon afterwards regained his liberty but could not redeem his lands, which were accordingly released to Edmund. He brought an action to recover them in 1274, but failed [f]. In 1273, when the King was absent abroad, he took possession of Chartley Castle, but was expelled. In 1274/5 he recovered the manor of Holbrook, co. Derby, and in 1275 the manor, but not the castle-of Chartley.He married, 1stly (cont. 26 July 1249), in 1249, at Westminster, the King's niece, Mary, daughter of Hugues XI, called le Brun, COUNT OF LA MARCHE AND ANGOULÊME, SIRE DE LUSIGNAN in Poitou, by Yolande, daughter of Pierre, called Mauclerc, DUKE or COUNT OF BRITTANY. She, who was born about 1242, was living 11 July 1266, and died s.p.m. He married, 2ndly, 26 June 1269, Alianore, daughter of Sir Humphrey DE BOHUN (son and heir apparent of Humphrey, EARL OF HEREFORD AND ESSEX, by his 1st wife, Alianore, 4th daughter and coheir of Sir William DE BRAIOSE, LORD of Totnes, Brecon, and Radnor. He died in 1279, and was buried (most probably) in the Priory of St. Thomas at Stafford. His widow's dower was ordered to be assigned, 27 April 1279. She died 20 February 1313/4, and was buried in Walden Abbey. [Complete Peerage IV:198-202, (transcribed by Dave Utzinger)][f] Robert de Ferrers sued Edmund, son of King Henry, in a plea that he might redeem his lands at 7 years' purchase according to the Dictum of Kenilworth. Edmund said that Robert could not claim the benefit of the Dictum, because after it was passed he had of his own free will agreed to redeem himself from prison, and his lands, for £50,000 to be paid to Edmund in the quinzaine of St. John the Baptist 53 Hen. III: and that Robert had found manucaptors and conveyed all his lands to thcm, on condition that if the money was not paid to them at that date they should give the lands to Edmund to hold until Robert should pay him the £50,000 simiti et jemil, and he produced Robert's [undated] charter to that effect. Robert said that this charter ought not to prejudice him, for he sealed it on the day of SS. Philip and James 53 Hen. III, and before that he was in the King's prison at Windsor, whence he was released on bail and taken to Chippenham, where the deed was laid before him and he had sealed it when in custody and in fear of his life: and afterwards he had been taken as a prisoner in a cart by armed men, some in the cart and some out of it, to Wallingford, where he had been kept a prisoner for three weeks till the Lord Edward, now King, had released him. Edmund said that Robert had come before the Chancellor, and had caused the deed to be enrolled, and could not plead that he had done such an act as a prisoner. Robert answered that the very day on which he sealed the deed the Chancellor had come-not like a Chancellor but like a private person-to the chamber where he lay in strict custody, and he had acknowledged the said writing to avoid peril to his body, and that therefore the said acknowledgment should not bind him. Judgment for Edmund on the ground that the Court could not go behind the Chancellor's rolls, especially after the Chancellor had quitted office. (Pleas in the quinzaine of St. Michael-Coram Rege, 2-3 Edw. I, roll no. 11, m. 6).. . . . .It appears from the foregoing that the confiscation of this earldom was effected by making the last possessor contract himself out of the Dictum of Kenilworth, the provisions of which may have been unknown to him. No attainder nor corruption of the blood was involved, and the late Earl was in a position to claim-and recover-in the King's Courts any lands which were outside his charter of 1 May 1269. Moreover, had he at any time, by some miracle been able to pay the £50,000 simul et senie he would have regained the estate of his dignity, and with it, presumably, the dignity itself, which must be regarded as having been tacitly attached to the estate. This mere inability to discharge a debt to another subject would not be sufficient to deprive him, according to any modern doctrine, of his peerage dignity, although the existence of an earl, without the estate of an earldom, was not conceivable in the thirteenth century.About the year 1298 John de Ferrers, son and heir of the last Earl, petitioned the Pope for a dispensation to permit him to borrow money from prelates and other spiritual persons, so that he might redeem his lands by paying the £50,000 to Thomas, Earl of Lancaster, son and heir of Edmund. But on 10 August 1301 the King prohibited him, under penalty of forfeiting all that he could forfeit, from prosecuting a plea concerning a lay fief in Court Christian, and ordered him to cause his plea to be revoked, and to be before the King in three weeks from Michaelmas to receive what should be just in the matter, as the cognizance of such a plea pertained to the King's Court. On 2 December following he was ordered to be before the King in the octaves of St. Hilary to show cause why he had, against his homage, called on the Earl of Lancaster to answer in Court Christian concerning lay fiefs in the realm. This John, who apparently had possession of Chartley, was summoned as Lord Ferrers [of Chartley] from 1298/9.On 12 July 1266 the honour of Derby, forfeited by Robert de Ferrers, and the honour of Leicester, forfeited by Simon de Montfort, and on 30 June q267 the honours of Monmouth and Lancaster, were granted to Edmund, the King's younger son. But this Edmund does not appear to have usually used any other title than Earl of Lancaster, although he is known to have used the title earl of Derby itself at least once. In charters, indeed, he usually styled himself the King's son, or-after the accession of Edward I-the King's brother. The seal of his son and heir, Thomas, attached to the Barons' Letter to the Pope, 12 February 1300/1, bears (or rather, bore) the legend S' : THOME : COMITIS : LANCASTRIE : LEYCESTRIE : ET : FERRARIIS) the last title being equivalent to Earl of Derby. This Earl was beheaded 22 March 132I/2, when all his honours became forfeited. [Complete Peerage IV:203, (transcribed by Dave Utzinger)]----------------------------------------Robert de Ferrers, being a minor at the time of his father's decease, the queen and Peter de Savoy gave 6,000 marks for the custody of his lands during his minority. His lordship, when arrived at manhood, became one of the most active of the discontented nobles arrayed against Henry III and, commencing his career by the plunder and destruction of Worcester, the king, to retaliate, sent a force under Prince Edward into the cos. of Stafford and Derby, which wasted the earl's lands with fire and sword and demolished his castle at Tutworth. His lordship, afterwards joining with Montfort, Earl of Leicester, and Clare, Earl of Gloucester, participated in the victory achieved at Lewes, in Sussex, wherein the king and the prince were made prisoners, but continuing to adhere to Leicester, he was defeated with that nobleman by his former companion in arms, the Earl of Gloucester, at Evesham, and obliged to throw himself upon the mercy of the king, which, in consideration of a cup of gold, adorned with previous stones (obtained from Michal de Tony, upon a mortgage on one of his manors in Northamptonshire), and 1,500 marks, was extended to him and he received a full pardon for all his misdemeanours, the king undertaking to protect him against Prince Edward and others toward whom, at any time during the troubles, he had done wrong, upon condition that, if he should transgress against, he was without hope of favour, to be wholly disinherited. For the strict observance of which provision, the earl not only obliged himself by special charter, then freely sealed to the king, but by his oath of allegiance at the time renewed.The charter and oath, however, were but feeble restraints upon his lordship for in the very next spring we find him again at the head of a powerful army in the northern part of Derbyshire, and soon after defeated in a pitched battle at Chesterfield by Prince Henry, eldest son of the King of Almaine. Here, his lordship was amongst those who made their escape from the field but, hiding himself under some sacks of wool in a church, he was there discovered through the treachery of a woman and thence conveyed a prisoner to London, whereupon he was totally disinherited, by the parliament then sitting at Westminster, of the Earldom of Derby as well as of his territorial possessions, the greater part of which were conferred by the king upon his 2nd son, Edmund (surname Crouchback), Earl of Leicester and Lancaster, to whom many writers of authority attribute also the dignity of Earl of Derby, but Dugdale expressly says, "although he (the prince) had possession of the greater part of this Robert's land and exercised (perhaps) the power of earl in that county, I am not satisfied that he really was Earl of Derby; in regard, I cannot find that the same Edmund had any patent of creation to that honour as he had to those of Leicester and Lancaster." It seems that this unfortunate nobleman continued in confinement about three years, but in the 53rd Henry III [1269] there was so much interest made for him that the king accepted of security, whereby he might receive satisfaction for his lordship's misdemeanours, and issue his precept to Prince Edmund to make restitution of his lands; when an agreement was entered into between the disinherited earl and the prince, by which the latter, for the sum of £50,000 to be paid at once upon a certain day, was to relinquish all interest in the lands; but that payment not being made good, the securities to the covenant passed over the lands to Prince Edmund and his heirs for ever. Subsequently, however, the ousted lord instituted a suit in the Court of King's Bench against the prince for the restitution of the property upon the allegation that the agreement he had sealed was extorted from him when a prisoner and under apprehension of his life; but after divers pleadings, a decision of the court in the beginning of Edward I's reign confirmed the lands to Prince Edmund.This Robert de Ferrers, last Earl of Derby of that family, m. 1st, Mary, dau. of Hugh le Brun, Earl of Angoulême, and niece of King Henry III, by whom he had no issue; and 2ndly, Eleanore, dau. of Ralph, Lord Basset, by whom he had an only son, John, who inherited Chartley Castle. The earl d. 7th Edward I [1279], the last Earl of Derby of the house of Ferrers. [Sir Bernard Burke, Dormant, Abeyant, Forfeited, and Extinct Peerages, Burke's Peerage, Ltd., London, 1883, p. 197, Ferrers, Earls of Derby]

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