Genealogy Wylie » Joan (Jane) de Mowbray (± 1368-> 1402)

Personal data Joan (Jane) de Mowbray 

Sources 1, 2, 3

Household of Joan (Jane) de Mowbray

(1) She is married to Thomas Grey.

They got married at 1st husband.Source 4


Child(ren):

  1. John Grey  > 1384-???? 
  2. Maud Grey  ± 1386-> 1451 
  3. Thomas Grey  1385-1415


(2) She is married to Thomas Tunstall.

They got married before November 30, 1402 at 2nd husband 2nd wife.Source 4


Notes about Joan (Jane) de Mowbray

Jane de Mowbray; m. Sir Thomas Gray of Wark. [Ancestral Roots]

Joan de Mowbray; m. Sir Thomas Grey of Heaton, d. c 30 Nov 1400. [MagnaCharta Sureties]

Note: Sometimes it is hard to recognize that these two sources aretalking about the same people.

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Said to be daughter of John de Mowbray and Elizabeth de Segrave. 4 sons &1 daughter

There are at least two sources which identity Thomas Gray's wife, Joan,as the daughter of John de Mowbray. The first source is the Visitation ofthe North taken c. 1480-1500 in which Joan is called "Ionetta filiaJohannes Moubray." [Reference: Surtees Soc., 144 (1930): 53-54]. Thevisitation is one of the earliest visitations on record and one of thebest in my opinion.

The second source is the monumental inscription of Joan (Mowbray) Gray'sson, Henry Gray, which reads as follows:
"Here lyeth Syr Henry Grey, the sonne of Syre Thomas Grey, and Jone, hyswyf, that was systere to the Duke of Norfolk, that dyed at Venis."[Reference: Scott, Memorials of the Family of Scott (1876), p. 126
footnote p].

The Duke of Norfolk who died in Venice was Thomas Mowbray, Duke ofNorfolk, who died there of pestilence in 1399. He was the son of John deMowbray, 4th Lord Mowbray, and his wife, Elizabeth de Segrave.

I trust that answers your question.

Best always, Douglas Richardson, Salt Lake City, Utah

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Ancestors (and descendant) of Joan (Jane) de Mowbray

Joan Plantagenet
± 1320-1349

Joan (Jane) de Mowbray
± 1368-> 1402

(1) 

Thomas Grey
± 1359-± 1400

John Grey
> 1384-????
Maud Grey
± 1386-> 1451
Thomas Grey
1385-1415
(2) < 1402

Thomas Tunstall
± 1358-1415


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Sources

  1. Complete Peerage of England Scotland Ireland Great Britain and the United Kingdom, by G. E Cokayne, Sutton Publishing Lt, VI:136
    Joan (no last name)
  2. Ancestral Roots of Certain American Colonists, 7th Edition, by Frederick Lewis Weis, additions by Walter Lee Shippard Jr., 223-34
  3. Magna Charta Sureties 1215, Frederick Lewis Weis, additions by Walter Lee Sheppard Jr, 5th Edition, 1999, 65-7
  4. Newsgroup: soc.genealogy.medieval, at groups - google.com, Brad Verity, 30 Jan 2002

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