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Personal data Henry de Grey , Lord of codnor 

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Household of Henry de Grey , Lord of codnor

He is married to Isolda Bardolf.

They got married in the year 1199 at Thurrock Grrey, Essex, England, he was 23 years old.


Child(ren):

  1. Richard de Grey  ± 1199-< 1271 
  2. John de Grey  ± 1202-< ???? 
  3. Hugh de Grey  ± 1203-???? 
  4. William de Grey  ± 1210-> 1268 


Notes about Henry de Grey , Lord of codnor

Note from Curt Hoffman on Jim Weber's database.
Henry de Grey , Lord of Codnor Note.—Many attempts in many generations have been made to deal with the earlier ancestry of the great house of Grey. The most recent [CP VI was published 1926] and the best is to be found in _Misc. Gen. et Her._, 5th Ser., vol. v, article by G. A. Moriarty on _The Ancestry of Isabel de Bocland_. There it is shown that Anschetil de Grey, whose origin is to be sought in Greye-sur-mer, held at the time of the Domesday Survey in Oxfordshire alone 24 hides. This article does not touch upon Henry de Grey, whose ancestry remains doubtful. He is generally supposed to have been the ancestor of all Greys, but in point of fact there is no mention of him or his sons in the numerous transactions in land initiated by Walter de Grey, Archbishop of York, who was of the Rotherfield branch; and the Archbishop and Robert de Grey of Rotherfield were not sons of Henry de Grey. (See _Note_ at end of article on Grey of Rotherfield). The senior representatives of Henry de Grey bore the undifferenced arms of Grey, and the house of Codnor appears always to have been regarded as the chief stock. Henry de Grey may be said with reasonable probability to have accounted in 1195 for the farm of the _præpositura_ of Verneuil (_Rot. Scaccarii Normann._, vol. i, p. 237) He was undoubtedly in favour with King John, who on 22 Apr. 1203 took upon himself the debt which Henry de Grey owed to the burgesses of Verneuil (_Patent Roll_, 4 John, m. 1). The manor of Thurrock, from which Henry de Grey has always been described, was acquired in 1199. It had been held of the Earl of Ferrers, who had sold it to Isaac the Jew and Josce his son, and they had sold it to Henry de Grey (_Rot. Chart._, 1 John, m. 29). Actually, however, three years earlier (1196) he was pardoned scutage due from 5 fees of the fee of Peverel, and was in possession of the manor of Codnor in 1201, when he had remission of scutage of 6 fees of the honour of Peverel (Farrer, _Honours and Knights’ Fees_, vol. i, p. 149). In 1212 he held in co. Derby the following fees: 1 each in Heanor, Normanton, Shirland, Codnor and Toton, and Berley; and in Notts 1 in Radcliffe-on-Trent (_Idem_). He m. Iseude, da. of Hugh Bardolf (by his wife Isabel), and one of the 5 sisters and coheirs of Robert Bardolf, of Great Carlton, co. Lincoln, and Hoo Kent, which Robert Bardolf (parson of 30 churches) succeeded his brother the said Hugh Bardolf. Richard de Grey, s. and h. of Henry de Grey, confirmed a grant of pasture made by Robert de Bardolf to the Abbey of Barlings. “Dominus Robertus Bardolfus qui dedit nobis . . . habuit quinque sorores quae successerunt ei in hereditate . . . De secunda Dominus Ricardus de Grey, de quo Johannes, de quo Henricus . . .” (B.M. Cott. MS., Faust., B 1, Cartulary of Barlins, fol. 106 and _passim_). Henry de Grey d. in 1219. In that year he and his wife were attorned for the service of their lands in Notts and Derby to William, Earl of Ferrers, so long as he held the castles of the Peak and Bolsover by the King’s will (Farrer, _Honours and Knights’ Fees_, vol. i, p. 148); and the sheriff of Notts and Derby was ordered to permit the service of Iseude who was wife of the said Henry for her lands there (_Close Roll_, 3 Hen. III, m. 6). On 3 July 1225 the King took the homage of Jordan Foliot, Iseude de Grey and Ralph Paynell for their portions of the lands of Robert Bardolf (_Idem_, 9 Hen. III, m. 10). Iseude m., 2ndly, Reynold de Meudre, as appears by an _inspeximus_ (_Cal. Charter Rolls_, 10 Jan. 1330/1) in favour of Richard de Grey of Codnor of a charter dated 2 Fev 1238/9 to Richard de Grey and to Reynold de Meudre and Iseude, his wife, mother of the said Richard; which charter gave a grant of fee warren in Thurrock, &c., to Richard de Grey, and in their demesne lands of Codnor to Reginald de Meudre and Iseude (_Charter Roll_, 23 Hen. III, m. 6). Iseude d. before 18 June 1246 (_Cal. Inq. p. m._, Hen. III, no. 58). Henry de Grey’s sons were: (1) Richard de Grey of Codnor and Grays Thurrock, mentioned above, some account of whom follows. (2) John de Grey, ancestor of Grey Shirland and Wilton and of Grey of Ruthin (q.v.). John Grey is frequently mentioned with his brother Richard, e.g., in Oct. 1224 (_Close Roll, 9 Hen. III, m. 20), and Shirland was held of the Greys of Codnor. (Farrer, _Honours and Knights’ Fees_, vol. 1, pp. 150/1). (3) William de Grey of Sandiacre, co. Derby (q.v.). On 25 Apr. 1235 Reynold de Meudre and Iseude his wife had a grant of the gift made to them by Richard de Sandiacre of land in Sandiacre (_Charter Rolls_, 19 Hen. III, m. 11), and in 1244 appears a grant to William de Grey of 10 bovates of land in Sandiacre of the gift of Iseude de Grey which she had of the gift of Richard de Sandiacre (_Idem_, 28 Hen. III, m. 2); and 10 bovates of land were held at his death by Richard de Grey of Sandiacre, s. and h. of the said William (see under Grey of Sandiacre). There may have been another son Henry de Grey, as Henry de Grey and Richard his brother are mentioned in 1222 (_Close Roll_, 7 Hen. III, m. 26). [Ref: CP VI:note appended to Greys of Codnor articles, pp. 133-4] For precise source refs, p. 134 begins "de Meudre, as appears by an _inspeximus_" ***** It is not the purpose of this work to trace the history of families to their origin, where no peerage as yet existed, but the persistent attempt to make Henry de Grey of Grays Thurock father of all Greys necessitates some attempt to show that he had nothing to do with the paternity of Walter (de Grey), Archbishop of York, or of Robert de Grey of Rotherfield, who was the Archbishop’s brother. Their mother, Hawise de Grey, was living at the same time as Iseude de Grey, wife of the said Henry and other of Richard de Grey of Codnor and Grays Thurrock, of John de Grey of Shirland and Wilton, and of William de Grey of Sandiacre (see Note at end of article on Grey of Codnor). Nor does the relationship between Henry de Grey and the Archbishop become apparent, seeing that Robert de Grey is distinctly mentioned as s. and h. of Hawise de Grey, while the descendants of Henry de Grey bore the undifferenced arms and appear to have been regarded as the senior line. [Ref: CP VI:note appended to Greys of Rotherfield articles, p. 150]

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Henry de Grey; bought the Manor of Thurrock, Essex (later called Thurrock Grey) from Isaac the Jew and his son Josce; held the Manor of Codnor, Derbys by 1201; granted by Henry III 1216 the Manor of Grimston, Notts. [Burke's Peerage]---------------------In the 6th year of King Richard I [1195], that monarch conferred the manor of Thurrock, co. Essex (afterwards called Thurrock Grey), upon Henry de Grey, which grant was confirmed by King John, who vouchsafed, by special charter, to permit the said Henry de Grey to hunt the hare and fox in any land belonging to the crown, save the king's own demesne-parks. In the 1st Henry III [1216], he had also a grant of the manor of Grimston, co. Nottingham, and having afterwards m. Isolda, niece and heiress of Robert Bardolf, shared in the inheritance of his lands. By this lady Henry de Grey had issue, Richard, John, William, Robert, Walter, and Henry. [Sir Bernard Burke, Dormant, Abeyant, Forfeited and Extinct Peerages, Burke's Peerage, Ltd., London, England, 1883, p. 247-248, Grey, Baron Grey, of Codnor, co. Derby]

Henry de Grey; bought the Manor of Thurrock, Essex (later called ThurrockGrey) from Isaac the Jew and his son Josce; held the Manor of Codnor,Derbys by 1201; granted by Henry III 1216 the Manor of Grimston, Notts.[Burke's Peerage]

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In the 6th year of King Richard I [1195], that monarch conferred themanor of Thurrock, co. Essex (afterwards called Thurrock Grey), uponHenry de Grey, which grant was confirmed by King John, who vouchsafed, byspecial charter, to permit the said Henry de Grey to hunt the hare andfox in any land belonging to the crown, save the king's owndemesne-parks. In the 1st Henry III [1216], he had also a grant of themanor of Grimston, co. Nottingham, and having afterwards m. Isolda, nieceand heiress of Robert Bardolf, shared in the inheritance of his lands. Bythis lady Henry de Grey had issue, Richard, John, William, Robert,Walter, and Henry. [Sir Bernard Burke, Dormant, Abeyant, Forfeited andExtinct Peerages, Burke's Peerage, Ltd., London, England, 1883, p.247-248, Grey, Baron Grey, of Codnor, co. Derby]

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Ancestors (and descendant) of Henry de Grey

Anschetil de Grey
± 1130-????
Maud de St. Hilary
± 1131-1193
John de Grey
± 1150-> 1198
Elana de Clare
± 1154-????

Henry de Grey
1176-1219

1199

Isolda Bardolf
± 1176-1246

Richard de Grey
± 1199-< 1271
John de Grey
± 1202-< ????
Hugh de Grey
± 1203-????
William de Grey
± 1210-> 1268

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Sources

  1. Burke's Peerage & Baronetage, 106th Edition, Charles Mosley Editor-in-Chief, 1999, 1226
  2. Burke's Peerage & Baronetage, 106th Edition, Charles Mosley Editor-in-Chief, 1999, Page: 1226

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