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Household of John Drummond 11th Thane of Lennox

He is married to Mary (Margy Margaret) Montefex Monfichets.

They got married


Child(ren):

  1. John Drummond  ± 1356-1428 


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John Drummond of that Ilk, 11th Thane of Lennox
Russian: œ°â€“Ç–éœ∞–Ä–Ç, 11th Thane of Lennox
Gender:
Male
Birth:
1318
Inchmahome Isle, Lake of Monteith, Scotland
Death:
1360 (41-42)
Concraig, Aberdeenshire, Scotland
Place of Burial:
Aberfoyle, Perthshire, Scotland
Immediate Family:
Son of Sir Malcolm Drummond, 10th Thane of Lennox and wife of Malcolm Drummond

Husband of Mary Montifex, co-heiress of Montefichet

Father of Annabella Drummond, Queen Consort of Scots; Sir Malcolm Drummond, Earl of Mar; Sir John Drummond, 12th of Lennox; Mary Drummond and Jean Drummond

Brother of Sir Maurice Drummond, 1st of Concraig; Walter Drummond and Margaret Drummond, Queen consort of Scotland

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Sir John Drummond, 11th of Lennox is your 19th great grandfather.
You
¬â€  ·Üí Geneva Allene Welborn (Smith)
your mother ·Üí Henry Loyd Smith Sr.
her father ·Üí Edith Lucinda Smith (Lee)
his mother ·Üí William "Will" Manassas Lee
her father ·Üí Martha Lee (Collier)
his mother ·Üí Stephen T Collier
her father ·Üí Catherine Collier (Roberts)
his mother ·Üí Sarah Katherine Roberts (Turner)
her mother ·Üí John Turner, Sr.
her father ·Üí Thomas Turner of Frederick County
his father ·Üí Anne Turner (Greer)
his mother ·Üí Sir James Greer of Lag, of Capenoch
her father ·Üí Sir William Grierson, 9th of Lag
his father ·Üí Helena Douglas
his mother ·Üí Christian Montgomerie
her mother ·Üí Elizabeth Edmonstone
her mother ·Üí Sir Archibald Edmonstone, 3rd of Duntreath, Baronet
her father ·Üí Sir William Edmonstone of Duntreath
his father ·Üí Mary of Scotland, Countess of Angus
his mother ·Üí Annabella Drummond, Queen Consort of Scots
her mother ·Üí Sir John Drummond, 11th of Lennox
her father

Sir John Drummond, 11th of Lennox is your 20th great grandfather.
You
¬â€  ·Üí Geneva Allene Welborn
your mother ·Üí Henry Loyd Smith, Sr.
her father ·Üí Edgar Jackson Smith
his father ·Üí Margaret Jane Houser
his mother ·Üí Susannah Houser
her mother ·Üí Sarah ·ÄúSally·Äù Moore
her mother ·Üí Frederick K Jones
her father ·Üí William Jones
his father ·Üí Ann Jones
his mother ·Üí George Hamilton
her father ·Üí James Jr Hamilton, 6th Earl of Abercorn
his father ·Üí Colonel James Hamilton
his father ·Üí Sir George Hamilton, Baronet
his father ·Üí Marion Boyd, Countess of Abercorn
his mother ·Üí Margaret Campbell
her mother ·Üí Isabel Drummond of Innerpaffrey
her mother ·Üí Sir John Drummond of Innerpaffrey, 2nd Laird of Innerpeffray
her father ·Üí John Drummond of Innerpeffray, 1st Laird of Innerpeffray
his father ·Üí Sir Malcolm Drummond of Cargill & Stobhall, Kt.
his father ·Üí Sir Walter Drummond of Stobhall
his father ·Üí Sir John Drummond, 12th of Lennox
his father ·Üí Sir John Drummond, 11th of Lennox
his father

Sir John Drummond, 11th of Lennox1,2
M, #102467, b. 1318, d. 1373
Last Edited=2 Mar 2005

http://www.thepeerage.com/p10247.htm#i102467

Sir John Drummond, 11th of Lennox was born in 1318.2 He was the son of Sir Malcolm Drummond, 10th Thane of Lennox and Margaret de Graham.2 He married Mary Montifex, daughter of Sir William de Montifex.2 He died in 1373.2 Sir John Drummond, 11th of Lennox lived at Strobhall, Scotland.1
Children of Sir John Drummond, 11th of Lennox and Mary Montifex
* Dougal Drummond 2
* Annabel Drummond+ b. c 1350, d. c Oct 1401
* Sir Malcolm Drummond b. 1351, d. 1403
* Margaret Drummond b. 1354
* Sir John Drummond, 12th of Lennox+ b. 1356, d. 1428
* Mary Drummond b. 1357
* William Drummond b. 1358
* Jean Drummond b. 1362

notes
From http://www.electricscotland.com/webclans/dtog/drummon2.html
The wife of John, the eldest son, was Mary, eldest daughter and co-heiress of Sir William de Montefex, with whom he got the lands of Auchterarder, Kincardine in Monteith, Cargill, and Stobhall in Perthshire.
He had four sons,
Sir Malcolm,
Sir John,
William, and
Dougal;
and three daughters -
Annabella, married, in 1357, John, Earl of Carrick, high steward of Scotland, afterwards King Robert the Third, and thus became Queen of Scotland, and the mother of David, Duke of Rothesay, starved to death in the palace of Falkland, in 1402, and of James the First, as well as of three daughters;
Margaret, married to Sir Colin Campbell of Lochow,
Jean, to Stewart of Donally, and
Mary, to Macdonald of the Isles.
Citations
G.E. Cokayne; with Vicary Gibbs, H.A. Doubleday, Geoffrey H. White, Duncan Warrand and Lord Howard de Walden, editors, The Complete Peerage of England, Scotland, Ireland, Great Britain and the United Kingdom, Extant, Extinct or Dormant, new ed., 13 volumes in 14 (1910-1959; reprint in 6 volumes, Gloucester, U.K.: Alan Sutton Publishing, 2000), volume I, page 155. Hereinafter cited as The Complete Peerage.
Derek Hughes, "re: 1st Lord Drummond," e-mail message from (unknown address) to Darryl Lundy, 22 December 2004, 13 February 2005 and 2 March 2005. Hereinafter cited as "re: 1st Lord Drummond".
Charles Mosley, editor, Burke's Peerage and Baronetage, 106th edition, 2 volumes (Crans, Switzerland: Burke's Peerage (Genealogical Books) Ltd, 1999), volume 1, page 104. Hereinafter cited as Burke's Peerage and Baronetage, 106th edition.

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The Drummonds, according to unvarying tradition, are of Hungarian origin, Maurice, the first of that family who settled in Scotland, having come from that country in 1066 with Edgar the Atheling and Margaret, his sister, afterwards wife of King Malcolm III of Scotland. Maurice adopted the name Drummond from the Gaelic 'druim' and 'monadh', that is 'back of the mountain'. Maurice was the son of George, a younger son of Andreas, King of Hungary. Andreas could trace his ancestry to Arpad, the Magyar king who conquered Hungary (d. 907), who m. a dt. of Jaroslav, the king of Novgorod and Kiev. Jaroslav was descended from the Swedish Viking Rurik (d. 870), who became king of Novgorod. The Swedish conquerors were called the Rus, or fair-haired, from which the word 'Russia' is derived

According to Europ√§ische Stammtafeln, the eldest son of Andr√°s I King of Hungary went to Scotland in 1055, where he is alleged to have been the ancestor of the Drummond family[409].¬â€  If this is correct, it is surprising that this Hungarian origin is not mentioned either in The Complete Peerage[410] or in Burke's Dormant and Extinct Peerages[411].¬â€  It is stated in Burke's Peerage & Baronetage[412] that the Drummond family "allegedly migrated from Hungary to Scotland in the 11th century" but no details of the alleged ancestry are given earlier than Malcolm Drummond (early 14th century).¬â€  In any case, it is unclear why the king of Hungary's eldest son, whose eventual succession prospects must have been good despite the rule of primogeniture not having been established to govern the Hungarian succession, would have left his country in this way.¬â€  Balfour Paul recounts the tradition that "Maurice, a Hungarian of noble birth" commanded the Dromond, the ship which took Edgar √Ütheling and his sisters into exile in Scotland in [1067], was rewarded with lands, and was ancestor of the family which adopted its name from the vessel[413].¬â€ 
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1.¬â€ ¬â€ ¬â€ ¬â€ ¬â€ ¬â€ ¬â€ ¬â€  MALCOLM Beg (-after [1250]).¬â€  "·Ä¶Malcolmo Beg·Ä¶" witnessed the charter dated 3 Mar 1238 under which "Maldoney comes de Levenax" donated property to Paisley monastery[414].¬â€  "·Ä¶Malcolmo Beg, Johanne filio suo·Ä¶" witnessed the undated charter under which "Maldouney comes de Levenax" granted property to "domino David de Grame"[415].¬â€  m ---.¬â€  The name of Malcolm·Äôs wife is not known.¬â€  Malcolm & his wife had [two] children:¬â€ 
a)¬â€ ¬â€ ¬â€ ¬â€ ¬â€ ¬â€ ¬â€ ¬â€  [MALCOLM de Drummond (-after 1301).¬â€  "·Ä¶Malcolmo de Drummond·Ä¶" witnessed the charter dated 14 Feb 1273 under which "Malcolmus comes de Levenax" confirmed the lands of the church of Kilpatrick[416].¬â€  m ---.¬â€  The name of Malcolm·Äôs wife is not known.¬â€  Malcolm & his wife had [two] children:¬â€ 
i)¬â€ ¬â€ ¬â€ ¬â€ ¬â€ ¬â€ ¬â€ ¬â€ ¬â€  [GILBERT de Drummond (-[killed in battle Dupplin 12 Aug 1332]).¬â€  m MATILDA, daughter of ---.¬â€  Gilbert & his wife had four children:¬â€ 
(a)¬â€ ¬â€ ¬â€ ¬â€ ¬â€ ¬â€  ELLEN de Drummond .¬â€ 
(b)¬â€ ¬â€ ¬â€ ¬â€ ¬â€ ¬â€  ELIZABETH de Drummond .¬â€ ¬â€ 
(c)¬â€ ¬â€ ¬â€ ¬â€ ¬â€ ¬â€  JOANNA de Drummond .¬â€ 
(d)¬â€ ¬â€ ¬â€ ¬â€ ¬â€ ¬â€  ANNABELLA de Drummond .¬â€ 
ii)¬â€ ¬â€ ¬â€ ¬â€ ¬â€ ¬â€ ¬â€ ¬â€  MALCOLM de Drummond (-after 1346).¬â€  m ---.¬â€  The name of Malcolm·Äôs wife is not known.¬â€  Malcolm & his wife had three children:¬â€ 
-¬â€ ¬â€ ¬â€ ¬â€ ¬â€ ¬â€ ¬â€ ¬â€  see below.¬â€ 
b)¬â€ ¬â€ ¬â€ ¬â€ ¬â€ ¬â€ ¬â€ ¬â€  JOHN de Drummond (-after Oct 1304).¬â€  "·Ä¶Malcolmo Beg, Johanne filio suo·Ä¶" witnessed the undated charter under which "Maldouney comes de Levenax" granted property to "domino David de Grame"[417].¬â€  m ELENA, daughter of --- (-after 11 Oct 1304).¬â€  Land in restored Northumberland was restored to "John de Drummond and Elena his wife·Äôs dower there" by charter dated 11 Oct 1304[418].¬â€  John & his wife had two children:¬â€ 
i)¬â€ ¬â€ ¬â€ ¬â€ ¬â€ ¬â€ ¬â€ ¬â€ ¬â€  CHRISTIANA de Drummond .¬â€  "Malcolmus comes de Levenax" granted "totam terram de Ardeureane et Ardenalochreth" to "Christiane et Margarete de Drummond filiabus Johannis de Drummond" by undated charter[419].¬â€ 
ii)¬â€ ¬â€ ¬â€ ¬â€ ¬â€ ¬â€ ¬â€ ¬â€  MARGARET de Drummond .¬â€  "Malcolmus comes de Levenax" granted "totam terram de Ardeureane et Ardenalochreth" to "Christiane et Margarete de Drummond filiabus Johannis de Drummond" by undated charter[420].¬â€ 
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MALCOLM de Drummond, son of MALCOLM de Drummond & his wife --- (-after 1346).¬â€ 
m ---.¬â€  The name of Malcolm·Äôs wife is not known.¬â€ 
Malcolm & his wife had three children:¬â€ 
1.¬â€ ¬â€ ¬â€ ¬â€ ¬â€ ¬â€ ¬â€ ¬â€  JOHN Drummond (-after 1360).¬â€  m [MARY Montefichet, daughter of WILLIAM Montefichet of Auchterarder and Cargill & his wife ---].¬â€  John Drummond had three children:¬â€ 
a)¬â€ ¬â€ ¬â€ ¬â€ ¬â€ ¬â€ ¬â€ ¬â€  MALCOLM Drummond (-Nov 1402).¬â€  m (before Jul 1388) ISABEL Douglas, daughter of WILLIAM Earl of Douglas & Mar & his wife Margaret of Mar ([1360]-[Aug/Sep] 1408).¬â€  Ctss of Mar, suo iure.¬â€  She married secondly as his first wife, Alexander Stewart.¬â€  The seal of "Isabel comitissa de Mare et Garviath" is appended to a contract between "Isabella de Douglas countess of Mar and of Garviach" and "Sir Alexander Stuart son of Alexander Stuart Earl of Buchan" dated 1404[421].¬â€ 
b)¬â€ ¬â€ ¬â€ ¬â€ ¬â€ ¬â€ ¬â€ ¬â€  JOHN Drummond (-1428).¬â€  m ELIZABETH St Clair, daughter of HENRY St Clair Earl of Orkney & his wife ---.¬â€ 
-¬â€ ¬â€ ¬â€ ¬â€ ¬â€ ¬â€ ¬â€  DRUMMOND FAMILY, later EARLS of PERTH.¬â€ 
c)¬â€ ¬â€ ¬â€ ¬â€ ¬â€ ¬â€ ¬â€ ¬â€  ANNABEL Drummond ([1350]-1401).¬â€  The Liber Pluscardensis records the coronation at Scone in 1390 of "rex Robertus tercius" and "Anabella de Drommond"[422].¬â€  The Liber Pluscardensis records the death in 1401 of "Anabella"[423].¬â€  m ([1367]) JOHN Stewart, son of ROBERT II King of Scotland & his first wife Elizabeth Mure (1337-4 Apr 1406).¬â€  He succeeded his father in 1390 as ROBERT III King of Scotland.¬â€ 
2.¬â€ ¬â€ ¬â€ ¬â€ ¬â€ ¬â€ ¬â€ ¬â€  MAURICE Drummond (-after 1368).¬â€ 
3.¬â€ ¬â€ ¬â€ ¬â€ ¬â€ ¬â€ ¬â€ ¬â€  MARGARET Drummond (-[Avignon] soon after 31 Jan 1375).¬â€  The Chronicle of John of Fordun (Continuator - Annals) records the second marriage of "lord David king of Scotland" and "Margaret of Logie" at "Inchmurdach" in 1363[424].¬â€  The Liber Pluscardensis records the marriage "apud Enchemarthow", dated to [1362/63] from the context, of King David and "Margaretam de Logi, filiam domini Malcolmi de Drummond" and their divorce without her consent "circa festum Carnis Brevii" in 1369[425].¬â€  m firstly JOHN Logie of that Ilk, son of ---.¬â€  m secondly (Inchmurdach Manor, Fife or Inchmahone Priory, Perthshire Apr or Dec 1363, divorced 20 Mar 1370) as his second wife, DAVID II King of Scotland, son of ROBERT I King of Scotland & his second wife Elizabeth de Burgh (Dunfermline Palace, Fife 5 Mar 1324-Edinburgh Castle 22 Feb 1371, bur Holyrood Abbey, Edinburgh).¬â€ 
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