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Personal data Giraud ou Girard II de Forez Comte de Forez

He was born about 985 in Le Forez, Loire, Lyonnais/Rhone-Alpes, France.
He died about March 5, 1058 in France.
A child of Artaud III de Forez and Pâ©tronille LNU
This information was last updated on August 10, 2023.

Household of Giraud ou Girard II de Forez Comte de Forez

He is married to Adelaide Alix de Gevaudan.

They got married

Child(ren):

Artaud IV Artold de Forez ± 1029-± 1078

Notes about Giraud ou Girard II de Forez Comte de Forez

Giraud ou Girard II Comte de Forez (de Forez), II
Gender:
Male
Birth:
circa 985 Le Forez, Loire, Lyonnais/Rhone-Alpes, France
Death:
March 05, 1058 (68-77) France

Immediate Family:
Son of Artaud III de Forez, comte de Lyon

Husband of Adelaide Alix De Gevaudan

Father of Artaud V de Forez, comte de Lyon

Brother of Artaud IV de Forez, comte de Lyon

Half brother of Ismidon de Forez (de Sassenage), Prince de Royans and Hector de Forez

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Giraud II de Forez is your 30th great grandfather.
You
¬â ·Üí Henry Marvin Welborn
your father ·Üí Henry Marvin Welborn, Sr.
his father ·Üí Calhoun H. Welborn
his father ·Üí Younger Welborn, II
his father ·Üí William "Billy" Welborn
his father ·Üí Aaron W Welborn, Sr.
his father ·Üí James Welborn
his father ·Üí Ann Wellborn (Crabtree)
his mother ·Üí Jane Ann Pendleton Crabtree (Halstead)
her mother ·Üí Grace Halstead (Courtney)
her mother ·Üí Mary Courtenay (Stucley)
her mother ·Üí John Stucley, of Affeton
her father ·Üí Sir Lewis Stukley
his father ·Üí Frances Culpepper (St. Leger)
his mother ·Üí Catherine Saint Leger (Neville)
her mother ·Üí Sir George Neville, 5th and de jure 3rd Baron Bergavenny
her father ·Üí George Neville, 4th and de jure 2nd Baron Bergavenny
his father ·Üí Edward Neville, 3rd Baron of Bergavenny
his father ·Üí Joan Beaufort, Countess of Westmorland
his mother ·Üí John of Gaunt, 1st Duke of Lancaster, 1st Earl of Richmond
her father ·Üí Edward III, king of England
his father ·Üí Isabella of France, Queen consort of England
his mother ·Üí Jeanne I, Queen of Navarre
her mother ·Üí Henry I the Fat, king of Navarre
her father ·Üí Marguerite de Bourbon, reina de Navarra
his mother ·Üí Alix de Forez
her mother ·Üí Guigues "Branda" de Forez, III, Count of Forez
her father ·Üí Guigues de Forez, III, Comte de Lyon et de Forez
his father ·Üí Guigues d'Albon, II, Comte de Lyon et de Forez
his father ·Üí Ide Raymonde, comtesse douairiâ®re de Forez
his mother ·Üí Artaud V de Forez, comte de Lyon
her father ·Üí Giraud II de Forez
his father

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GERAUD (-[5 Mar or 20 Sep] after 1046).¬â "Girardus comes" donated property "in pago Lugdunensi in ago Tarnantensi in finibus villâ¶·Ä¶Conziacus" to Savigny for the souls of "patris mei Artaldi et matris meâ¶ Theotbergiâ¶ et fratris mei Artaldi" by charter dated [1017][59].¬â "Geraldus comes et uxor mea Adalaix" donated the church of Saint-Pierre d·ÄôAurec to the abbey of Saint-Michel-l·ÄôEcluse en Savoie, by charter dated "VIII Id Feb regnante Rodulfo rege die Jovis", subscribed by "Artaldus et Gaufredus seu Vilelemus eorum filii"[60].¬â Radulfus Glaber records that ·ÄúGeraldus comes·Äù attempted to impose ·Äúsuum filium puerulum·Äù (unnamed) as archbishop of Lyon after the death of archbishop Burchard in 1033[61].¬â "Girardi comitis" witnessed a charter dated 1046 under which "Gauzerannus" donated property "ecclesiam Sancti Joannis Baptistâ¶ de Tarnanto·Ä¶et ecclesiam Sancti Victorie·Ä¶in pago Lugdunensi" to the abbey of Savigny[62].¬â The 13th century obituary of the Eglise primatiale de Lyon records the death "III Non Mar" of "Geraldus comes"[63].¬â The necrology of the priory of Ambierle en Roannois records the death "XII Kal Oct" of "Gerardus comes"[64].¬â m ADELAIDE, daughter of ---.¬â "Geraldus comes et uxor mea Adalaix" donated the church of Saint-Pierre d·ÄôAurec to the abbey of Saint-Michel-l·ÄôEcluse en Savoie, by charter dated "VIII Id Feb regnante Rodulfo rege die Jovis", subscribed by "Artaldus et Gaufredus seu Vilelemus eorum filii"[65].¬â According to Auguste Bernard, she was Adelaide, daughter of Pons de Gâ©vaudun & [his first wife ---], but he cites no primary or secondary source on which this is based[66].¬â The source in question appears to be La Mure, which provides the same information but also omits any primary source reference[67].¬â Gâ©raud & his wife had five children:¬â
a)¬â ¬â ¬â ¬â ¬â ¬â ¬â ¬â ARTAUD [IV] (-[14 May 1078/6 Dec 1079]).¬â "Geraldus comes et uxor mea Adalaix" donated the church of Saint-Pierre d·ÄôAurec to the abbey of Saint-Michel-l·ÄôEcluse en Savoie, by charter dated "VIII Id Feb regnante Rodulfo rege die Jovis", subscribed by "Artaldus et Gaufredus seu Vilelemus eorum filii"[68]. ¬â Comte de Forez.¬â
-¬â ¬â ¬â ¬â ¬â ¬â ¬â see below.¬â
b)¬â ¬â ¬â ¬â ¬â ¬â ¬â ¬â GEOFFROY GUILLAUME .¬â "Geraldus comes et uxor mea Adalaix" donated the church of Saint-Pierre d·ÄôAurec to the abbey of Saint-Michel-l·ÄôEcluse en Savoie, by charter dated "VIII Id Feb regnante Rodulfo rege die Jovis", subscribed by "Artaldus et Gaufredus seu Vilelemus eorum filii"[69].¬â
c)¬â ¬â ¬â ¬â ¬â ¬â ¬â ¬â [ROTULPHE ([1015/25]-).¬â La Mure·Äôs Histoire des Comtes de Forez names "Rotulpha ou Rotulphe de Forez" as "la seconde des fille de [Comte Gâ©raud]", adding that she married "Guy I Seigneur de Lavieu·Ä¶vicomte"[70].¬â He cites "Antoine de Laval" as his source, the preceding page clarifying that this refers to "les mâ©moires manuscrits du docte Forâ©sien Antoine de Laval", presumably a contemporary of La Mure·Äôs although this is not stated[71].¬â Auguste Bernard also refers to her and her marriage, citing La Mure but no other source[72].¬â In the absence of any primary source, there must be some doubt about her existence and marriage, based on the following reasoning.¬â "Geraldi·Ä¶comitis·Ä¶Vuigonis senioris" subscribed the undated charter, "regnante Rodulfo rege" so dated to [993/1032], under which "filii Fredelanni, Hugo et Bernardus" founded the priory of Arnas in Beaujolais[73].¬â La Mure identifies the subscribers as Gâ©raud Comte de Forez and Guigues [Vicomte] de Lavieu[74].¬â If this identification is correct, the dating of the charter quoted above suggests that Rotulphe (if she existed) was probably too young to have been the wife of Vicomte Guigues.¬â In addition, other sources (see Part C of this chapter below) name Guigues [I] Vicomte [de Lyon] in 982 and [1030], and name his wife Euphemia.¬â It is therefore likely that "Guigues de Lavieu Vicomte" was the same person as Guigues [I] Vicomte de Lyon.¬â m GUIGUES de Lavieu, son of ---.]¬â
d)¬â ¬â ¬â ¬â ¬â ¬â ¬â ¬â [son ([1020/25]-).¬â Radulfus Glaber records that ·ÄúGeraldus comes·Äù attempted to impose ·Äúsuum filium puerulum·Äù (unnamed) as archbishop of Lyon after the death of archbishop Burchard in 1033[75].¬â It would seem that a birth date range of [1020/25] would be consistent with ·Äúpuerulum·Äù.¬â The name of this son is not known.¬â He may have been the son who is named Geoffroy Guillaume above.]¬â
e)¬â ¬â ¬â ¬â ¬â ¬â ¬â ¬â [PREVE .¬â La Mure·Äôs Histoire des Comtes de Forez names "Sainte Prâ®ve" as the daughter of "Gâ©rard·Ä¶comte de Lyon et de Forez·Ä¶et·Ä¶Adalaix", citing "la tradition locale·Ä¶de Pomiers" and adding that she founded the priory of Pomiers en Forez and was murdered by her brothers after refusing to marry a local lord[76].¬â He cites no primary source on which he bases his statements, and until confirmation emerges it is preferable to show Prâ®ve in square brackets to indicate doubt about her affiliation.]¬â

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Artaud II de Forez
± 965-± 1007

Adâ©laâØs d'Annonay
± 1010-± 1070

Artaud III de Forez
± 1003-± 1076

Pâ©tronille LNU
± 1010-????

Giraud ou Girard II de Forez
± 985-± 1058

Adelaide Alix de Gevaudan
± 1005-????



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