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Personal data Ebles II Ebalus Manzer ·ÄúThe Bastard·Äù de Poitiers Aquitaine duc d'Aquitaine
Sources 1, 2, 3, 4- He was born about February 27, 876 in Poitou-Charentes, Poitiers, Vienne, Nouvelle-Aquitaine, France.Sources 1, 4
- He died about May 27, 935 in Poitou-Charentes, Poitiers, Vienne, Nouvelle-Aquitaine, France.Sources 1, 4
- He is buried in France.
- A child of Ranulf II de Poitiers (d'Aquitaine) and NN Mistress of Rainulfe II
- A child of Ranulf II de Poitiers (d'Aquitaine) and FNU Mistress of Rainulfe II
- This information was last updated on November 20, 2022.
Household of Ebles II Ebalus Manzer ·ÄúThe Bastard·Äù de Poitiers Aquitaine duc d'Aquitaine
(1) He is married to Emiliane Emelienne of Poitou.
Marriage
Date: 11 Jul
Place: , , , France
Marriage
Date: Bef. 892 AD
Marriage
Place: France
Marriage
Date: 911 AD
Place: Wessex, England
Marriage
Place: Bordeaux, Gironde, Aquitaine, France
Marriage
Place: Bordeaux, Gironde, Aquitaine, France
They got married on February 11, 915 at Bordeaux, Gironde, Aquitaine, France.
Child(ren):
- William I Aquitaine 903-965
(2) He is married to Elgiva England.
Marriage
Place: Bordeaux, Gironde, Aquitaine, France
Marriage
Date: 928 AD
Marriage
Date: 911 AD
Place: Poitiers, Vienna, France
Marriage
Date: 11 Jul
Place: France***Data is already there***
Marriage
Date: 11 Feb 915 AD
Place: Poitiers, Vienne, Poitou-Charentes, France
Marriage
Place: , , , England
They got married on February 11, 915 at Poitiers, Vienne, Poitou-Charentes, France.
Child(ren):
- William II d'Aquitaine de Aquitaine 929-1030
- Adelaide Daquitaine de Poitiers ????-1006
(3) He is married to Adele of ENGLAND.
They got married
(4) He is married to Eadgifu Wessex,.
Marriage
Date: 911 AD
Place: Poitiers, Vienna, France
They got married in the year 928 at Poitiers, Aquitaine, Bordeaux, France.
(5) He is married to Geerloc Adele Adeheid de Normandy.
They got married
Child(ren):
Notes about Ebles II Ebalus Manzer ·ÄúThe Bastard·Äù de Poitiers Aquitaine duc d'Aquitaine
Ebles II Manzer
Ebles Manzer de Poitiers, duc d'Aquitaine
Gender:
Male
Birth:
February 27, 876
Poitou-Charentes, Poitiers, Vienne, Nouvelle-Aquitaine, France
Death:
May 27, 935 (59)
Poitou-Charentes, Poitiers, Vienne, Nouvelle-Aquitaine, France
Place of Burial:
France
Immediate Family:
Son of Ranulf II de Poitiers, Comte de Poitou, Duc d'Aquitaine and NN, Mistress of Rainulfe II
Husband of ââmilienne of Poitou
Father of Guillaume 'Tââ¢te d'â©toupe' d'Aquitaine, III duc d'Aquitaine, I comte de Poitou
Half brother of Ranulf III, Count of Poitou
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EBLE "Mancer", illegitimate son of RAINULF II Comte de Poitou, Duke of Aquitaine & his mistress --- ([870/75]-[932/34]).¬â The Chronicle of Adâ©mar de Chabannes names "Eblum" as son of "Ramnulfus·Ä¶comes Pictaviensis", another manuscript specifying that he was born "ex concubina"[326].¬â The Chronicle of Saint-Maxence names "Ramnulfus comes·Ä¶Pictavensis·Ä¶filium Eblum"[327].¬â The Chronico Richardi Pictavensis names "Ramnulfus Comes Pictavis filium·Ä¶Eblum"[328].¬â He succeeded his father in 890 as EBLE "Mancer" Comte de Poitou, his illegitimacy apparently presenting no obstacle to his succession, although he was opposed by Adâ©mar, son of Comte Emenon.¬â Comte Eble found refuge first with Gâ©raud Seigneur d'Aurillac, later with Guillaume "le Pieux" Comte d'Auvergne, his uncles Gauzbert and Eble assuming the defence of his rights to Poitou until their deaths in late 892[329].¬â Poitou was captured by the forces of Eudes King of France, who gave the county to his brother Robert, who was expelled by Comte Aimar[330].¬â Comte Eble expelled Comte Aimar in 902 and was restored as Comte de Poitou.¬â He was recognised as Comte du Limousin in 904[331].¬â Guillaume de Jumiâ®ges records that Rollo invaded ·ÄúLeugas...montis·Äù and that "Ebulus...Pictavensis comes" was unable to defeat him[332].¬â Acfred Duke of Aquitaine appointed Eble as his heir, who succeeded as Duke of Aquitaine and Comte d'Auvergne in 927[333].¬â Raoul King of France transferred Aquitaine to Raymond Comte de Toulouse in 932[334].¬â "Ebolus·Ä¶Pictavorum·Ä¶comes" donated "in pago Alninse, Ingolinis, in villa·Ä¶Verzeria" to St Cyprien, Poitiers by charter dated Jan 934 ("anno XI regnante Radulfo rege")[335].¬â On the other hand, a charter dated 932 was confirmed by "Guillelmus comes·Ä¶post mortem patris sui"[336].¬â It is assumed that one of the documents is incorrectly dated.¬â
[m firstly] (betrothed before 10 Oct 892) AREMBURGE, daughter of ---.¬â She is named as the betrothed of Eble in his charter dated 10 Oct 890[337]: "Ebolus [·Ä¶comite] iuuenili adhuc â¶tate florens" donated "alodum·Ä¶Aleriacum in pago Briocinse in vicaria Sauiniacinse super fluvium Carantum·Ä¶Ciliacum·Ä¶Curcolmum" to Tours Saint-Martin, for the souls of "genitoris mei Ramnulfi·Ä¶ac avunculorum meorum Gauzberti et Eboli", and naming "sponsa eius·Ä¶Aremburgis·Ä¶in futuris nuptiis", by charter dated 10 Oct 892[338].¬â This document is redated to 10 Oct 890 by Mabille[339].¬â No document has been found which confirms that the marriage was ever finalised.¬â
m [secondly] (before Feb 911) EMILLANE, daughter of --- (-after [932/36]).¬â "Emmena femina" granted property "allodus situs in pago Pictavo in vicaria Salvinse in villa·Ä¶Baidonnus" to "domnum Ebolum comitem et·Ä¶uxorem eius Emillane" by charter dated Feb 911[340].¬â Ademar names "Adelam, filiam Rosi Rotomagensis" as wife of Eble and mother of "Willelmum Caputstupâ¶", but this is chronologically impossible, the individual being confused no doubt with the wife of Comte Guillaume I[341].¬â The Chronico Comitum Pictaviⶠnames "Hadelliam·Ä¶Adestani regis Angliⶠfiliam" as wife of "Ebles Dux Aquitaniⶠet PictaviⶠComes"[342], but this also appears impossible.¬â "Willelmi comitis, Alaine comitisse que fuit monacha" subscribed the donation by "Rotbertus clericus" of property to St Cyprien, Poitiers by charter dated [932/36][343], it being assumed that "Alaine" was the mother of Comte Guillaume I although no relationship is stated in the document.¬â
Comte Ebalus & his [second] wife had two children:
1.¬â ¬â ¬â ¬â ¬â ¬â ¬â ¬â GUILLAUME de Poitou ([900]-Poitiers 3 Apr 963).¬â The Chronicle of Adâ©mar de Chabannes names "Willelmus·Ä¶cognomento Caput stupe" as one of the two sons of "Eblo duce", specifying that he was "Arvernis, Vallatis, Lemovice et Pictavis comes·Ä¶dux Aquitaniâ¶"[344].¬â He succeeded his father as GUILLAUME I ·ÄúTââ¢te d'Etoupes/Caput-stup⶷Äù Comte de Poitou.¬â He succeeded in 959 as GUILLAUME III Duke of Aquitaine.¬â
-‰ ‰ ‰ ‰ ‰ ‰ ‰ see below, Chapter 6.‰
2.¬â ¬â ¬â ¬â ¬â ¬â ¬â ¬â EBLE de Poitou (-Abbaye de Saint-Michel-en-Lherm 26 Feb 977[345]).¬â The Chronicle of Adâ©mar de Chabannes names "Eblus·Ä¶pontifex Lemovicâ¶" as one of the two sons of "Eblo duce", specifying that he was abbot of "Sancti Hilarii ac Sancti Maxencii"[346].¬â Louis IV King of France confirmed the property of Saint-Hilaire de Poitiers, in the presence of "Guillelmus comes et marchio et frater eius Ebolus atque Rotgarius comes", by charter dated 5 Jan 942[347].¬â "Guillelmus·Ä¶Aquitanici ducatus comes" was present in a property transaction recorded by charter dated Jul 959 which also names "fratre nostro Ebulone episcopo abbate"[348].¬â The restoration by "Eblo episcopus Lemovice civitatis et comes Pictavorum" of the abbey of Saint-Maixent with the consent of "fratre eius Willelmo duce Aquitanorum" is recorded in a charter dated [960][349].¬â "Ebulus·Ä¶Lemovicensium sedis episcopus" donated property including "alodum·Ä¶meum Baidon" to Saint-Maixent "pro remedio anim⶷Ķfratris mei Guillelmi, sive pro consolatione nepotism mei equivoci Guillelmi Aquitanorum ducis" by charter dated Jan [965/66][350].¬â Richard suggests that this charter shows that the mother of Ebalus must have been Emillane, but his reasoning appears to be faulty.¬â He states firstly that Ebalus declares in the document that Baidon belonged to him "ââ titre hâ©râ©ditaire" (although the precise wording "allodium·Ä¶meum" does not convey this meaning) and secondly that this property must have come to him from his mother who, he says, acquired the property in 911 (although she acquired the property jointly with her husband, as shown by the charter quoted above)[351].¬â Abbâ© de Saint Maixent 936.¬â Thesaurius of Saint-Hilaire-de-Poitiers 937/77.¬â Bishop of Limoges 944.¬â He resigned in 963 and became Abbâ© de Saint-Michel-en-Lherm.¬â He was captured by Hâ©lie Comte de Pâ©rigord and blinded[352].¬â
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Eble Mancer, Comte de Poitou, Duc d'Aquitaine
Married:
1. Aremburgis (Erembourge), no children
2. Emilienne, two children
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ebalus_of_Aquitaine
Ebalus, Duke of Aquitaine
Born c. 870
Died 935
Noble family House of Poitiers
Spouse(s) Aremburga Emilienne Adele
Father Ranulf II of Aquitaine
Mother ?
Ebalus or Ebles Manzer or Manser (c. 870 ·Äì 935) was Count of Poitou and Duke of Aquitaine on two occasions: from 890 to 892; and then from 902 until his death in 935 (Poitou) and from 928 until 932 (Aquitaine).
Ebles was an illegitimate son of Ranulf II of Aquitaine. "Manzer" or "Mamzer" is a Hebrew word that means bastard, son of a forbidden relationship, although in the case of Ebles it may have been applied to bastardy in general.
by the above - the woman below have been erroneously attached as his mother
Irmgard of Poitou
Gender: Female
Birth: estimated between 812 and 870
Immediate Family:
Wife of Duke Ranulf of Aquitaine
Mother of Ebles II Manzer, duc d'Aquitaine
Added by: Jeannie Eggert on August 23, 2017
By Curators note of "his is the Master Profile for Judith N.N., Mistress of Rainulfe II. Curator Note from Sharon Lee Doubell (4/2/2011): This is the mother of Ranulf II's illegitimate son, Ebalus. Please do NOT merge her with Ranulf II's wife, Ermengard."
NN, Mistress of Rainulfe II
Gender: Female
Birth: 854 Wantage, Berkshire, England
Death: circa 910 (52-60) Altdorf, Germany
Immediate Family:
Daughter of Louis II "the Stammerer" King of France and Ansgarde Princess of Burgundy
Wife of Eticho I, count in Ammergau
Partner of Ranulf II, duc d'Aquitaine even tho the [ https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ebalus,_Duke_of_Aquitaine wikipedia states mother as unknown for Ebalus, Duke of Aquitaine]
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From the Foundation for Medieval Genealogy page on Aquitaine:
http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/AQUITAINE.htm
EBLE "Mancer", illegitimate son of RAINULF II Comte de Poitou, Duke of Aquitaine & his mistress --- ([870/75]-[Jan 934/935]).
The Chronicle of Adâ©mar de Chabannes names "Eblum" as son of "Ramnulfus·Ä¶comes Pictaviensis", another manuscript specifying that he was born "ex concubina"[283]. The Chronicle of Saint-Maxence names "Ramnulfus comes·Ä¶Pictavensis·Ä¶filium Eblum"[284]. The Chronico Richardi Pictavensis names "Ramnulfus Comes Pictavis filium·Ä¶Eblum"[285].
He succeeded his father in 890 as EBLE "Mancer" Comte de Poitou, his illegitimacy apparently presenting no obstacle to his succession, although this was opposed by Adâ©mar, son of Comte Emenon.
Comte Eble found refuge first with Gâ©raud Seigneur d'Aurillac, later with Guillaume "le Pieux" Comte d'Auvergne, his uncles Josbert and Eble assuming the defence of his rights to Poitou until their deaths in late 892[286]. Poitou was captured by the forces of Eudes King of France, who gave the county to his brother Robert although the latter was expelled by Comte Aimar[287].
Comte Eble expelled Comte Aimar in 902 and was restored as Comte de Poitou.
He was recognised as Comte du Limousin in 904[288].
Acfred Duke of Aquitaine appointed Eble as his heir, the latter succeeding as Duke of Aquitaine and Comte d'Auvergne in 927[289].
Raoul King of France transferred Aquitaine to Raymond Comte de Toulouse in 932[290].
His last known act was a donation to the monks of Saint-Cyprien dated Jan 934[291].
m firstly (betrothed before 10 Oct 890, [891/92]%29 AREMBURGIS, daughter of ---. Her future husband names her as his betrothed in an act dated 10 Oct 890[292].
m secondly (before Feb 911) EMILLANE, daughter of --- (-[932/36] or after).
Comte Ebalus & his [second] wife had two children:
1.Guillaume de Poitou (b. c.900, d. 3 April 963 in Poitou, succeeded as Comte de Poitou as Guillaume Tete d'Etoupes/Capite-Stupae or William the Towheaded, and later as Duc d'Aquitaine, OUR ANCESTOR)
2. Ebalus de Poitou (d. 26 February 977 at Abbaye de St-Michel-en-Lherm, where he was Abbot, Bishop of Limoges, blinded by Helie, Comte de Perigord)
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From Darryl Lundy's Peerage page on Ebalus, Duc d'Aquitaine (Forrâ°s / Source):
http://www.thepeerage.com/p14152.htm#i141516
Ebalus, Duc d'Aquitaine (1)
M, #141516, d. 934
Last Edited=13 Jul 2005
Ebalus, Duc d'Aquitaine died in 934. (1)
Ebalus, Duc d'Aquitaine also went by the nick-name of Ebalus 'the Bastard' (?).1 He was a member of the House of Poitiers.1 He gained the title of Comte de Poitou in 890.1 He gained the title of Duc d'Aquitaine in 927.1
Child of Ebalus, Duc d'Aquitaine
1. Guillaume III, Duc d'Aquitaine+ b. c 915, d. 3 Apr 963 (1)
Wikipedia:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ebalus_of_Aquitaine
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Ebalus or Ebles Manzer or Manser (c. 870 ·Äì 935) was Count of Poitou and Duke of Aquitaine on two occasions: from 890 to 892 and from 902 (Poitou) and 927 (Aquitaine) to his death.
Ebles was an illegitimate son of Ranulf II of Aquitaine. The meaning of his surname is disputed. Manzer is a Germanic habitational name, but also a Germanic personal name formed from magin, meaning "strength" or "might" (cf magnus). The same surname was used by another Prince from Occitania, Arnaud Manzer, Count of Angoulême (born 952-died 988/92), who also was a bastard. No other European Prince used the name Manzer. This fact makes the speculation about the Germanic origin of the Ebles' surname problematic.
Ebles succeeded his father Ranulf in 890, but was driven out in 892 by Aymar, who was supported by Eudes of France. Ebles gained the backing of William the Pious, Count of Auvergne, who placed Aquitaine under his own authority in 893.
In 902, Ebles launched the reconquest of his county with an army lent by his distant relative William the Pious. He took Poitiers while Aymar was away and established control of the county. He was invested as count by Charles III, with whom Ebles had been raised.
The comital title was the only one to which he ever had legitimate investiture. Ebles allotted the abbey of Saint-Maixent to Savary, Viscount of Thouars, who had been his constant supporter. He restructured Poitou by creating new viscounties in Aulnay and Melle and dissolved the title and position of Viscount of Poitou upon the death of its holder, Maingaud, in 925.
In 904, he conquered the Limousin. In 911, Ebles was in Chartres with an army to oppose Rollo, the Viking leader.
In 927, William the Younger, successor of William the Pious, and then his successor, his brother Acfred, died in the space of one year. Acfred had made Ebles his heir; Ebles thus found himself Duke of Aquitaine, Count of Berry, Auvergne, and Velay.
In 929, King Rudolph started trying to reduce the power of Ebles. He withdrew from him access to Berry, then in 932 he transferred the titles of Duke of Aquitaine and Count of Auvergne to the Count of Toulouse, Raymond Pons. Moreover, the territory of La Marche, which was under the control of the lord of Charroux, vassal of Ebles, was transformed into an independent county.
[edit] Marriage and issue
Ebalus married Emilienne and they had two sons:
* Ebalus, Bishop of Limoges
* William III of Aquitaine married Gerloc, daughter of Rollo of Normandy
[edit] See also
* Dukes of Aquitaine family tree
[edit] Sources
* Lewis, Archibald R. The Development of Southern French and Catalan Society, 718-1050. [1] [2]
Ebalus, Duke of Aquitaine
House of Poitou
Born: 870 Died: 935
French nobility
Preceded by
Ranulf II Duke of Aquitaine
890 ·Äì 892 Succeeded by
William I
Preceded by
Acfred Duke of Aquitaine
902 ·Äì 935 Succeeded by
William III
Preceded by
Robert Count of Poitiers
927 ·Äì 935
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Ebalus Mancer, genannt der Bastard (frz.: Ebles Manzer; * um 870; ·Äâ 935), war ein Graf von Poitou und Herzog von Aquitanien aus der Familie der Ramnulfiden.
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Er war ein unehelicher Sohn des Grafen Ramnulf II. von Poitou. Obwohl er die Nachfolge seines Vaters in Poitiers antreten konnte musste er 892 vor dem Grafen Adâ©mar fliehen, der mit der Unterstâºtzung Kâânig Odos das Poitou besetzt hatte. Ebalus fand Zuflucht bei Wilhelm dem Frommen, dem ersten Fâºrsten Aquitaniens. Mit seiner Hilfe eroberte er 902 Poitiers in Abwesenheit Adâ©mars zurâºck. Von Kâânig Karl III. dem Einfâ§ltigen, mit dem Ebalus aufgewachsen war, wurde er sofort als legitimer Graf des Poitou anerkannt. Ebalus âºbergab die Abtei Saint-Maixent an Savary, Vizegraf von Thouars, der ihn unterstâºtzt hatte. Er grâºndete weitere Vizegrafschaften in Aulnay und Melle, und lââste die Vizegrafschaft von Poitiers nach dem Tod des Amtsinhabers Maingaud 925 auf.
Ebalus eroberte 904 das Limousin und war 911 einer der Heerfâºhrer die in der Nâ§he von Chartres die Normannen unter Rollo schlugen, was darauf zum Vertrag von Saint-Clair-sur-Epte fâºhrte.
In den Jahren 926 und 927 starben nacheinander die aquitanischen Herz√∂ge Wilhelm II. und Acfred. Von letzteren wurde Ebalus als Erbe seines Hausguts eingesetzt, dass sich um das Berry, Auvergne und des Velay konzentrierte. Damit sicherte Ebalus sich und seinen Nachkommen die unumstrittene Position des ersten Fâºrsten Aquitaniens. Obwohl zu vermuten ist, dass er damit auch die Herzogswâºrde beanspruchte, wird Ebalus in zeitgenââssischen Urkunden ausschlieâülich als Comes tituliert.
Wâ§hrend des Machtkampfes zwischen den Karolingern und Robertinern 922 stand Ebalus auf der Seite Kâânig Karls III. des Einfâ§ltigen gegen Markgraf Robert. Aus diesem Grund verweigerte er 923 auch dem neuen Kâânig Rudolf, aus der Partei der Robertiner, die Anerkennung. Dieser versuchte darauf die Macht Ebalus·Äô zu beschneiden. Er nahm ihm 932 das Berry weg, âºbertrug die Auvergne an den Grafen Raimund Pons von Toulouse dem er auch den aquitanischen Herzogstitel verlieh. Weiterhin machte der Kâânig die La Marche, das von den Herren von Charroux abhâ§ngig war, zur eigenstâ§ndigen Grafschaft.
Ebalus war im Oktober 891 noch unverheiratet. Spâ§ter ehelichte er erst Aremburga; im Februar 911 war er mit Emilienne verheiratet. âúber beide Frauen ist nichts weiter bekannt. Er hatte zwei Sââhne, beide wohl von Aremburga:
* Wilhelm Werghaupt (·Äâ 3. April 963), Graf von Poitou (Wilhelm I.) und Herzog von Aquitanien (Wilhelm III.)
* Ebalus (·Äâ 26. Februar 977), von 844 bis 963 Bischof von Limoges
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Vorgâ§nger Amt Nachfolger
Ramnulf II. Graf von Poitou
890·Äì892 Adâ©mar
Adâ©mar Graf von Poitou
902·Äì935 Wilhelm Werghaupt
Acfred Herzog von Aquitanien
927·Äì935
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William III (915·Äì3 April 963), called Towhead (French: Tââ¢te d'â©toupe, Latin: Caput Stupe) from the colour of his hair, was the "Count of the Duchy of Aquitaine" from 959 and Duke of Aquitaine from 962 to his death. He was also the Count of Poitou (as William I) from 935 and Count of Auvergne from 950. The primary sources for his reign are Ademar of Chabannes, Dudo of Saint-Quentin, and William of Jumiâ®ges.
William was son of Ebalus Manzer and Emilienne. He was born in Poitiers. He claimed the Duchy of Aquitaine from his father's death, but the royal chancery did not recognise his ducal title until the year before his own death.
Shortly aftered the death of King Rudolph in 936, he was constrained to forfeit some land to Hugh the Great by Louis IV. He did it with grace, but his relationship with Hugh thenceforward deteriorated. In 950, Hugh was reconciled with Louis and granted the duchies of Burgundy and Aquitaine. He tried to conquer Aquitaine with Louis's assistance, but William defeated them. Lothair, Louis's successor, feared the power of William. In August 955 he joined Hugh to besiege Poitiers, which resisted successfully. William, however, gave battle and was routed.
After the death of Hugh, his son Hugh Capet was named duke of Aquitaine, but he never tried to take up his fief, as William reconciled with Lothair.
He was given the abbey of Saint-Hilaire-le-Grand, which remained in his house after his death. He also built a library in the palace of Poitiers.
Marriage and issue
He married Gerloc (renamed Adele), daughter of Rollo of Normandy. They had at least two children:
Adelaide, who married Hugh Capet
William, his successor in Aquitaine. He abdicated to the abbey of Saint-Cyprien in Poitiers and left the government to his son.
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BIOGRAPHY: REF Theroff. Count of Auvergne. Illegitimate son of Rainulf II. Count of Limosin 928-932.
Ebalus or Ebles Manzer or Manser (c. 870 ·Äì 935) was Count of Poitou and Duke of Aquitaine on two occasions: from 890 to 892 and from 902 (Poitou) and 927 (Aquitaine) to his death.
Ebles was an illegitimate son of Ranulf II of Aquitaine. The meaning of his surname is disputed. Manzer is a Germanic habitational name, but also a Germanic personal name formed from magin, meaning "strength" or "might" (cf magnus). It may also be a corruption of the Hebrew mamzer, meaning bastard, hence the appellation sometimes seen, Ebles the Bastard, and his supposed Jewish mother. The same surname was used by another Prince from Occitania, Arnaud Manzer, Count of Angoulême (born 952-died 988/92) who also was a bastard. No any other European Prince had name Manzer. This fact makes problematic the speculation about Germanic origin of the Ebles' surname.
Ebles succeeded his father Ranulf in 890, but was driven out in 892 by Aymar, who was supported by Eudes of France. Ebles gained the backing of William the Pious, Count of Auvergne, who placed Aquitaine under his own authority in 893.
In 902, Ebles launched the reconquest of his county with an army lent by his distant relative William the Pious. He took Poitiers while Aymar was away and established control of the county. He was invested as count by Charles III, with whom Ebles had been raised.
The comital title was the only one to which he ever had legitimate investiture. Ebles allotted the abbey of Saint-Maixent to Savary, Viscount of Thouars, who had been his constant supporter. He restructured Poitou by creating new viscounties in Aulnay and Melle and dissolved the title and position of Viscount of Poitou upon the death of its holder, Maingaud, in 925.
In 904, he conquered the Limousin. In 911, Ebles was in Chartres with an army to oppose Rollo, the Viking leader.
In 927, William the Younger, successor of William the Pious, and then his successor, his brother Acfred, died in the space of one year. Acfred had made Ebles his heir; Ebles thus found himself Duke of Aquitaine, Count of Berry, Auvergne, and Velay.
In 929, King Rudolph started trying to reduce the power of Ebles. He withdrew from him access to Berry, then in 932 he transferred the titles of Duke of Aquitaine and Count of Auvergne to the Count of Toulouse, Raymond Pons. Moreover, the territory of La Marche, which was under the control of the lord of Charroux, vassal of Ebles, was transformed into an independent county.
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Ebalus or Ebles Manzer or Manser (c. 870 ·Äì 935) was Count of Poitou and Duke of Aquitaine on two occasions: from 890 to 892 and from 902 (Poitou) and 927 (Aquitaine) to his death. Ebles was an illegitimate son of Ranulf II of Aquitaine. "Manzer" or "Mamzer" was a shameful designation that meant bastard, son of a prostitute, or illegitimate. It appears that Ebles did not mind his name, and his "illegitimacy became a part of his style." Upon the death of his father (who was poisoned), Ebles assumed his father·Äôs mantle and acquired the role of Count of Poitou. But Ebles could not hold onto the title for long. Aymar, a descendant of one of Ramnulf II·Äôs predecessedors, challenged Ebles right to rule, as Ebles was merely a bastard son. In 892, Aymar, who was supported by Eudes of France, overthrew Ebles, and Ebles fled to the safety of his father·Äôs allies, Count Gerald of Aurillac and William the Pious, count of Avergne and Duke of Aquitaine.[3] William the Pious had taken Ebles under his care and assured the boy·Äôs education after the death of Ebles·Äô father. In 902, Ebles, with the assistance of William the Pious, a distant relative, conquered Poitiers while Aymar was away, and reestablished himself in his former position. Charles III, who knew Ebles as a childhood companion, then formally invested Ebles with the title, Count of Poitou. Ebles would hold this title until this death. The comital title was the only one to which he ever had legitimate investiture. Ebles allotted the abbey of Saint-Maixent to Savary, Viscount of Thouars, who had been his constant supporter. He restructured Poitou by creating new viscounties in Aulnay and Melle[disambiguation needed] and dissolved the title and position of Viscount of Poitou upon the death of its holder, Maingaud, in 925. In 904, he conquered the Limousin. In 911 he, with two other French commanders were aligned in opposition to Rollo, a Danish invader who had plundered the countryside. Ebles and the other two commanders intended to lead their armies in defense of the city of Chartes. Part of Rollo·Äôs army camped on a hill (Mont-Levis) north of the city, while the rest were stationed on the plains outside Chartes. On Saturday, July 20, 911, the battle between the French and Danish armies commenced. "Rollo and his forces were shamefully routed, smitten, as the legend tells, with corporeal blindness. A panic assuredly fell upon the heroic commander, a species of mental infirmity discernible in his descendants: the contagious terror unnerved the host. Unpursued, they dispersed and fled without resistance." At the end of the day, 6,800 Danes lay dead on the field of battle. Ebles was somewhat slow in arriving at Chartres, so he was unable to "take his due share in the conflict." His victorious partners proudly boasted of their success, and mocked Ebles and his tardy army. To redeem his honor and quiet the ridicule, Ebles accepted a challenge to confront the remant of the Danish army that remained camped on the Mont-Levis. But instead of driving the Danes away, Ebles·Äô army was defeated soundly. "In the dark of the night, the Northmen, sounding their horns and making a terrible clamour, rushed down the mount and stormed" Ebles camp. Ebles fled and hid in a drum in a fuller·Äôs workshop. His cowardice and dishonor was derided in a popular French ballad of the Plantagenet age. When Ebles·Äô benefactor, William the Pious, died, William was succeeded as Duke of Aquitaine by William the Younger. In 927, William the Younger died, and he left his title to his brother Acfred; but Acfred did not live even a year. Acfred made Ebles his heir, and in 928 Ebles assumed the titles Duke of Aquitaine, Count of Berry, Count of Auvergne, and Velay. In 929, King Rudolph started trying to reduce the power of Ebles. He withdrew from him access to Berry, then in 932 he transferred the titles of Duke of Aquitaine and Count of Auvergne to the Count of Toulouse, Raymond Pons. Moreover, the territory of La Marche, which was under the control of the lord of Charroux, vassal of Ebles, was transformed into an independent county. Marriage and issue: Ebles' first wife was Aremburga, whom he married before 10 Oct 892. His second wife was Emilienne, whom he married in 911. When Emilienne died in 913/915, Ebles married Adele the following year. Adele has been commonly referred to as the daughter of Edward the Elder. Some sources believe that Adele was the same person as Edward's daughter, âÜlfgifu, but that the confusion equating âÜlfgifu to Adele arose from the fact that English historians did not recognize her name after it was translated into French. She has also been called Adela, Adele, Alaine, or Aliana. Ebalus had one child by Emilienne, and another one by Adele
William III of Aquitaine married Gerloc, daughter of Rollo of Normandy
Ebalus, Bishop of Limoges and Treasurer of St. Hilary of Poitiers[
Ebalus or Ebles Manzer or Manser (c. 870 ·Äì 935) was Count of Poitou and Duke of Aquitaine on two occasions: from 890 to 892 and from 902 (Poitou) and 927 (Aquitaine) to his death. Ebles was an illegitimate son of Ranulf II of Aquitaine. "Manzer" or "Mamzer" was a shameful designation that meant bastard, son of a prostitute, or illegitimate. It appears that Ebles did not mind his name, and his "illegitimacy became a part of his style." Upon the death of his father (who was poisoned), Ebles assumed his father·Äôs mantle and acquired the role of Count of Poitou. But Ebles could not hold onto the title for long. Aymar, a descendant of one of Ramnulf II·Äôs predecessedors, challenged Ebles right to rule, as Ebles was merely a bastard son. In 892, Aymar, who was supported by Eudes of France, overthrew Ebles, and Ebles fled to the safety of his father·Äôs allies, Count Gerald of Aurillac and William the Pious, count of Avergne and Duke of Aquitaine.[3] William the Pious had taken Ebles under his care and assured the boy·Äôs education after the death of Ebles·Äô father. In 902, Ebles, with the assistance of William the Pious, a distant relative, conquered Poitiers while Aymar was away, and reestablished himself in his former position. Charles III, who knew Ebles as a childhood companion, then formally invested Ebles with the title, Count of Poitou. Ebles would hold this title until this death. The comital title was the only one to which he ever had legitimate investiture. Ebles allotted the abbey of Saint-Maixent to Savary, Viscount of Thouars, who had been his constant supporter. He restructured Poitou by creating new viscounties in Aulnay and Melle[disambiguation needed] and dissolved the title and position of Viscount of Poitou upon the death of its holder, Maingaud, in 925. In 904, he conquered the Limousin. In 911 he, with two other French commanders were aligned in opposition to Rollo, a Danish invader who had plundered the countryside. Ebles and the other two commanders intended to lead their armies in defense of the city of Chartes. Part of Rollo·Äôs army camped on a hill (Mont-Levis) north of the city, while the rest were stationed on the plains outside Chartes. On Saturday, July 20, 911, the battle between the French and Danish armies commenced. "Rollo and his forces were shamefully routed, smitten, as the legend tells, with corporeal blindness. A panic assuredly fell upon the heroic commander, a species of mental infirmity discernible in his descendants: the contagious terror unnerved the host. Unpursued, they dispersed and fled without resistance." At the end of the day, 6,800 Danes lay dead on the field of battle. Ebles was somewhat slow in arriving at Chartres, so he was unable to "take his due share in the conflict." His victorious partners proudly boasted of their success, and mocked Ebles and his tardy army. To redeem his honor and quiet the ridicule, Ebles accepted a challenge to confront the remant of the Danish army that remained camped on the Mont-Levis. But instead of driving the Danes away, Ebles·Äô army was defeated soundly. "In the dark of the night, the Northmen, sounding their horns and making a terrible clamour, rushed down the mount and stormed" Ebles camp. Ebles fled and hid in a drum in a fuller·Äôs workshop. His cowardice and dishonor was derided in a popular French ballad of the Plantagenet age. When Ebles·Äô benefactor, William the Pious, died, William was succeeded as Duke of Aquitaine by William the Younger. In 927, William the Younger died, and he left his title to his brother Acfred; but Acfred did not live even a year. Acfred made Ebles his heir, and in 928 Ebles assumed the titles Duke of Aquitaine, Count of Berry, Count of Auvergne, and Velay. In 929, King Rudolph started trying to reduce the power of Ebles. He withdrew from him access to Berry, then in 932 he transferred the titles of Duke of Aquitaine and Count of Auvergne to the Count of Toulouse, Raymond Pons. Moreover, the territory of La Marche, which was under the control of the lord of Charroux, vassal of Ebles, was transformed into an independent county. Marriage and issue: Ebles' first wife was Aremburga, whom he married before 10 Oct 892. His second wife was Emilienne, whom he married in 911. When Emilienne died in 913/915, Ebles married Adele the following year. Adele has been commonly referred to as the daughter of Edward the Elder. Some sources believe that Adele was the same person as Edward's daughter, âÜlfgifu, but that the confusion equating âÜlfgifu to Adele arose from the fact that English historians did not recognize her name after it was translated into French. She has also been called Adela, Adele, Alaine, or Aliana. Ebalus had one child by Emilienne, and another one by Adele William III of Aquitaine married Gerloc, daughter of Rollo of Normandy Ebalus, Bishop of Limoges and Treasurer of St. Hilary of Poitiers[
Ebalus, Duke of Aquitaine Spouse(s) Aremburga Emilienne Adele Noble family House of Poitiers Father Ranulf II of Aquitaine Mother ? Born c. 870 Died 935 Ebalus or Ebles Manzer or Manser (c. 870 ·Äì 935) was Count of Poitou and Duke of Aquitaine on two occasions: from 890 to 892 and from 902 (Poitou) and 927 (Aquitaine) to his death. Ebles was an illegitimate son of Ranulf II of Aquitaine. "Manzer" or "Mamzer" is a Jewish word that meant bastard, son of a Christian man and Jewish woman. 'Mamzer." It appears that Ebles did not mind his name, and his "illegitimacy became a part of his style."[1]
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Ebles' first wife was Aremburga, whom he married before 10 Oct 892.[3] His second wife was Emilienne, whom he married in 911. When Emilienne died in 913/915, Ebles married Adele the following year.[8] Adele has been commonly referred to as the daughter of Edward the Elder.[9] Some sources believe that Adele was the same person as Edward's daughter, âÜlfgifu, but that the confusion equating âÜlfgifu to Adele arose from the fact that English historians did not recognize her name after it was translated into French. She has also been called Adela, Adele, Alaine, or Aliana.
Ebalus had one child by Emilienne, and another one by Adele :[10] William III of Aquitaine married Gerloc, daughter of Rollo of Normandy Ebalus, Bishop of Limoges and Treasurer of St. Hilary of Poitiers[11]
Ebalus or Ebles Manzer or Manser (c. 870 ·Äì 935) was Count of Poitou and Duke of Aquitaine on two occasions: from 890 to 892 and from 902 (Poitou) and 927 (Aquitaine) to his death.
Ebles was an illegitimate son of Ranulf II of Aquitaine. "Manzer" or "Mamzer" is a Jewish word that meant bastard, son of a Christian man and Jewish woman." It appears that Ebles did not mind his name, and his "illegitimacy became a part of his style."[1]
Upon the death of his father (who was poisoned), Ebles assumed his father·Äôs mantle and acquired the role of Count of Poitou. But Ebles could not hold onto the title for long. Aymar, a descendant of one of Ramnulf II·Äôs predecessedors, challenged Ebles right to rule, as Ebles was merely a bastard son. In 892, Aymar, who was supported by Eudes of France, overthrew Ebles, and Ebles fled to the safety of his father·Äôs allies, Count Gerald of Aurillac and William the Pious, count of Avergne and Duke of Aquitaine.[2] William the Pious had taken Ebles under his care and assured the boy·Äôs education after the death of Ebles·Äô father.[3]
In 902, Ebles, with the assistance of William the Pious, a distant relative, conquered Poitiers while Aymar was away, and reestablished himself in his former position. Charles III, who knew Ebles as a childhood companion, then formally invested Ebles with the title, Count of Poitou. Ebles would hold this title until this death.[3]
The comital title was the only one to which he ever had legitimate investiture. Ebles allotted the abbey of Saint-Maixent to Savary, Viscount of Thouars, who had been his constant supporter. He restructured Poitou by creating new viscounties in Aulnay and Melle[disambiguation needed] and dissolved the title and position of Viscount of Poitou upon the death of its holder, Maingaud, in 925.
In 904, he conquered the Limousin.
In 911 he, with two other French commanders were aligned in opposition to Rollo, a Norwegian invader who had plundered the countryside. Ebles and the other two commanders intended to lead their armies in defense of the city of Chartes. Part of Rollo·Äôs army camped on a hill (Mont-Levis) north of the city, while the rest were stationed on the plains outside Chartes.[4]
On Saturday, July 20, 911, the battle between the French and Danish armies commenced. "Rollo and his forces were shamefully routed, smitten, as the legend tells, with corporeal blindness. A panic assuredly fell upon the heroic commander, a species of mental infirmity discernible in his descendants: the contagious terror unnerved the host. Unpursued, they dispersed and fled without resistance." At the end of the day, 6,800 Danes lay dead on the field of battle.[5]
Ebles was somewhat slow in arriving at Chartres, so he was unable to "take his due share in the conflict." His victorious partners proudly boasted of their success, and mocked Ebles and his tardy army. To redeem his honor and quiet the ridicule, Ebles accepted a challenge to confront the remant of the Danish army that remained camped on the Mont-Levis. But instead of driving the Danes away, Ebles·Äô army was defeated soundly. "In the dark of the night, the Northmen, sounding their horns and making a terrible clamour, rushed down the mount and stormed" Ebles camp. Ebles fled and hid in a drum in a fuller·Äôs workshop. His cowardice and dishonor was derided in a popular French ballad of the Plantagenet age.[6]
When Ebles·Äô benefactor, William the Pious, died, William was succeeded as Duke of Aquitaine by William the Younger. In 927, William the Younger died, and he left his title to his brother Acfred; but Acfred did not live even a year. Acfred made Ebles his heir, and in 928 Ebles assumed the titles Duke of Aquitaine, Count of Berry, Count of Auvergne, and Velay[7]
In 929, King Rudolph started trying to reduce the power of Ebles. He withdrew from him access to Berry, then in 932 he transferred the titles of Duke of Aquitaine and Count of Auvergne to the Count of Toulouse, Raymond Pons. Moreover, the territory of La Marche, which was under the control of the lord of Charroux, vassal of Ebles, was transformed into an independent county.
Marriage and issue[edit]
Ebles' first wife was Aremburga, whom he married before 10 Oct 892.[3] His second wife was Emilienne, whom he married in 911. When Emilienne died in 913/915, Ebles married Adele the following year.[8] Adele has been commonly referred to as the daughter of Edward the Elder.[9] Some sources believe that Adele was the same person as Edward's daughter, âÜlfgifu, but that the confusion equating âÜlfgifu to Adele arose from the fact that English historians did not recognize her name after it was translated into French. She has also been called Adela, Adele, Alaine, or Aliana.
Ebalus had one child by Emilienne, and another one by Adele :[10] William III of Aquitaine married Gerloc, daughter of Rollo of Normandy Ebalus, Bishop of Limoges and Treasurer of St. Hilary of Poitiers[1
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From the Foundation for Medieval Genealogy page on Aquitaine:
http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/AQUITAINE.htm
EBLE "Mancer", illegitimate son of RAINULF II Comte de Poitou, Duke of Aquitaine & his mistress --- ([870/75]-[932/34]).¬â The Chronicle of Adâ©mar de Chabannes names "Eblum" as son of "Ramnulfus·Ä¶comes Pictaviensis", another manuscript specifying that he was born "ex concubina"[325].¬â The Chronicle of Saint-Maxence names "Ramnulfus comes·Ä¶Pictavensis·Ä¶filium Eblum"[326].¬â The Chronico Richardi Pictavensis names "Ramnulfus Comes Pictavis filium·Ä¶Eblum"[327].¬â He succeeded his father in 890 as EBLE "Mancer" Comte de Poitou, his illegitimacy apparently presenting no obstacle to his succession, although he was opposed by Adâ©mar, son of Comte Emenon.¬â Comte Eble found refuge first with Gâ©raud Seigneur d'Aurillac, later with Guillaume "le Pieux" Comte d'Auvergne, his uncles Gauzbert and Eble assuming the defence of his rights to Poitou until their deaths in late 892[328].¬â Poitou was captured by the forces of Eudes King of France, who gave the county to his brother Robert, who was expelled by Comte Aimar[329].¬â Comte Eble expelled Comte Aimar in 902 and was restored as Comte de Poitou.¬â He was recognised as Comte du Limousin in 904[330].¬â Guillaume de Jumiâ®ges records that Rollo invaded ·ÄúLeugas...montis·Äù and that "Ebulus...Pictavensis comes" was unable to defeat him[331].¬â Acfred Duke of Aquitaine appointed Eble as his heir, who succeeded as Duke of Aquitaine and Comte d'Auvergne in 927[332].¬â Raoul King of France transferred Aquitaine to Raymond Comte de Toulouse in 932[333].¬â "Ebolus·Ä¶Pictavorum·Ä¶comes" donated "in pago Alninse, Ingolinis, in villa·Ä¶Verzeria" to St Cyprien, Poitiers by charter dated Jan 934 ("anno XI regnante Radulfo rege")[334].¬â On the other hand, a charter dated 932 was confirmed by "Guillelmus comes·Ä¶post mortem patris sui"[335].¬â It is assumed that one of the documents is incorrectly dated.¬â
[m firstly] (betrothed before 10 Oct 892) AREMBURGE, daughter of ---.¬â She is named as the betrothed of Eble in his charter dated 10 Oct 890[336]: "Ebolus [·Ä¶comite] iuuenili adhuc â¶tate florens" donated "alodum·Ä¶Aleriacum in pago Briocinse in vicaria Sauiniacinse super fluvium Carantum·Ä¶Ciliacum·Ä¶Curcolmum" to Tours Saint-Martin, for the souls of "genitoris mei Ramnulfi·Ä¶ac avunculorum meorum Gauzberti et Eboli", and naming "sponsa eius·Ä¶Aremburgis·Ä¶in futuris nuptiis", by charter dated 10 Oct 892[337].¬â This document is redated to 10 Oct 890 by Mabille[338].¬â No document has been found which confirms that the marriage was ever finalised.¬â
m [secondly] (before Feb 911) EMILLANE, daughter of --- (-after [932/36]).¬â "Emmena femina" granted property "allodus situs in pago Pictavo in vicaria Salvinse in villa·Ä¶Baidonnus" to "domnum Ebolum comitem et·Ä¶uxorem eius Emillane" by charter dated Feb 911[339].¬â Ademar names "Adelam, filiam Rosi Rotomagensis" as wife of Eble and mother of "Willelmum Caputstupâ¶", but this is chronologically impossible, the individual being confused no doubt with the wife of Comte Guillaume I[340].¬â The Chronico Comitum Pictaviⶠnames "Hadelliam·Ä¶Adestani regis Angliⶠfiliam" as wife of "Ebles Dux Aquitaniⶠet PictaviⶠComes"[341], but this also appears impossible.¬â "Willelmi comitis, Alaine comitisse que fuit monacha" subscribed the donation by "Rotbertus clericus" of property to St Cyprien, Poitiers by charter dated [932/36][342], it being assumed that "Alaine" was the mother of Comte Guillaume I although no relationship is stated in the document.¬â
Comte Ebalus & his [second] wife had two children:
1.¬â ¬â ¬â ¬â ¬â ¬â ¬â ¬â GUILLAUME de Poitou ([900]-Poitiers 3 Apr 963).¬â The Chronicle of Adâ©mar de Chabannes names "Willelmus·Ä¶cognomento Caput stupe" as one of the two sons of "Eblo duce", specifying that he was "Arvernis, Vallatis, Lemovice et Pictavis comes·Ä¶dux Aquitaniâ¶"[343].¬â He succeeded his father as GUILLAUME I ·ÄúTââ¢te d'Etoupes/Capite-stup⶷Äù Comte de Poitou.¬â He succeeded in 959 as GUILLAUME III Duke of Aquitaine.¬â
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2.¬â ¬â ¬â ¬â ¬â ¬â ¬â ¬â EBLE de Poitou (-Abbaye de Saint-Michel-en-Lherm 26 Feb 977[344]).¬â The Chronicle of Adâ©mar de Chabannes names "Eblus·Ä¶pontifex Lemovicâ¶" as one of the two sons of "Eblo duce", specifying that he was abbot of "Sancti Hilarii ac Sancti Maxencii"[345].¬â Louis IV King of France confirmed the property of Saint-Hilaire de Poitiers, in the presence of "Guillelmus comes et marchio et frater eius Ebolus atque Rotgarius comes", by charter dated 5 Jan 942[346].¬â "Guillelmus·Ä¶Aquitanici ducatus comes" was present in a property transaction recorded by charter dated Jul 959 which also names "fratre nostro Ebulone episcopo abbate"[347].¬â The restoration by "Eblo episcopus Lemovice civitatis et comes Pictavorum" of the abbey of Saint-Maixent with the consent of "fratre eius Willelmo duce Aquitanorum" is recorded in a charter dated [960][348].¬â "Ebulus·Ä¶Lemovicensium sedis episcopus" donated property including "alodum·Ä¶meum Baidon" to Saint-Maixent "pro remedio anim⶷Ķfratris mei Guillelmi, sive pro consolatione nepotism mei equivoci Guillelmi Aquitanorum ducis" by charter dated Jan [965/66][349].¬â Richard suggests that this charter shows that the mother of Ebalus must have been Emillane, but his reasoning appears to be faulty.¬â He states firstly that Ebalus declares in the document that Baidon belonged to him "ââ titre hâ©râ©ditaire" (although the precise wording "allodium·Ä¶meum" does not convey this meaning) and secondly that this property must have come to him from his mother who, he says, acquired the property in 911 (although she acquired the property jointly with her husband, as shown by the charter quoted above)[350].¬â Abbâ© de Saint Maixent 936.¬â Thesaurius of Saint-Hilaire-de-Poitiers 937/77.¬â Bishop of Limoges 944.¬â He resigned in 963 and became Abbâ© de Saint-Michel-en-Lherm.¬â He was captured by Hâ©lie Comte de Pâ©rigord and blinded[351].¬â
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