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Household of Juliana Vernon (de Vescy)

She is married to Richard de Vernon.

They got married.


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her mother ·Üí John Merrit Wooldridge
her father ·Üí Merritt Wooldridge
his father ·Üí Chesley Wooldridge
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her mother ·Üí Isabel Haute
her mother ·Üí Joan Frowick
her mother ·Üí Richard Stourton
her father ·Üí Sir John Stourton, Kt., of Stourton & Preston
his father ·Üí John de Stourton
his father ·Üí Jane Stourton
his mother ·Üí Juliana Vernon
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Juliana Vernon (de Vescy)
Gender:
Female
Birth:
circa 1253
Alnwick Castle, Northumberland, England
Death:
England
Immediate Family:
Daughter of Sir William de Vescy, Lord of Alnwick and Agnes Vescy, the elder
Wife of Sir Richard de Vernon, of Nether Haddon
Mother of Richard de Vernon, II and Jane Stourton
Sister of John de Vesci, Lord of Alnwick; William de Vesci and Agnes de Buckton
Half sister of Sarah Ufford

Juliana, daughter of William de Vescy, of Alnwick, Northumberland, and Malton, Yorks, by Agnes, daughter of William de Ferrers, 5th Earl of Derby of the 1138 creation, thus acquiring Arleston, Derbys. [Burke's Peerage]
Note: Ancestral Roots states Richard Vernon is of Harlaston, Staffordshire & Haddon.

http://wc.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=jweber&id=I13274
WikiTree currently shows that Juliana de Vescy, granddaughter of Magna Carta Surety Baron Eustace de Vesci, was the wife of Richard de Vernon and the mother of his children.
This lineage is not recognized by Douglas Richardson, and there is no daughter Juliana listed in the Vesci section of the Medieval Lands project at http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/ENGLISHNOBILITYMEDIEVAL3T-Z.htm#_Toc389115904
However, Frederick Lewis Weis's book Ancestral Roots of Certain American Colonists, p. 68, states that Richard Vernon's wife was Juliana de Vesci. See https://books.google.com/books?id=XLqEWwa7fT8C&pg=PA68&lpg=PA68&dq=juliana+vesci+richard+vernon&source=bl&ots=pIt6REAMzL&sig=ANbFBKRbZHH6kcTFGI9X-fV94Gs&hl=en&sa=X&ei=eW3AVNryCIj9oQSqiIGgAw&ved=0CC4Q6AEwAg#v=onepage&q=juliana%20vesci%20richard%20vernon&f=false
This book cites two sources: Complete Peerage, vol. 3, p. 45 (apparently a defective citation; I've been told that the Vernon family is mentioned on pages 4 and 5); and the Victoria County History of Buckinghamshire, vol. 4, p. 90 at http://www.british-history.ac.uk/vch/bucks/vol4/pp89-91 , which makes no mention of a Juliana Vesci.
Furthermore, it appears that Complete Peerage does NOT support this alleged Vesci/Vernon connection, per this gen-medieval forum post from 2001: https://groups.google.com/forum/#!searchin/soc.genealogy.medieval/juliana$20vesci/soc.genealogy.medieval/368MqUvT_c4/fxqLROhp9wkJ
I couldn't find any reference in Vol 3 of the Complete Peerage in either the 1st or 2nd editions to the Vesci or Vescy families.
However in Vol 12, pt 2, there are articles about the Vesci or Vescy Barons, and as per the link to the gen-medieval forum the William de Vesci (Juliana's brother) is the last legitimate Lord Vesci, (his son John having died before him, without issue). His illegitimate son also called William, does become Lord Vesci but he also dies childless.
The next heir to the Vescy estates (this is on p. 285, note b) is Gilbert de Aton, a descendant of Margery de Vesci (on Wikitree she is listed as Margaret de Vesci http://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Vesci-3 ) who (Gilbert) established his claim to the estates in 1316 and 1317.
If Juliana had existed then surely her issue would have been the closest heirs or would have at least contested the claim, but there is no mention of Juliana or the Vernons.

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Ancestors (and descendant) of Juliana Vernon (de Vescy)

Juliana Vernon (de Vescy)
± 1253-????


Richard de Vernon
± 1253-± 1330

Joan (Jane) de Stourton (de Vernon)
± 1298-± 1374

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