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Personal data Agnes de Paganell (Paynel of Carlton)(2nd wife)
- She was born about 1076 in Barnstaple, Devon, England or St. Clair-sur-Elle, Normandie, West Francia (now France).
- Alternative: She was born in the year 1080 in Warwickshire, England.
- She died in the year 1170 in Skelton, Middleham, Yorkshire, England.
- Alternative: She died about 1170 in York, England.
- She is buried in Scotland.
- A child of William Paynell (Paynel) and Bâ©atrix FitzAnsculf de Picquigny
- This information was last updated on November 17, 2020.
Household of Agnes de Paganell (Paynel of Carlton)(2nd wife)
She is married to Robert de Brus de Bruce.
They got married.
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Notes about Agnes de Paganell (Paynel of Carlton)(2nd wife)
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Agnâ®s Paynel of Carlton is your 24th great grandmother.
You‰ ᆒ Henry "Toad" Welborn
your father ·Üí Henry Marvin Welborn, Sr.
his father ·Üí Calhoun H. Welborn
his father ·Üí Sarah Elizabeth Welborn
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her father ·Üí William Dykes, Sr.
his father ·Üí George Dykes, Sr.
his father ·Üí Edward George Dykes
his father ·Üí Edward Dykes
his father ·Üí Thomas Dykes
his father ·Üí Edward Dykes
his father ·Üí Thomas Dykes
his father ·Üí Leonard Dykes
his father ·Üí Lord of Whitehall Thomas Dykes
his father ·Üí Christina Dykes
his mother ·Üí Richard Salkeld
her father ·Üí Joan Salkeld
his mother ·Üí William de Stapleton, II
her father ·Üí William de Stapleton
his father ·Üí Sibyl Stapleton
his mother ·Üí Ladereyne de Brus
her mother ·Üí Peter ll de Brus, of Skelton and Danby
her father ·Üí Peter de Brus, I
his father ·Üí Adam de Brus, Lord of Skelton
his father ·Üí Adam de Brus, I, Lord of Skelton, Lord of Cleveland
his father ·Üí Agnâ®s Paynel of Carlton
his mother
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Agnâ®s de Paganell
Gender:
Female
Birth:
circa 1076
Barnstaple, Devon, England or St. Clair-sur-Elle, Normandie, West Francia (now France)
Death:
1170 (89-99)
Skelton, Middleham, Yorkshire, England
Place of Burial:
Scotland
Immediate Family:
Daughter of Fulk Paynel, Lord of Dudley and Bâ©atrix FitzAnsculf de Picquigny, Dame of Dudley Castle
Wife of Robert de Brus 1st Lord of Skelton and 1st Lord of Annandale
Mother of Agatha Brus of Skelton and Adam de Brus, I, Lord of Skelton, Lord of Cleveland
Sister of Ralph Paynell, Lord Dudley and William Paynel, Lord of Bampton
http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/enguntps.htm#WilliamPaynelDraxdied1147
FULK Paynell, son of [WILLIAM Paynell of Moâªtiers-Hubert & his wife ---] (-after 1129).¬â Ellis names "William Paynel of Moâªtiers-Hubert and Fulk Paynel of Dudley" as the sons of William Paynell Seigneur de Moâªtiers-Hubert, without citing the primary sources on which he bases his supposition[142].¬â Domesday Descendants does not specify his parentage[143].¬â The 1130 Pipe Roll records "Fulcoius Paenell" paying half a fine relating to his suit against "Rogerum Parlarium" in Staffordshire[144].¬â ·ÄúGervasius Paganellus·Äù donated property to Tykford Priory, with the consent of ·Äúuxoris meⶠIsabellⶠcomitissⶠde Norhamton·Äù, by charter dated 1187 which names ·ÄúFulcodius Paganellus avus meus et Radulfus Paganellus pater meus·Äù[145].¬â
m [BEATRIX, daughter of WILLIAM FitzAnsculf of Dudley & his wife ---].‰ Domesday Descendants states that Fulk Paynell "acquired the fief of William fitz Ansculf de Picquigny lord of Dudley, Worcestershire, probably by marriage to Williamမs heiress (?daughter)"[146].‰ Ellis is more definite, naming "Beatrix, d. and heiress of Will. fitz Ansculph, of Dudley" as the wife of Fulk Paynell, without citing the primary sources on which he bases his supposition[147].‰ Grazebrook comments that "it hasဦbeen suggested, and I think with great probability" that Fulk Paynell acquired the lordship of Dudley "by marriage with Fitz Ansculphမs heiress"[148].‰ This last quote indicates that the connection is speculative and is not based on any primary source.‰ Until more information comes to light, this supposed wife of Fulk is shown in square brackets.‰
Fulk & his wife had [two] children:‰
1.¬â ¬â ¬â ¬â ¬â ¬â ¬â ¬â RALPH Paynell (-before [1160]).¬â ["·Ä¶Rad Paganell·Ä¶" witnessed the charter dated [Jul 1141/Dec 1142] under which Empress Matilda permitted "Milon com Heref" to hold the castle and honour of Abergavenny, from "Bri fil com et Matild de Walengeford uxor sue"[149].¬â "·Ä¶Radulfo Paganello·Ä¶" witnessed the charter dated to [1142/46] under which "M. imperatrix, Henrici regis filia et Anglorum domina et Henricus filius comitis Andegavie" confirmed the rights of "Unfrido de Buhun" in the lands he held on the death of her father[150].¬â It is not known whether these charters refer to Ralph son of Fulk Paynell.]¬â ·ÄúGervasius Paganellus·Äù donated property to Tykford Priory, with the consent of ·Äúuxoris meⶠIsabellⶠcomitissⶠde Norhamton·Äù, by charter dated 1187 which names ·ÄúFulcodius Paganellus avus meus et Radulfus Paganellus pater meus·Äù[151].¬â m ---.¬â The name of Ralph·Äôs wife is not known.¬â Ralph & his wife had two children:¬â
a)¬â ¬â ¬â ¬â ¬â ¬â ¬â ¬â GERVASE Paynell (-before Sep 1194).¬â ·ÄúG. Painel·Äù, considering the proposal of ·ÄúRadulfi Painel patris mei·Äù, founded Dudley priory, for the salvation of ·ÄúIsabellⶠuxoris meⶠet Roberti filii mei·Äù, by undated charter (dated by Dugdale to "before 1161"), witnessed by "·Ä¶Radulpho de Sumeri·Ä¶"[152].¬â Military fee certifications in the Red Book of the Exchequer, in 1166, record the knights fees held from "Gervasius Paganellus" in Staffordshire[153].¬â The Red Book of the Exchequer refers to "Gervasius Paganellus i m" in Staffordshire in [1167/68][154].¬â The Red Book of the Exchequer records enfeoffments in the duchy of Normandy in [1172], "Gervasius Paganellus" with one knight "de baillia de Basseis" and four knights in his own service[155].¬â ·ÄúGervasius Paganellus·Äù donated property to Tykford Priory, with the consent of ·Äúuxoris meⶠIsabellⶠcomitissⶠde Norhamton·Äù, by charter dated 1187 which names ·ÄúFulcodius Paganellus avus meus et Radulfus Paganellus pater meus·Äù, witnessed by ·ÄúSimone comite Northamptoniâ¶, Isabella comitissa matre eius·Ä¶Fulcone Paganello, Wilielmo fratre eius·Ä¶Wilielmo Paganello et Bernardo filio eius·Ä¶·Äù[156].¬â ¬â Baron of Dudley, Worcestershire.¬â The Red Book of the Exchequer, listing scutage payments in [1190/91], records "Gervasius Paganellus" paying "lxxix s ii d" in Buckinghamshire, Bedfordshire and "xxv l, i milites" in Staffordshire[157].¬â ·ÄúFulcodius Paganellus·Äù donated property to Tykford Priory by undated charter, witnessed by ·ÄúGervasius Paganellus et uxor eius comitissa Isabella et Robertus Paganellus eorum filius, et Willielmus Paganellus prâ¶dicti Fulcodii frater·Ä¶·Äù[158].¬â ¬â The Red Book of the Exchequer, listing scutage payments in [1194/95], records "de his qui non habent capitales honores·Ä¶Gervasii Paganelli" paying "xx s" in Oxfordshire and in Buckinghamshire, Bedforshire[159].¬â m (after 1153) as her second husband, ISABELLE de Beaumont, widow of SIMON de Senlis Earl of Huntingdon, daughter of ROBERT de Beaumont Earl of Leicester & his wife Amicie de Gaâ´l .¬â Robert of Torigny refers to the wife of "Symone comite Huntedoniâ¶" as "filia Roberti comitis Legecestriâ¶" but does not name her[160].¬â Her second marriage is confirmed by charter dated 1187 under which ·ÄúGervasius Paganellus·Äù donated property to Tykford Priory, with the consent of ·Äúuxoris meⶠIsabellⶠcomitissⶠde Norhamton·Äù, which names ·ÄúFulcodius Paganellus avus meus et Radulfus Paganellus pater meus·Äù, witnessed by ·ÄúSimone comite Northamptoniâ¶, Isabella comitissa matre eius·Äù[161].¬â ·ÄúG. Painel·Äù, considering the proposal of ·ÄúRadulfi Painel patris mei·Äù, founded Dudley priory, for the salvation of ·ÄúIsabellⶠuxoris meⶠet Roberti filii mei·Äù, by undated charter (dated by Dugdale to "before 1161")[162].¬â ·ÄúFulcodius Paganellus·Äù donated property to Tykford Priory by undated charter, witnessed by ·ÄúGervasius Paganellus et uxor eius comitissa Isabella et Robertus Paganellus eorum filius, et Willielmus Paganellus prâ¶dicti Fulcodii frater·Ä¶·Äù[163].¬â ¬â Gervase & his wife had one child:¬â
i)¬â ¬â ¬â ¬â ¬â ¬â ¬â ¬â ¬â ROBERT Paynell (-before 1194).¬â ·ÄúG. Painel·Äù, considering the proposal of ·ÄúRadulfi Painel patris mei·Äù, founded Dudley priory, for the salvation of ·ÄúIsabellⶠuxoris meⶠet Roberti filii mei·Äù, by undated charter (dated by Dugdale to "before 1161")[164].¬â ·ÄúFulcodius Paganellus·Äù donated property to Tykford Priory by undated charter, witnessed by ·ÄúGervasius Paganellus et uxor eius comitissa Isabella et Robertus Paganellus eorum filius, et Willielmus Paganellus prâ¶dicti Fulcodii frater·Ä¶·Äù[165].¬â
b)‰ ‰ ‰ ‰ ‰ ‰ ‰ ‰ HAWISE Paynell (-after 1210).‰ လHawys Paganellaဝ confirmed donations to Tykford Priory by "Johannes de Sumeri vir meus" by undated charter, witnessed by လRadulfo de Sumeri filio meoဝ[166].‰ ‰ Smyth records that Roger paid a fine to marry "Hawisia mother of Raph de Somery" in [1196/97][167].‰ လHawis Paynelဝ donated property to Tykford Priory, with the consent of လdomini mei Rogeri de Berkeleဝ, for the soul of လGervasii Paynel fratris meiဝ, by undated charter[168].‰ ‰ Hawise must have survived her son Ralph [II] de Somery, as shown by a plea in Staffordshire dated 1240 which records that certain land was inherited from "Gervasio Paenel cuidam Hawisie sorori et heredi", and passed from her to her grandsons: "ဦde iste Radulpho cuidam Willelmi et fratri et heredi, et de Willelmo cuidam Nicholaoဦfilii et heredi, et de Nicholao isti Rogero ut avunculo quia non habuit heredem de corpore sua"[169].‰ m firstly JOHN de Somery, son of --- (-[1191/92]).‰ m secondly ([1196/97]) ROGER de Berkeley, son of NICHOLAS de Berkeley & his wife Alice [de Teckenham] (-1230).‰
2.‰ ‰ ‰ ‰ ‰ ‰ ‰ ‰ [AGNES Paynell (-18 Nov ----).‰ The manuscript history of the Bruce family of Carleton records that လprimus Brus de CarletonဦRobertus de Brusဝ married လAgnetam filiam Fulconis Paynellဝ and received လmanerium de Carletonဝ from his father-in-law[170].‰ The primary source which confirms that Agnesမs father was Fulk Paynell of Staffordshire has not yet been identified.‰ လRobertus de BrusဦAgnes uxor mea, filiusque noster Adam de Brusဝ donated property to Middlesburgh priory by undated charter[171].‰ လRobertus de Brusဦet Agnes uxor mea et Adam filius nosterဝ founded Gisburne Priory, Yorkshire by undated charter[172].‰ The 1155 Pipe Roll records "Agnes de Bruisဦp filio suo"[173].‰ A charter of King Henry II, dated to [1176/86], confirmed donations to the canons of Gisburne, among which a donation by လAgnetis uxoris Roberti de Brusဝ[174].‰ The obituary of Gisburne priory records the death လXIV Kal Decဝ of "Agnetis Brus uxoris fundatoris nostri"[175].‰ m ROBERT [I] de Brus, son of --- (-11 May 1141, bur Gisburne Priory).]‰
http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/SCOTLAND.htm#Robertdied1141B
Agnes Paynel
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AGNES Paynel (-18 Nov --). The manuscript history of the Bruce family of Carleton records that လprimus Brus de CarletonဦRobertus de Brusဝ married လAgnetam filiam Fulconis Paynellဝ and received လmanerium de Carletonဝ from his father-in-law[192]. The primary source which confirms that Agnesမs father was Fulk Paynell of Staffordshire has not yet been identified. လRobertus de BrusဦAgnes uxor mea, filiusque noster Adam de Brusဝ donated property to Middlesburgh priory by undated charter[193]. လRobertus de Brusဦet Agnes uxor mea et Adam filius nosterဝ founded Gisburne Priory, Yorkshire by undated charter[194]. The 1155 Pipe Roll records "Agnes de Bruisဦp filio suo"[195]. A charter of King Henry II, dated to [1176/86], confirmed donations to the canons of Gisburne, among which a donation by လAgnetis uxoris Roberti de Brusဝ[196]. The obituary of Gisburne priory records the death လXIV Kal Decဝ of "Agnetis Brus uxoris fundatoris nostri"[197].
m ROBERT [I] de Brus, son of --- (-11 May 1141, bur Gisburne Priory).]
Wikipedia for Robert de Brus:
Robert is said to have married twice: (1) Agnes, daughter of Geoffrey Bainard, sheriff of York and (2) Agnes, daughter and heiress of Fulk de Pagnall, Lord of Carleton, Yorkshire[5][6]
There were two sons, but it is unclear by which spouse.
SOURCES:
GENEALOGY: Royal Ancestors of Magna Charta Barons; Page; 226; G929.72;
C6943ra; Denver Public Library; Genealogy
A distant cousin of Robert de Brusse 3rd.
IGI Individual Record FamilySearch·Ñ¢ International Genealogical Index v5.0
See discussion tab: Briefly I have detached Agnes from her parents because 2nd wife of Robert I de Bruce, Agnes name unknown, was thought by some to be Agnes Bainard but current thinking does not agree.
[Three possible] brothers, parents not known: 1. ROBERT [I] de Brus (-11 May 1141, bur Gysburne/Gisborough Priory). The manuscript history of the founders of Gysburne/Gisborough Priory records that ·ÄúRobertus de Bruse·Ä¶miles de Normannia·Äù became ·Äúdomini Castri de Skelton, Merkes, Uplythum, S. Westyby et Brudone, dominus de Danby, Levyngton et Parum, dominus de Kendall, et dominus Vallis Anandi⶷Äù[899]. The manuscript history of the Bruce family of Carleton records that ·Äúprimus Brus de Carleton·Ä¶Robertus de Brus·Äù came to England with William ·Äúthe Conqueror·Äù[900], although this is not possible chronologically assuming that the text refers to Robert who died in 1141. A charter of King Henry II records donations to York St Mary, including the donation of land ·Äúin Apilton·Ä¶et Hornby·Ä¶Midelton·Äù by ·ÄúRobertus de Brus·Äù[901]. Lord of Skelton. "·Ä¶Roberto de Brus·Ä¶" witnessed the charter dated to [1120] under which "David comes filius Malcolmi Regis Scottorum" founded the abbey of Selkirk, listed first witness after the members of the royal family[902]. ·ÄúRobertus de Brus·Äù confirmed donations to the canons of Bridlington by charter dated to [1120/35], witnessed by ·Äú·Ä¶Ernaldus de Perceio·Ä¶Petrus de Brus·Ä¶·Äù[903]. "Militum meorum Roberti de Brus·Ä¶" witnessed the charter dated to [1123] under which "David comes" made grants to the church of Glasgow with the consent of "Matildis uxoris mea"[904]. "David·Ä¶ Rex Scottorum" granted Annandale to "Roberto de Brus" by charter dated to [1124][905]. ·ÄúRobertus de Brus·Äù donated property to St Mary·Äôs, York by charter dated to [1125/35], witnessed by ·ÄúAda filio meo, Petro de Brus·Ä¶·Äù[906]. The 1130 Pipe Roll records "Rob de Bruis" in Yorkshire, Northumberland (three times)[907]. ·ÄúRobertus de Brus·Ä¶Agnes uxor mea, filiusque noster Adam de Brus·Äù donated property to Middlesburgh priory by undated charter[908]. ·ÄúRobertus de Brus·Ä¶et Agnes uxor mea et Adam filius noster·Äù founded Gysburne/Gisborough Priory, Yorkshire by undated charter[909]. The manuscript history of the founders of Gysburne/Gisborough Priory records that ·ÄúRobertus de Brus pater·Äù died ·Äú1141 V Id Mai·Äù and was buried ·Äúapud Gysburghe in Cleveland·Äù[910]. The obituary of Gysburne/Gisborough priory records the death ·ÄúV Id Mai·Äù of "Roberti de Brus fundator hujus domus"[911]. m [firstly] AGNES Paynell, daughter of FULK Paynell & his wife [Beatrix ---] (-18 Nov
). The manuscript history of the Bruce family of Carleton records that လprimus Brus de CarletonဦRobertus de Brusဝ married လAgnetam filiam Fulconis Paynellဝ and received လmanerium de Carletonဝ from his father-in-law[912]. လRobertus de BrusဦAgnes uxor mea, filiusque noster Adam de Brusဝ donated property to Middlesburgh priory by undated charter[913]. လRobertus de Brusဦet Agnes uxor mea et Adam filius nosterဝ founded Gysburne/Gisborough Priory, Yorkshire by undated charter[914]. A charter of King Henry II, dated to [1176/86], confirmed donations to the canons of Gysburne/Gisborough, among which a donation by လAgnetis uxoris Roberti de Brusဝ[915]. The obituary of Gysburne/Gisborough priory records the death လXIV Kal Decဝ of "Agnetis Brus uxoris fundatoris nostri"[916]. [m secondly AGNES, daughter of --- (-after 1155). The 1155 Pipe Roll records "Agnes de Bruisဦp filio suo"[917]. This entry suggests that Agnes represented her son, who must have been a minor at the time, in relation to the property for which the return was made. If that is correct, her son was presumably Robert [II] de Brus, who must have been considerably younger than his [half-]brother Adam [I], and so probably born from a different wife.] Robert de Brus & his [first] wife had one child:
a) ADAM [I] de Brus (-[20 Mar] [1143], bur Gysburne/Gisborough Priory). လRobertus de Brusဝ donated property to St Maryမs, York by charter dated to [1125/35], witnessed by လAda filio meo, Petro de Brusဦဝ[918]. - see below. Robert de Brus & his [first/second] wife had one child:
b) AGATHA de Brus . A charter dated to [1145/54] records the dowry granted by လRobertus de Brusဝ to လAgathe filie sueဝ on her marriage to လRadulfo Ribaldi filioဝ, witnessed by လဦPetro de Brus, Ernaldo de PerciဦHerveo Ribaldi filioဦဝ[919]. Although this charter is dated to after the death of Robert de Brus (died 1141), the chronology of the family of Agathaမs husband suggests that Agatha must have been his daughter and not the daughter of Robert [II] de Brus his son, the marriage having taken place many years before the charter. [920]m RALPH "Taillebois", son of RIBALD & his wife Beatrix Taillebois. Robert de Brus & his [second] wife had one child:
c) ROBERT [II] de Brus ([1135/40]-[17 Feb, 26 Aug, or 4 Dec] after [1170/90]). The manuscript history of the founders of Gysburne/Gisborough Priory names လRobertus de Bruseဦmiles de Normanniaဝ and လRoberto de Bruse filio suo junioriဝ, adding that the latter was captured during the Anglo-Scottish wars[921].
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