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Personal data Gilbert FitzRobert Giffard le Mareschal to Henry I (sui uxoris)
- He was born about 1067 in England.
- He died after 1130 in England.
- He is buried in Winterbourne Monkton, Marlborough, Wiltshire, England.
- This information was last updated on August 2, 2023.
Household of Gilbert FitzRobert Giffard le Mareschal to Henry I (sui uxoris)
He is married to Margaret de Venoix.
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Gilbert FitzRobert Giffard, le Mareschal (sui uxoris)
Gender:
Male
Birth:
between circa 1067 and 1075 Cheddar, Somerset, England
Death:
after 1130 Winterbourne Monkton, Marlborough, Wiltshire, England
Immediate Family:
Son of possible son Robert "the Norman" of Cheddar (Le Mareschal) and NN wife of
Husband of Margaret de Venoix, Heiress of the Office of le Mareschal
Father of John Marshall (FitzGilbert), I, of Rockley, le Mareschal
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his father ·Üí Joan de Stourton
his mother ·Üí Juliana Vernon
her mother ·Üí Agnes Vescy, the elder
her mother ·Üí Sibyl Marshal, Countess of Derby
her mother ·Üí William Marshal, 1st Earl of Pembroke
her father ·Üí John Marshall, I, of Rockley, le Mareschal
his father ·Üí Gilbert FitzRobert Giffard, le Mareschal (sui uxoris)
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her mother ·Üí Agnes Vescy, the elder
her mother ·Üí Sibyl Marshal, Countess of Derby
her mother ·Üí William Marshal, 1st Earl of Pembroke
her father ·Üí John Marshall, I, of Rockley, Marshal of the Horses
his father ·Üí Gilbert FitzRobert Gibard, Mareschal to Henry I
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your mother ·Üí Alice Elmyra Smith (Henley)
her mother ·Üí William Otis Henley
her father ·Üí John William Henley
his father ·Üí William W. Henley
his father ·Üí William or Thomas Alexander Henley
his father ·Üí William Alexander Henley
his father ·Üí Elizabeth Aylett Henley (Dandridge)
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her father ·Üí John Dandridge, I
his father ·Üí Anne Dandridge (Bolling)
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his father ·Üí Beatrix Bolling (Calverley)
his mother ·Üí Walter Calverley
her father ·Üí Joan Calverley (Bigod)
his mother ·Üí Sir John Bigod, Sr., Kt., of Settrington
her father ·Üí Sir Roger Bigod, Kt.
his father ·Üí Sir John Bigod, Knight
his father ·Üí Sir Ralph Bigod
his father ·Üí Maud Marshal
his mother ·Üí William Marshal, 1st Earl of Pembroke
her father ·Üí John Marshall (FitzGilbert), I, of Rockley, le Mareschal
his father ·Üí Gilbert FitzRobert Giffard, le Mareschal (sui uxoris)
his father
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her mother‰ ᆒ‰ Elizabeth Cokayne‰
her mother‰ ᆒ‰ Baroness Ida Cokayne‰
her mother‰ ᆒReynold de Grey, 2nd Baron Grey de Ruthin‰
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his father ·Üí Sir Thomas Bryan
his father ·Üí Guy de Brienne, 1st Baron of Bryan, KG
his father ·Üí Lord Brienne, Baron Chastel, Guy de Brien
his father ·Üí Sibil de Sully
his mother ·Üí Mabel de Sully
her mother ·Üí Roger de Somery, Baron Dudley
her father ·Üí Margaret le Gras
his mother ·Üí Maud FitzJohn Marshall
her mother ·Üí John Marshall (I), Marshal of The Horses
her father ·Üí Gilbert FitzRobert Gibard, Mareschal to Henry I
his father
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Gilbert FitzRobert Giffard, le Mareschal (sui uxoris)
Gender:
Male
Birth:
circa 1067
Cheddar, Somerset, England (United Kingdom)
Death:
after 1130
Winterbourne Monkton, Marlborough, Wiltshire, England
Immediate Family:
Son of‰ possible son Robert "the Norman" of Cheddar‰ and‰ NN wife of
Husband of‰ Margaret de Venoix, Heiress of the Office of le Mareschal
Father of‰ John Marshall, I, of Rockley, le Mareschal
Excellent documentary material from Jim Weber: http://wc.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=jweber&id=I02039
Name: Gilbert le MARSHAL , of Winterbourne 1
Sex: M
ALIA: Gilbert "The Marshall" /FitzRobert/
Name: Gilbert GIFFARD , of Winterbourne, King's Marshal 2
Birth: ABT 1067 in Cheddar, Axbridge, Somerset, England
Death: BEF 1130 in Winterbourne Monkton, Marlborough, Wiltshire, England 1
Note: Gilbert the Marshal, was the first known holder of the office. He with his son John successfully maintained their right under Henry I to the office of Master Marshal in the King's Household, for which they had been impleaded in the King's Court by Robert de Venoiz and William de Hastings (g). The name and parentage of Gilbert's wife are unknown. He d. in or shortly before 1130 (h). [Complete Peerage X:Appendix G:92]
(g) This appears from King John's confirmation, 20 Apr 1200, to William Marshal, Earl of Pembroke. Gilbert may have been son or grandson of an otherwise unknown Robert, who in 1086 held Cheddar, Somerset, under Roger de Courseulles. Robert the Marshal, who in 1086 held Lavington, Wilts, in chief, has been suggested as the possible progenitor of the family, but this is unlikely, as in 1166 Lavington was held by Piers de la Mare.
(h) He left at least 2 sons, John abovenamed and William Giffard, who was presented to the church of Cheddar Hole, Somerset, and was admitted by Godfrey, Bishop of Bath (1122-35), which church was given to Bradenstoke Priory by his brother John. Unless there was another brother named William, he was Chancellor to the Empress Maud in 1141 and 1142. Presumably William was called "Giffard" as a nickname -- the chubby cheeked.
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The following is a post to SGM, 8 Jan 2003, by John Ravillious, which introduces the name "Giffard" into the Marshal family (CP thought it was merely a nickname for Gilbert's brother). Perhaps this family is connected to the Giffards of Loungeville, Normandy:
From: Therav3 AT aol.com (Therav3 AT aol.com) Subject: Gilbert Giffard of Winterbourne Monkton: ancestor of William Marshal ? Newsgroups: soc.genealogy.medieval Date: 2003-01-08 21:16:34 PST
Wednesday, 8 January, 2003
Hello All,
A wise man once said, ' Life is what happens while you're busy making other plans.' Well, he probably said it more than once.
Anyway, in looking about for more Despenser detritus, I came across an article from the English Historical Review from 1999 in which the author (N. E. Stacy) put forth, in part, the position that the family of William Marshal, Earl of Pembroke derived from one Gilbert Giffard (or Gibard), Domesday tenant of Winterbourne Monkton. I have incorporated the relevant portion of the article below [1].
Is anyone of the list aware of this derivation being accepted, or disproven? If this is correct, the information below impacts the ancestry of the widest range of list members (apologies to JSG: William Marshal is another good candidate for 'Kilroy of medieval English ancestry').
Good luck, and good hunting to all.
John *
NOTES
[1] From English Historical Review, Feb.1999: Henry of Blois and the Lordship of Glastonbury ( N. E. Stacy)
online: http://www.findarticles.com/cf_0/m0293/455_114/54050231/print.jhtml
' A major player in the politics of the civil war was the subject of another remarkable omission from the abbey's carta. On the border of John Marshal's manor of Rockley and only six miles from his base at Marlborough lay the Glastonbury manor of Winterbourne Monkton, including a 3 1/2-hide subtenancy over which the abbot's lordship had been recognized in 1086 and was to be again in 1173 and thereafter, but which was absent from the carta of 1166.(2) At the time of Domesday it had been held by Gilbert Gibard'.(3) He withheld geld from his demesne, which, as a mesne tenant, he was not entitled to do, but as one of the chief officers of the royal household he was anyway exempt. For Gilbert Gibard' or Giffard was in fact the marshal, father of John I and grandfather of John II, who answered for one fee of Glastonbury Abbey in 1173.(4) No Marshal obligation, however, was recorded in 1166. Bishop Henry's relations with the family can never have been good, since its opposition to Stephen had been patent: John I's brother, William, had become Matilda's chancellor,(5) while John himself had pursued his own interests, which took him often into the Angevin camp but rarely, if ever, into Stephen's.(6) However, the Marshal exclusion from Glastonbury's carta was not based purely on personal antagonism, for the fee they held of Henry as bishop of Winchester was duly recorded in 1166.(7) The Glastonbury problem was probably connected with a dispute between the abbey and another tenant, the earl of Salisbury, over his fee at Mildenhall (Wilts.). This large subtenancy had been granted as a marriage-portion to Earl Patrick's sister, Sybil, on her marriage to John Marshal in the 1140s and thereafter the service owed to the abbot had lapsed.(1) Whether the Marshal instigated the refusal of service from his wife's manor because of a dispute over Winterbourne or withheld service from Winterbourne because of his in-laws' dispute over Mildenhall cannot be known, but the two problems were surely connected. Bishop Henry as usual proved intractable and no settlement could be made in either case while he was alive. It was his successor, Abbot Robert of Winchester (1173-80), who secured Earl William of Salisbury's confirmation of knight service owed from Mildenhall and John Marshal II's acknowledgment of that due from Winterbourne Monkton.(2) By an irony Richard Cotel, the successor and namesake of Bishop Henry's enemy, was to marry the heiress of the rear tenant of the latter fee and so extend the presence within the Glastonbury lordship of a family which the Bishop had been at pains to expel.(3) '
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The earliest notice of this family occurs in the time of Henry I, when Gilbert Mareschall, and John, his son, were impleaded by Robert de Venoix and William de Hastings for the office of Mareschal to the king, but without success. The son, (bearing the same surname, derived from his office), was called John Mareschall. [Sir Bernard Burke, Dormant, Abeyant, Forfeited, and Extinct Peerages, Burke's Peerage, Ltd., London, 1883, p. 357, Marshal, Barons Marshal
Curator Note from Pam Wilson (9/22/2016): Gilbert was not from the Venoix family but seems to have married in to it, marrying the heiress who carried the hereditary right to the Office. He was challenged by her male cousins, William de Hasting and Robert de Venoix for the office
GILBERT "the Marshal", son of --- (-1130 or before).‰ Master Marshal of the king's household under King Henry I[1232].‰
m ---.‰ The name of Gilbertမs wife is not known.‰ It is possible that she was the heiress of William FitzAuger: the Testa de Nevill includes a writ of King John dated 1212 which records that, after the conquest, King William I granted "manerium de Boseham" in Surrey to "Willelmo filio Augeri", and that later "Willelmus Marescallus" (presumably identified as the future first Earl of Pembroke, see below) held the manor "[jure] hereditario"[1233]. ‰
Gilbert & his wife had two children:‰
1.¬â ¬â ¬â ¬â ¬â ¬â ¬â ¬â JOHN FitzGilbert "the Marshal" (-before Nov 1165).¬â He succeeded his father in [1130] as Master Marshal of the king's household.¬â The 1129/30 Pipe Roll records "Johs Marisc" accounting for "terra et ministerio patris sui"[1234].¬â The Gesta Stephani Regis names "Joannes, ille Marescallus agnominatus" among the supporters of Empress Matilda in the English civil war[1235].¬â Military fee certifications in the Red Book of the Exchequer, in 1166, record that "Johannes Marescallus" used to hold knights·Äô fees in Oxfordshire during the reign of King Henry I, now held by "Gilbertus filius eius" from "Manasser Arsic"[1236].¬â Empress Matilda made various grants of property by charter dated to [1141/42] witnessed by "·Ä¶Johes filius Gisleberti·Ä¶"[1237].¬â "·Ä¶Rainaldo comite Cornubie·Ä¶Johanne Marescallo" witnessed the charter dated to [Feb/Mar] 1155 under which Henry II King of England restored properties of "Roberto filio Hereberti Camerarii", held by "pater suus vel avus suus"[1238].¬â The 1157 Pipe Roll records "Johi Marescall" in Herefordshire and Hampshire (three times)[1239].¬â The Red Book of the Exchequer refers to "Johannes Marscallus xx s" in Worcestershire in [1161/62][1240].¬â m firstly (repudiated [1141]) as her first husband, ALINE, daughter of [WALTER Pipard] & his wife ---.¬â The Complete Peerage states that John·Äôs marriage to a daughter of Walter Pipard, a minor Wiltshire baron, is "stated as a fact by Painter" but "this seems a rash deduction from the fact that John paid 30 marks for Walter·Äôs land and daughter" [as recorded in the 1129/30 Pipe Roll in which "Johs Marisc" accounted for "terra et filia Walti Pipardi"][1241].¬â The early 13th century Histoire de Guillaume le Marâ©chal records that John divorced his first wife and married "damesele Sibire la sorur le cunte Patriz"[1242].¬â She married secondly Stephen Gai[1243].¬â Henri Duke of Normandy confirmed an agreement between "Stephanum Gai et Adelicia uxorem suam" and "Gislbtu fil Johannis Mariscalli et eiusdem Aeline" relating to her inheritance by charter dated to [Apr/May] 1153[1244].¬â m secondly (before [1144]) SIBYL de Salisbury, daughter of WALTER FitzEdward de Salisbury & his wife Matilda de Chaources .¬â The early 13th century Histoire de Guillaume le Marâ©chal records that John divorced his first wife and married "damesele Sibire la sorur le cunte Patriz"[1245].¬â John FitzGilbert & his first wife had two children:
a)‰ ‰ ‰ ‰ ‰ ‰ ‰ ‰ GILBERT (-Salisbury before Nov 1166).‰ Henri Duke of Normandy confirmed an agreement between "Stephanum Gai et Adelicia uxorem suam" and "Gislbtu fil Johannis Mariscalli et eiusdem Aeline" relating to her inheritance by charter dated to [Apr/May] 1153[1246].‰ Military fee certifications in the Red Book of the Exchequer, in 1166, record that "Gilbertus Marescallus" held one knightမs fee "de veteri feodo" from "Ricardus de Candos" in Herefordshire, and that "Gilbertus filius eius" from "Manasser Arsic" in Oxfordshire previously held by "Johannes Marescallus" during the reign of King Henry I[1247].‰
b)¬â ¬â ¬â ¬â ¬â ¬â ¬â ¬â [WALTER] (-[1166/67]).¬â The early 13th century Histoire de Guillaume le Marâ©chal records that "sun frâ©re" died of grief after the death of his brother Gilbert[1248].¬â The Complete Peerage names him Walter but does not the cite the primary source on which this information is based[1249].¬â
John Fitz-Gilbert & his second wife had [six] children:
c)¬â ¬â ¬â ¬â ¬â ¬â ¬â ¬â JOHN "the Marshal" ([1144/45]-Mar 1194, bur Bradenstoke).¬â Military fee certifications in the Red Book of the Exchequer, in 1166, record that "Johannes filius Johannis Marscalli" held one knight·Äôs fee from "Galfridi comitis Essexâ¶" in Essex[1250].¬â He succeeded to part of his father's lands in 1165, and to his half-brother's lands in 1166, and as Master Marshal of the king's household.¬â m as her first husband, JOAN de Port, daughter of ADAM de Port Lord of Basing & his first wife Mabile d·ÄôOrval (-[1204/13]).¬â The early 13th century Histoire de Guillaume le Marâ©chal records that "la fillie sire Adam de Port" married "son frâ©re" (indicating the brother of William Marshal Earl of Pembroke)[1251].¬â She married secondly, as his second wife, Richard de Rivers.¬â "Ric de Riveriis" paid a fine to marry "filia Ade de Port", dated [1200/01][1252].¬â Mistress (1): ALICE, daughter of ---.¬â John Marshal gave land in Foulsham, Norfolk to Walsingham priory for the souls of "himself and his wife Aline, for John and Alice, his father and mother, for William Marshal the Earl and Isabel his wife, and for Hubert and Margaret de Rye"[1253].¬â John the Marshal had [one illegitimate son by Mistress (1)]:¬â
i)‰ ‰ ‰ ‰ ‰ ‰ ‰ ‰ ‰ [JOHN Marshall (-1235).‰ King John confirmed "Cantelee et Castreeဦque fuerunt Hugonis de Gornaco" to "Johanni Marescall nepoti W. Maresc com de Penbroc" by charter dated 11 Nov 1204[1254].]‰
-‰ ‰ ‰ ‰ ‰ ‰ ‰ ‰ see below.‰
d)‰ ‰ ‰ ‰ ‰ ‰ ‰ ‰ WILLIAM ([1146]-Caversham 14 May 1219, bur London, Temple Church[1255]).‰ He succeeded his brother in 1194 as Master Marshal of the king's household.‰ He was invested as Earl of Pembroke 27 May 1199 by King John.‰
-‰ ‰ ‰ ‰ ‰ ‰ ‰ see below.‰
e)¬â ¬â ¬â ¬â ¬â ¬â ¬â ¬â [ANSELM .¬â The early 13th century Histoire de Guillaume le Marâ©chal records "sire Ansel li Mareschals" taking part in a tournament at Lagny-sur-Marne with Henry "the Young King"[1256].¬â The Complete Peerage assumes that he was the son of John FitzGilbert by his second marriage but the source does not specify Anselm·Äôs parentage[1257].]¬â
f)¬â ¬â ¬â ¬â ¬â ¬â ¬â ¬â ¬â HENRY (-1206).¬â The Complete Peerage names Henry as son of John FitzGilbert by his second marriage but does not the cite the primary source on which this information is based[1258].¬â Dean of York 1189.¬â Bishop of Exeter 1194.¬â Matthew Paris records the appointment in 1194 as bishop of Exeter of "Henricus Marescallus frater W[illelmi] Marescalli senioris"[1259].¬â The Annals of Margan record the death in 1206 of ·ÄúHenricus Marescallus Exoniⶠepiscopus·Äù[1260].¬â
g)‰ ‰ ‰ ‰ ‰ ‰ ‰ ‰ MATILDA .‰ The primary source which confirms her parentage and marriage has not been identified.‰ ‰ The Complete Peerage names her and records her marriage but does not the cite the primary source on which this information is based[1261].‰ m ROBERT de Pont de l'Arche, son of GUILLAUME de Pont de lမArche & his wife Constance Mauduit (-after 1196).‰
h)‰ ‰ ‰ ‰ ‰ ‰ ‰ ‰ [daughter ([1145/55]-).‰ John Hunt states that လWilliam le Grosဝ was married to လa sister of William Marshal I earl of Pembrokeဝ, when recording the marriage contract of the coupleမs daughter Margaret to လRalph Someryဝ [Ralph [II] de Somery, see UNTITLED ENGLISH NOBILITY], dated to before 1194, but he does not cite the primary source on which the information is based[1262].‰ A relationship between the Marshal and Crassus families is suggested by two sources.‰ Firstly, William Marshal Earl of Pembroke, writing to King Henry III dated 5 Aug 1224, records that he had sent "dominum W. Grassum primogenitum consanguineum nostrum" with soldiers "ad Enoc-fergus in Ultonia" [Carrickfergus] which was besieged by "Hugonem de Lascy"[1263].‰ Secondly, the Annals of Worcester record the consecration in 1230 of လAnselmus nepos Marescalli...apud Cantuariam in episcopum Menevensemဝ [as bishop of St Davidမs][1264].‰ m ([1160/70]) WILLIAM [III] Crassus, son of --- (-[1204/14]).]‰
The Complete Peerage suggests another daughter of John Fitz-Gilbert & his second wife, but this is unlikely to be correct:
i)‰ ‰ ‰ ‰ ‰ ‰ ‰ ‰ ‰ [MARGARET (-after [1242/43]).‰ The Complete Peerage names လMargaret m 1stly Ralph de Somerey, 2ndly Maurice de Gauntဝ as the first daughter of John FitzGilbert လthe Marshalဝ and his second wife[1265].‰ From a chronological point of view, this cannot be correct.‰ The births of the children of John FitzGilbert and his second wife can be dated to [1145/55].‰ Concerning the alleged first marriage, the chronology suggests that the children of Ralph de Somery and his wife were probably born in the late 1190s or the early years of the 13th century.‰ Concerning the alleged second marriage, Maurice de Gant presumably married his second wife in the hope of having children, and in any case Mauriceမs wife is recorded as living in 1247.‰ As can be seen, none of the dates is compatible with Margaret having been the daughter of John FitzGilbert.‰ The Pipe Roll 1210 records that "Margareta que fuit uxor Radulfi de Sumeri" arranged to pay an instalment of her fine for the assignment of her dower in midsummer[1266]. ‰ Henry III King of England granted "maneriis de Cantokesheved et de Hivis...que fuerunt Mauricii de Gant quondam viri sui" to "Margarete de Sumery" dated 1231[1267].‰ m firstly RALPH [II] de Somery of Dudley, Worcestershire, son of JOHN de Somery & his wife Hawise Paynell (-[Jan/Jul] 1210).‰ m secondly (after 1220) as his second wife, MAURICE de Gant, son of ROBERT လJuvenisဝ de Berkeley & his wife Avice de Gand (-1230).]‰
2.‰ ‰ ‰ ‰ ‰ ‰ ‰ ‰ WILLIAM "Giffard/Chubby-cheeked" (-after 1166).‰ The 1130 Pipe Roll records "Willo Marisc" in Essex[1268].‰ Chancellor of Empress Matilda 1141 and 1142[1269].‰ The 1157 Pipe Roll records "Wills. Maresc" in Hampshire[1270].‰ Military fee certifications in the Red Book of the Exchequer, in 1166, records that "Willelmus Marscallus" deprived the bishop of Bath of "duas hidas de dominio suo" in Somerset[1271].‰
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http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/ENGLISH%20NOBILITY%20MEDIEVAL1.htm#JohnFitzGilbertMarshaldied1165
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Marvin Loyd Welborn, "Family Tree Welborn", database, Genealogy Online (https://www.genealogieonline.nl/family-tree-welborn/I33040.php : accessed May 16, 2024), "Gilbert FitzRobert Giffard le Mareschal to Henry I (sui uxoris) (± 1067-> 1130)".
Marvin Loyd Welborn, "Family Tree Welborn", database, Genealogy Online (https://www.genealogieonline.nl/family-tree-welborn/I33040.php : accessed May 16, 2024), "Gilbert FitzRobert Giffard le Mareschal to Henry I (sui uxoris) (± 1067-> 1130)".