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(1) He is married to Aude (Aldana) of Austrasia.

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(2) He is married to N.N. de Bourgogne.

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Theuderic (or Thierry or Teiric) was Count of Autun, and Count of Toulouse (771).
Parents UNKNOWN
He is NOT Théodoric IV, King of the Franks; Makhir, the Jewish Prince,;or Aymeri de Narbonne

Teiric d'Autun, comte d'Autun
Gender:
Male
Birth:
circa 720
Autun, Saône-et-Loire, France
Death:
December 15, 793 (69-77)
Toulouse, Haute-Garonne, Midi-Pyrénées, France
Place of Burial:
Saint-Guilhem-le-Désert, Hérault, Languedoc-Roussillon, France
Immediate Family:
Son of Unknown Father of Thierry I and Unknown Mother of Thierry I
Husband of Aude of Austrasia
Father of Bertha (Aube) d'Autun; Aude de Gellone; St. William of Gellone, count of Toulouse; Adalehelm d'Autun; Gilbert, count of Rouergue; UNK Narbonne Daughter de Toulouse; Thierry II, count of Autun; Ayga d'Autun and Graaf van Poitou Anselm van Aquitaine ¬´ less

Do not confuse him with Makhir, the Jewish Prince, or with Théodéric IV of Austrasia,King of the Franks (?-737) or Aymeri de Narbonne, the fictional father of the fictional counterpart of Thierry's son Guillaume de Gellone.
Theuderic (or Thierry or Teiric) was Count of Autun, and Count of Toulouse (771). His ancestry is not attested by contemporary sources. Traditionally, he was held to have been of Merovingian descent, son of either Bernarius and Chrodelinde (Moriarty, Stuart), or of Childébrand, Duke of Burgundy, and Rolande.
In some modern literature he is confused with Théodéric IV, King of the Franks (?-737). See, for example, Michael of Albany and Walid Amine Salhab, The Knights Templar of the Middle East (San Francisco, 2006), 52.
Some scholars think Theuderic was connected in some way with the Jewish dynasty of exilarchs at Narbonne, perhaps identical with with Makhir, a Jewish prince who came from Iraq to serve as leader of the Jewish community at Narbonne. Zuckerman suggested Makhir was identical with Natronai ben Habibai, while others believe Makhir was more likely Natronai's younger brother. According to Zuckerman, he adopted the Frankish name Theuderic (Thierry) when he married into the Frankish royal family. In later romance he was called Aymery.
Zuckerman's theory is widely rejected by historians.

From the French Wikipedia page on Thierry I d'Autun:
http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thierry_Ier_d'Autun
Thierry Ier d'Autun est un comte d'Autun du VIIIe siècle de la famille des Guilhemides.
Origine
Aucun document ne mentionne son ascendance. La pr√©sence dans sa descendance des pr√©noms de Bernard, Thierry et Rolande a conduit en 1965 Eduard Hlawitschka à rapprocher les premiers Guilhemides de la famille de Bertrade de Pr√ºm. En effet, cette derni√®re fonde l'abbaye de Pr√ºm en 721, et, parmi les signataires de l'acte de la fondation, figurent son fils Caribert et ses proches parents Rolande, Bernhar et Thierry. Les historiens admettent que Rolande et Bernhar sont mari√©s ensemble et p√®re de Thierry, lequel est chronologiquement le p√®re de Thierry Ier, comte d'Autun. Reste à √©valuer la parent√© entre Rolande et Berthe. Pierre Rich√© les consid√®re comme s≈ìurs et filles du s√©n√©chal Hugobert et d'Irmina d'Oeren, tandis que Chritian Settipani consid√®re que Rolande est fille de Bertrade[1],[2].
Biographie
Thierry est cit√© comme comte d'Autun à plusieurs reprises en 742 et 750[2]. En 775, un jugement rendu par Charlemagne le nomme parmi les fid√®les du roi[3]. En 782, Eginhard le qualifie de parent du roi (Charlemagne). Il d√©c√®de apr√®s cette date[3],[2].
Mariage et enfants
Il a √©pous√© Alda, probablement fille de Charles Martel, duc des Francs, qui donne naissance à :
1. Theoden (ou Teudoin) (ဠ ap.826), comte d'Autun, cité en 804[3]
2. Thierry, cité en 782[4],[2] et en 804[3].
3. Alleaume (ou Adalhelm)[4],[3].
4. Guillaume (ou Guilhem)[4],[2], comte de Toulouse et fondateur, en 804, de l'abbaye de Saint-Guilhem-le-Désert. Bien plus tard (vers le XIIe siècle), ce dernier sera renommé Guillaume dမOrange dans un des grands cycles épiques du Moyen Age.
5. Abba et Berta, citées comme religieuse en 804. L'une d'elles a probablement épousé un Nibelungide, Childebrand II ou Nibelung II[5].
Notes et références
1.ᆑ Riché 1983, p. 350 (tableau III).
2.·Üë a, b, c, d et e Settipani 1993, p. 173-6.
3.·Üë a, b, c, d et e Foundation for Medieval Genealogy [archive].
4.ᆑ a, b et c Riché 1983, p. 369, tab. XXIII.
5.·Üë Settipani 1993, p. 344-5.
Bibliographie
1. Pierre Riché, Les Carolingiens, une famille qui fit l'Europe, Hachette, coll. « Pluriel », Paris, 1983 (réimpr. 1997), 490 p. (ISBN 2-01-278851-3)
2. Christian Settipani, La Préhistoire des Capétiens (Nouvelle histoire généalogique de l'auguste maison de France, vol. 1), éd. Patrick van Kerrebrouck, 1993 (ISBN 2-9501509-3-4)
3. Foundation for Medieval Genealogy : Carolingian Nobility (Families of Nibelung, Childebrand and Theodoric)
In English:
Thierry I d'Autun was a Comte d'Autun of the 8th century, in the family of Guilhemides.
Origin
There is no record of his descent. The presence of his name in the lineage of Bernard, Thierry and Rolande led Eduard Hlawitschka in 1965 to suggest that Bertrada de Prum belonged to the Guilhemides. Indeed, Bertrada founded the Abbey of Prum in 721, and among the signatories of the act of foundation was her son Caribart, and his kin Rolande, Bernhar, and Thierry.
Historians agree that Rolande and Bernhar were married, and that Thierry was father, chronologically the father of Thierry I, Comte d'Autun. The relationship between Rolande and Bertha remains to be evaluated. Pierre Riche has them as sisters, and the daughters of Seneschal Hugobert and Irmina of Oeren, while Christian Settipani considers Rolando to be the daughter of Bertrade [1][2].
Biography:
Thierry was cited as Comte d'Autun repeated between 742 and 750 [2]. In 775, a decision was made by Charlemagne to make him a member of the King's court [3]. In 782, Einhard cites that he is described as a relative of the King (Charlemagne). He died afterward. [3][2]
Marriage and Children
He married Alda, probably the daughter of Charles Martel, Duke of the Franks, who gave birth to:
1. Theoden (or Teudoin, d. c.826), Comte d'Autun, cited in 804 [3]
2. Thierry, cited in 782 [4][2] and 804 [3]
3. Alleaume (or Adalhelm) [4][3]
4. Guillaume (or Guilhem) [4][2], Comte de Toulouse and founder (in 804) of the Abbey of St-Guilhem-le-Desert. Much later (around the 12th century), he will be renamed William of Orange in a major epic cycle of the Middle Ages.
5. Abba and Berta, cited as nuns in 804. One of them was probably married to the Nibelungids, Childebrand II or Nibelung II [5].
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From the Foundation for Medieval Genealogy page on Carolingian Nobility:
http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/FRANKISH%20NOBILITY.htm#TheodericIAutundiedbefore804
The common connection with Autun, and the common use of the name "Theoderic", suggest that the following family was closely related to the family of Nibelung and Childebrand. If this is correct, the only possibility from a chronological point of view is that either Theoderic [I] or his wife was the child of Nibelung [I].
A different speculation is that Theoderic [I] may have been related to the early Saxon leader Widukind (see SAXONY), in whose family references have been found to "Theoderich". The presence of Comte Theoderic, whom it seems likely was the same person as Theoderic [I], in Saxony as recorded by Einhard in 782 (see below) suggests that he may have been acting in some official capacity for the Franks, maybe because of his prior connection with Saxony.
It is not impossible that Theoderic was one of the Saxon leaders who surrendered to Charles I King of the Franks in 777 and was rewarded with appointments at the royal court. If this speculation is correct, the name Theoderic may have entered the Nibelung/Childebrand family through Dunna, the wife of Childebrand [III], whose origin is unknown.
A third possibility is that Theoderic was a Frankish name which predated the Carolingian conquest of Saxony, as shown by the charter dated 8 Jul 753 under which "Pippinus rex Francorum" confirmed rights to market customs duties of the abbey of Saint-Denis by charter dated 8 Jul 753 which names "fidelibusဦTheudericoဦ"[347].
THEODERIC [I], son of --- (-[791/15 Dec 804]).
The origin of Comte Theoderic is not known. An interesting speculation is a relationship with the early Saxon leader Widukind, as explained above.
Comte d'Autun. Einhard indicates that Theoderich was related to Charles I King of the Franks when he records that in 782 the king sent his three missi "Adalgiso camerario et Geilone comite stabuli et Worado comite palati" to meet "inဦSaxonisဦTheodericus comes, propinquus regis"[348], the relationship probably being through the wife of Theoderic [I].
"Carolusဦrex Francorum et Langobardorum" gave a judgment by charter dated to [Dec 775] which names "fidelibusဦWidrigo, Odrigo, Theodrico, Bernehardo, Albuino, Aginhardo, Berngario comitibus et Anshelmo comite palacii nostri"[349]. Einhard records that Charles I King of the Franks sent "Theodorico comite et Meginfredo camerario suo" to "aquilonalem Danubii ripam" in 791[350]. "Willelmusဦcomes" names "genitore meo Theuderico et genitrice mea Aldana" in his charter dated 14 Dec 804 (version two: dated 15 Dec 804) for the foundation of the monastery of Gellone[351].
m ALDANA, daughter of ---.
"Willelmusဦcomes" names "genitore meo Theuderico et genitrice mea Aldana" in his charter dated 14 Dec 804 (version two: dated 15 Dec 804) for the foundation of the monastery of Gellone[352].
Settipani quotes an Aquitaine necrology which lists "Willelmusဦpater eius Theodericus, mater Aldana soror Hiltrudis et Landradæ"[353]. He suggests that "Hiltrudis" was the wife of Odilo Duke of Bavaria, and therefore that the wife of Theoderic was Alda, daughter of Charles "Martel" maiordomus of Austrasia and Neustria [Carolingian]. The theory is attractive but not conclusive, as its validity depends on there being no other contemporary Hiltrudis, which is not provable. Hlawitschka highlights the case against the affiliation[354].
However, the evidence of the 25 May 765 charter, quoted in the document MEROVINGIAN NOBILITY under Aldana´s supposed sister Landrada, suggests that Settipani´s hypothesis may be correct. In addition, Einhard indicates that Theoderic [I] was related to Charles I King of the Franks when he records that in 782 King Charles sent his three missi "Adalgiso camerario et Geilone comite stabuli et Worado comite palati" to meet "inဦSaxonisဦTheodericus comes, propinquus regis"[355].
One possible relationship being between the king and Theoderic [I] would have been through his wife, if she had been the king's paternal aunt.
Theoderic [I] & his wife had [seven] children:
1. TEUDOIN (-826 or after). Comte d'Autun 804/26.
m ---. The name of the wife of Teudoin is not known.
a) THEODERIC [III] (-[after 826]). 816/21.
Theoderic is named as son of Teudoin in Europäische Stammtafeln[357] but the primary source on which this is based has not been identified. The Manual of Dhuoda names "domnus Teodericusဦcondam" as godfather of Doda's son Bernard (born in 826), although it does not specify a family relationship between the two[358]. Of the three possible individuals in the family named Theoderic, Theoderic [II] is a less likely possibility because of his presumed age. Theoderic [IV] is named in another section of the Manual, without any reference to his being Bernard's godfather. Theoderic [III] therefore appears the most likely possibility.
2. THEODERIC [II] (-after 811). Einhard's Annales record "Theotheri comes" as one of the signatories of peace with the Vikings in 811[359].
3. ADALELM .
4. [--- . m ---.] One possible child:
a) [BERTRAND . There is no more precise indication of the relationship between Guillaume and Bertrand although, if nepos is in this context correctly translated as nephew, Bertrand must have been the son of a brother or sister of Guillaume who is not otherwise named in the charter, presumably deceased at the time.]
5. GUILLAUME ([750/55]-Gellone [28 May [812/13]/21 May 815]). Comte de Toulouse, Marquis de Septimanie.
6. ABBA [Albana] (-after 804). Nun in 804.
[m NIBELUNG [II], son of [NIBELUNG [I] Count in Burgundy & his wife --- (-after 805). Settipani highlights the onomastic connections between the family of St Guillaume and the family of Nibelung, suggested by the names Bernard and Theoderic borne by the possible descendants of Nibelung [II][363]. He suggests that, if there was a connection between the two families, it would most likely have been through the wife of Nibelung [II] who could have been either Abba or Berta, sisters of St Guillaume. There is, however, no indication at all of the first name of the wife of Nibelung [II]. This would of course be incorrect if the connection was through either Abba's father or mother, as referred to above. The other difficulty with this hypothesis is that the Vita S. Willelmi implies that Guillaume´s sisters remained unmarried when it records that he had လduæ sorores virginesဦAlbanaဦBertanaဝ[364].]
7. BERTA [Bertana].

Thierry IV¬â€ or¬â€ Theoderic IV¬â€ (c.¬â€ 720¬â€ ·Äì c. 782) was a¬â€ Frankish¬â€ noble. Count of¬â€ Autun¬â€ and¬â€ Toulouse; he was thought to be a son of¬â€ Sigebert V, and grandson of¬â€ Sigebert IV of Raze, (although Sigebert is recorded as dying as a child). It is now well documented that his supposed Davidic blood was a hoax (see¬â€ Priory of Sion). Thierry married¬â€ Auda, daughter of¬â€ Charles Martel, sister of¬â€ Pepin III.
Children
·Ä¢William of Gellone¬â€ (755 ·Äì 28 May 812/4)
·Ä¢Alda of Gellone (born ca. 770); married Fredalon
·Ä¢Adalhelm of Autun

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