Hildouin II de Ramerupt, de Montdidier I. comte de Montdidier (967-> 993) » Family Tree Welborn

Personal data Hildouin II de Ramerupt, de Montdidier I. comte de Montdidier

He was born estimated around imated between 935 and 967 in Arcis Sur Aube, Aube, Grand Est, France.
He died after 993 in Acre, Akko, District nord, Israel.
A child of FNU of Hersinde de Ramerupt and Hersinde "le Pieuse" de Ramerupt
This information was last updated on March 3, 2022.

Household of Hildouin II de Ramerupt, de Montdidier I. comte de Montdidier

(1) He is married to Hâ©lvise de Laon.

They got married

Child(ren):

Manassâ®s de Dammartin ± 992-1037

(2) He is married to Gertrude de Chaumontois.

They got married

Child(ren):

Hilduin III de Montdidier 975-> 1032

Notes about Hildouin II de Ramerupt, de Montdidier I. comte de Montdidier

Hilduin II de Montdidier, count of Arcis-sur-Aube, seigneur de Ramerupt
Gender:
Male
Birth:
estimated between 935 and 967¬â
Arcis Sur Aube, Aube, Grand Est, France
Death:
after 993
Acre, Akko, District nord, Israel
Immediate Family:
Son of Hilduin I d'Arcis-Sur-Aube, 1st comte de Montdidier, d·ÄôArcis-sur-Aube et de Ramerupt

Husband of Gertrude de Chaumontois

Father of Hilduin III de Montdidier, comte de Montdidier. seigneur de Ramerupt

https://www.geni.com/people/Hilduin-II-de-Montdidier-count-of-Arcis-sur-Aube-seigneur-de-Ramerupt/6000000062655713928

Hilduin II de Montdidier, count of Arcis-sur-Aube, seigneur de Ramerupt is your 27th great grandfather.
You
¬â ·Üí Henry Marvin Welborn
your father ·Üí Henry Marvin Welborn, Sr.
his father ·Üí Francis "Fannie" Pernerviane Welborn (Davis)
his mother ·Üí Primma M. Pridgen
her mother ·Üí Sarah Autra Pridgen (Pitchlynn)
her mother ·Üí Major John Pitchlynn, Sr.
her father ·Üí Jemima Sally Pitchlynn (Hickman)
his mother ·Üí Marie Hickman (Hornbeck)
her mother ·Üí Janneke aka Jane Hornbeck (Kortright)
her mother ·Üí Sarah Kortright (Ten Eyck)
her mother ·Üí Jannetje Aldertse Roosa
her mother ·Üí Captain Aeldert Hymansz Roosa
her father ·Üí Heijmen Guijsbert Roosa
his adoptive father ·Üí Gijsbert Goertzen Roosa
his father ·Üí Jutta van Heukelom, gezegd van Rosendael
his mother ·Üí Otto Ottensz van Heukelom
her father ·Üí Otto van Heukelom
his father ·Üí Otto Ottensz van Heukelom
his father ·Üí Aleid d'Avesnes
his mother ·Üí Guido (Gwijde Gui) d'Avesnes, bishop of Utrecht
her father ·Üí Jean I d'Avesnes, count of Hainault
his father ·Üí Bouchard IV, seigneur d'Avesnes
his father ·Üí Adelheid 'Alix' de Guise, dame de Guise & de Lesquielles
his mother ·Üí Alix¬â¤ de Roucy
her mother ·Üí Hugues Cholet de Roucy, Comte de Roucy
her father ·Üí Ebles II de Ramerupt, count of Roucy
his father ·Üí Count Hildouin IV de Montdidier, comte de Montdidier, seigneur de Ramerupt
his father ·Üí Hilduin III de Montdidier, comte de Montdidier. seigneur de Ramerupt
his father ·Üí Hilduin II de Montdidier, count of Arcis-sur-Aube, seigneur de Ramerupt
his father

Hildouin II de Ramerupt, I. comte de Montdidier is your 29th great grandfather.
You¬â
¬â ¬â ·Üí¬â Henry Marvin Welborn¬â
your father¬â ·Üí¬â Henry Marvin Welborn, Sr.¬â
his father¬â ·Üí¬â Calhoun H Welborn¬â
his father¬â ·Üí¬â Younger Welborn¬â
his father¬â ·ÜíWilliam "Billy" Welborn¬â
his father¬â ·Üí¬â Aaron Welborne¬â
his father¬â ·Üí¬â James Welborn¬â
his father¬â ·Üí¬â Ann B. Wellborn¬â
his mother¬â ·Üí¬â William H. Crabtree¬â
her father¬â ·ÜíJames Thomas Crabtree¬â
his father¬â ·Üí¬â Samuel Crabtree¬â
his father¬â ·Üí¬â William Thomas Crabtree¬â
his father¬â ·Üí¬â Grace Crabtree¬â
his mother¬â ·Üí¬â George Courtenay¬â
her father¬â ·ÜíJohn Courtney, MP, of Lanivet¬â
his father¬â ·Üí¬â Richard Courtney¬â
his father¬â ·Üí¬â Edmund Courtney¬â
his father¬â ·Üí¬â Sir Philip Courtenay, of Powderham and Molland¬â
his father¬â ·ÜíSir John Courtenay, of Powderham¬â
his father¬â ·Üí¬â Sir Philip Courtenay, KG, MP¬â
his father¬â ·Üí¬â Margaret de Courtenay, Countess of Devon¬â
his mother¬â ·ÜíHumphrey VIII de Bohun, 4th Earl of Herford¬â
her father¬â ·Üí¬â Maude de Fiennes¬â
his mother¬â ·Üí¬â Enguerrand Ingelram II de Fiennes, Baron De Tingry¬â
her father¬â ·ÜíQueen Agnes DeFiennes¬â
his mother¬â ·Üí¬â Aubry II, count of Dammartin¬â
her father¬â ·Üí¬â Aubri de Mello, chambrier de France, sieur de Dammartin¬â
his father¬â ·ÜíAelis de Dammartin¬â
his mother¬â ·Üí¬â Hugues I de Dammartin, comte de Montdidier¬â
her father¬â ·Üí¬â Manassâ®s, comte de Dammartin¬â
his father¬â ·ÜíHildouin II de Ramerupt, I. comte de Montdidier¬â
his father

Hildouin II de Ramerupt, I. comte de Montdidier is your 32nd great grandfather.
You¬â
¬â ¬â ·Üí¬â Geneva Allene Welborn¬â
your mother¬â ·Üí¬â Henry Loyd Smith, Sr.¬â
her father¬â ·Üí¬â Edith Lucinda Smith¬â
his mother¬â ·Üí¬â William M LEE, Will¬â
her father¬â ·Üí¬â Britton Lee¬â
his father·Üí¬â William Samuel Lee¬â
his father¬â ·Üí¬â Lemuel Samuel Lee¬â
his father¬â ·Üí¬â Edward Lee, I¬â
his father¬â ·Üí¬â Mary Bryan¬â
his mother¬â ·Üí¬â William Bryan, I¬â
her father¬â ·ÜíJohn Smith Bryan, of Nansemond¬â
his father¬â ·Üí¬â William Bryan¬â
his father¬â ·Üí¬â Sir Francis Bryan, II, Justicar of Ireland¬â
his father¬â ·ÜíSir Francis Bryan I "The Vicar of Hell", Lord Chief Justice of Ireland¬â
his father¬â ·Üí¬â Sir Thomas Bryan, II, Kt.¬â
his father¬â ·ÜíThomas Bryan, Chief Justice of the Common Pleas¬â
his father¬â ·Üí¬â Edmund Bryan, I¬â
his father¬â ·Üí¬â Sir Knight Thomas Bryan¬â
his father¬â ·Üí¬â Sir William Bryan¬â
his father¬â ·ÜíGuy de Brienne, 1st Baron of Bryan, KG¬â
his father¬â ·Üí¬â Lord Brienne, Baron Chastel, Guy de Brien¬â
his father¬â ·Üí¬â Guy de Brienne, III¬â
his father¬â ·ÜíSir Guy de Brienne, Knight of Pembrokeshire¬â
his father¬â ·Üí¬â Sir Guy de Brienne, I¬â
his father¬â ·Üí¬â Marie de Lusignan, comtesse d'Eu¬â
his mother¬â ·ÜíYolande de Dreux, Comtesse d'Eu¬â
her mother¬â ·Üí¬â Yolande de Coucy, Countess of Coucy¬â
her mother¬â ·Üí¬â Raoul I de Coucy, seigneur de Marle¬â
her father¬â ·ÜíEnguerrand II de Coucy¬â
his father¬â ·Üí¬â Mâ©lisende de Corbeil¬â
his mother¬â ·Üí¬â Guy de Crecy de Corbeil¬â
her father¬â ·Üí¬â Eustachie de Dammartin¬â
his mother¬â ·ÜíManassâ®s, comte de Dammartin¬â
her father¬â ·Üí¬â Hildouin II de Ramerupt, I. comte de Montdidier¬â
his father

https://www.geni.com/people/Hildouin-II-de-Ramerupt-I-comte-de-Montdidier/6000000001353901340

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hilduin_II,_Count_of_Arcis-sur-Aube
Hilduin II, Count of Arcis-sur-Aube
Hilduin II (d. after 993), Count of Arcis-sur-Aube, Seigneur de Ramerupt, was the nephew or son of Hilduin I, Count of Montdidier. His mother was Hersende, a noble lady who was either Hilduin I's wife or sister or the spouse of Hilduin I's unnamed brother.[1] Hilduin II was a member of the House of Montdidier.
Virtually nothing is known about Hilduin II other than an obscure reference in the Chronicle of Alberic de Trois-Fontaines. He reportedly made a pilgrimage to Jerusalem in 992 during a rare time of peace there following the death of conquering general Jawhar al-Siqilli.
He apparently married, but the name of his wife is unknown. He and his wife had two children:
Hilduin III, Count of Montdidier and Seigneur de Ramerupt Manasses, Count of Dammartin (sometimes referred to as Calvus Manassas), married Constance, daughter of Robert II, King of France. His son Hilduin III inherited the title of Seigneur de Ramerupt, but no other Counts of Arcis-sur-Aube are recorded
*********** From fmgMedlands http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/chamdampjo.htm#_ftnref598
Two siblings: 1. HILDUIN [I] (-before 956). Comte [de Montdidier]. Philippe I King of France donated the village of Bagneux to the abbey of Saint-Germain-des-Prâ©s in exchange for Combs by charter dated 1061, which recounts that "Hugonis ducis·Ä¶magnus" [Hugues "le Grand"] had granted Combs to "Hilduino·Ä¶comiti de Monte qui vocatur Desiderius", who died before his benefactor (i.e. before 956), and that Henri I King of France had regranted Combs to "Manasses nepos supradicti Hilduini comitis" just as "suus avunculus Hilduinus" had held it, noting that "Odo comes filius prefati Manassetis" now claimed the property as held by "avunculus patris eius Hilduinus"[603]. 2. brother/sister . On the basis of the charter dated 1061 which is quoted above, there are two possible identities for this brother/sister. If a brother, he was the husband of Hersende Dame de Ramerupt, mother of Hilduin [II] who is shown below. If a sister, she was Hersende herself. If the word "avunculus" in the document is given its strict interpretation of maternal uncle, the latter possibility would be correct. However, such relationship terms are not consistently used in their strict linguistic sense in medieval documents. In any case, from a chronological point of view, the term must indicate great-uncle in the 1061 document.
1. --- . Arbois de Jubainville states that the name of Hersende·Äôs husband is not known, adding that "on suppose sans preuve que c·Äôâ©tait Hilduin comte de Ponthieu"[604]. As noted above, one possibility is that the husband of Hersende was the brother of Hilduin [I] who is shown above. m HERSENDE Dame de Ramerupt, daughter of ---. The Historia S. Balsemii records that "la comtesse·Ä¶Hersende" transported the relics of St Baussenge from the priory of Saint-Pierre d·ÄôArcis-sur-Aube to "son châ¢teau de Ramerupt dans une â©glise bâ¢tie ââ ses frais, sous l·Äôinvocation de Notre-Dame"[605]. As noted above, one possibility is that Hersende was the sister of Hilduin [I] who is shown above. Two children:
a) HILDUIN [II] (-after [992/93]). The Historia S. Balsemii and the Historia S. Bercharii name "Hilduin comte d·ÄôArcis" as the son of "la comtesse·Ä¶Hersende"[606]. Comte d·ÄôArcis-sur-Aube. The Chronicle of Alberic de Trois-Fontaines names "comes de Arceis et de Ramerut·Ä¶Hilduinus" as brother of "episcopi Manasse Trecensi", specifying that they were "de genere, ut dicitur, Ganalonis"[607]. The reference to "Ganalo" has not been deciphered. Seigneur de Ramerupt. The Chronicle of Alberic de Trois-Fontaines records in [992/93] that "Adzo [abbas·Ä¶Dervensis monasterii]" [Adzon abbâ© de Montiâ©render] died "in peregratione transmarina", adding that he had taken with him "comitem Hilduinum de Arceis"[608].
b) MANASSES (-991). The Chronicle of Alberic de Trois-Fontaines names "comes de Arceis et de Ramerut·Ä¶Hilduinus" as brother of "episcopi Manasse Trecensi", specifying that they were "de genere, ut dicitur, Ganalonis"[609]. Bishop of Troyes 970.
===============

Son of Hersinde, Dame de Ramerupt, Countess of Arcis-sur-Aube (father unknown)
------------------------
From¬â FMG Medieval Lands database:
SEIGNEURS de RAMERUPT

1. --- . Arbois de Jubainville states that the name of Hersende·Äôs husband is not known, adding that "on suppose sans preuve que c·Äôâ©tait Hilduin comte de Ponthieu"[1838]. As noted above, one possibility is that the husband of Hersende was the brother of Hilduin [I] who is shown above.
m HERSENDE Dame de Ramerupt, daughter of ---. The Historia S. Balsemii records that "la comtesse·Ä¶Hersende" transported the relics of St Baussenge from the priory of Saint-Pierre d·ÄôArcis-sur-Aube to "son châ¢teau de Ramerupt dans une â©glise bâ¢tie ââ ses frais, sous l·Äôinvocation de Notre-Dame"[1839]. As noted above, one possibility is that Hersende was the sister of Hilduin [I] who is shown above. Two children:
a)¬â HILDUIN [II]¬â (-after [992/93]). The Historia S. Balsemii and the Historia S. Bercharii name "Hilduin comte d·ÄôArcis" as the son of "la comtesse·Ä¶Hersende"[1840].¬â Comte d·ÄôArcis-sur-Aube. The Chronicle of Alberic de Trois-Fontaines names "comes de Arceis et de Ramerut·Ä¶Hilduinus" as brother of "episcopi Manasse Trecensi", specifying that they were "de genere, ut dicitur, Ganalonis"[1841]. The reference to "Ganalo" has not been deciphered.¬â Seigneur de Ramerupt. The Chronicle of Alberic de Trois-Fontaines records in [992/93] that "Adzo [abbas·Ä¶Dervensis monasterii]" [Adzon abbâ© de Montiâ©render] died "in peregratione transmarina", adding that he had taken with him "comitem Hilduinum de Arceis"[1842].
b) MANASSES (-991). The Chronicle of Alberic de Trois-Fontaines names "comes de Arceis et de Ramerut·Ä¶Hilduinus" as brother of "episcopi Manasse Trecensi", specifying that they were "de genere, ut dicitur, Ganalonis"[1843]. Bishop of Troyes 970.

Two brothers, presumably great-nephews of Hilduin [I] who is shown above if the 1061 charter noted above is interpreted correctly, maybe sons of Hilduin [II] Seigneur de Ramerupt:
1. HILDUIN [III] (-after 1032). Arbois de Jubainville names Hilduin [II] and adds that "on peut supposer que cet Hilduin â©tait fils" of Hilduin [I], implying that there is no primary source which confirms that they were father and son[1844]. Comte [de Montdidier]. Seigneur de Ramerupt. Robert II King of France confirmed the donation of "Manasses comes" to Chartres Notre-Dame by charter dated 4 Feb 1031, signed by "·Ä¶Manasses comitis, Hilduini comitis fratris eius, filiorum eius Manassis et Hilduini, Burcardo de Montemorenciaco, Evrardi filii Hilduini de Britoglio, Amalrici de Monteforti, Milonis de Caprosa·Ä¶"[1845]. - see below.
2. MANASSES (-killed in battle Ornel, near Etain 15 Dec 1037, bur Verdun St Vanne). The Genealogiâ¶ Scriptoris Fusniacensis names "comes Suessionis et comes de Dommartin et comes de Ronaco et Manasses cui agnomen Calva-asina" as brothers of "Helduino comiti de Ramerut"[1846]. This passage names both "comes de Dommartin" and "Manasses cui agnomen Calva-asina" as brothers of "Helduini comiti de Ramerut". As shown by the charter dated 4 Feb 1031 which is quoted below, "Hilduini comitis" had a brother and a son named Manassâ®s. A sensible interpretation of the Genealogiâ¶ is therefore that "comes de Dammartin" (named Manassâ®s) was the brother of Hilduin [II] and "Manasses cui agnomen Calva-asina" his son. This speculation appears to be confirmed by the charter dated 1061, under which Philippe I King of France donated the village of Bagneux to the abbey of Saint-Germain-des-Prâ©s in exchange for Combs, which recounts that "Hugonis ducis·Ä¶magnus" [Hugues "le Grand"] had granted Combs to "Hilduino·Ä¶comiti de Monte qui vocatur Desiderius", who died before his benefactor (i.e. before 956), and that Henri I King of France had regranted Combs to "Manasses nepos supradicti Hilduini comitis" just as "suus avunculus Hilduinus" had held it, noting that "Odo comes filius prefati Manassetis" now claimed the property as held by "avunculus patris eius Hilduinus"[1847]. Comte de Dammartin-en-Goâ´le. Robert II King of France confirmed the donation of "Manasses comes" to Chartres Notre-Dame by charter dated 4 Feb 1031, signed by "·Ä¶Manasses comitis, Hilduini comitis fratris eius, filiorum eius Manassis et Hilduini, Burcardo de Montemorenciaco, Evrardi filii Hilduini de Britoglio, Amalrici de Monteforti, Milonis de Caprosa·Ä¶"[1848].] - COMTES de DAMMARTIN.
----------------------------------
Source:
1. "Royalty for Commoners",
Roderick W. Stuart, 1992, 2nd edition.
This book lists all of the known ancestors of John of Gaunt,
which amounts to most of the Medieval royalty of Europe. Also
see the following article: "A Mediaeval Miscellany:
Commentaries on Roderick W. Stuart's Royalty for Commoners,"
The American Genealogist 69 (April 1994)
http://homepages.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~pmcbride/rfc/gw108.htm#I9503
Hildouin II Count of Montdidier, Seigneur de Rameru (-992) [Pedigree]
Son of Helpuin Count of Arcis-sur-Aube and Hersinde Countess of Arcis-sur-Aube
ev. Pilgrimage to Jerusalem 992
d. AFT 992
Children:
1. Hildouin III Count of Montdidier m. _____ DAMMARTIN
2. Manasses Count Dammartin (-1037) m. Constance of France

Hilduin II, Comte de Montdidier, d'Arcies, & de Rameru, made a pilgramage to Jerusalem at Outremer.
See "My Lines"
(¬â http://homepages.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~cousin/html/p330.htm#i11430¬â )
from Compiler: R. B. Stewart, Evans, GA
(¬â http://homepages.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~cousin/html/index.htm¬â )

Do you have supplementary information, corrections or questions with regards to Hildouin II de Ramerupt, de Montdidier I. comte de Montdidier?
The author of this publication would love to hear from you!

Timeline Hildouin II de Ramerupt, de Montdidier I. comte de Montdidier

This functionality is only available in Javascript supporting browsers.

Click on the names for more info. Symbols used: grootouders

grandparents ouders

parents

brothers/sisters kinderen

children

Ancestors (and descendant) of Hildouin II de Ramerupt, de Montdidier

Herluin II d'Amiens (de Pontieu)
890-945

FNU de Dammartin
± 895-± 980

Hedouin de Ramerupt
905-????

Hersende d'Arcis

FNU of Hersinde de Ramerupt
± 930-± 970

Hersinde "le Pieuse" de Ramerupt
934-970

Hildouin II de Ramerupt, de Montdidier
967-> 993

(1)



					Manassâ®s de Dammartin ± 992-1037

(2)

Gertrude de Chaumontois
± 910-± 945



					Hilduin III de Montdidier 975-> 1032

Visualize another relationship

The data shown has no sources.

About the surname De Ramerupt, de Montdidier

View the information that Genealogie Online has about the surname De Ramerupt, de Montdidier.
Check the information Open Archives has about De Ramerupt, de Montdidier.
Check the Wie (onder)zoekt wie? register to see who is (re)searching De Ramerupt, de Montdidier.

The Family Tree Welborn publication was prepared by Marvin Loyd Welborn.contact the author

When copying data from this family tree, please include a reference to the origin:
Marvin Loyd Welborn, "Family Tree Welborn", database, Genealogy Online (https://www.genealogieonline.nl/family-tree-welborn/I28116.php : accessed June 20, 2024), "Hildouin II de Ramerupt, de Montdidier I. comte de Montdidier (967-> 993)".

Search all persons

Search all publications

Search helptexts

Search Open Archives

Search Wie (onder)zoekt wie?

Search discussions