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Robert de Ros, 2nd Lord of Hamlake/Helmsley
Robert de Ros, 2nd Lord of Hamlake
Gender:
Male
Birth:
1124
Helmsley, Yorkshire, England (United Kingdom)
Death:
1162 (37-38)
North Yorkshire, England (United Kingdom)
Immediate Family:
Son of Piers de Ros and Adeline d'Espec
Husband of N.N. 1st wife of Robert de Ros
and Sybilla de Valoignes
Partner of Mistress? de Ros
Father of Henry Fitz Robert; David Fitz Robert; Everard de Ros II, Baron of Helmsley and Joan de Ros
Brother of Everard de Ros, I and Gilbert de Ros
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Robert de Ros, 2nd Lord of Hamlake/Helmsley is your 30th great grandfather.
You
‰ ᆒ Geneva Allene Welborn (Smith)
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her mother ·Üí Philip Darcy, 6th Lord Darcy of Knayth
her father ·Üí Sir John Darcy, 5th Baron of Knaith
his father ·Üí Phillip Darcy, Sr., 4th Lord Darcy de Knayth
his father ·Üí Lady Elizabeth de Mauley (Meynell)
his mother ·Üí Sir Nicholas de Meynell, 1st Baron Meinill of Whorlton
her father ·Üí Nicholas de Meynell, 2nd Lord Meinill of Whorlton
his father ·Üí Nicholas de Meinill, 1st Lord Meinill
his father ·Üí Stephen de Meinill, III
his father ·Üí Robert de Meynell
his father ·Üí Joan de Ros
his mother ·Üí Robert de Ros, 2nd Lord of Hamlake/Helmsley
her father
Robert de Ros, 2nd Lord of Hamlake/Helmsley is your 26th great grandfather.
You‰
‰ ‰ ᆒ‰ Geneva Allene Welborn‰
your mother‰ ᆒ‰ Alice Elmyra Smith‰
her mother‰ ᆒ‰ Nellie Mary Henley‰
her mother‰ ᆒ‰ John Merrit Wooldridge‰
her father‰ ᆒMerritt Wooldridge‰
his father‰ ᆒ‰ Chesley Wooldridge‰
his father‰ ᆒ‰ Edward Wooldridge, Jr.‰
his father‰ ᆒ‰ Mary Wooldridge‰
his mother‰ ᆒ‰ Mary Martha Flournoy‰
her mother‰ ᆒJane Gower‰
her mother‰ ᆒ‰ Marian Mary Hatcher‰
her mother‰ ᆒ‰ Capt. Christopher Newport, Admiral of Virginia‰
her father‰ ᆒ‰ Dorothy Jane Newport‰
his mother‰ ᆒ‰ Alice Hatton‰
her motherᆒ‰ Alice Saunders‰
her mother‰ ᆒ‰ Alice Brokesby‰
her mother‰ ᆒ‰ John Shirley, Esq.‰
her father‰ ᆒ‰ Ralph Shirley‰
his father‰ ᆒ‰ Sir Ralph Shirley, Kt.‰
his father‰ ᆒBeatrix Shirley‰
his mother‰ ᆒ‰ Sir Piers (Peter) de Braose‰
her father‰ ᆒ‰ Piers Braose‰
his father‰ ᆒ‰ Mary de Ros, Baroness Brewose‰
his mother‰ ᆒRobert de Ros, Lord of Belvoir‰
her father‰ ᆒ‰ Sir William de Ros‰
his father‰ ᆒ‰ Robert de Ros, 1st Lord Ros of Helmsley‰
his father‰ ᆒEverard de Ros II, Baron of Helmsley‰
his father‰ ᆒ‰ Robert de Ros, 2nd Lord of Hamlake/Helmsley‰
his father
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b)¬â ¬â ¬â ¬â ¬â ¬â ¬â ¬â ROBERT de Ros (-[1162/63]).¬â ·ÄúWalterus Espec et Adelina uxor eius·Äù founded Kirkham Priory, Yorkshire by undated charter, dated to the reign of King Henry I, witnessed by "·Ä¶Everardo de Roos et Roberto de Ross, filiis Audelinⶠsororis meⶠjunioris·Ä¶"[327].¬â "Robertus de Ros" confirmed donations to Rievaulx by "Walteri Espec avunculi mei", for the souls of "·Ä¶fratris mei Everardi", by undated charter, dated to [1147/53], witnessed by "·Ä¶Roberto clerico nepote domini Roberti de Ros·Ä¶Stephano nepote domini Roberti de Ros·Ä¶Thomas de Ros·Ä¶"[328].¬â The Red Book of the Exchequer refers to "Robertus de Ros ii m" in Yorkshire and "Robertus de Ros dimidiam marcam" in Warwickshire, Leicestershire in [1161/62][329].¬â The 1162/63 Pipe Roll names "Rob de Ross", with no further words and no payment, and on the following line "Euerard de Ross" paying ¬£30/6/8 in Yorkshire[330].¬â This unusual arrangement of the names, as well as the large payment, suggest that it represents a record of the death of Robert de Ros and the payment by Everard de Ros of the fine for his inheritance.¬â [m firstly ---.¬â As noted Robert de Ros·Äôs known wife Sibylle de Valoignes is recorded in a manuscript relating to the foundation of Rievaulz abbey as the mother of his son Everard.¬â Everard is named in the 1162/63 Pipe Roll, apparently having already reached the age of majority.¬â However, these two statements appear mutually incompatible because Sibylle de Valoignes is recorded as having had children by her third marriage which is dated to [1181/82].¬â The most likely explanation is that the Rievaulx abbey manuscript is incorrect and that Robert·Äôs son Everard was born from an earlier otherwise unrecorded marriage.]¬â m [secondly] as her first husband, SIBYLLA de Valoignes, daughter of --- (-after 1212, bur Nun Appleton Priory).¬â A manuscript narrating the foundation of Rievaulx Abbey records that ·ÄúRobertum de Roos·Äù married ·ÄúSibillam de Valoniis·Äù, by whom he was father of ·ÄúWillielmum de Roos et Robertum·Äù[331].¬â She married secondly ([1165/66]) William de Percy of Topcliffe, Yorkshire.¬â Her first and second marriages are confirmed by the 1165/66 Pipe Roll which records "Wills de Pci" accounting for ".cccc. m. p uxore Robti de Ross hnda" in Yorkshire[332].¬â ·ÄúWillielmus de Percy·Äù donated Topcliffe church to York Cathedral, for the souls of ·Äúuxoris meⶠSybill⶷Ķfiliorum quoque et filiarum mearum·Äù, by undated charter witnessed by ·ÄúSybilla de Valloniis·Ä¶·Äù[333].¬â It is assumed that the first witness was the donor·Äôs wife but this is not specified in the document.¬â She married thirdly ([1181/82]) Ralph de Albini Brito.¬â Her third marriage is confirmed by the 1181/82 Pipe Roll which records "Radulfus de Alben" accounting for ".cc. m pro ducenda matre Ebrardi de Ros" in Yorkshire[334].¬â Robert & his [first] wife had one child:¬â
i)‰ ‰ ‰ ‰ ‰ ‰ ‰ ‰ ‰ EVERARD de Ros (before [1141/44]-1183).‰ A manuscript narrating the foundation of Rievaulx Abbey records that လRobertum de Roosဝ married လSibillam de Valoniisဝ, by whom he was father of လEverardum de Roosဝ[335].‰ The 1162/63 Pipe Roll names "Rob de Ross", with no further words and no payment, and on the following line "Euerard de Ross" paying £30/6/8 in Yorkshire[336].‰ This unusual arrangement of the names, as well as the large payment, suggest that it represents a record of the death of Robert de Ros and the payment by Everard de Ros of the fine for his inheritance, which in turn suggests that Everard (assumed to be Robertမs son) had already reached the age of majority at that time.‰ However, this dating appears impossible if Everard was the son of Sibylle de Valoignes, who is recorded as having three children by her third husband whom she married in [1181/82].‰ As discussed above, the best explanation for this apparent contradiction is that Everard was born from an otherwise unrecorded earlier marriage of his father.‰ The Red Book of the Exchequer refers to "Everard de Ros cxii s i d" in Yorkshire in [1167/68][337].‰ m ROHESE Trussebut, daughter of WILLIAM Trussebut Lord of Warter, Yorkshire & his wife Albereda dမHarcourt ([1153/58]-[1194/29 Sep 1196]).‰ A manuscript history of the foundation of Barwell Priory names လquatuor sororesဦPagani filiasဦprimogenita Mathildis de DoureဦAliciaဦRoisiaဦAscelinaဝ as the heiresses of လGul. Peverell filius Paganiဝ, adding that Rohese was mother of လAlbreda de Harecourtဝ, mother of လGalfridus Trussebutဦet tres sororesဦRoysia, Hillaria et Agathaဝ[338].‰ The Liber Memorandorum Ecclesie de Bernewelle records that "Albreda de Harecurt" was mother of three sisters "Roysia, Hyllaria et Agatha", adding that Rohese was mother of "Robertus de Ros senior"[339].‰ A manuscript narrating the foundation of Rievaulx Abbey records that လEverardum de Roosဝ married လRosamဝ, by whom he was father of လRobertum de Roos dictum Fursanဝ[340].‰ The Rotuli de Dominabus of 1185 records လuxor Everardi de Ros que fuit filia Willelmi Trussebutဦxxxvဝ and her land လin Strowestoneဝ, adding that she had "ii filios, primogenitus est xiii annorum et terra eius est in custodia Ranulfi de Glanville"[341].‰ Everard & his wife had two children:‰
(a)‰ ‰ ‰ ‰ ‰ ‰ ROBERT de Ros "Fursan" ([1172/73]-before 23 Dec 1226).‰ A manuscript narrating the foundation of Rievaulx Abbey records that လEverardum de Roosဝ married လRosamဝ, by whom he was father of လRobertum de Roos dictum Fursanဝ[342].‰ The Rotuli de Dominabus of 1185 records လuxor Everardi de Ros que fuit filia Willelmi Trussebutဦxxxvဝ and her land လin Strowestoneဝ, adding that she had "ii filios, primogenitus est xiii annorum et terra eius est in custodia Ranulfi de Glanville"[343].‰ The Red Book of the Exchequer, listing scutage payments in [1190/91], records "Robertus de Ros" paying "lx s x d" in Yorkshire[344].‰ The Red Book of the Exchequer, listing scutage payments in [1194/95], records "Robertus de Ros" paying "vi l xviii s" in Yorkshire[345].‰ The Red Book of the Exchequer records "Robertus de Ros" holding parts of one knightမs fee in "Hokintone" in Norfolk, Suffolk, and "baronium de Werc" with two knightsမ fees in Northumberland, in [1210/12][346].‰ The Testa de Nevill includes a writ of King John dated 1212 which records "Robertus de Ros" holding "baroniam de Werke" in Northumberland which had been granted by King Henry I "vel datum per marritagium vel elemosinam vel aliquo modo"[347]. ‰
-‰ ‰ ‰ ‰ ‰ ‰ ‰ ‰ see below.‰
(b)‰ ‰ ‰ ‰ ‰ ‰ PIERS de Ros .‰ The Rotuli de Dominabus of 1185 records လuxor Everardi de Ros que fuit filia Willelmi Trussebutဦxxxvဝ and her land လin Strowestoneဝ, adding that she had "ii filios, primogenitus est xiii annorum et terra eius est in custodia Ranulfi de Glanville"[348].‰
ROBERT de Ros (-[1162/63]). ·ÄúWalterus Espec et Adelina uxor eius·Äù founded Kirkham Priory, Yorkshire by undated charter, dated to the reign of King Henry I, witnessed by "·Ä¶Everardo de Roos et Roberto de Ross, filiis Audelinⶠsororis meⶠjunioris·Ä¶"[Dugdale Monasticon VI, Kirkham Priory, Yorkshire, I, p. 208]. "Robertus de Ros" confirmed donations to Rievaulx by "Walteri Espec avunculi mei", for the souls of "·Ä¶fratris mei Everardi", by undated charter, dated to [1147/53], witnessed by "·Ä¶Roberto clerico nepote domini Roberti de Ros·Ä¶Stephano nepote domini Roberti de Ros·Ä¶Thomas de Ros·Ä¶"[Surtees Society (1889) Cartularium Abbathiⶠde Rievaulxe (Durham) ("Rievaulx"), XLIII, p. 21]. The Red Book of the Exchequer refers to "Robertus de Ros ii m" in Yorkshire and "Robertus de Ros dimidiam marcam" in Warwickshire, Leicestershire in [1161/62][Red Book Exchequer, Part I, Knights fees, pp. 29 and 30]. The 1162/63 Pipe Roll names "Rob de Ross", with no further words and no payment, and on the following line "Euerard de Ross" paying ¬£30/6/8 in Yorkshire[Pipe Roll Society, Vol. VI (1886) The Great Roll of the Pipe for the 9th year of King Henry II (London) ("Pipe Roll 9 Hen II (1162/63)"), p. 5]. This unusual arrangement of the names, as well as the large payment, suggest that it represents a record of the death of Robert de Ros and the payment by Everard de Ros of the fine for his inheritance. [m firstly ---. As noted Robert de Ros·Äôs known wife Sibylle de Valoignes is recorded in a manuscript relating to the foundation of Rievaulz abbey as the mother of his son Everard. Everard is named in the 1162/63 Pipe Roll, apparently having already reached the age of majority. However, these two statements appear mutually incompatible because Sibylle de Valoignes is recorded as having had children by her third marriage which is dated to [1181/82]. The most likely explanation is that the Rievaulx abbey manuscript is incorrect and that Robert·Äôs son Everard was born from an earlier otherwise unrecorded marriage.] m [secondly] as her first husband, SIBYLLA de Valoignes, daughter of --- (-after 1212, bur Nun Appleton Priory). A manuscript narrating the foundation of Rievaulx Abbey records that ·ÄúRobertum de Roos·Äù married ·ÄúSibillam de Valoniis·Äù, by whom he was father of ·ÄúWillielmum de Roos et Robertum·Äù[Dugdale Monasticon V, Rievaulx Abbey, Yorkshire, III, Fundationis et Fundatorum Historia, p. 280]. She married secondly ([1165/66]%29 William de Percy of Topcliffe, Yorkshire. Her first and second marriages are confirmed by the 1165/66 Pipe Roll which records "Wills de Pci" accounting for ".cccc. m. p uxore Robti de Ross hnda" in Yorkshire[Pipe Roll Society, Vol. IX (1888) The Great Roll of the Pipe for the 12th year of King Henry II (London) ("Pipe Roll 12 Hen II (1165/66)"), p. 41]. ·ÄúWillielmus de Percy·Äù donated Topcliffe church to York Cathedral, for the souls of ·Äúuxoris meⶠSybill⶷Ķfiliorum quoque et filiarum mearum·Äù, by undated charter witnessed by ·ÄúSybilla de Valloniis·Ä¶·Äù[Dugdale Monasticon VI.3, St Peter·Äôs Cathedral, York, Yorkshire LXXVIII, p. 1190]. It is assumed that the first witness was the donor·Äôs wife but this is not specified in the document. She married thirdly ([1181/82]) Ralph de Albini Brito. Her third marriage is confirmed by the 1181/82 Pipe Roll which records "Radulfus de Alben" accounting for ".cc. m pro ducenda matre Ebrardi de Ros" in Yorkshire[Pipe Roll Society, Vol. XXXI (1910) The Great Roll of the Pipe for the 28th year of King Henry II (London) ("Pipe Roll 28 Hen II (1181/82)"), p. 46]. Robert & his [first] wife had one child: i) EVERARD de Ros (before [1141/44]-1183).
No children recorded by Sibylla de Valoignes.
"His father Peter, the ancestor of this great and noble family," says Dugdale, "did originally assume his surname in the time of Henry I from that lordship in Holderness called Ros, where he then had his residence, needeth not to be doubted." This Peter de Ros, or Roos, a feudal baron, m. Adeline, one of the sisters and co-heirs of the famous Walter Espec, Lord of the manor of Helmesley, called sometimes Helmeslac, but oftener Hamlake, in the north riding of Yorkshire, and was s. at his decease by his son, Robert de Ros. [Sir Bernard Burke, Dormant, Abeyant, Forfeited and Extinct Peerages, Burke's Peerage, London, 1883, p. 458, Ros, or Roos, Barons Ros]
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sometimes constable, probably to the Count of Aumale, Lord of Holderness. In 1158, and for several years thereafter, he was in charge of King Henry II's works at the castle of Scarborough.
Family Sheet
HUSBAND
Name: Robert Ros Note Born: Abt 11241124-1-1 at Helmsley, Yorkshire, EnglandHelmsley, Yorkshire, England Married: Died:
Father: Peter Ros
Mother: Adeline Espec
WIFE
Name: Sybil Valoines
Born: Abt 1129 at Helmsley, Yorkshire, England
Died:
CHILDREN
Name: Everard Ros
Born: 1153 at Helmsley, Yorkshire, England
Died: Abt 1186
Wife: Rose Trussebut
NOTES
1). New Hist of Northu, Northu 6, 11 37 Magna Charta p. 1 2 1 1 23 Yorks Archa Journal, Yorks Pub A 24 329 Rievau l x Ch a r t p. 21, 360. Archive Record SLC, UT
Robert De ROS
Born: BEF 1130
Died: 1162/3
Notes: sometimes constable, probably to the Count of Aumale, Lord of Holderness. In 1158, and for several years thereafter, he was in charge of King Henry II's works at the castle of Scarborough.
Father: Piers De ROS
Mother: Adeline ESPEC
Married: Sibyl De VALOGNES (b. BEF 1132/3 - d. AFT 1212)
Children:
1. Everard De ROS
Everard de Ros, eldest son of Peter de Ros and Edelina his wife, sister and one of the coheirs of Walter Espec, was succeeded by his younger brother Robert de Ros before 1158.
Notification by William, earl of Albemarle, of his gift to the Cistercian monks of Meaux of the place called Meaux, for the health of the soul of Ingram his brother, also the wood of Routh which he obtained by exchange for other land of more worth from Alan de Ringburgh. ^.1150. Willelmus comes Albemarlie universis sancte ecclesie filiis tarn futuris quam modernis salutem. Sciatis me dedisse monachis Cistercii ordinis locum quendam Melsa vocitatum, de meo hereditario jure, atque in perpetuam elemosinam confirmasse, cum omnibus apperiticiis, videlicet in terris colendis et in pratis et [in] nemoribus et in pascuis et in marasco et tarn integre et bene et libere sicuti egomet earn unquam melius tenui, pro salute auime mee ac fratris mei Hingeram et patris et matris mee, necnon et omnium parentum meorum, et ut ibidem sedes abbatie fiat ac permaneat instituisse. Dedi etiam eidem abbatie totum nemus de Rudhe cum marisco ei proximo in perpetuam possessionem quod juste commutavi ab Alano de Ringeburc dando eidem pro ipso quandam terram eo magis valentem; itaque precor omnes amicos et homines meos quatinus supradictam abbatiam et universes habitantes in ea studiose diligant, consilii et auxilii eis beneficium impendere non cessent, ut universorum ipsius beneficiorum, mecum effecti participes, in eterna tabernacula a Domino recipiantur et a salutari suo. [Testibus], Hingeram fratre comitis, Helia de Mundewille, magistro Warnario, magistro Rogero, Gerardo de Fanencourt, Isaac clerico, Roberto de Ros, Stephano pincerna. Valete.
The two confirmations which follow help us to clear up the tangle in which the lists of the archdeacons of York are involved. The attestation of John Talvace, treasurer of York, appointed in 1154 and consecrated bishop of Poictiers in 1163, and that of John Lethold, who became archdeacon in 1 1 59 or 1 1 60, provide a limit of date for these instruments. As we have noted elsewhere of the period immediately after 1160, that there were two archdeacons of York, namely Ralph de Aulnai and John son of Lethold, 4 so here also within the period of 6 years prior to 1 160 we have two archdeacons, contemporary with Bartholomew, archdeacon of Richmond, namely Ralph Baro and Robert Butivillein who attested a confirmation of Robert de Ros, in or about 1153, and both of whom attested Roger de Mowbray's grant of Welburn.
In 1212 Sibyl de Valoignes, relict of Robert de Ros (d. 1163), held 2 fees in Wootton, co. Line., (of Eustace de Vescy, who held) of Ralph de Mortemer.
Everard de Ros, eldest son of Peter de Ros and Edelina his wife, sister and one of the coheirs of Walter Espec, was succeeded by his younger brother Robert de Ros before 1158.
Notification by William, earl of Albemarle, of his gift to the Cistercian monks of Meaux of the place called Meaux, for the health of the soul of Ingram his brother, also the wood of Routh which he obtained by exchange for other land of more worth from Alan de Ringburgh. ^.1150. Willelmus comes Albemarlie universis sancte ecclesie filiis tarn futuris quam modernis salutem. Sciatis me dedisse monachis Cistercii ordinis locum quendam Melsa vocitatum, de meo hereditario jure, atque in perpetuam elemosinam confirmasse, cum omnibus apperiticiis, videlicet in terris colendis et in pratis et [in] nemoribus et in pascuis et in marasco et tarn integre et bene et libere sicuti egomet earn unquam melius tenui, pro salute auime mee ac fratris mei Hingeram et patris et matris mee, necnon et omnium parentum meorum, et ut ibidem sedes abbatie fiat ac permaneat instituisse. Dedi etiam eidem abbatie totum nemus de Rudhe cum marisco ei proximo in perpetuam possessionem quod juste commutavi ab Alano de Ringeburc dando eidem pro ipso quandam terram eo magis valentem; itaque precor omnes amicos et homines meos quatinus supradictam abbatiam et universes habitantes in ea studiose diligant, consilii et auxilii eis beneficium impendere non cessent, ut universorum ipsius beneficiorum, mecum effecti participes, in eterna tabernacula a Domino recipiantur et a salutari suo. [Testibus], Hingeram fratre comitis, Helia de Mundewille, magistro Warnario, magistro Rogero, Gerardo de Fanencourt, Isaac clerico, Roberto de Ros, Stephano pincerna. Valete.
The two confirmations which follow help us to clear up the tangle in which the lists of the archdeacons of York are involved. The attestation of John Talvace, treasurer of York, appointed in 1154 and consecrated bishop of Poictiers in 1163, and that of John Lethold, who became archdeacon in 1 1 59 or 1 1 60, provide a limit of date for these instruments. As we have noted elsewhere of the period immediately after 1160, that there were two archdeacons of York, namely Ralph de Aulnai and John son of Lethold, 4 so here also within the period of 6 years prior to 1 160 we have two archdeacons, contemporary with Bartholomew, archdeacon of Richmond, namely Ralph Baro and Robert Butivillein who attested a confirmation of Robert de Ros, in or about 1153, and both of whom attested Roger de Mowbray's grant of Welburn.
In 1212 Sibyl de Valoignes, relict of Robert de Ros (d. 1163), held 2 fees in Wootton, co. Line., (of Eustace de Vescy, who held) of Ralph de Mortemer. Kuollut 1163. Lord of Holderness. Syntynyt 1117 Helmsley, Yorkshire, England.
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