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Personal data ??? Joan FITZGERALD (Bryan) Countess of Ormond 

• She was born in the year 1514 in Kinsale, County Cork, Ireland.Sources 4, 5, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 13, 15

  Attention: Was younger than 16 years (10) when child (Richard Butler) was born (??-??-1524) .

  Attention: Was younger than 16 years (4) when child (Ellen Butler) was born (??-??-1518) .

  Attention: Married (??-??-1511) before birth (??-??-1514).

  Attention: Age at marriage (??-??-1511) below 16 years (0).

  Attention: Age at marriage (??-??-1529) below 16 years (15).

  Attention: Was younger than 16 years (6) when child (Piers Butler) was born (??-??-1520) .

• Alternative: She was born on June 1, 1509 in Desmond, Ireland.Source 15
• Alternative: She was born in the year 1521 in Chidington, Bucks, England.Source 15
• Alternative: She was born in the year 1527 in Desmond Castle, Kinsale, Cork, Ireland.Source 15
• Alternative: She was born on June 1, 1509 in Kinsale, Cork, Ireland.Sources 3, 6
• Resident: USA.Source 15
• She died on January 2, 1569 in Ormond, Limerick, Ireland, she was 55 years old.Sources 4, 5, 9, 10, 11, 13, 15
• Alternative: She died on January 2, 1565 in Co, Kilkenny, Ireland, she was 51 years old.Source 15
• Alternative: She died on January 2, 1565 in Ormonde, Kilkenny, Ireland, she was 51 years old.Source 15
• Alternative: She died on January 2, 1565 in Ormonde, Kilkenny, Ireland, she was 51 years old.Source 15
• Alternative: She died on January 2, 1565 in Ormonde, Ireland, she was 51 years old.Source 15
• Alternative: She died on January 2, 1565 in Ormonde, Kilkenny, Ireland, she was 51 years old.Source 15
• Alternative: She died on January 2, 1565 in Ormonde, Kilkenny, Ireland, she was 51 years old.Source 11
• Alternative: She died on January 2, 1565 in Kilkenny, Ireland (Was Osraighe and later Ossory, Ireland), she was 51 years old.Sources 3, 6
• She is buried in Limerick, County Limerick, Ireland.Sources 9, 11
• A child of James Fitzmaurice Fitzgerald and Amy Awnyanne (Mac-I-Brien-Ara) (MACI BRIEN ARA) O·ÄôBRIEN
• This information was last updated on June 20, 2020.

Household of ??? Joan FITZGERALD (Bryan) Countess of Ormond

(1) She is married to Francis ·ÄúThe Vicar of Hell·Äô BRYAN.

Marriage
Place: Chidington, Bucks, England
Marriage
Date: 1548
Place: Buckinghamshire, England
Marriage
Date: 1548
Place: Buckinghamshire, England,
Marriage
Date: 1548
Place: Buckinghamshire, England,
Marriage
Date: 01 Jun 1507
Place: England
Marriage
Date: 1548
Place: Chidington, Buckinghamshire, England
Marriage
Date: 1548
Place: , Buckinghamshire, , England
Marriage
Date: 1540
Place: , Clare, , Ireland, ,, ,

Marriage
Date: Bef. 28 Aug 1548
Place: Chidington, Bucks, England
Marriage
Date: 1540
Place: Clare, Ireland

They got married in the year 1548 at Buckinghamshire, England, she was 34 years old.Sources 5, 16

Child(ren):

1. Francis BRYAN  1549-1640 

• The couple has common ancestors.



(2) She is married to James Butler 9th Earl Ormonde.

They got married.




(3) She is married to James "The Lame" Butler.


Marriage
Date: 1529
Place: England

They got married on December 21, 1532 at Kilcash, 5319, Ireland, she was 18 years old.




Child(ren):

1. Ellen Butler  1518-1565
2. Piers Butler  1520-1578
3. Richard Butler  1524-1598
4. Thomas Ormonde Ossory Butler  1531-1614
5. Walter Butler  1532-1650
6. John Butler  ± 1540-1570 


• The couple has common ancestors.



(4) She is married to Gerald Fitzjames Desmond XIV Fitzgerald.

They got married about 1551.




(5) She is married to James Desmond Fitzgerald.

They got married in the year 1511.




(6) She is married to James 9Th Earl of Ormonde Butler.


Marriage
Date: 21 Dec 1532
Place: Kilcash, 5319, Ireland

They got married in the year 1529 at England, she was 15 years old.




(7) She is married to Francis Debrienne.

They got married in the year 1548 at Chidington, Buckinghamshire, England, she was 34 years old.




(8) She is married to James Butler.

They got married before December 21, 1532.




Notes about ??? Joan FITZGERALD (Bryan) Countess of Ormond



Joan Fitzgerald, Duchess of Ormond is your 15th great grandmother.
You
¬â€ ¬â€ ·Üí¬â€ Geneva Allene Welborn (Smith)
your mother¬â€ ·Üí¬â€ Henry Loyd Smith
her father¬â€ ·Üí¬â€ Edgar Jackson Smith
his father¬â€ ·Üí¬â€ Margaret Jane Houser
his mother¬â€ ·Üí¬â€ Susannah Houser
her mother¬â€ ·Üí¬â€ Sarah ·ÄúSally·Äù Moore
her mother¬â€ ·Üí¬â€ Frederick K Jones
her father¬â€ ·Üí¬â€ William Jones
his father¬â€ ·Üí¬â€ Ann Jones
his mother¬â€ ·Üí¬â€ George Hamilton
her father¬â€ ·Üí¬â€ 6th Earl of Abercorn James Hamilton, 6th Earl of Abercorn
his father¬â€ ·Üí¬â€ Colonel James Hamilton
his father¬â€ ·Üí¬â€ Mary Hamilton
his mother¬â€ ·Üí¬â€ Thomas Butler, Viscount Thurles
her father¬â€ ·Üí¬â€ Walter Butler, 11th Earl of Ormond
his father¬â€ ·Üí¬â€ John Butler, 10th Earl of Ormund
his father¬â€ ·Üí¬â€ Joan Fitzgerald, Duchess of Ormond
his mother

Lady Joan Fitzgerald, Duchess of Ormond is your 12th great grandmother.
You
¬â€  ·Üí Geneva Allene Welborn
your mother ·Üí Henry Loyd Smith, Sr.
her father ·Üí Edith Lucinda Smith
his mother ·Üí William M LEE, Will
her father ·Üí Britton Lee
his father ·Üí William Samuel Lee
his father ·Üí Lemuel Samuel Lee
his father ·Üí Edward Lee, Sr.
his father ·Üí Mary Bryan
his mother ·Üí William Bryan, I
her father ·Üí John Smith Bryan
his father ·Üí William Bryan
his father ·Üí Sir Francis Bryan, II, Justicar of Ireland
his father ·Üí Lady Joan Fitzgerald, Duchess of Ormond
his mother

* ***********************************
* Was Francis Bryan II the son of Francis I and Joan? *
Did Francis I rape Joan, or was Francis II the illegitimate son of Gerald FitzJames (FitzGerald) , 14th Earl of Desmond ?? who became Joan·Äôs 3rd husband immediately following Francis I untimely death?
* ***********************************
"Joan, first married to James, Earl of Ormond ; secondly to Sir Francis Bryan, Knight-Marshal and L. J. of Ireland, who dying at Clonmell 2 February, 1549, without issue she married lastly Gerald, Earl of Defmond, and dying in 1564, was buried at Aflteaton."
The Peerage of Ireland: a Genealogical History of the Present Nobility of That Kingdom, Vol. 1, 1789
Subject: Nobility, Heraldry
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Publication date: 1789
Publisher: Dublin, J. Moore
Author: Lodge, John, 1692-1774, Archdall, Mervyn, 1723-1791, Pre-1801 Imprint Collection (Library of Congress) DLC
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Notes: Another issue of this work appeared in 1789 with the imprint: London: printed for G. G. J. and J. Robinson. - English Short Title Catalog, ESTCN20017. - Includes indicies. - Last leaf of each volume bears corrections and additions; penultimate leaf of vol. 7 bears directions to the binder. - Reproduction of original from the Huntington Library. - With a list of subscribers in vol. 1,
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Lady Joan Fitzgerald, Duchess of Ormond

Joan Fitzgerald
Gender:
Female
Birth:
1509
Desmond Castle, Kinsale, County Cork, Munster, Ireland
Death:
January 2, 1565 (56)
Askeaton, County Limerick, Munster, Ireland
Place of Burial:
Askeaton, Limerick, Limerick, Ireland
Immediate Family:
Daughter of James FitzMaurice Fitzgerald, 10th Earl of Desmond and Amy O'Brien

Wife of
James "The Lame" Butler, 9th Earl of Ormond;
Sir Francis Bryan I "The Vicar of Hell", Lord Chief Justice of Ireland
Gerald FitzJames Fitzgerald, 14th Earl of Desmond

Mother of
Thomas Butler, 10th Earl of Ormond;
Walter Butler, of Nodstown;
Sir Edmund Butler, of Cloughgrenan;
James Butler, of Duisk;
Ellen Roche (Butler);
John Butler, of Kilcash;
Pierce Butler;
Richard Butler;
Mary Ann Butler;
Annie Butler;

Sir Francis Bryan, II, Justicar of Ireland;
Elizabeth Bryan;
Edward John Bryan;

James FitzGerald, 15th Earl of Desmond
Margaret Fitz-Gerald

Sister of Lady Honora Butler (Fitzgerald)

https://www.geni.com/people/Lady-Joan-Fitzgerald-Duchess-of-Ormond/6000000001906202107

Lady Joan FitzGerald Age: 19 (born 20 September 1791) Married? No
Religion: Catholic Political affiliation: Cavalier
Personality: A confident and highly intelligent young woman, Lady Joan is a decidedly far more capable character than her whiny older brother Richard, and makes no secret of the fact. However, she can come across as arrogant and cocky, especially to her peers, and even worse she has at least inherited her father's spitefulness - she never has seemed capable of taking any offense, no matter how minor, lightly and will go out of her way to punish whoever she feels is responsible, contrary to whatever her instincts and reason may be telling her. She greatly resents the restrictions imposed on her for her gender, and considers herself the rightful heir to the Duchy of Desmond; needless to say, she doesn't get along with her brother.
Biography: Born 20 September 1791, Lady Joan is the only surviving daughter of the 6th Duke and his wife Abigail. Lady Joan received a fine education from an early age and displayed prodigal abilities by the age of seven, but the constant praise showered upon her by her parents got to her head as it did with her brother, making her overconfident in her abilities and look down on those she deems inferior, and a childhood rivalry with her brother Richard has developed into a thoroughly venomous relationship, which is in no way helped by Joan considering herself the more capable heir to the Geraldine titles and estates - and rubbing this in her brother's face at every opportunity. She hates the McCarthys almost as much as her father and brother do, having personally seen the remains of her mother left at the castle gates by a McCarthy messenger, and will readily admit that a desire to fight the clan is a driving force behind her attempts to be recognized as the heir to the Waterford Geraldines.
resolve Birth Date c.1514 -21

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