Anderson Family Lives 2017 » Charles Thomas Marriner (1850-1912)

Personal data Charles Thomas Marriner 

• He was born on October 17, 1850 in Rochester, Kent, England.Sources 1, 2, 3, 4, 5
• Resident:
• on April 2, 1911: Halkyn, Flintshire, Wales.Source 3
• in the year 1881: St George in the East, London, England.Source 5
• in the year 1891: St Phillips, St Giles, St Giles, London, England.Source 2
• in the year 1881: St George in the East, London, England.Source 5
• in the year 1891: St Phillips, St Giles, St Giles, London, England.Source 2
• (Fact 1) in Whitesmith (silversmith).Sources 1, 4
• (Fact 2) on December 13, 1865 in Whitesmith apprentice to father Henry Wm. Marriner at Rochester.Sources 1, 4
• (Fact 3) in Poet. Wrote "Sunday Musings By the Seaside".Sources 1, 4
• (Fact 4) in Had at least one daughter who had 3 kids.Sources 1, 4
• (Fact 5) in Poet. Wrote "Sunday Musings By the Seaside".
• (unknown) on May 12, 1872 in Southwark, St George the Martyr, England.Source 8
• He died on December 4, 1912 in Marriner's Rest, Hele Beach, Ilfracombe, Devon, he was 62 years old.Sources 1, 3, 4
• Alternative: He died in the year 1910 in Marriner's Rest, Hele Beach, Ilfracombe, Devon, he was 59 years old.Sources 4, 9
• Alternative: He died in the year 1910 in Marriner's Rest, Hele Beach, Ilfracombe, Devon, he was 59 years old.Sources 4, 9
• A child of Henry William Marriner and Elizabeth Amy Mace

Household of Charles Thomas Marriner

(1) He is married to Eliza Ann Rist.

They got married on May 17, 1872 at England, he was 21 years old.Source 10

Child(ren):

1. Emma Elizabeth Alice Marriner  1874-1951 
2. Mattilda J. M. Marriner  1876-????

(2) He had a relationship with Leah Jane Pettman.

Child(ren):

1. Mildred Marriner  

Notes about Charles Thomas Marriner

Charles and his wife Eliza are shown in the 1891 census with their two daughters Emma and Matilda Marriner. What is also showing right below them is a Mary Ann Moss who is labeled as mother and more children under her with ditto written for surname. The transcriber assumed that they were also Marriner children so that is how they show up in a search. However, after much research I have found that their surname is Moss and you can find them when you do searches on their names. I found a Mary Moss in the 1881 census married to a James Moss and it shows the same children except for the addition of one more child who was the eldest. I tried to post a note stating the incorrect transcription of surnames of her children and to be sure to use Moss and not Marriner for their surname.

Bio found on Geni:

About Marriner, Charles Thomas

1861 Census: Living with parents as scholar at St. Margarets Banks,Chatham.

Charles Thomas Marriner was indentured as an apprentice Whitesmith to hisfather on 13 December 1865 for 7 years, but joined the MetropolitanPolice before completing his apprenticeship. His fathers death in 1868probably cut his training short. Per Howard Marriners inquiry on6/23/03 to Ray Seal of Metropolitan Police records section: CharlesThomas Marriner, warrant No. 55296, joined the Met on April 15, 1872(Police Constable per marriage certificate May 17, 1872 living atHashman? Street Borough) and retired early at age 41 in 1892 due toChronic Laryngitis (note: possibly due to the smoke of Londons coalfires). Pension: 66. 11s 3d p.a. (per year).

Info from Retirement Record Form Ref: MEPO 21/0022. August 1892:

Age: 41; Height: 5 ft 8 3/4 inches; Hair: Dark, turning grey; Eyes:hazel; complexion: Dark; No identifying marks; Born: Rochester, Kent 17Oct. 1850; Father: Henry Marriner; Mother: Elizabeth Marriner; Date ofJoining the Force: at Gt. Scotland Yard on 15 April 1872; Worked at: M(Southwark) 15 April 1872 to 17 April 1873-General Constable; N(Islington; and Thames Division) 18 April 1873 to 29 May 1876; T(Kensington) 30 May 1876 to 22 June 1880; A (Whitehall) 23 June 1880 to27 April 1883; K (Stepney) 28 April 1883 to 16 March 1887; P (Camberwell)Sub Inspector 17 March 1887 to 27 Nov 1887; G (Finsbury) 28 Nov 1887 to13 Sept 1888; N (Islington: and Thames Division) 14 Sept 1888 to 15 Oct1888; M (Southwark) 16 Oct 1888 to 4 Aug 1889. No injuries during hisservice. An Inspector of Police was a civilian appointed to make sure thepolice were doing their jobs correctly. A Police Inspector was apoliceman. Wife: Eliza Marriner. Residence at retirement: DevonshireCrescent, Old Kent Road, London. Note: Devonshire Street was renamedafter 1936 as Devon Street and Devonshire Grove. He was a police sergeantin 1881 census.

There was a rule at that time that all officers had to live withinwalking distance of the Police Station at which they were based. Thismeans he served near the Old Kent Road which is south of the RiverThames-just over the river from the Whitechapel area where Jack theRipper was operating at the time he was serving. More info at PRO RuskinAve, Kew, Richmond, Surrey TW9 4DU (Tel +44 (0) 20 8392 5200.

His wife died at age 44 of Ovarian Cancer on 28 Dec 1895 while theywere living at 21 Devonshire St., Old Kent Road, London.

He remarried in 1896 as a widower and Superannuated Police Inspector.Both he and 2nd wife Leah Jane Pettman were living at the time in theTerminus Hotel, Temple Gate, Bristol.

In the 1901 census he was living at 16 Rorkes Drift, Charlcombe (nearBristol), Bath, Somerset with Mildred Shearman, step-daughter, aged 17,Occupation: Clerk at Somerset Dairy, born at Stratford, Essex, and hiswife Leah Jane Pettman. Mary Ann Pettman (sister-in-law) aged 32, bornBermondsey, London, was visiting their home.

He lived for a while at Marriners Rest, Hele Beach, Ilfracombe,Devon and wrote poetry such as Sunday Musings By the Seaside. Thewhole of the useful Household Goods and Furniture of Mariners Rest,Hele Beach, Ilfracombe were auctioned off by the Certificated Bailiff onMay 23rd, 1907. The home had 3 sitting rooms, 7 bedrooms, conservatoryand kitchen. It is not known if Charles owned Marriners Rest at the timeof the auction although its possible it may have been owned by his wifeand the estate sold it upon her death. This is only speculation atpresent.

On Dec 4 1912 Charles Thomas Marriner died at 18 Gamlin St., Rhyl,(St. Asaph-a small cathedral town just inland from Rhyl) a seaside resorton the North Wales coast at age 63 of Malignant Disease of the Liver. Hisstep-daughter Mildred (Shearman or Shearmur?) Bosomworth of 76 Bridge Rd,Litherland, Liverpool made the death report.

NOTE: Family notes (probably an error?) conflict with the researcheddeath of Charles Thomas Marriner. The notes read that he was buried atWadsworth, near Hebden Bridge, Yorkshire, at Good Grave Farm in 1910.

Whitesmith (silversmith)

1850-1881 Census shows him age 30 born On The Pacific Ocean, At Sea.

Dec 13, 1865-Whitesmith apprentice to father Henry Wm. Marriner atRochester.

Poet. Wrote Sunday Musings By the Seaside. Had at least twodaughters-one had 3 kids.

1881-Living at 6 Little Turner St., St. George In East, London.

1891-Census: 3 Marlborough Rd., St. Giles, near Old Kent Rd. So. London.born in Rochester, Kent, England. Occupation: Inspector of Police.

1896-Widower when he remarried; Superannuated Inspector of Police.

1901-Census: living at Rorkes Drift, Charlcombe, Frome, Somerset.

1912-died at St. Asaph, North Wales? or is this someone else? St. Asaphis small cathedral town in Welsh County of Flint (pt of Clwyd)

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