Ancestral Trails 2016 » VALENTINE CHICHE (1430-< 1461)

Personal data VALENTINE CHICHE 

  • He was born in the year 1430 in Goodnestone Manor, Tonbridge, Kent.
  • He died before July 22, 1461 in Goodnestone Manor, Tonbridge, Kent.
  • A child of JOHN CHICHE and ALIANOR BELERS

Household of VALENTINE CHICHE

He is married to PHILLIPA CHICHELEY.

They got married in the year 1454 at Tonbridge, Hildenborough, Kent, he was 24 years old.


Child(ren):

  1. Emeline CHICHE  1455-1487 
  2. MARGARET CHICHE  1454-1500 


Notes about VALENTINE CHICHE

VALENTINE CHICHE dead by 22nd July 1461

He was a son of John Chiche. There have been a number of different versions as to how he fits into the pedigree. Some versions say he had a son Valentine (or Alan), who had a daughter Emelyn who married Sir Thomas Kempe. As far as I can see the following is correct and ties in with the pedigree drawn up by the College of Arms in 1840 or thereabouts of my family, descended from Amos Jacob MD of Ashford (died 1688). It took the descent through female lines back to Sir Robert Chicheley.

An entry in the Patent Roll of 22nd July 1461 is a grant to Phillipa, late the wife of Valentine Chiche, Esquire, tenant in chief of Henry VI. She is granted the custody of all his Lordships, manors, lands and other possessions during the minority of Margaret, his daughter and heir, with the custody and marriage of the latter and of the like during the minority of the next heir should she die a minor as if the child with which she herself is pregnant should be male, and so from heir to heir. In the event, he did not have a male heir, but another daughter named Emelyn. Margaret and Emelyn are named as his heirs in Chancery Proceedings (PRO, Early Chancery Proceedings, C4 34/128).

It is through Phillipa that I and many others can trace their descent back to Sir Robert Chicheley, knight, Lord Mayor of London, and brother of Henry Chicheley, Archbishop of Canterbury, the founder of All Souls College, Oxford. This made my ancestors founders kin and entitled, as per the founder's charter, eligible to become Fellows of All Souls. This benefit has long since been revoked, as it would have proved impratical, there being far too many descendants who could have claimed founder's kin. Nevertheless, a member of my family did succeed in making use of it. A book was published in two volumes, the first in 1765, titled 'Stemata Chicheleana' , published at Oxford by the Clarendon Press. It gives pedigrees of many descended from Sir Robert Chicheley and William his brother. However, even at this time murmerings against this privilege were rife.

Margaret, the elder daughter, married in 1475 John Judd, the father of Sir Andrew Judd, Lord Mayor of London. Emelyn married Sir Thomas Kempe, knight, of Ollantigh in Kent.

As stated, there exists an undated Chancery Petition by them , as 'cousins' and heirs of John Chiche, daughters and heirs of Valentine Chiche, son and heir of John Chiche, who held the manor of Goodnestone as of fee against John Chirche and Thomas Barham, now living, with others who are now dead, and who held the manor as feoffees to the use of John Chyche and his heirs. Perhaps they renaged on their obligation to John. I have not viewed this petition as yet (PRO, Early Chancery Proceedings, C4 34/128).

We know Valentine died between 28th January 1460, when an entry in the Patent Roll informs us he appointed a commissioner of array to resist the rebels, adherents of Richard Earl of Warwick, who of late entered the port of Sandwich, and the 22nd July 1461.
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Ancestors (and descendant) of VALENTINE CHICHE

THOMAS V CHICHE
1360-> 1433
ALICE ELLIS
± 1375-????
RALPH BELERS
1380-????
JOHN CHICHE
1395-> 1447

VALENTINE CHICHE
1430-< 1461

1454

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