"His probable age would make it unlikely that he was grand-son of William Dormer. Dormer died 1506, but probably not very old, as his brother. Sir Michael, was Sheriff of London 1529, Lord Mayor 1541, and died 20 Sep 1545. Sir John had a grand-son born as early as 1523. Sir John had a
grand-son born as early as 1523. If Sir John, whose home was Aylesbury, was the John born in 1470, he was only fifty-three at he birth of this grand-child, and was even seventy-five at the Bath of Sir Michael in 1545. The genealogical situation is here quite interesting. In 1485 Richard dies, leaving his brother John as his heir. In 1506, William Dormer remembers Richard and
John, and we shall find, further on, that Richard of Dundridge, in 1552, dies leaving a brother John. The last Richard and John were ancestors to most of the Baldwins of America."
Source: Baldwin, Charles Candee, The Baldwin Genealogy, from 1500 - 1881, The Leader Printing Company, Cleveland, Ohio, (1881), pp. 16-17.
The will of William Dormer, dated 22 Sep 1506, directed him
to be bur. in the chancel at West Wicombe, and gave his "dau.
Johan Alburgh 10 marks, to my dau. Margeri Deane 10 marks, to
my [dau. evidently omitted by the transcriber of the
will] Agnes Baldwin 10 marks, and to William Baldwin, my
godson, £10: to John Baldwin the younger 10 marks, to Alice
Baldweyn 10 marks, to Richard Baldweyn 10 marks, to Pernell
Colyngborne 10 marks, to John Dormer 10 marks, to Henry Hunt
10 marks, to Lettice Dormer 10 marks; to Henry, son of Thomas
Deane, 40s; to Agnes, my wife, £300; to son Robert £800, and all
my years to come in my farm of West Wicombe." His executors
were his wife and son Robert; overseers, John Baldwin the older,
and John Colyngborne. The will was proved 7 Oct 1506.
The will of William Dormer in The Baldwin Gen GS 929.273 B193bd p 10-11
Oxon T1 p 503-11
Eng Pub AC vol 65 p 169
Family record of Joseph A Steele
The Baldwin Gen from 1500
Note - "The Dormers were an old and wealthy family, whose line continued after and rose to an Earldom." The Baldwin Genealogy
will proved 7 October 1506, so he died before that day.
(1) He is married to Agnes Jane Launcelyn.
Wife possibly named Agnes Lancelyn,
They got married in the year 1478 at Wycombe, Buckshire, England.
Child(ren):
(2) He had a relationship with Agnes Jane Lancelyn.
Child(ren):
"The Dormers were an old and wealthy family, whose line continued
after and rose to an Earldom. Sir Robert, brother of Agnes, Sheriff" of Beds and Bucks, was knighted in 1527, and d. 1552. His son Robert, Baron as Lord Dormer, of Wenge, d. 1616. His grand-son Robert became Viscount of Ascot and Earl Caernaron; killed 1643. His sister Elizabeth md. Somerset, Lord Herbert and Marquis of Worcester. William, of West Wycombe, md. Agnes, dau. of Sir John Lancelyn, a French knight; he died 1506. The account ordinarily received of Sir John is, as I have said, that he was son of William, who md. Agnes Dormer; but the account of John, given in one of the Harleian Mss. (No. 1533, Vol. 15), says he md. a dau. of William Dormer.
The will of William Dormer, dated 22 Sep 1506, directed him to be buried in the chancel at West Wicombe, and gave his 'dau. Johan Alburgh 10 marks, to my dau. Margeri Deane 10 marks, to my [dau. evidently omitted by the transcriber of the will] Agnes Baldwin 10 marks, and to William Baldwin, my
godson, £10: to John Baldwin the younger 10 marks, to Alice Baldweyn 10 marks, to Richard Baldweyn 10 marks, to Pernell Colyngborne 10 marks, to John Dormer 10 marks, to Henry Hunt 10 marks, to Lettice Dormer 10 marks; to Henry, son of Thomas Deane, 40s; to Agnes, my wife, £300; to son Robert £800, and all my years to come in my farm of West Wicombe.' His executors
were his wife and son Robert; overseers, John Baldwin the older, and John Colyngborne. The will was proved 7 Oct 1506. The inquisition post mortem of Sir John (1546) shows he had a son William, who md. Mary Tryingham, and d. before that, leaving a widow but no issue; a dau. Agnes or Ann, who md. Robert Packiugton, mercer of London, and had a son Thomas, born about 1523; a dau. Petronella or Parnell, who md. first Sir Thomas Ramsey,
and second Burlacy; she had a son John, born abt. 1528. Sir John also had a dau. Alice. A probable supposition would be that in the will of William Dormer, Sir John was John the elder. Agnes was his wife; William the godson, the William who d. bef. 1546; Alice the dau. of Sir John and Richard and John Baldwin, perhaps children of Sir John, who died young. The error of
making Sir John son of William, said to have md. Agnes Dormer, arose from an erroneous transcript of the Dormer will, in the Collin Peerage, more than a century ago. John Colyngborne, the other overseer, was a son-in-law, having md. Parnell, dau. of William Dormer."
Source: Baldwin, Charles Candee, The Baldwin Genealogy, from 1500 - 1881, The Leader Printing Company, Cleveland, Ohio, (1881), pp. 14-15.
Red book #6, sec 2, chart 35&91. Sometimes called "Gent." Baldwin Mas from research done by Col Jos L Chester of London. Rearch on Baldwin by A Vere Woodman, Esq.
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