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Persoonlijke gegevens Adèle "von Flandern" de Vermandois gravin van Vlaanderen 

• Roepnaam is von Flandern.
• Zij is geboren rond 910 TO ABT 915 in Comté de Vermandois (Present Département de l'Aisne) (Present région Picardie), Royaume des Francs de l'Ouest (Present France)(Present région Picardie).
• Gedoopt (op 8-jarige leeftijd of later) door het priesterschapsgezag van de LDS-kerk.
• Alternatief: Gedoopt (op 8-jarige leeftijd of later) door het priesterschapsgezag van de LDS-kerk.
• Alternatief: Gedoopt (op 8-jarige leeftijd of later) door het priesterschapsgezag van de LDS-kerk op 13 oktober 1928.
• Alternatief: Gedoopt (op 8-jarige leeftijd of later) door het priesterschapsgezag van de LDS-kerk op 13 oktober 1928.
• Alternatief: Gedoopt (op 8-jarige leeftijd of later) door het priesterschapsgezag van de LDS-kerk op 13 oktober 1928.
• Alternatief: Gedoopt (op 8-jarige leeftijd of later) door het priesterschapsgezag van de LDS-kerk op 13 oktober 1928.
• Alternatief: Gedoopt (op 8-jarige leeftijd of later) door het priesterschapsgezag van de LDS-kerk op 13 oktober 1928.
• Alternatief: Gedoopt (op 8-jarige leeftijd of later) door het priesterschapsgezag van de LDS-kerk op 13 oktober 1928.
• Alternatief: Gedoopt (op 8-jarige leeftijd of later) door het priesterschapsgezag van de LDS-kerk op 7 januari 1936.
• Alternatief: Gedoopt (op 8-jarige leeftijd of later) door het priesterschapsgezag van de LDS-kerk op 29 januari 1993.
• Zij is overleden op 10 oktober 960 in Bruges, Comté de Flandre (Present West Vlaanderen) (Present Gewest Vlaanderen), Royaume des Francs de l'Ouest (within present Belgium)Bruges, (Present Gewest Vlaanderen).
• Zij is begraven rond 960 in Abbaye de St PierreGhent, Flemish Region, Belgium.
• Een kind van Heribert II de Vermandois en Adela / Liegarde / Hildebrante de Neustria
• Deze gegevens zijn voor het laatst bijgewerkt op 5 juni 2012.

Gezin van Adèle "von Flandern" de Vermandois gravin van Vlaanderen

Zij is getrouwd met Arnout I «de Grote» van Vlaanderen.

Zij zijn getrouwd rond 934 te Comté de Flandre (Present West Vlaanderen) (Present Gewest Vlaanderen), Royaume des Francs de l'Ouest (within present Belgium)(Present Gewest Vlaanderen).

Kind(eren):

1. Luitgard van Vlaanderen  ± 935-962 
2. Boudewijn III de Jonge van Vlaanderen  ± 940-962 
3. Hildegarde van Vlaanderen  ± 920-990 
4. Elstrude van Vlaanderen  ± 945-± 972 

Notities over Adèle "von Flandern" de Vermandois gravin van Vlaanderen

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Adele of Vermandois
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Adele of Vermandois (910-960) was a daughter of Herbert II of Vermandois with his first wife, Adela. She married Count Arnulf I of Flanders in 934 and had four children:

* Luitgard, married Wichmann, Count of Ghent
* Egbert, died 953
* Baldwin III of Flanders
* Elftrude, married Siegfried, Count of Guînes

Through her descendants Matilda of Flanders and Henry I of England, she was an ancestor to the present-day British royal family.

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Grevinne av Vermandois.

Adele of Vermandois
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Adele of Vermandois (910-960) was a daughter of Herbert II of Vermandois with his first wife, Adela. She married Count Arnulf I of Flandersin 934 and had four children:

Luitgard, married Wichmann, Count of Ghent
Egbert, died 953
Baldwin III of Flanders
Elftrude, married Siegfried, Count of Guînes
Through her descendants Matilda of Flanders and Henry I of England, she was an ancestor to the present-day British royal family.

Basic Life Information
Adele married Arnulf the elder, 889-27/3/965, Count of Flanders, Hrolf Turstain's cousin, whose men assassinated Duke William Longsword. Arnulf was the son of Baldwin 11, 863-10/9/918, Count of Flanders, Guillaume de Bec's cousin, and Aelfthryth de Wessex, 868-929, daughter of King Alfred the Great of England, 849-26/10/899, and Ealhswith of Gaini, 852-5/12/905.

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She was the daughter of the count of Vermandois.

She was the daughter of the count of Vermandois.

She was the daughter of the count of Vermandois.

She was the daughter of the count of Vermandois.

She was the daughter of the count of Vermandois.

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m. 943, ARNOLD I, d. 27 Mar. 963, (162-18), the Old, --;Count of Flanders. (Generations 2-9: G.A. Moriarty Chart of the Robertins in NEHGR 99:130-131, --- Falaise Roll, 186-187---.

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!Name: Adele, Alice, Adelaine

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!Name: Adele, Alice, Adelaine

!Name: Adele, Alice, Adelaine

[2369] WSHNGT.ASC file (Geo Washington Ahnentafel) # 34881539 = 919685, d 958/960

DUDLE.GED Adele, d abt 958

DEAT SOUR 1CHARL.TXT (Compuserve)

Marriage and the Family in the Middle Ages, Frances and Joseph Gies says her son was Baldwin II, p. 130;Adele or Alix or Athele - ROYAL.JRW (Compuserve) Alix de Vermandois - Americans of Royal Descent, Charles H. Browning, p. 210

Steve Clare papers: Alice of Vermandois & Valois

http://uts.cc.utexas.edu/~churchh/edw3chrt.html#BEGIN Adele Alice Countess FLANDERS (915-960)

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URL: http://worldconnect.genealogy.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=:3044567&id=I30700
# ID: I30700
# Name: Arnolph I The GREAT , Count Of Flanders 1 2 3 4
# Sex: M
# Birth: 890 in of, Flanders, Belgium 1 2 3 5 4
# Death: 27 MAR 964 in England 1 2 3 5 4
# Christening: Flanders = 5th Count Aka Arnulf or Arnoul 1 2 3 5 4
# Change Date: 13 OCT 2001 1 2 3 4
# Change Date: 15 JAN 2004 4
# Ancestral File #: G5QM-WC
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TYPE Acceded
DATE 918Waged war against William of Normandy, whom he defeated and slew.

NPFX Count
GIVN Arnold of Artois of
SURN FLANDERS
NSFX *

OCCU Count of Flanders ...
SOUR CHARL.TXT says CIR 890; HAWKINS.GED says ABT 890;www.rootsweb.com/gumby says
ABT 890; Royalty for Commoners, Roderick W. Stuart, p. 102, 173 says 885/890;
COMYNX.ARC (Compuserve) & TROW.TAF say 873
SOUR COMYNX.ARC (Compuserve) says ABT 965; HAWKINS.GED says 27 Mar 964;
Royalty for Commoners, Roderick W. Stuart, p. 102, 173 says 27 Mar 964;
1CHARL.TXT (Compuserve) says 965, COMYNJ.TAF (Compuserve) says ABT 965
SOUR www.rootsweb.com/gumby ;
Royalty for Commoners, Roderick W. Stuart, p. 102, 127, 248;
COMYNI.GED (Compuserve);
Le Viel Arnulf I - COMYN4.TAF (Compuserve Roots), p. 3; Arnoul the Great,
Count of Flanders - Americans of Royal Descent, Charles H. Browning, p. 246;
Arnolph - p. 200; Arnolph I, Magnus, the Great, Count of Flanders and Artois -
ROYAL.JRW (Compuserve); Adele was his 2nd wife - Royalty for Commoners,
Roderick W. Stuart, p. 102; Arnulf (Arnold) Count of Flanders and Artois -
p. 173; le Vieux - COMYNX.ARC (Compuserve), #574
ARNOLD I, son of BALDWIN II and AELFTHRYTH: Acceded 918 Waged war against William of Normandy, who he defeated and slew Note: two different sources show different mothers (see #5108) -
http://gendex.com/users/daver/rigney/D0001/G0000053.html#I1361
Magnus the Great - http://al7fl.a bts.net/green-page/greenged.html/d0039/g0000060.html#I27269

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Father: Count Of Flanders BALDWIN II b: ABT 865 in Flanders, Artois
Mother: Alfthryth Princess Of ENGLAND b: 868 in Wessex, England

Marriage 1 Countess Of Flanders ALICE b: ABT 910 in Vermandois, Normandy, France

* Married: 934 in Flanders, Belgium 1 2 3 5 4

Children

1. Has Children Elstrude DE FLANDERS b: ABT 932 in Of, Flandres
2. Has Children Baldwin III Of FLANDERS b: 933 in Flanders, France
3. Has Children Hildegarde Of FLANDERS b: 935
4. Has Children Ledgarde Of FLANDERS b: 941 in Flanders, France

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[Geoffrey De Normandie, Gedcom BSJTK Smith Family Tree.ged]

GIVN Alix de
SURN VERMANDOIS
NSFX *

GIVN Adele (Alice, Alix),
SURN Flanders
AFN 9G82-Q5
_PRIMARY Y
DATE 10 SEP 2000
TIME 06:43:05

OCCU ...
SOUR Royalty for Commoners, Roderick W. Stuart, p. 127 says CIR 915; Royalty for
Commoners, Roderick W. Stuart, p. 173 says 910/915; HAWKINS.GED says ABT 915;
members.aol.com/sargen3 says ABT 910, Vermandois, Normandy, France
SOUR 1CHARL.TXT says CIR 958, Bruges; members.aol.com/sargen3 says 10 Oct 958,
Bruges; Royalty for Commoners, Roderick W. Stuart, p. 127 says 958/960;
Royalty for Commoners, Roderick W. Stuart, p. 173 says 960
SOUR gendex.com/users/daver/rigney/D0001
Marriage and the Family in the Middle Ages, Frances and Joseph Gies says her
son was Baldwin II, p. 130;Adele or Alix or Athele - ROYAL.JRW (Compuserve)
Alix de Vermandois - Americans of Royal Descent, Charles H. Browning, p. 210;
Adele (Alix) (Caroling) de Vermandois - COMYNI.GED (Compuserve)

OCCU ...
SOUR Royalty for Commoners, Roderick W. Stuart, p. 127 says CIR 915; Royalty for
Commoners, Roderick W. Stuart, p. 173 says 910/915; HAWKINS.GED says ABT 915;
members.aol.com/sargen3 says ABT 910, Vermandois, Normandy, France
SOUR 1CHARL.TXT says CIR 958, Bruges; members.aol.com/sargen3 says 10 Oct 958,
Bruges; Royalty for Commoners, Roderick W. Stuart, p. 127 says 958/960;
Royalty for Commoners, Roderick W. Stuart, p. 173 says 960
SOUR gendex.com/users/daver/rigney/D0001
Marriage and the Family in the Middle Ages, Frances and Joseph Gies says her
son was Baldwin II, p. 130;Adele or Alix or Athele - ROYAL.JRW (Compuserve)
Alix de Vermandois - Americans of Royal Descent, Charles H. Browning, p. 210;
Adele (Alix) (Caroling) de Vermandois - COMYNI.GED (Compuserve)

OCCU ...
SOUR Royalty for Commoners, Roderick W. Stuart, p. 127 says CIR 915; Royalty for
Commoners, Roderick W. Stuart, p. 173 says 910/915; HAWKINS.GED says ABT 915;
members.aol.com/sargen3 says ABT 910, Vermandois, Normandy, France
SOUR 1CHARL.TXT says CIR 958, Bruges; members.aol.com/sargen3 says 10 Oct 958,
Bruges; Royalty for Commoners, Roderick W. Stuart, p. 127 says 958/960;
Royalty for Commoners, Roderick W. Stuart, p. 173 says 960
SOUR gendex.com/users/daver/rigney/D0001
Marriage and the Family in the Middle Ages, Frances and Joseph Gies says her
son was Baldwin II, p. 130;Adele or Alix or Athele - ROYAL.JRW (Compuserve)
Alix de Vermandois - Americans of Royal Descent, Charles H. Browning, p. 210;
Adele (Alix) (Caroling) de Vermandois - COMYNI.GED (Compuserve)

OCCU ...
SOUR Royalty for Commoners, Roderick W. Stuart, p. 127 says CIR 915; Royalty for
Commoners, Roderick W. Stuart, p. 173 says 910/915; HAWKINS.GED says ABT 915;
members.aol.com/sargen3 says ABT 910, Vermandois, Normandy, France
SOUR 1CHARL.TXT says CIR 958, Bruges; members.aol.com/sargen3 says 10 Oct 958,
Bruges; Royalty for Commoners, Roderick W. Stuart, p. 127 says 958/960;
Royalty for Commoners, Roderick W. Stuart, p. 173 says 960
SOUR gendex.com/users/daver/rigney/D0001
Marriage and the Family in the Middle Ages, Frances and Joseph Gies says her
son was Baldwin II, p. 130;Adele or Alix or Athele - ROYAL.JRW (Compuserve)
Alix de Vermandois - Americans of Royal Descent, Charles H. Browning, p. 210;
Adele (Alix) (Caroling) de Vermandois - COMYNI.GED (Compuserve)

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DATE 27 APR 2000

I wish I was sure of every name in this file & that I didnt
need to know what you think :) hey, but always refining this,
So if you spot a place where Im just flat wrong please tell
me or someone I didnt go on out with, I do this file out of fun and wanting to know, but do not
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Thanks and Happy Hunting!

!Name is; Adele (Alice, Alix), Countess Of /FLANDERS/

#Générale##Générale#2ʻ femme

{geni:occupation} Hertiginna, Gravin

{geni:about_me} * [http://nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aleidis_van_Vermandois nl.wikipedia.org - '''Aleidis van Vermandois....'''] ;

*Adela (Adèle, Alix) de Vermandois,
* wife of Arnoul the Great (the Old)
*Spouse: Arnulf I 'den Grôotn' van Vloandern (Arnoul 'le Grand' de Flandre)
*Parents: Heribert de Vermandois & Liegarde
*Children:
1. Luitgard
2. Baudouin III
3. Egbert
4.Elstrude, married Siegfred
==LINKS==
*[http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/NORTHERN%20FRANCE.htm#Adeladied960]
===[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adele_of_Vermandois Adele of Vermandois in Wikipedia English]===

==MEDIEVAL LANDS==
ADELA de Vermandois ([915]-[Bruges 10 Oct] 960, bur Ghent, St Pieter).
The Genealogica Arnulfi Comitis names "Adelam, domni Heriberti comitis filiam" as wife of "comes Arnulfus", specifying that she was "duorum Francorum regum, Odonis atque Rotberti, neptem"[1300]. Flodoard refers to the wife of "Arnoul" as sister of "Hugo [de Vermandois Archbishop of Reims]"[1301]. Her marriage was arranged to seal the alliance made in 934 between her father and her future husband[1302]. "Arnulfus Flandrie comes et marchisus" granted use of property "Snellenghem in pago Flandrensi" to Saint-Pierre de Gand, for "uxore mea…Adala atque…filio meo Balduino et filia mea Lietgardis" and for deceased "Balduino genitore meo et Elstrudis genetrice mea atque Heeberto filio meo", by charter dated 10 Jul 953[1303]. "Adhela comitissa" freed two serfs and granted them to the abbey of Saint-Pierre de Gand, for the soul of "fidelis nostri Amalrici", by charter dated 8 Sep 954, signed by "Balduini comitis…Odacri advocati"[1304]. The Annales Blandinienses record the death in 960 of "Adala comitissa"[1305].

m (934) as his second wife, ARNOUL I "le Grand" Count of Flanders, son of BAUDOUIN II "le Chauve" Count of Flanders & his wife Ælfthryth of Wessex ([885/890]-murdered 27 Mar 964, bur Ghent, St Pieter).
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Children
1. Count Baudouin III De FLANDERS, b. Abt 930, Flanders, Belgium , d. 1 Nov 962

2. Elstrude De FLANDERS, b. Abt 932, Flanders, Belgium , d. Between 937 and 1036

3. Count Arnold of FLEMING, b. Abt 940, Flanders, Belgium, Netherlands , d. 30 Mar 987, Gent, Flandre-Orientale, Belgium, Netherlands

4. Countess Ledgarde De Flanders of GAND, b. Abt 941, Flanders, Belgium , d. 29 Sep 964
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WIKIPEDIA (Eng)
Adele of Vermandois (910-960) was a daughter of Herbert II of Vermandois with his first wife, Adela. She married Count Arnulf I of Flanders in 934 and had four children:
* Luitgard, married Wichmann, Count of Ghent
* Egbert, died 953
* Baldwin III of Flanders
* Elftrude, married Siegfried, Count of Guînes

Through her descendants Matilda of Flanders and Henry I of England, she was an ancestor to the present-day British royal family.
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Neustria The territory of Neustria originated in A.D. 511, made up of the regions from Aquitaine to the northern seacoast approximating most of the north of present-day France. The two main cities were Paris and Soissons. Previously, Neustria was the western part of the kingdom of the Franks during the sixth to eighth centuries under the rule of the Merovingians. The distinct area originated at the time of the death of Clovis I (reigned 482-511) when his lands were divided between his sons.

The constant re-divisions by his offspring resulted in many rivalries that, for more than two hundred years, kept Neustria in almost constant warfare with Austrasia, the eastern portion of the Frankish kingdom.

Despite the wars, Neustria and Austrasia were only reunited briefly on a few occasions, the first time by Clotaire I during his reign from 558 to 562. The struggle for power continued with the widow of King Chilperic I (reigned 566-584) when a bitter war was led by Queen Fredegund of Neustria, mother of the new king Clotaire II (reigned 584-628).

After his mother's passing and burial in Saint Denis Basilica in Paris (597), Clotaire II continued the struggle against Queen Brunhild of Austrasia (d. 613) and was victorious, but only for a short time. Finally under Dagobert I (reigned 628-637) the ongoing generational war resulted in another temporary unification but by then the authority of the warring kings began to decline as the mayors of the palace rose to prominence.

In 687, Pippin of Herstal, mayor of the palace of the king of Austrasia, defeated the tenacious Neustrians at Tertry and united Austrasia and Neustria.

Pippin's descendants, the Carolingians, continued to rule the two realms as mayors. With the Pope's blessing, after 751 the Carolingian Mayor of the Palace, Pippin the Short, formally deposed the Merovingians and took control of the empire, he and his descendants ruling as kings.

Neustria, Austrasia, and Burgundy were then united under one authority and the names Neustria and Austrasia gradually disappeared.
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Aleidis van Vermandois (910 - Brugge, 10 oktober 958) was een dochter van Herbert II van Vermandois en van Adelheid van Frankrijk.

In 934 werd zij (vermoedelijk de tweede) echtgenote van graaf Arnulf I van Vlaanderen. Het paar kreeg volgende kinderen:

Odo I, graaf van Kamerijk
Elftrude (geboren in 935), in 950 gehuwd met Siegfried I van Guines
Hildegard (935 - 10 april 990), in 945 gehuwd met Dirk II, graaf van West-Friesland,
Egbert (937 - 10 juli 953)
Boudewijn III
Luidgard (941 - 29 september 964), in 955 gehuwd met Wichman II, graaf van Hamaland.

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From http://www.rpi.edu/~holmes/Hobbies/Genealogy/ps05/ps05_061.htm

Alix (or Adele) may be daughter of Herbert II and another wife, Hildebrante of Neustria.

References: [RFC],[MRL],[WallopFH]
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From the Foundation for Medieval Genealogy page on Flanders:
http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/FLANDERS,%20HAINAUT.htm#_Toc212185309

m [secondly] (934) ADELA de Vermandois, daughter of HERIBERT [II] Comte de Vermandois [Carolingian] & his wife Adela [Capet] ([915]-[Bruges 10 Oct] 960, bur Gent, St Pieter).

The Genealogica Arnulfi Comitis names "Adelam, domni Heriberti comitis filiam" as wife of "comes Arnulfus", specifying that she was "duorum Francorum regum, Odonis atque Rotberti, neptem"[116].

"Adala coniunx Arnulfi" is named in the Cartulaire de Saint-Bertin[117]. The Annales Elnonenses Minores records the marriage [undated between 931 and 949] of "Arnulfus" and "Adelam, filiam Heriberti Vermandorum comitis"[118].

Her marriage was arranged to seal the alliance made in 934 between her father and her future husband[119]. "Arnulfus Flandrie comes et marchisus" granted use of property "Snellenghem in pago Flandrensi" to Saint-Pierre de Gand, for "uxore mea…Adala atque…filio meo Balduino et filia mea Lietgardis" and for deceased "Balduino genitore meo et Elstrudis genetrice mea atque Heeberto filio meo", by charter dated 10 Jul 953[120].

"Adhela comitissa" freed two serfs and granted them to the abbey of Saint-Pierre de Gand, for the soul of "fidelis nostri Amalrici", by charter dated 8 Sep 954, signed by "Balduini comitis…Odacri advocati"[121].

The Annales Blandinienses record the death in 960 of "Adala comitissa"[122].

Count Arnoul I and his second wife had four children:
1. Liutgard de Flandre (935 to 962, before Oct 18)
2. Baudouin de Flandres (935/940 to 1 Jan 962, b. Abbey of St. Bertin, OUR ANCESTOR).
3. Egbert de Flandre (d. before 10 July 953)
4. Elstrude de Flandre (d. 966 or after)

From the Celtic Casimir online family tree:
http://www.celtic-casimir.com/webtree/3/5474.htm

Adaele (Alice, Alix) DE VERMANDOIS
Born: Abt 910-915, Vermandois, Neustria
Married: Apr 932, Flanders, Belgium
Died: 10 Oct 960, Bruges, Belgium
Buried: Abbaye De St Pierre, Gand, Flandres
Ancestral File Number: 9G82-Q5.

Marriage Information:
Adaele married Comte Arnolf (Arnulph) I "the Elder" DE FLANDRES et Artois, son of Comte Baudouin (Baldwin) II "The Bald" DE FLANDRES and Жfthryр (Elfridam) DE WESSEX Princess of Wessex, in Apr 932 in Flanders, Belgium. (Comte Arnolf (Arnulph) I "the Elder" DE FLANDRES et Artois was born in 889 in Flanders and died on 27 Mar 964.)

From the Wikipedia entry on Adele of Vermandois:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adele_of_Vermandois
http://nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aleidis_van_Vermandois

Adele of Vermandois (910-960) was a daughter of Herbert II of Vermandois with his first wife, Adela. She married Count Arnulf I of Flanders in 934 (presumably his second wife) and had four children:

1. Luitgard (935 to 29 September 964), married Wichmann, Count of Ghent in 955.
2. Egbert, died 10 July 953
3. Baldwin III of Flanders 935 or 940 to 1 January 962.
4. Elftrude, married Siegfried, Count of Guînes (died after 965), married Siegfried de Gulnes in 950.

Through her descendants Matilda of Flanders and Henry I of England, she was an ancestor to the present-day British royal family.
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Adele of Vermandois (910-960) was a daughter of Herbert II of Vermandois with his first wife, Adela. She married Count Arnulf I of Flanders in 934 and had four children:

Luitgard, married Wichmann, Count of Ghent
Egbert, died 953
Baldwin III of Flanders
Elftrude, married Siegfried, Count of Guînes
Through her descendants Matilda of Flanders and Henry I of England, she was an ancestor to the present-day British royal family.
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Adele of Vermandois (910-960) was a daughter of Herbert II of Vermandois with his first wife, Adela. She married Count Arnulf I of Flanders in 934 and had four children:

Luitgard, married Wichmann, Count of Ghent
Egbert, died 953
Baldwin III of Flanders
Elftrude, married Siegfried, Count of Guînes
Through her descendants Matilda of Flanders and Henry I of England, she was an ancestor to the present-day British royal family.
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Arnulf I "The Old" of FLANDERS Count of Flanders [Parents] 1, 2, 3, 4, 5 was born 890 in , Flanders, Belgium. He died 27 Mar 964 in , Flanders, Belgium. Arnulf married Alix de VERMANDOIS on 934 in , Flanders, Belgium.

Alix de VERMANDOIS [Parents] 1, 2, 3 was born 918 in Vermandois, Normandie, France. She died 10 Oct 960 in Brugge, West Flanders, Belgium. Alix married Arnulf I "The Old" of FLANDERS Count of Flanders on 934 in , Flanders, Belgium.

They had the following children:

M i Baldwin III of FLANDERS Count of Flanders was born 935 and died 1 Jan 962.
F ii Liutgard of FLANDERS was born 937 and died 29 Sep 964.
F iii Hildegarde of FLANDERS was born 939 and died 10 Apr 990.
M iv Heribert of FLANDERS 1 was born 941 in , Flanders, Belgium.
F v Elftrude of FLANDERS was born 943.
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Another name for Adele was Alice. She was a Countess of Vermandois

Adela de Vermandois is the daughter of Heribert II, Comte de Vermandois and Liégarde de France.

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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adele_of_Vermandois

descended from Charlemagne: http://genealogy.euweb.cz/carolin/carolin1.html

Adele of Vermandois (910-960), daughter of Herbert II Count Vermandois and his first wife Adela de France
Marriage and descent [ edit ]

In 934, she married Arnold I, er , son of Baldwin II of Flanders and Elftrude of Wessex (in) (or Elfrida, or Ælfthryth). They had 5 children:

* Elftrude was born circa 932, married in 964 to Siegfried († 965), Lord of Guines . They had two children:
o Ardolf I of Guines (° v.966-ap.996)
o Hawise de Guines (c. 958 -?)
* Hildegarde (934 † 990), married 943 to Thierry II of Holland (or Dirk II of Holland) (930 † 988), Count of West Friesland . They had three children:
o Arnould (° Ghent 951 - † 993), Count of Friesland
o Egbert (951 - † 993), Imperial Chancellor and Archbishop of Trier
o Herlinde (° 953 - 1012), abbess of Egmont and Bennebrock
* Egbert (937 † 953)
* Lutgarde (938 † 964), married in 950 to Wichmann II Count Hamaland and Ghent. They had four children:
o Theodoric I of Ghent (AD 950 -?), Count of Ghent
o Wichmann Ghent (ap. 951 -?)
o Adele of Ghent (c. 955 -1017)
o Lutgarde of Ghent (c. 950 -?)
* Baldwin III (940 † 962), count of Flanders, married to Matilda of Saxony . They had 2 children:
o Arnulf II of Flanders (c. 941 - March 30, 987)
o Bertha of Flanders (v.1008-1034)

Among his descendants are found Matilda of Flanders and Henry I of England , it is therefore among the ancestors of the British royal family.

1 NAME Alix (or Adelaide) /de Vermandois/ 2 SOUR S033320 3 DATA 4 TEXT Date of Import: Jan 17, 2001 1 BIRT 2 DATE ABT. 915 2 PLAC of, Vermandois, Normandy, France 2 SOUR S033320 3 DATA 4 TEXT Date of Import: Jan 17, 2001 1 DEAT 2 DATE 10 OCT 960 2 PLAC Bruges, Flanders 2 SOUR S033320 3 DATA 4 TEXT Date of Import: Jan 17, 2001

[De La Pole.FTW]
Sources: RC 141, 169, 235, 311; Coe, A. Roots 48-20; Kraentzler 1496; Smallwood, Pfafman and AF. Called Alix by Roots. Called Adelaide (Adele) in RC 141 and Adelaide (Adela) in RC 169. Second wife of Arnold/Arnulf. First wife of Robert I and sister of Robert, Count of Vermandois.

1 NAME Alix (or Adelaide) /de Vermandois/ 2 SOUR S033320 3 DATA 4 TEXT Date of Import: Jan 17, 2001 1 BIRT 2 DATE ABT. 915 2 PLAC of, Vermandois, Normandy, France 2 SOUR S033320 3 DATA 4 TEXT Date of Import: Jan 17, 2001 1 DEAT 2 DATE 10 OCT 960 2 PLAC Bruges, Flanders 2 SOUR S033320 3 DATA 4 TEXT Date of Import: Jan 17, 2001

[De La Pole.FTW]
Sources: RC 141, 169, 235, 311; Coe, A. Roots 48-20; Kraentzler 1496; Smallwood, Pfafman and AF. Called Alix by Roots. Called Adelaide (Adele) in RC 141 and Adelaide (Adela) in RC 169. Second wife of Arnold/Arnulf. First wife of Robert I and sister of Robert, Count of Vermandois.

1 NAME Alix (or Adelaide) /de Vermandois/ 2 SOUR S033320 3 DATA 4 TEXT Date of Import: Jan 17, 2001 1 BIRT 2 DATE ABT. 915 2 PLAC of, Vermandois, Normandy, France 2 SOUR S033320 3 DATA 4 TEXT Date of Import: Jan 17, 2001 1 DEAT 2 DATE 10 OCT 960 2 PLAC Bruges, Flanders 2 SOUR S033320 3 DATA 4 TEXT Date of Import: Jan 17, 2001

[De La Pole.FTW]
Sources: RC 141, 169, 235, 311; Coe, A. Roots 48-20; Kraentzler 1496; Smallwood, Pfafman and AF. Called Alix by Roots. Called Adelaide (Adele) in RC 141 and Adelaide (Adela) in RC 169. Second wife of Arnold/Arnulf. First wife of Robert I and sister of Robert, Count of Vermandois.

NOT-A-MATCH: This individual is not the same as UNKNOWN de /VERMANDOIS/ ?-?, PAF ID {fdf55554-72f9-4595-ba56-a13b36358a15}

NOT-A-MATCH: This individual is not the same as Judith de /VERMANDOIS/ ?-?, PAF ID {1c7f228b-5005-4a6f-b27c-1dab9deec880}

_P_CCINFO 1-7369

!BIRTH: "Royal Ancestors" by Michel Call - Based on Call Family Pedigrees FHL
film 844805 & 844806, Family History Library, Salt Lake City, UT. Copy of
"Royal Ancestors" owned by Lynn Bernhard, Orem, UT.

Line 137 from GEDCOM File not recognizable or too long:
NAME Adele (Alice, Alix) De /VERMANDOIS/

Line 138 from GEDCOM File not recognizable or too long:
TITL [COUNT OF FLANDERS]/

Data From Lynn Jeffrey Bernhard, 2445 W 450 South #4, Springville UT 84663-4950
email - (XXXXX@XXXX.XXX)

SOURCE NOTES:
Bu846

werd uitgehuwelijkt om de vrede tussen het huis Vlaanderen en de Heribertiner graven te bestendigen

GJ

Adele De Vernandois
http://trees.ancestry.com/rd?f=document&guid=d262c3c3-8ede-4a0f-9671-640090c86b91&tid=2440653&pid=-1141202260

221827265. Grevinne Adele N.NSDTR av Vermandois was born about 915.(13247) She died between 958 and 960.(13248) She was a Grevinne in Vermandois

Line 4943 from GEDCOM File not recognizable or too long:
NAME Adele (Alice, Alix) De /VERMANDOIS/

Line 4944 from GEDCOM File not recognizable or too long:
TITL [COUNT OF FLANDERS]/

from "Our Folk" by Albert D Hart, Jr.

[large-G675.FTW]

Fifth in decent from Charlemagne

Fifth in decent from Charlemagne[Custer February 1, 2002 Family Tree.FTW]

[merge G675.FTW]

Fifth in decent from CharlemagneAlias: Alice /Alix/
Ancestral File Number: 9G82-Q5

RESEARCH NOTES:
Countess of Vermandois

OR "ADELA""DE VERMANDOIS"

Adele of Vermandois
http://trees.ancestry.com/rd?f=document&guid=d6b8efcf-9b0d-4602-a3b1-d9ea95dec213&tid=6010454&pid=-1251273508

_P_CCINFO 1-2782

GJ=Gary Jacobson www.garyjacobson.org/ahnentafel.html

Line 4943 from GEDCOM File not recognizable or too long:
NAME Adele (Alice, Alix) De /VERMANDOIS/

Line 4944 from GEDCOM File not recognizable or too long:
TITL [COUNT OF FLANDERS]/

33rd great grandmother

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