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Personal data Thurstan (Turtain Turstin) (Thurstan (Turtain, Turstin)) "le Guz" le Goz Vicomte d'Avranches, Chambellan de Robert II Duc de Normandie 

• Nickname is le Guz.
• He was born about 995 in Avranches, Normandy, FranceAvranches, Normandy.
• He was christened in Thurstan LE GOZ (Vicomte d'Hiesmer).
• Profession: .

  {geni:job_title} Gouverneur, d'Exmes

• He died about 1041 TO ABT 1041 in Avranches, Normandy, FranceAvranches, Normandy.
• A child of Ansfred (Ansfroi) II "le Dane" le Gotz (le Goz) and Ragnar Ansfred Goz
• This information was last updated on April 16, 2012.

Household of Thurstan (Turtain Turstin) (Thurstan (Turtain, Turstin)) "le Guz" le Goz Vicomte d'Avranches, Chambellan de Robert II Duc de Normandie

He is married to Judith Turuvisa? de Montanolier.

They got married about 1015 TO ABT 1016 at Avranches, Manche, France.

Child(ren):

1. Robert "The Chamberlain" Bigod  ± 1015-± 1071 
2. Richard le Goz d’Avranches  1025-± 1125 

Notes about Thurstan (Turtain Turstin) (Thurstan (Turtain, Turstin)) "le Guz" le Goz Vicomte d'Avranches, Chambellan de Robert II Duc de Normandie

GIVN Toustien Le
SURN Goz
AFN 91R4-NQ
DATE 9 SEP 2000
TIME 13:15:39

GIVN Toustien Le
SURN Goz
AFN 91R4-NQ
DATE 9 SEP 2000
TIME 13:15:39

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Name Suffix: Vicount Of Hiesmer

Name Suffix: Vicount Of Hiesmer

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"Plantagenet Ancestry", Turton.
"Wallop Family".
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Rebelled and exiled from Normandy, 1041; Chamberlain of Duke Robert and sent with him to Jerusalem, c1034/1035; Crusader (?). [Roderick W. Stuart, Royalty for Commoners, 3rd ed., Genealogical Publishing Company, Baltimore MD, 1998)

Rebelled and exiled from Normandy, 1041; Chamberlain of Duke Robert and sent with him to Jerusalem, c1034/1035; Crusader (?). [Roderick W. Stuart, Royalty for Commoners, 3rd ed., Genealogical Publishing Company, Baltimore MD, 1998)

Rebelled and exiled from Normandy, 1041; Chamberlain of Duke Robert and sent with him to Jerusalem, c1034/1035; Crusader (?). [Roderick W. Stuart, Royalty for Commoners, 3rd ed., Genealogical Publishing Company, Baltimore MD, 1998)

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!VICOMTE D'HIESMES[Brøderbund WFT Vol. 2, Ed. 1, Tree #1241, Date of Import: May 8, 1997]

!VICOMTE D'HIESMES

Toustein was a great favourite of Robert the magnificent and accompanied him to the Holy Land. He was entrusted to bring back the relics from Palestine. In 1041 he revolted against Duke William and was exiled, his lands were confiscated and given to the Duke's mother Herleve. wife of Herluin de Contville. later the son of Thurstein and daughter of Herleve married and he regained his fathers property from his mother in law.

HUGH D'AVRANCHES, EARL OF CHESTER
The Conqueror and His Companions
by J.R. Planché, Somerset Herald. London: Tinsley Brothers, 1874.

The third son of Gerlotte was Ansfrid the Dane, the first Vicomte ofthe Hiemois, and father of Ansfrid the second, surnamed Goz, abovementioned, whose son Turstain (Thurstan, or Toustain) Goz was thegreat favourite of Robert Duke of Normandy, the father of theConqueror, and accompanied him to the Holy Land, and was entrusted tobring back the relics the Duke had obtained from the Patriarch ofJerusalem to present to the Abbey of Cerisi, which he had founded.Revolting against the young Duke William in 1041 (Vide vol. i, p. 21),Turstain was exiled, and his lands confiscated and given by the Duketo his mother, Herleve, wife of Herluin de Conteville.

GIVN Toustien Le
SURN Goz
AFN 91R4-NQ
DATE 9 SEP 2000
TIME 13:15:39

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"Plantagenet Ancestry", Turton.
"Wallop Family".
"Some Early English Pedigrees", Vernon M. Norr.
"Ancestral roots of certain American colonists who came to Americabefore 1700", Weis, 1992, seventh edition.

"Royalty for Commoners", Roderick W. Stuart, 1992, 2nd edition.
"Plantagenet Ancestry", Turton.
"Wallop Family".
"Some Early English Pedigrees", Vernon M. Norr.
"Ancestral roots of certain American colonists who came to Americabefore 1700", Weis, 1992, seventh edition. "Royalty for Commoners",Roderick W. Stuart, 1992, 2nd edition.
"Plantagenet Ancestry", Turton.
"Wallop Family".
"Some Early English Pedigrees", Vernon M. Norr.
"Ancestral roots of certain American colonists who came to Americabefore 1700", Weis, 1992, seventh edition.

#Générale#Toustien le Coz

note couple : s:Auréjac

{geni:occupation} Vizconde d' Avranche, LORD HEISMES, Vicount of Hieme, Toustein le Goz, Viscount D'avranches, Gouverneur, d'Exmes, Viscount of Heismer, -Note: From Charles Sterlings's "Ragains Website"

{geni:about_me} Turstin/ Turtain/ Thurstan le Gotz (Goz), Vicomte d'Avranches

Chambellan for Robert II le Magnifique, Duc de Normandie. Accompanied the Duke to the Holy Land and carried relics for the Abbey of Cerisy-la-Foret for the Duke. Revolted against William the Conqueror in 1041 and fled into exile, his goods remitted to Arlette de Conteville. (André Davy, Les Barons du Cotentin, Marigny: Editions Eurocibles, 2009, p. 55).`

Spouse:

Judith de Monterolier

Children:

* Renouf (died before 1090)
* Turstin (Thurstan) Haldup, ancestor of barons of Haye-du-Puits
* Gislebert d'Avranches
* Richard "le Goz" d'Avranches 1024-1082
* [Another son, Robert, is named by Crowley]

Source: André Davy (Les Barons du Cotentin, Marigny: Editions Eurocibles, 2009), p. 55

http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/NORMAN%20NOBILITY.htm#_Toc254886770

THURSTAN "le Goz" (-[1045/55]). Guillaume de Jumièges names "Toustain surnommé Guz, fils d'Ansfroi le Danois", specifying that he was governor of Exmes, recording that he rebelled against Guillaume II Duke of Normandy and was exiled "don son pays"[575]. Vicomte. "Ricardi filii Gulberti, Nigelli vicecomitis…Storstingi vicecomitis" signed the charter dated 1027 (redated to [1017]) in which "secundus nominis mei Normannorum dux Ricardus" confirmed donations to Fécamp abbey[576]. "…Torstingus vicecomes…" witnessed the charter dated Aug 1027 under which Richard II Duke of Normandy donated property to the abbey of Bernay[577]. "…Turstingi vicecomitis…" witnessed the charter dated to [1030] under which Robert II Duke of Normandy donated "in comitatu Abrincatensi villam…Sancti Johannis" to the abbey of Mont-Saint-Michel[578]. "…Nigelli vicecomitis, Tursteni vicecomitis…Willelmi Arcacensis comitis, Godefridi vicecomitis, Rodgerii filii Rodulfi, Wimundi…" witnessed the charter dated to [1040] under which Guillaume Comte de Talou donated property to Jumièges[579]. "Turstin vicecomes" witness the donation to Sainte-Trinité de Rouen of "Gozelinus vicecomes" dated [1038/50][580]. "…Nigelli vicecomitis, Tursteni vicecomitis, Godefredi vicecomitis…" subscribed the charter dated to [1040] under which "Vuillelmus Ricardi magni ducis Normannorum filius" donated property to the abbey of Jumièges[581]. "…Turstinci vicecomitis…Turstinci Gazel…Richardi filii Turstinci, Roberti fratris eius…" witnessed the charter dated to [1047 or before] under which Guillaume II Duke of Normandy confirmed the donation by "Adelelmi…Beatricis uxor eius…Rotberti filius eius" to the abbey of Mont-Saint-Michel[582]. m ---. The name of Thurstan's wife is not known. Thurstan & his wife had two children:

a) RICHARD "le Goz" (-after 1082). Guillaume de Jumièges names "Richard fils de Toustain", specifying that he served Guillaume II Duke of Normandy faithfully after his father's rebellion[583]. "…Turstinci vicecomitis…Turstinci Gazel…Richardi filii Turstinci, Roberti fratris eius…" witnessed the charter dated to [1047 or before] under which Guillaume II Duke of Normandy confirmed the donation by "Adelelmi…Beatricis uxor eius…Rotberti filius eius" to the abbey of Mont-Saint-Michel[584]. Vicomte d'Avranches. "…Richardi filii Torestini…" witnessed the charter dated to [1055] under which Guillaume II Duke of Normandy donated property to the abbey of Marmoutier[585]. "…Willelmi filii Osberti, Rotgerii de Monte Golmerii, Richardis vicecomitis Abrinchensis…" witnessed the charter dated [1055/56] under which Guillaume II Duke of Normandy "in pago…Constantino, villam…Flotomannum" to Saint-Florent de Saumur[586]. "…Ricardus vicecomes Abrincatinus…" witnessed the charter dated 1064 under which Guillaume II Duke of Normandy settled a claim in favour of the monks of Marmoutier relating to property donated by "Guido de Valle"[587]. The Chronique de Normandie, based on le Roman de Rou, names "Richart d´Avrenchin" among those who took part in the conquest of England in 1066[588]. "Richardi filii Torsteingoiz" witnessed a charter of William I King of England dated 1069[589]. Orderic Vitalis names him as the son of Thurstan[590]. "Ricardo filio Turstini Guz et Guillelmo Caritate, Fulkoque filio Gerardi Budel atque Radulfo de Ollei" are named as present in the charter dated 30 Nov 1074 under which Odo Bishop of Bayeux bought "la terre de Chernet" from "Herberto de Agnellis", with the consent of "suo domino Radulfo de Conchis"[591]. m EMMA, daughter of ---. A manuscript relating to St Werburgh´s Chester records that “Hugo Lupus filius ducis Britanniæ et nepos Gulielmi magni ex sorore” transformed the foundation into a monastery[592]. This suggests that Hugues´s mother may have been a uterine sister of King William, and therefore daughter of Herluin de Conteville. However, no indication has been in other primary sources which supports the contention that Hugues was the son of a duke of Brittany. It is assumed therefore that both lines of his parentage have been romanticised in this document to improve his status and reputation. Vicomte Richard & his wife had four children:

i) HUGUES d'Avranches "Lupus"[593] ([1047]-St Werburg's Abbey, Chester 27 Jul 1101). He is named as son of Richard "le Goz" by Orderic Vitalis[594]. William I King of England granted him the whole of the county palatine of Chester[595] in 1071, whereby he is held to have become Earl of Chester.

- EARLS of CHESTER.

ii) MARGUERITE [Maud] d'Avranches . She is named "Mathilda soror Hugonis comitis" by Orderic Vitalis, who also names her son[596]. m RANULF Vicomte du Bessin, son of RANULF Vicomte du Bessin & his wife Alix de Normandie.

iii) HELISENDE d'Avranches . Her marriage is referred to by Orderic Vitalis, who says that she was the sister of Hugh Earl of Chester but does not give her name[597]. The primary source which confirms her name has not yet been identified. m as his second wife, GUILLAUME [II] Comte d'Eu, son of ROBERT Comte d'Eu & his first wife Beatrix --- (-2 Jan after 1096).

iv) JUDITH d'Avranches . She is named as wife of Richer de Laigle by Orderic Vitalis, who also names her father and brother[598]. "Robertus…" donated property to Chartres Saint-Père by charter dated to [1101/17], confirmed by "Gisleberti…de Aquila" and witnessed by "Gisleberti de Aquila, Julite eiusdem matris et Juliane uxoris ipsius"[599]. "Richer de Aquila son of Ingenulf de Aquila" donated property to the abbey of Saint-Evroul by charter dated to [1099] (although this date is incorrect if the date of his death is as shown above), witnessed by "…Judiht uxore mea, filia Richardi de Abrincis et sorore Hugonis comitis Cestrensis"[600]. "Robertus…" donated property to Chartres Saint-Père by charter dated to [1101/17], confirmed by "Gisleberti…de Aquila" and witnessed by "Gisleberti de Aquila, Julite eiusdem matris et Juliane uxoris ipsius"[601]. m RICHER de Laigle, son of ENGENULF & his wife --- (-killed Dec 1085).

b) ROBERT . "…Turstinci vicecomitis…Turstinci Gazel…Richardi filii Turstinci, Roberti fratris eius…" witnessed the charter dated to [1047 or before] under which Guillaume II Duke of Normandy confirmed the donation by "Adelelmi…Beatricis uxor eius…Rotberti filius eius" to the abbey of Mont-Saint-Michel[602].

http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/NORMAN%20NOBILITY.htm#_Toc218752160

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http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richard_Goz

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Thurstan le Goz, vicomte d' Avranches1

b. circa 975?

Thurstan le Goz, vicomte d' Avranches|b. c 975?|p55.htm#i6647|Ansfrid II Onfror le Goz|b. 970|p55.htm#i6649||||Ansfrid Hrólfsson|b. 935|p55.htm#i6650|Helloe (?)|b. 937|p55.htm#i6651|||||||

FatherAnsfrid II Onfror le Goz2 b. 970

Thurstan le Goz, vicomte d' Avranches was born circa 975?. He was the son of Ansfrid II Onfror le Goz.2 Thurstan le Goz, vicomte d' Avranches married Judith de Montanolier.2 Thurstan le Goz, vicomte d' Avranches was the great favourite of Robert Duke of Normandy, the father of the Conqueror, and accompanied him to the Holy Land, and was intrusted to bring back the relics the Duke had obtained from the Patriarch of Jerusalem to present to the Abbey of Cerisi, in 1035.3 He was a witness where Richard le Goz, vicomte d' Avranches managed to avoid being implicated in the rebellion of his father, but obtained his pardon and restoration, in 1041.3 Thurstan le Goz, vicomte d' Avranches was living in 1041.2 He was exiled, following a failed revolt against Duke William, and his lands confiscated and given by the Duke to his mother, Herleve, wife of Herluin de Conteville, in 1041.3,2

Family

Judith de Montanolier b. 1004

Children

* Robert le Bigod+ b. c 1010?4

* Richard le Goz, vicomte d' Avranches+ b. c 1025, d. a 10825,1

Citations

1. [S215] Revised by others later George Edward Cokayne CP, III:164.

2. [S204] Roderick W. Stuart, RfC, 295-34.

3. [S209] Somerset Herald J.R. Planché, Planché, J.R..

4. [S305] John S. Wurts, Magna Charta, pg. 422.

5. [S204] Roderick W. Stuart, RfC, 295-33.

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Thurstan le Goz, vicomte d' Avranches1

b. circa 975?

Thurstan le Goz, vicomte d' Avranches|b. c 975?|p55.htm#i6647|Ansfrid II Onfror le Goz|b. 970|p55.htm#i6649||||Ansfrid Hrólfsson|b. 935|p55.htm#i6650|Helloe (?)|b. 937|p55.htm#i6651|||||||

FatherAnsfrid II Onfror le Goz2 b. 970

Thurstan le Goz, vicomte d' Avranches was born circa 975?. He was the son of Ansfrid II Onfror le Goz.2 Thurstan le Goz, vicomte d' Avranches married Judith de Montanolier.2 Thurstan le Goz, vicomte d' Avranches was the great favourite of Robert Duke of Normandy, the father of the Conqueror, and accompanied him to the Holy Land, and was intrusted to bring back the relics the Duke had obtained from the Patriarch of Jerusalem to present to the Abbey of Cerisi, in 1035.3 He was a witness where Richard le Goz, vicomte d' Avranches managed to avoid being implicated in the rebellion of his father, but obtained his pardon and restoration, in 1041.3 Thurstan le Goz, vicomte d' Avranches was living in 1041.2 He was exiled, following a failed revolt against Duke William, and his lands confiscated and given by the Duke to his mother, Herleve, wife of Herluin de Conteville, in 1041.3,2

Family

Judith de Montanolier b. 1004

Children

* Robert le Bigod+ b. c 1010?4

* Richard le Goz, vicomte d' Avranches+ b. c 1025, d. a 10825,1

Citations

1. [S215] Revised by others later George Edward Cokayne CP, III:164.

2. [S204] Roderick W. Stuart, RfC, 295-34.

3. [S209] Somerset Herald J.R. Planché, Planché, J.R..

4. [S305] John S. Wurts, Magna Charta, pg. 422.

5. [S204] Roderick W. Stuart, RfC, 295-33.

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Toustien le GOZ Viscount of Hiesmes 1, 2 was born 989 in , Normandie, France. He married Judith de MONTANOLIER on 1014 in , Normandie, France.

Judith de MONTANOLIER 1 was born 994 in , Normandie, France. She married Toustien le GOZ Viscount of Hiesmes on 1014 in , Normandie, France.

They had the following children:

M i Richard "le Goz" d' AVRANCHES was born 1022 and died 1066.

Sources:

1Moriarty, George Andrews, The Plantagenet Ancestry of King Edward III and Queen Philippa (Salt Lake City: Mormon Pioneer Genealogy Society, 1985.), p. 111, Family History Library, 929.242 P694m.

2Cokayne, George Edward, The Complete Peerage of England, Scotland, Ireland, Great Britain and the United Kingdom, Extant, Extinct, or Dormant (London: St. Catherine Press, 1910.), 3:164, Los Angeles Public Library, 929.721 C682.

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B: 0989 Creully, Calvados, Normandy, France

S: Toustein le Goz

S: Viscount d'Avranches

D: aft 1041 Avranches, Manche, Normandy, France

M: abt 1014

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*Toustien Le Goz

born Abt 0989 Of, Normandy, France

father:

*Ansfred II Onfror Or Unfroi Goz

born Abt 0963 Of, Normandy, France

mother:

*wife of Ansfred II of Goz

born Abt 0968 Of, Normandy, France

married Abt 0988

(end of information)

siblings:

unknown

spouse:

*Judith De Montalier

born Abt 0994 Of, Normandy, France

married Abt 1014

(end of information)

children:

*Richard d'Avranches Vicount d'Avranches born 1025 Avranches, Normandy, France died 1066

*Robert Bigod born Abt 1015 Avranches, Normandy, France died 1071

Humphrey De Tillieul (or Bigod) born Abt 1017 Of, Euphemia, Normandy, France

biographical and/or anecdotal:

notes or source:

LDS

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Vicomte d'Avranches

Seigneur d'Hiesmes

Chambellan de Robert II de Normandie, il est exilé en 1042 pour s'être rebellé.

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Thurstan le Goz, vicomte d' Avranches, was the great favourite of Robert Duke of Normandy, the father of the Conqueror, and accompanied him to the Holy Land, and was entrusted to bring back the relics the Duke had obtained from the Patriarch of Jerusalem to present to the Abbey of Cerisi, in 1035.

He was a witness where Richard le Goz, vicomte d' Avranches managed to avoid being implicated in the rebellion of his father, but obtained his pardon and restoration, in 1041.

Thurstan le Goz, vicomte d' Avranches was living in 1041. He was exiled, following a failed revolt against Duke William, and his lands confiscated and given by the Duke to his mother, Herleve, wife of Herluin de Conteville, in 1041.

Thurstan was our ancestor through two distinct descent lines--one through his son Robert Bigod and the other through his son Richard le Goz, each of whom was independently our ancestor.

See "My Lines"

( http://homepages.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~cousin/html/p55.htm#i6647 )

from Compiler: R. B. Stewart, Evans, GA

( http://homepages.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~cousin/html/index.htm )
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Thurstan (Todeni) Goz, Viscount d'Avranches, Lord Heismes married Judith Monterolier. Thurstan (Todeni) Goz, Viscount d'Avranches, Lord Heismes was born circa 1000 at of Normandy, France. He died after 1041.

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"Plantagenet Ancestry", Turton.
"Wallop Family".
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"Ancestral roots of certain American colonists who came to America before1700", Weis, 1992, seventh edition.

"Royalty for Commoners", Roderick W. Stuart, 1992, 2nd edition.
"Plantagenet Ancestry", Turton.
"Wallop Family".
"Some Early English Pedigrees", Vernon M. Norr.
"Ancestral roots of certain American colonists who came to Americabefore 1700", Weis, 1992, seventh edition. "Royalty for Commoners",Roderick W. Stuart, 1992, 2nd edition.
"Plantagenet Ancestry", Turton.
"Wallop Family".
"Some Early English Pedigrees", Vernon M. Norr.
"Ancestral roots of certain American colonists who came to Americabefore 1700", Weis, 1992, seventh edition.

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