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• Hij is geboren rond 1140 in Yealand, Cumberland, England (United Kingdom).
• Hij is overleden in het jaar 1184 in Palestine.
• Een kind van Adam d'Avranches

Gezin van Norman /de Redmayne Redman (de Yealand) Knight Hospitaller.Crusader. Minister of the Holy Hospital of Jerusalem

Hij had een relatie met nn de Stuteville.

Kind(eren):

1. Henry Redman (Redmayne)  ± 1165-± 1225 

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'Greenwood, W: “The Redmans of Levens and Harewood: A contribution to the history of the family of Redman and Redmayne in many of its branches” Titus Wilson, Kendal, 1905. Available online at Google Books.'

Chapter II is titled "Norman de Redman and the Knights Hospitallers"

Summary notes
Norman b.c. 1140 called "Normannus Dapifer" or "Dapifer of Guarinus, MInister of the Holy Hospital of Jerusalem," may have been a Crusader (though no evidence).

Greenwood suspects that "Guarinus" refers to Warinus of Lancaster (a crusader), brother of William of Lancaster, First Baron Kendal; William of Lancaster gave lands in Yealand and Silverdale to Adam d'Avranches (probably Norman's father), perhaps because of a marriage between Adam and a Lancaster woman.

Dapifer responsibilities transferred for Norman from Guarinus to William Lancaster II

witnessed a grant as Norman de Redeman; also a confirmation to the Church of St. Mary of Kildeholm in 1201 as Normann de Redeman.

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CHAPTER II.

Norman de Redman and the Knights Hospitallers.

NORMAN, the first of his line to bear the name of Redman was probably born circa 1140, at a troublous time, when Stephen found the Empress Maud and the most powerful of his Barons arrayed against him, and for a time England was in the clutch of anarchy, bloodshed and famine. The Battle of the Standard was but a two- year-old memory, and people were still talking in awed whispers of the massacres and rapine King David and his Scots had left behind them on their raid into the Northern Counties.

In his early manhood it is not improbable that Norman, who is described as " Dapifer of Guarinus, Minister of the Holy Hospital of Jerusalem, may have fought in the Holy Land as a Crusader, although of this there seems to be no direct evidence. In this connection, however, it is interesting to record that there may be seen at the church of Thornton-in-Lonsdale " two fine linen cloths with the Temple of Jerusalem woven thereon," which were be- queathed to the church bj' Ralph Redmayne, in 1703. These cloths, to which evidentl}- great value was attached, may or may not be memorials of some early Redman crusader.

Guarinus, whose "dapifer" Norman was, also presents difticulties. I had thought that he was pi'obably William de Warren, the third Earl of Surrey, who accompanied Louis, King of France, on his expedition against the Saracens, an adventure from which, by the way, he never returned ; but a more plausible suggestion perhaps is that he was Warinus, of Lancaster, brother of William, first Lancaster Baron of Kendal, who was a Crusader and who, without any great stretch of probability, might have chosen as his dapifer the son of his neighbour Adam d'Avranches, of Yealand.

In these very early years, where records yield such scanty evidence, one must of necessity fall back to a certain extent on reasoned conjecture ; and before we emerge from this nebulous stage into the clear atmosphere of established facts it may not be unprofitable to indulge in a little speculation as to the connection between the families of de Lancaster and Redman. That the con- nection of these two neighbouring houses was exception- ally close, admits of no question. The Redmans gained their first territorial footing in the north through William de Lancaster, the first, who, as we have seen, gave lands in Yealand and Silverdale to Adam d'Avranches. Later, as we shall see, the Redmans were further enriched at de Lancaster hands by the manors of Levens and Selside and other goodly lands.

One cannot think that in these olden days, any more than now, men were in the habit of giving away land by thousands of acres merely out of friendly impulse. Such an act argues either a close family tie or some commen- surate return. Feudal services from one family would scarcely call for the sacrifice of no inconsiderable sections of two counties ; one might think such rewards would ensure the loyalty of a small arm}' of knights, while the rents reserved were little more than the proverbial pepper- corn.

The inference which is irresistibly suggested is that these broad acres came to the Redmans through a marriage alliance or alliances with the family of de Lancaster ; and it seems to me possible that it was the bright eyes and rich dower of a de Lancaster heiress that lured Adam of Avranches into the north of England and led to his settle- ment there. However this may be, on no other than a supposition of this kind can one understand the very intimate relations between the two families ; but, the probability conceded, many circumstances otherwise diffi- cult to understand, become intelligible.

But enough of conjecture, which is often misleading in proportion as it is alluring. Norman seems to have transferred his duties as dapifer from Guarinus to William de Lancaster IL, for when he witnesses a Confirmation of lands by William de Lancaster to William, son of Roger de Kirkby-Irleth, he is described as Normannus Dapifer (Farrer's Lancashire Pipe Rolls, &c., p. 443) ; and again as " Norman, the dapifer," he witnesses a grant by William to Hugh, the hermit, " pro salute animae meae et Helewisiae sponsae meae" (Ex Registro de Cockersand, f. 112 ; Monasticon vi., 909). As Norman de Redeman (Red^man, by the way, appears to be quite a favourite early spelling of the family name, of which we find some- thing like a dozen variants) he witnesses the grant by Thomas, son of Cospatrick, of five acres of arable land in Hailinethait, one toft, pasture for ten cows, and an acre of meadow (Cartae Miscell., vol. ii., fo. 2).

Norman, who, as we have seen, had already inherited and acquired large estates adds to them the Manor of Tranton (variously called also Tranetherne, Trenterne, &c.) granted to him by Stiffinus, son of Dolphin de Trimble inear Lowther, in Westmorland). In the grant it is described as

Totam terram de Tranton videlizet, quae propinquior est apud villam de Trinbe &c. cum omnibus pertinenciis suis in aquis at in agris et in pratis et in pasturis et cum communa pastura de Thrinbe . . . reddendo annuatim octo Sollida (sic) pro omnibus serviciis &c.

The witnesses to this grant are Robertus de Morisbe, Garnaciusde Huencurte, Adam Morisbe, Huctredus, Alius Osulfe, Willelmus de Lovvdar, Willelmus et Thomas . . . filius Adam de Morland, Adam Sillcet (Selside) &c.

We make further acquaintance with these Trantherne lands in a Confirmation (1201) to the Church of St. Mary, of Kildeholm, " ex dono Normann de Redeman t'ra de Tranethern cu omibz ptiii suis."

" Now what," is the interesting question asked by Colonel Parker, of Browsholme Hall, who, I may be allowed to say, is beyond comparison the chief living authority on Redman history, " could possibly interest Norman de Redman in a remote nunnery in a distant part of Yorkshire to such an extent that he should help to endow it ? He had no Yorkshire lands. Now Nicholas, the name of one of Norman's sons, is a Stuteville name and the name of the grandson and heir of the founder of the nunnery, Robert de Stuteville (temp. Henry I.) Is it not a reasonable presumption that Norman married a daughter of Robert de Stuteville or of William, his son ? The connection of the Stutevilles with Carleton and Drigg is interesting in this connection. I find that Hugh de Morville, Lord of Kirk Diomed (temp. Henry H.), married Hawisia daughter of Nicholas de Stuteville; so, at any rate, we have a Redman neighbour closely allied to the family."

That Norman's interest in the Knights Hospitallers was a practical one is proved by the fact that he gave of his lands to the support of the Holy Hospital of Jerusalem. Some years after his death, we find a confirmation by Gernat (e), Minister of the Hospital of Jerusalem, " with the common and unanimous consent of the brothers of the order," of four acres of land in Levens, to Henry, son of Norman, " which we had of the alms of (Norman) the Dapifer, his father, ' tenendas de nobis in feodo et hereditate, libere et quiete, ab omni seculari servicio quod ad (elemosinam) pertinet, reddendo annuatim Domui nostrae Xn"* in assumptione beatae (M) Virginis.'"

At what time and for what reason Norman discarded the name of Yealand in favour of that of Redman I have been unable to discover. It is clear that he reached man- hood a Yealand and that he lived for some time and died "de Redman." The change appears to have come towards the end of his life, and was probably inspired by the laud- able wish to found a family of his own, distinct from that of his brother, Roger of Yealand ; and for this purpose he identified himself with his Cumberland property and elected to be known as " de Redman." How these Redman lands came to him is another problem awaiting solution.

Norman probably died circa 1184, while Henry H. was still on the throne, and left behind him two sons, both under age, (i) Henry, his heir and successor, and (2) Nicholas, whose only legacy to posterity is his name.

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Mike Hutchinson's Readman Family History http://www.bedfordpark.net/genealogy/readman/history.htm

Greenwood 1905[ii] builds a family history from the Norman Vicomte Adam d’Avranches who was granted lands at Yealand and Silverdale in Cumberland by William of Lancaster in 1170. The Avranches had given William the Conqueror a hand in the 1066 invasion, and so were, presumably, entitled to some spoils of victory.

This family also acquired lands at Redman in Cumberland – a place not readily located on contemporary maps, although the village of Yealand Redmayne is shown about one mile NE of Yealand Manor. A Norman de Yealand - born c1140 and possibly a crusader to the Hly lands – later adopted the names “de Redman or de Redeman. A branch of this family, through Sir Richard Redman (born c 1360 and later Speaker of the House of Commons) later moved to Harewood Castle in Yorkshire. Sir Richard Redman married Elizabeth de Aldeburgh some time after 1393 – she was heiress to Harewood.

Greenwood reports that Cuthbert Redman (probably Sir Richards great grandson) of this branch participated in the Northern Rebellion in 1569, and was indicted of conspiracy but having escaped the usual penalty (presumably as a minor player) he “…settled in the neighbourhood of Whitby where he owned lands.” Greenwood goes on to report on Cuthbert and his wife Elizabeth in 1577 and 1589. Greenwood identifies a “Wilstrop Redmayne” and his wife Jane in 1596, suggesting that Wilstrop in a son or grandson of Cuthbert. Wilstrop and Jane suffered “a fine of the manor of Borrowby in Lythe” in 1596 “…and again in 1599 of lands at Newmger, Acreynges and Newton Moor, Parish of Lythe.” [Note this Wilstrop could well be the “Westrop Readman” that Aveling identifies above as a recusant at Lythe in 1590]

We also have O’Connor’s[iii] citation at page 153 of a recusant roll mention in September 1592 of “…Wilstrop Redman lately of Borrowby, gent, as a crown debtor to the account of £120…” – again probably the same person.

Sources:

Greenwood, W: “The Redmans of Levens and Harewood: A contribution to the history of the family of Redman and Redmayne in many of its branches” Titus Wilson, Kendal, 1905

O’Connor, J L:” Hearts of Oak: Ain introduction to the Recusant history of the North Yorkshire Moors” (unpublished) Middlesbo

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